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  • msbutthurt's Avatar
    Today, 05:26 PM
    Sarcasm? If you're legit asking... Anderson Cooper: 'I'm gay, always have been, always will be' https://www.today.com/news/anderson-cooper-im-gay-always-have-been-always-will-be-858165
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  • Roundball_Rock's Avatar
    Today, 05:25 PM
    We also saw Shaq against prime Ben Wallace in the playoffs twice (Wallace the DPOY both years). Shaq was older but did fine: 2005 ECF: Shaq 21/8/2 59% (23/10/3 on 60% in the RS) 2006 ECF: Shaq 22/11/0 66% (20/9/2 on 60% in the RS) He had series like that in the 90's too. You could find that with any legend. For example: Shaq vs....
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  • Horatio33's Avatar
    Today, 05:24 PM
    And on the next possession its Sixers ball and the Sixers throw it to Hal Greer because they didn't trust Wilt shooting the free throws because the Celtics would have fouled him, and because of Wilt's failures at the line the pass to Greer gets picked off by Havlicek and the Celtics win. Thought you'd made a killer point there, didn't you?
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  • HoopsNY's Avatar
    Today, 05:23 PM
    Look back on this forum and just in general across the sports world how Shaq is viewed. He's remembered for those years, almost exclusively. You would think prior to the 1999-00 season, that Shaq was almost a nobody in the rankings. People are in love with his peak years. But I remember those peak years. I remember watching how he played and...
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  • Vino24's Avatar
    Today, 05:20 PM
    Right?! In his culture women and house cats are on the same level
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  • Psileas's Avatar
    Today, 05:19 PM
    Pure BS. Wilt brought the Warriors/Sixers back in the last possessions both in Game 7 of 1962 and in 1965 with consecutive points, so the "Russell let Wilt do his game till the last minutes" narrative holds little water. As for screw-ups, I know of a big one in the end of the second game I mentioned, and it belonged to Russell.
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  • tpols's Avatar
    Today, 05:17 PM
    I dont hate shaq. that's just how it was.
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  • Phoenix's Avatar
    Today, 05:17 PM
    I dont think we're quite understanding each other all along, but it's fine. I understand what you are trying to say in reference to comparing Shaqs dominance vs Lebrons and contextualizing their respective competitions. It just ended up taking the discussion to where we are now debating prime Shaq and prime Hakeem etc etc etc.
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  • ~primetime~'s Avatar
    Today, 05:17 PM
    look at the NY graph I just posted, clearly it's deadly...fck just look at the death count currently, in the few months it's been here, it has higher death rate than ANY OTHER CAUSE OF DEATH anyone who is saying this shit is nothing out of the ordinary is 100% agenda driven
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  • HoopsNY's Avatar
    Today, 05:16 PM
    Which is half of my argument. People can't laud Shaq's peak years and use it as a main argument for where they rank him or against another player's dominance/peak or ranking. When you factor in the officiating and the lack of competition, his peak isn't as impressive as some make it out to be. And if he doesn't have his dominance and peak years to...
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  • RRR3's Avatar
    Today, 05:15 PM
    We all know why you hate Shaq :lol
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  • HoopsNY's Avatar
    Today, 05:13 PM
    I agree that Shaq wins those matchups, but I don't think you're quite understanding my point here. I apologize for not being clear enough.
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  • Phoenix's Avatar
    Today, 05:12 PM
    The conversation has expanded beyond comparing Shaq and Lebron at this point. You brought up that his dominance isnt quite in the 90s as it was in 2000 because of better competition. So it's not even about Shaq and Lebron now. We're talking Shaq vs Hakeem and Robinson. You took the conversation there.
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  • ArbitraryWater's Avatar
    Today, 05:12 PM
    Yikes dude. Damn. Anyway Anderson Cooper is gay?!
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  • tpols's Avatar
    Today, 05:09 PM
    There's no way defenders hit Shaq more than he hit them. I've seen all of these games live, and rewatched them at an older age. The guy was 12-6 elbowing dudes and generally knocking them out of perfectly legal position without consequence. Go watch tape of wilt chamberlain... he didn't need to do that to be a GOAT scorer. And dont mistake it, if...
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  • Phoenix's Avatar
    Today, 05:09 PM
    I'm just asking you who wins these matchups. I'm asking again. I'm not sure youre avoiding the question. Because you're the one saying Shaqs dominance is diminished if his peak coincided with the peaks of the elite 90s guys. The natural question then becomes who wins these matchups. Still hoping for any answer to that.
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  • RRR3's Avatar
    Today, 05:08 PM
    Obama and Trump wish they were half the kind of leader Castro and Chavez were.
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  • HoopsNY's Avatar
    Today, 05:07 PM
    I wasn't arguing for the sake of arguing that Robinson would necessarily score 30 ppg in a 7 game series. My point was that a player with Robinson's skillset requires MUCH more work on the defensive end than a guy like Sabonis, Mutombo, or Macculloch. That's just a fact. It's not about winning the matchups. Look, people can't compare LeBron...
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  • Cleverness's Avatar
    Today, 05:05 PM
    Yep. CDC's best guess was 0.4% IFR. If we include asymptomatic cases then actual IFR is 0.08%. (weighted heavily in those already dying / 80-100+ year olds) There is a reason why the only people dying with COVID were already dying of other illnesses; COVID is simply not very deadly. COVID deaths = # of people who died with cold symptoms ...
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  • HoopsNY's Avatar
    Today, 05:04 PM
    Those finals numbers got the Lakers a 3 peat. Indiana was lucky to win 2 games, while the Sixers and Nets barely competed. When people think of Shaq's peak years, they remember these years and what he did in the playoffs, particularly the NBA finals. If the opponent has a viable big man, in his prime, and Shaq does his usual 25-26 pts on 11-12...
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  • Phoenix's Avatar
    Today, 05:02 PM
    You were making an argument for his offensive production earlier when you made a comment about ' they offer offensive production as well'. Were you not including Robinson in that context? I'm asking you a simple question. 2001 Shaq or 95 Robinson: who wins the matchup? We're going in circles here. And outside of him and 94 and 95 Dream, who...
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  • Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
    Today, 05:02 PM
    So again: how many other presidents can you think of that had multiple ex members of their cabinet call them an idiot? How many of Clinton's "best people" would say that about them? Reagan? Bush? Junior? Obama?
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  • tpols's Avatar
    Today, 05:01 PM
    Ay! You're talking to my guy all wrong. It's the wrong tone... do it again? ...i'll stab you in the face with a saudering iron. Capeesh?
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  • Phoenix's Avatar
    Today, 04:56 PM
    The argument isnt that he drops 38 and 16 on 95 Hakeems head, or 94 Robinson. The argument is whether he wins those matchups. David Robinson for example was dropping subpar numbers against much worse centers than Shaq in the mid 90s. But I'm to believe he looks peak Shaq dead in the eye? This is not computing. Its reasonable to assume peak Shaq...
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  • HoopsNY's Avatar
    Today, 04:55 PM
    But I'm not arguing for David Robinson's offensive production here. There's a difference. What I'm saying is that a prime or peak Robinson offers A LOT more work for Shaq. Prime Robinson in a 7 game series matched up against Shaq is simply not the same as a 34 year old Rik Smits, 35 year old Arvydas Sabonis, or freaking Todd Maccolluch. When...
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  • ~primetime~'s Avatar
    Today, 04:55 PM
    even at 80% it obliterates the flu in death count that is a 104 person study though...other studies show it around 30%.
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  • Long Duck Dong's Avatar
    Today, 04:51 PM
    Another covid death. Let's get that vaccine ASAP
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  • Patrick Chewing's Avatar
    Today, 04:51 PM
    And this means what to the rest of us? Donald Trump doesn’t become Donald Trump if he was actually stupid. All my former bosses are stupid for firing me or letting me walk. Obama was stupid for shaking hands with leaders like Chavez and Castro and for giving Iran their ransom money. Is he really a stupid guy? No.
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  • Long Duck Dong's Avatar
    Today, 04:49 PM
    It's called patronization or condescension. And yes, I think it's insulting but on the surface it's ass kissing so a lot of people are cool with that.
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