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Old 08-08-2008, 06:42 PM   #121
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Default Re: Grizzlies sign Josh Smith to 5yr/$58M offer sheet

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because 11mil a season is way more than he is worth already. these stupid contracts are starting to piss me off.

11.6 million is actually less than what I thought he would get.

12-13.5 million was what I thought he would eventually get, which is reasonable considering his age, skill and talent level, and what similar guys have gotten.

I hope the Hawks match, but if they don't, then there are a few options.
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Old 08-08-2008, 06:51 PM   #122
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11.6 million is actually less than what I thought he would get.

12-13.5 million was what I thought he would eventually get, which is reasonable considering his age, skill and talent level, and what similar guys have gotten.

I hope the Hawks match, but if they don't, then there are a few options.


So a streaky shooting, less than avg court intelligence, no heart, inconsistent player should get 11 mil a season because he is young? Like Darius Miles or Al Harrington or Kwame's first contract?

He will be paid more than let's see Boozer, Ginobili, Parker, Big Z, Tayshaun, Billups, Rip.....
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:37 PM   #123
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This line of thinking is what makes bad GMs. Good GMs know that sometimes you have to let a valuable player go if he demands money that he's not worth, and thats why I respect Dumars so much for not caving in to Ben Wallace. Other GMs need to follow suit. Just because other teams overpay players (like the Bulls are for Deng, and did a few years back for Wallace), doesn't mean you should go out and overpay Smith just to keep up.

The difference with Ben Wallace and Josh Smith is night and day in terms of where they are at in their careers when they signed their deals. Atl is just showing once again how poorly run they are. Say they let him go because he's 'not worth the money'. Then they win 25 games...but YEAH they saved an extra $2 mill per year in the NBA where the cap number goes up every season. When you are the Atlanta Hawks and always suck, you need to step up and keep players.

A guy like Smith, for all the people who slam him, is still a young player, you has gotten better every single year. If that isn't something you can work with then I don't know what is.

Also, you're paying not just for next year, but for what Smith will be in 3 years, 4 years. If he continues to get better, and matures when he gets older, he'll be a franchise type guy. Or, you can low ball him and have him walk when his 5 years are up. It's not a smart basketball move. Bynum will probably get a max deal and Smith has produced way more then him and hasn't had a major injury.

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Old 08-08-2008, 08:02 PM   #124
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So a streaky shooting, less than avg court intelligence, no heart, inconsistent player should get 11 mil a season because he is young? Like Darius Miles or Al Harrington or Kwame's first contract?

He will be paid more than let's see Boozer, Ginobili, Parker, Big Z, Tayshaun, Billups, Rip.....
the difference between those fools and this fool is he produces. he didnt put up those stats because hes young.
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the difference between those fools and this fool is he produces. he didnt put up those stats because hes young.


those other fools produced decent numbers early on as well.
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those other fools produced decent numbers early on as well.

Comparing Smith's numbers and progression over his first seasons to those guys is a major reach.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:18 PM   #127
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Bogut and Okafor got 6 years, $72 million, and Smith is comparable, so that is what I thought he would get.

He hurt himself big time with his push to get Woodson fired.

Other teams don't want to pick up guys who try to get their coach fired, since it creates locker room problems.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:18 PM   #128
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man, the grizz already my second fav team....if they add josh smith


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