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Including Kyrie in 2015 is pretty grimy.

So…10% is your max?

Advanced stats absolutely do and can highlight defensive impact. There are tons of advanced stats out there centered around +/- and its regressions that measure impact a player has when on the floor in terms of the scoreboard which allows us to separate the Dwayne wades from the Zach lavines even if their stat line was similar. And fact is...

LOL @ LeBron with six.... that number is going to haunt him until he dies.

Sinner has canceled his practice session today and his odds have jumped to 3.75, almost 4 to 1 now!

It isn't Nascar, but I would guess the UFC crowd is like 90% males in between age 20-40. Not many females that are big into MMA. I would also say it has probably gained more respect as a sport over the years. It's PPV sales have fallen off a cliff though. Not sure who is to blame there, PPV in general seems dead to me. Anyone here dishing out...

Yes a better plus minus. And way more washed athletically yet still better.

Reverting a LeBron topic into NFL. Doncic averaged 4 more points than Bron and had as many assists and rebounds and a far better plus minus. Even Davis was averaging more points, higher percentage, more blocks and rebounds than LeBron. Far better defense. And this guy is carrying his team? Not to mention he is a horrible teammate.

You see the purpose of the revisionist history in the thread title.....I cant beleive anyone who grew up watching 80s-90s ball could ever come to such a conclusion. Its that terrible.

Advanced stats dont ever factor defense perfectly. Klay made an all defensive team, Jeff did not. Klay received all defensive team votes in 6 seasons to Jeff's 1. Klay made 2 all nba teams to none for Jeff. Klay has received mvp votes in a season, Jeff? Nope. Jeff won't ever see the hall of fame while Klay is likely to hes on the short list of...

I have to say, this whole thing has given me respect for Candace Owens. https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1932808686545567977 I agree with her rarely, and I think she says dumb shit all the time, but at least she has the balls the go straight for the Elephant in the room. America needs to know. If Trump is pedo she is prepared to man-up and...

*yawn* Hakeem's career best TS was 57.7%. Barkley's career average was 61.2% in spite of bricking 3s.

Baller and Chewing, what would each of you say the ODDS are that Trump is on the list? 10%, 50%, 90% ? 0% ? He was best friends with Epstein, he already taken the step of f@#king prostitutes, and Elon Musk SAID he is on the list.

Why do people rely only on those 2 years, as if Hakeem was not a statistical juggernaut before then? Here's Hakeem's stat-line prior to 1994: Hakeem PS '85-'93: 26/13/3/2/4 on 54% I'm genuinely curious, how many players from that era were doing this not named Michael Jordan?

The Stockton slurping has really gotten insane, and I hate to say it because I loved Stockton as a player.

We can't track data prior to 1997, but the last good years for him were 1997-99. From 10-16ft and 16-29ft, Hakeem shot 44% and 46%. Lookup Ewing and Robinson's numbers those same years and he shot better. Robinson: 36%/43% Ewing: 41%/43% So what's Hakeem doing in his peak years? In the years mentioned, his FG% was 50.5%. From '93-'96 (peak...

bet your last $ chucky schumer is on that list. that guy just reeks pedoph!le.

Crazy stuff. Dimitrov peaked but he played out of skin and paid the price for it. He consistently hit 140 MPH serves which he never does, until his pec gave out on a serve. He wrote checks his body couldnt pay, and his body is already quite fragile. 5 straight retirements in slams now. Of course Sinner hurt his elbow also in the...

Jon Jones is retired. And lol at white people trying to claim Canelo. Look at his brothers, darker skinned with black hair.

I subscribe to the theory that the information is too valuable to give up.

He's also wrong about the fanbase of UFC being "white trash hillbillies". Guy lives in his made up bubble. Go to any bar or any casino on a fight night and you'll see dudes from all walks of life who are heavy into UFC. It isn't Nascar. Look at all the big time celebs that show up to all the PPV's. That would be like saying the core fanbase of...

In USA you have to tip. They could pay the waiters and waitresses 25/hr but then you'd pay double for your burger. The money has to be made up either way. Don't be a cheapskate.

This is hilarious coming from you. Considering you can't make it through one thread without someone calling you a druggie. :lol

If we're talking prime for prime, I'd probably disagree, but you could make a valid argument for Hornacek. But if we're talking the Utah version, absolutely indefensibly stupid to claim that version of Hornacek is better than peak Klay.

Can you not do this here?

Timing is also a huge factor, 80's had a ton of PG's but not too many legendary PF's. Malone set a new standard for the position and he was chasing Kareem. 00-10 we got more clarity in how you could have a bunch of Malone's but Stocktons were the rare ones.

No its not just scoring. Jeff was better in almost every advanced stat. Way better playmaker and dynamic offensive player while also shooting more efficiently than Klay. Klay is a better defender which lessens the gap but perhaps not by enough to overtake him. Hornacek was an above average defender as well and Klays defense is vastly overrated. He...