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MVP voting has never been a player ranking - it's based on surprise factor, so tons of bums got 3rd like Blake Griffin or PG3... The Bulls were never a big story in 94' because everyone knew the Bulls were enjoying a honeymoon period and a bubble that would burst At no point in the 90's did anyone think he was anywhere near real franchise...

Thanks to quotes from Mike over the years, new fans like yourself can learn what 90's kids already know - that Jordan retired suddenly on a whim, and didn't NEED to retire - no one thought he was injured and couldn't play - everyone knew that he could obviously keep playing and went to play baseball for other reasons (like 3-peating, aka already...

You need to come to terms with reality :)

LeBron will still have fans no matter what, but you're right in there being a recent tidal wave of criticism. And it only is going to get worse. I don't think history will be too kind on LeBron quite frankly. They certainly wont be in his pocket like Nick Wright :lol

Jordan has more of a case for being on the 00s team then Lebron does for being on the 20s team. Terrible as Wizards Jordan was, he wasn't nearly as much of a net negative as Lebron's been this decade.

The really amazing thing was the 22 Lakers. He convened a war room to create a super team, snagged a third star, and then led his team to the lottery.

The 2nd 3peat bulls were definitely stacked, they had a former 20ppg guy as a defensive role player lol.

Thread title was "Worst poster in the history of basketball." Thought it was going to be a thread about Axe. :lol

OP went full Lebron23 with this one.

AND they added an All-NBA player in Rodman too, in addition to Pippen, the 6MOY and the GOAT coach. Those are Durant level rings.

Falling off into being considered tbe goat, what a fall from grace.:oldlol:

Like I said until he effed around and finished 3rd place in the mvp vote over most of those guys.....thats when he started being recognized as one of the best in the world and Mj came back to play with an mvp candidate.....imagine that.

Yeah because once upon a time, Kareem's record was deemed untouchable. Especially to a guy who'd already considered retiring before his 1st chip. It was decidedly out of reach, so why even try?

Mjs accomplishments are of lower caliber than Bill Russell, rather than 8peat he could never make it past 3 without needing a break. He couldn't coach a team to 2 titles while playing either. When it comes to Lebron Mj got beat like a drum anytime he faced a team he wasn't supposed to beat, Lebron on the other hand broke through that barrier...

Said it years ago that the longer LeBron will be removed from the league, the worse his legacy will be. He's not going to be forgotten, he's just going to be remembered as the guy who lost a ton of finals despite all the help and shortcuts he's taken. I didn't expect the downfall of his legacy to happen THIS fast lol.

3ball?

Numbers just above what Pippen specifically averaged in each category :lol

Oh really? Post the exchange from yesterday you're referring to. Because I kicked the living shit out of you here... http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?522031-2800-roster-and-sidekick-lt-Hornacek-so-73-wins-means-CURRY-is-goat-like-not-lebron/page5

Maybe if he suddenly discovers a huge cartel gathering a face-tatted killers here in the US somewhere near a white neighborhood. Then it will be "Oh thank Jesus he saved us! Thank you Trump! Go bang a child now we don't care!"

When I was coming up, we used to play a game called "chicken", where one guy gets an open lane to run up and try to posterize a waiting defender. Today's game is like "chicken"... Wide open lane ,so any Tom, Dick, and Harry can waltz down the lane and punish a helpless defender.... No moves, feints, or pure scoring ability needed to get to the...

Did he though? Are his teammates hofers because they were all time greats or because they played with russell? Is he not that great because of the talent around him? Probably somewhere in between

If someone paid him a billion dollars, he could not effectively refute what I'm saying. All he can do is whine like a baby that I beat him up yesterday - TOO BAD - stupidity doesn't get a rest from being set straight... Stupidity doesn't just go away with the snap of the fingers... Enlightenment and high level understanding of situations takes...

Carter over Weiss remains the nastiest dunk on of all time. It ended a career. Understand that Frederick Weiss has been drafted by the knicks that summer. After Carter dunked on him like that he decided he didn't want to be in the NBA, ever. He might have made himself a healthy 20, 30 mil over 10 to 15 years. Nope, not worth it. The dunk in...

No one was surprised when Pippen choked in the playoffs and was outplayed by Ewing, or saw teammates lead the BPM and win share in the playoffs... It was extremely common for people to comment on Pippen and say he's big trash - it was standard for people to talk this way about Pippen - no one thought he was anywhere near Ewing, Drexler, Malone,...

Phoenix brutally annihilating 3babble :biggums: Cmon Phoenix, bullying disabled kids isnt cool :lol

You can always tell when 3nutball is out on day release.

Lebron's accomplishments are lower caliber than Jordan, aka repeating instead of three-peating, or needing equal-scoring partners and closers instead of carrying the load (41 ppg to 3-peat). The Eastern conference also destroyed Lebron in 2008, 2009 and 2010 - he couldn't handle it, so he put the top 3 players in the conference on 1 team to win...

His approval ratings on immigration have taken a huge hit too, it's underwater, by a lot, Americans aren't down with ICE using Gestapo tactics apparently.