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Today, 10:04 AM
RMWG now putting Holiday on the same tier as Nick Van Exel & Lou Williams.
Disgraceful. :oldlol:
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Today, 10:03 AM
Nope!
LONGEVITY is the elephant in the room.
It has been coined deliberately in last 15 yrs starting with Kobe aka BrickBe aka DeadBe to undermine and downgrade previous GOATs. it has to be called out as it is.
Now LBJ is really benefitting with LONGEVITY discussion thanks to Klutch Media and its implanted minions in ESPN and social...
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Today, 10:02 AM
Yea, no shit. Did you not read my post when I specifically mentioned they were not "top heavy", but depth was off the charts.
Isiah & Aguirre could have easily averaged 20 if they played on a bad team. Mark Aguirre was literally averaging 22 PPG on the Mavs in 1989 before he got traded to Detroit mid-season.
I'm a historian to this game,...
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Today, 10:01 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jerry-west-lakers-legend-as-a-player-and-executive-dies-at-86/
RIP
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Today, 10:01 AM
And that's where perception deviates from reality. Jrue has a way higher impact on the game because he's 100x the defender lou will or nick van exel were. Jrue has outplayed Tatum in the Finals so far.
You're acting a straight fool downplaying his impact. But that's not surprising.
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Today, 09:55 AM
He had the greatest overall basketball career of all time. RIP. I can't help but feel that the Lakers should have been the ones making this announcement, not the Clippers.
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Today, 09:54 AM
Wow, Rip.
Only all-time great player who also went on and became one of the best GMs in history.
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Today, 09:53 AM
Rest in Peace Jerry West. Just heard about it on ESPN. Was announced by the Clippers who he worked for... can't help but feel it's the Lakers that should be making this announcement.
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Today, 09:53 AM
Was 86 years old.
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Today, 09:49 AM
Did you look up that 1989 Piston team? When I say none of them averaged 20 I am talking about the whole team. Of course you didn't know that, you likely weren't even alive in 1989. You just desperately sought out some kind of argument. Sorry but you don't have one.
Jrue Holiday has made the allstar game twice and has one ring. I hope he soon...
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Today, 09:48 AM
You could also say Lebron was the best at Longevity while Jordan was 2nd or 3rd in Peak behind Mikan and Wilt. Depending on if you value rings or stats.
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Today, 09:45 AM
One of the many reasons I crap on Shaq as an all-timer is you look at his Miami team and you look at Bron's Miami and it's embarrassing to see how much talent was on that roster.
Shaq won a single tainted ring with three vet MVP level guys (Payton, and Mourning) along with a young core of Walker, Williams, Wade, and Haslem.
Everyone acts...
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Today, 09:38 AM
and then I was called extreme for being objective and eliminating subjectives
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Today, 09:38 AM
Not a single of them averaged 20 ppg, but you went ahead and mentioned a 37 year old Ray Allen who averaged like 11 PPG. :oldlol:
He was obviously a key contributor, but the way you went and said Miami had 4 hall of famers like Ray Allen was in his prime is pretty shameless.
And no, it leaves us at 3.
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Today, 09:32 AM
Basketball factors? Or teammates and health?
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Today, 09:23 AM
I sure hope it is not by design. It is nearly impossible to win when you allow that easy of penetration to collapse the defense on a team that excels at shooting threes off penetration.
He needs to play better on defense to a significant degree in order to beat a team like this. Same thing with the turnovers, obviously some are going to happen,...
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Today, 09:21 AM
You can't say peak MJ blows peak LeBron out of the water but you can so Lebron's longevity blows MJs out of the water
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Today, 09:19 AM
the problem with the narrative is that "athletic" and "explosive" plays is connected to the pace when it doesn't whatsoever
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Today, 09:16 AM
I go generation and position...peak and longevity are kinda of their own things and they are very subjective.
I value a productive longevity (Stockton, KAJ, Lebron, Duncan) but I also look at consistent peaks (Jordan, Dr J, Bird, West)
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Today, 09:15 AM
Tatum is significantly bigger than Irving. Tatum may now be a little taller than Ingram but wasn't in his first few years. Find another excuse.
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Today, 09:10 AM
This 100%.
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Today, 09:09 AM
It isn't always the case because there's other factors that go along with it. Kyrie is clearly a more skilled offensive player than Tatum for example.
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Today, 09:00 AM
I feel confident enough to say Derrick White has outplayed Jason Kidd in his 2011 finals run.
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Today, 08:57 AM
Chalmers definitely would've. He was a decent role player. Way more talented than like Derek Fisher or something.
Joel would be a bench scrub but when you sign 2 MVP talents and an All NBA talent all on max deals there's not gonna be much money left over.
They still ended up getting Birdman, Battier, and Ray who all played absolutely...
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Today, 08:47 AM
it's as if he's waiting for the segregation of straight men only gym, and gay men only gym etc.
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Today, 08:45 AM
Not panicking whatsoever 100% confidence in the boys that they can take the next two games
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Today, 08:45 AM
Yea, I agree with this.
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Today, 08:44 AM
As one of the biggest Tatum criticizers on here I think he's actually having a solid series
He's been great in terms of defense and rebounding and has made the right play 95% of the time
Dallas are sending multiple bodies at him every time he touches the ball which has opened up easy looks for the rest of the team
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Today, 08:43 AM
Yea. I was about to say this. With T-Mac, yea he didn't have the longevity, but he also didn't do much else. He never got out of the 1st round, never won an MVP, let alone a FMVP, was never DPOY or All-Defensive 1st Team (though an argument could be made that in a couple years, he was almost as good a defender as Kobe), etc.
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Today, 08:40 AM
Prime Joel Anthony wouldn't even make a 12 man roster in today's NBA, neither would Chalmers
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