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Old 08-12-2008, 02:56 AM   #16
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Why do we have to limit ourselves to that? For instance, one of those businessmen who dropped out must have known something about the business environment which they thought they could profit from.

Thats also where you're partially wrong. They didn't drop because they were "too cool for school". They most likely believed they could be making enough money through some business idea or innovation they wanted to exploit/innovate. Initially, the "what" that they knew was definitely more important than the "who".
Exactly what I was saying, by "too cool for school" It's like **** all this extra bull****. No need to waste my time ****ing around with crunching numbers and the periodic table when they know what they need to be rolling in the cash...

So yeah, What is clearly a HUGE part of it, I was assuming that What you Know=education...
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:57 AM   #17
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What? You have experience. You're not an expert. You only got an internship in one field, and only one internship. (so far) All you have is first-hand anecdotes, not expertise.

Expertise doesnt exactly mean "expert." It just means first hand experience and being able to back up what you're saying (which I have).

A first-hand anecdote is pretty much all you can use for this thread.
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:57 AM   #18
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It's quite simple actually.

Who you know gets you started. What you know gets you further.
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:58 AM   #19
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Expertise doesnt exactly mean "expert."

That's exactly what it means.

Anyway, like Gifted Mind just aid, who you know is what gets you in the door. Not to say that you can be some idiot off the street with no knowledge of whatever field it is and get an opportunity (though I'm sure it's happened) because your dad's golf partner is a CEO, but while at school you meet people. Be it through fraternities or your major. These contacts give you your opening, and sometimes give you everything. But it's what you know that gets you the job, or at least a promotion.

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Old 08-12-2008, 02:58 AM   #20
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That doesnt mean anything to be honest.

You can still become very rich and be non college educated with a simple idea. You dont need a college degree to become a business man.
That's what I'm saying. It's who you know. You can't make money without money... You need investors, and loans and well I hope you understand basic business by now... How do you get that stuff? By knowing people.
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That's exactly what it means.

I just meant knowledge or experience with the subject.
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:00 AM   #22
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Expertise doesnt exactly mean "expert." It just means first hand experience and being able to back up what you're saying (which I have).

A first-hand anecdote is pretty much all you can use for this thread.
Expertise = EXPERT, not First hand noob

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Old 08-12-2008, 03:02 AM   #23
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I just meant knowledge or experience with the subject.
and clearly I have some.

Why do you have to be such a snob? I thought college would help with your bubble, but clearly it's made it worse.
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:02 AM   #24
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Well who you know is what is going to get your foot in he door. But that doesnt mean its all about who you know. If you are going to be successful, what you know is going to be very important. And I believe what you know will get you where you want in life, it will just take more time if you have no connections.

So I think in the short run, who you know is more important. But its what you know that will get you far in whatever you want to do in life. You just are going to have to be more patient
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and clearly I have some.

Why do you have to be such a snob? I thought college would help with your bubble, but clearly it's made it worse.

I aint being no snob. Look bro, you have never really actively searched for a real job/internship so you cant give a REAL opinion on the thread subject. I'm just stating facts.
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Of course, there's also multiple fields that don't require you to know a single person and only have a talent in it. All subjective.
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:06 AM   #27
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That's what I'm saying. It's who you know. You can't make money without money... You need investors, and loans and well I hope you understand basic business by now... How do you get that stuff? By knowing people.

There's a difference between knowing a banker to take out a loan for you and actually knowing people to get you up the ladder.

You've just been stating generalities and no specifics which proves you don't know much about the subject. Once again sorry, I know you're young and it isn't your fault but give it a couple years when you start searching for an internship and comment on the subject on how you got the job and what you did in it.
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:12 AM   #28
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the wise and all knowing has spoken
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:14 AM   #29
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There's a difference between knowing a banker to take out a loan for you and actually knowing people to get you up the ladder.

You've just been stating generalities and no specifics which proves you don't know much about the subject. Once again sorry, I know you're young and it isn't your fault but give it a couple years when you start searching for an internship and comment on the subject on how you got the job and what you did in it.
Climbing ladders and internships GTFO man

You do that, you do that.

I'll go golfing with your CEO and get him to sign off on a couple multi-millionaire dollar deals while you slave away in your corner office!

Hey don't worry! In 10 years you can move up to the office with the view!
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:17 AM   #30
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Climbing ladders and internships GTFO man

You do that, you do that.

I'll go golfing with your CEO and get him to sign off on a couple multi-millionaire dollar deals while you slave away in your corner office!

Hey don't worry! In 10 years you can move up to the office with the view!

Too bad I wont ever be in an office.

Good luck trying to do something that is highly unlikely to do that billions of other business majors out there do.

You know that business majors dont get paid for internships? How lame is that. Really shows how much companies really care about hiring a business major. Business majors should be paid at least min. wage.
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