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ForceOfNature
09-11-2008, 12:58 PM
Pick from the greatest political powers in the history of the world. Your performance will be based on the picks' political power and political impact.

I'd like to get posters with at least 1,000 posts. We can vote on the winners (voters should have above 1,000 posts). I guess we can make it... 10 powers per team?

Draft

Okay, The Draft Begins NOW. LakersDynasty is on the clock. Remember - pick guys who had to do with politics. Unfortunately, Jesus does not fit. I want to make a time limit... maybe 10 hours? We'll make it 10 hours for now.

Also - once you pick, put your selection down and pass it on to the next person using this:



Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - on the clock
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 2

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

ForceOfNature
09-11-2008, 01:31 PM
Bump.

DirtBag
09-11-2008, 03:01 PM
so how does this work now? don't worry about the less than 1000 posts, I am working on that # total.

Disreguard the how does this work. I thought you were picking forceofnature. My Bizzle! I want in

LJJ
09-11-2008, 03:02 PM
And with the first pick I choose.....

Hitler.

GOAT.

SCY
09-11-2008, 03:04 PM
Blogoffatman wil take Hoover with the 1st pick.

vapid
09-11-2008, 04:31 PM
I had a similar idea, but your execution is wrong.

ForceOfNature
09-11-2008, 06:36 PM
Forgot to add, this is a sign-up. People should sign up here if they're interested, this should be fun.

XxNeXuSxX
09-11-2008, 06:48 PM
In.

Lebron23
09-11-2008, 06:50 PM
Count me in

vapid
09-11-2008, 07:10 PM
**** it I guess I'll join

Paper Clip Guy
09-11-2008, 07:13 PM
Are paper clips disqualified? I sure know a lot about freedom fighter Bill Gates and how IBM is fascist. Not to mention apple is Communist, while Linux is simply anarchist crap.

Paper Clip Guy.

Doomsday Dallas
09-11-2008, 07:51 PM
I'm In every DRAFT.

8 rounds?

Lebron23
09-11-2008, 07:56 PM
How does it work?

We can also draft dominant Political figures in the Old Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Middle Ages, First German Empire, Prussian Empire, Japanese Imperial Army, Hitler's 3rd Reich, and Mongolian Empire.

Doomsday Dallas
09-11-2008, 08:00 PM
How does it work?

We can also draft dominant Political figures in the Old Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Middle Ages, First German Empire, Prussian Empire, Japanese Imperial Army, Hitler's 3rd Reich, and Mongolian Empire.

We should just stick to political figures since 1776?

1776... recent history... Everyone Agree?

That's my suggestion.

Otherwise I might have to draft Jesus Christ.

Besides, I kinda don't give a $hit about ancient history.

vapid
09-11-2008, 08:03 PM
I suggest "powers" in general, so we can add religious figures, generals, philosophers and artists.

Doomsday Dallas
09-11-2008, 08:07 PM
I suggest "powers" in general, so we can add religious figures, generals, philosophers and artists.

Well if that's the case, Jesus Christ is the Michael Jordan of this draft.

I'd actually prefer today's most power people.

ya know...

Putin, Bush, the Pope, Obama, Osama, Cheaney, Britney Spears... etc.

More of a WWIII type draft.

vapid
09-11-2008, 08:11 PM
Well if that's the case, Jesus Christ is the Michael Jordan of this draft.

I'd actually prefer today's most power people.

ya know...

Putin, Bush, the Pope, Obama, Osama, Cheaney, Britney Spears... etc.

More of a WWIII type draft.
Which one doesn't match?

And also, there are other religions and people out there... a few billion people also subscribe to buddhism islam and hinduism...

Doomsday Dallas
09-11-2008, 08:18 PM
Which one doesn't match?


Britney Spears owns the media, the paparazzi, and the minds of little women across the world... if that girl got the flu it would be headlined on CNN.com

But yea... it was a joke.



And also, there are other religions and people out there... a few billion people also subscribe to buddhism islam and hinduism...

yea... who are the people in China, India, and Pakistan that got power? that could be interesting to learn...

But, it's up to Force of Nature...

I just suggest that we keep it with todays most powerful people.

ForceOfNature
09-11-2008, 08:20 PM
How does it work?

We can also draft dominant Political figures in the Old Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Middle Ages, First German Empire, Prussian Empire, Japanese Imperial Army, Hitler's 3rd Reich, and Mongolian Empire.
We should just stick to political figures since 1776?

1776... recent history... Everyone Agree?

That's my suggestion.

Otherwise I might have to draft Jesus Christ.

Besides, I kinda don't give a $hit about ancient history.

Well, I still want to put somewhat old-time leaders in this draft, the thing is Jesus wasn't a political power, so he'd be undraftable. I would only consider political powers to be those who ruled (or helped rule) a country politically (Bush, Putin, etc.) or were ever involved in politics (like political rebels and revolutionaries). But not guys who weren't involved in politics (or guys who had a minimal role), like Newton, Da Vinci, Einstein, Jordan, etc.

This is based on the peoples' political power and political impact. That's what I'd like to have.

wTFaMonkey
09-11-2008, 08:22 PM
ill join

DirtBag
09-11-2008, 08:30 PM
Okay great, when do we start?

Lebron23
09-11-2008, 09:12 PM
I hope we can include some Ass Wipes in this thread, and i love arguing with those douche bag.

44 yrs.old loser are allowed to participate in the 2008 All time Political Draft.

ForceOfNature
09-11-2008, 09:15 PM
I hope we can include some Ass Wipes in this thread, and i love arguing with those douche bag.

44 yrs.old loser are allowed to participate in the 2008 All time Political Draft.

Sure man, argue with whomever you want. In fact, meaningful arguing is encouraged but don't go overboard.

Lebron23
09-11-2008, 09:20 PM
Well, I still want to put somewhat old-time leaders in this draft, the thing is Jesus wasn't a political power, so he'd be undraftable. I would only consider political powers to be those who ruled (or helped rule) a country politically (Bush, Putin, etc.) or were ever involved in politics (like political rebels and revolutionaries). But not guys who weren't involved in politics (or guys who had a minimal role), like Newton, Da Vinci, Einstein, Jordan, etc.

This is based on the peoples' political power and political impact. That's what I'd like to have.


Jesus was the great prophet, but he had some Political influence because during that time because Israel was under the regime of the Roman Empire, and they are afraid that someone will revolt againts them because Jesus Christ was a direct descendant of King David.

He's the heir to the throne because the Israelite still respect David because he's the one, who defeated the Philistines, and reunited the Kingdom after King Saul and his son Jonathan was killed in a battle.

The Jewish people wanted someone, who will help them in restoring the Kingdom in Israel, and one of the reason that Jesus Christ was crucified is because he's a powerful man.

hotsizzle
09-11-2008, 09:50 PM
I'm in

ForceOfNature
09-11-2008, 10:05 PM
Okay great, when do we start?
As soon as we have around 10 teams signed up and ready. Draft will start as soon as the teams are ready, so be prepared. There are 10 rounds of drafting.

Alright, as for the league itself, I may make it something simple like just vote on the best team after the drafting, OR ... if someone helps me out, I could have matchups every few days, and just do a regular type league with playoffs after the regular season.

DirtBag
09-11-2008, 11:01 PM
As soon as we have around 10 teams signed up and ready. Draft will start as soon as the teams are ready, so be prepared. There are 10 rounds of drafting.

Alright, as for the league itself, I may make it something simple like just vote on the best team after the drafting, OR ... if someone helps me out, I could have matchups every few days, and just do a regular type league with playoffs after the regular season.

Or create some wrestlers in their fashion on a game and then let them go at it in a HELL IN A CELL MATCH!!! or something like that...

ForceOfNature
09-12-2008, 02:22 PM
Bump, we just need 2 more active users to sign up, then we can get this thing underway.

Dasher
09-12-2008, 02:23 PM
Put me at the bottom of the first round and I will join.

ForceOfNature
09-12-2008, 02:31 PM
Put me at the bottom of the first round and I will join.
You got it.

ForceOfNature
09-13-2008, 11:55 AM
Bump. We really only need 3 more active users, I want to go up to 12 teams.

High Potential
09-13-2008, 12:17 PM
me me me

JtotheIzzo
09-13-2008, 12:55 PM
I'm in

RidonKs
09-13-2008, 12:59 PM
I feel like an administration draft would make way more sense than throwing Napoleon, Kahn, Stalin, and Mao together on the same team in a "pure power" draft. Something tells me there would be some tension and some clashing of egos. Have a hierarchy of positions that you need to fill, and this could actually become very interesting.

vapid
09-13-2008, 03:32 PM
I feel like an administration draft would make way more sense than throwing Napoleon, Kahn, Stalin, and Mao together on the same team in a "pure power" draft. Something tells me there would be some tension and some clashing of egos. Have a hierarchy of positions that you need to fill, and this could actually become very interesting.
Thats easy:

Napoleon would be emperor, Kahn can be a general, Stalin would be homeland security, and Mao can be the dirt pedophilistic peasant janitor that he should be.

LakersDynasty
09-13-2008, 03:33 PM
I want in, badly.

RidonKs
09-13-2008, 04:26 PM
Napoleon would be emperor, Kahn can be a general, Stalin would be homeland security, and Mao can be the dirt pedophilistic peasant janitor that he should be.
:oldlol:

ForceOfNature
09-13-2008, 04:27 PM
Alright, we got our field set then. No more entries, we're going to have the draft as soon as I get the order - it will be a snake draft.

ForceOfNature
09-13-2008, 04:36 PM
Draft order set:

1 - LakersDynasty
2 - WTFaMonkey
3 - Doomsday Dallas
4 - hotsizzle
5 - vapid
6 - Lebron23
7 - ForceOfNature
8 - DirtBag
9 - High Potential
10 - XxNeXusxX
11 - JtotheIzzo
12 - Dasher

After the first round, it's a snake draft so even rounds will go like this...

1 - Dasher
2 - JttotheIzzo
etc...

I'm sure you guys know how the snake draft works.

ForceOfNature
09-13-2008, 04:37 PM
Okay, The Draft Begins NOW. LakersDynasty is on the clock. Remember - pick guys who had to do with politics. Unfortunately, Jesus does not fit. I want to make a time limit... maybe 10 hours? We'll make it 10 hours for now.

Also - once you pick, put your selection down and pass it on to the next person using this:



Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - on the clock, time expires at 2:37 am EST
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 2

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

LakersDynasty
09-13-2008, 05:50 PM
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t059/T059139A.jpg

Joseph Stalin, known as a cruel dictator, was supreme leader of the Soviet Union from 1929 to 1953



Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Stalin
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 2

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Doomsday Dallas
09-13-2008, 05:53 PM
No History Lesson LakersDynasty?^

LakersDynasty
09-13-2008, 05:53 PM
No History Lesson LakersDynasty?^
:oldlol: He was very powerful.

vapid
09-13-2008, 06:01 PM
:oldlol: He was very powerful.
Stalin deserves more than that.

ForceOfNature
09-13-2008, 06:01 PM
wTFaMonkey on the clock, time expires at 3:50 am EST. I should add that we are drafting based on political impact, ability, significance, and power. Having said that, Stalin is a good first round pick.

ForceOfNature
09-13-2008, 06:26 PM
Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Stalin
2) WTFaMonkey - On the clock, time expires at 3:50 pm EST
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 2

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) WTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) WTFamonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

ikoiko
09-13-2008, 06:31 PM
I just hit myself over the head for being late to sign up for this draft. damn. i woulda picked genghis khan in the first round, GOAT conqueror.

High Potential
09-13-2008, 07:39 PM
So we're picking just individual leaders? We couldn't say, pick the civilization of Carthage?

vapid
09-13-2008, 11:13 PM
So we're picking just individual leaders? We couldn't say, pick the civilization of Carthage?
Why not just pick hannibal?

XxNeXuSxX
09-13-2008, 11:47 PM
We continuing?

Doomsday Dallas
09-13-2008, 11:55 PM
We continuing?

Should I make my pick?

vapid
09-13-2008, 11:56 PM
Should I make my pick?
Do it.

ForceOfNature
09-14-2008, 12:04 AM
Do it.
wtFamonkey's up right now. Just follow the PHP draft board guys. He has until 3:50 am EST to pick. If he doesn't pick by then, then Doomsday is up. If he does make his pick by then, then Doomsday picks right after him. Each person gets 10 hours max. to make their pick. If they don't, the next person can pick but the expired guy still has to pick whenever they get back.

You guys can PM me your picks too if you're not going to be here, or if you want to get some sleep.

Here's the draft board so far (remember to keep updating it every time you make a pick):



Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - on the clock
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 2

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Doomsday Dallas
09-14-2008, 12:08 AM
wtFamonkey's is up right now... okay...

but, here is a preview of what I might be piking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBHEPY6QjgU

But I'm not sure yet.... I will Wait.

vapid
09-14-2008, 12:09 AM
Oh i thought it said 350 pm EST, my bad.

hotsizzle
09-14-2008, 12:14 AM
Yo Dooms...I'm gonna be on ish well past 3:50 am EST, so if you're gonna get off, PM me your pick or something

Doomsday Dallas
09-14-2008, 12:17 AM
Yo Dooms...I'm gonna be on ish well past 3:50 am EST, so if you're gonna get off, PM me your pick or something

Cool... But I'm doing some freelance work on my computer tonight that I've procrastinated on... So I might be Up that time as well... But if I leave,.. I will PM you the pick.

hotsizzle
09-14-2008, 04:21 AM
Times up. its 4:21 EST

Doomsday Dallas
09-14-2008, 04:26 AM
Times up. its 4:21 EST

alright... let me think about this for a few minutes...

Hitler, Dick Cheaney, Obama, Bush Sr., Kennedy,.... Palin.

hmmmm....

give me a few minutes.

Doomsday Dallas
09-14-2008, 04:34 AM
Okay...

my pick =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TTo8DI4r9s

The day Democracy died.

vapid
09-14-2008, 04:36 AM
Okay...

my pick =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TTo8DI4r9s

The day Democracy died.
Kevin Costner?

hotsizzle
09-14-2008, 04:41 AM
I choose


NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
A political genius in every sense

http://www.solarnavigator.net/history/explorers_history/Napoleon_Bonapartes_portrait.jpg.

Doomsday Dallas
09-14-2008, 04:42 AM
Kevin Costner?

nope...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

vapid
09-14-2008, 04:53 AM
I pick: GAIUS JULUS CAESAR OCTAVIANUS, or better known as CAESAR AUGUSTUS.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Caesar_augustus.jpg
Not only blessed with some sweet names, caesar augustus was the First Emperor of Rome. After the assassination of Julius Caesar, his uncle, Augustus formed the 2nd Triumvirate and would later take the thrown of one of the greatest empires ever for himself.

He had the respect of the Senate, the military, and the people.

He established a vast system of paved roads, reformed the Roman tax system, and created a standing army, which established the infamous Pax Romana, a golden age of peace for TWO HUNDRED YEARS.

After his death, he was named a GOD. His name was taken by all later emperors.

The month of August was named after him.

With a combination of intelligence, military prowess, political shrewdness and skillful rulership, Julius Caesar Augustus can be considered one of if not the greatest political ruler ever.

http://www.historians.org/tl/LessonPlans/nc/Kinard/augustus.JPG

DirtBag
09-14-2008, 06:03 AM
Is that an infant hanging from his cloak?!

vapid
09-14-2008, 06:22 AM
Is that an infant hanging from his cloak?!
Not just any baby. That is supposed to be Eros, the son of Venus, the goddess of beauty. This is supposed to symbolize that Augustus was descended from the goddess of beauty herself. (Although it was also used as decoration as sculptors did not find a way to create free standing statues until later)

Lebron23
09-14-2008, 09:27 AM
LeBron23 selects Charlemagne aka Charles the Great, the first Holy Roman Emperor.

http://www.adam-carr.net/charlemagne.jpg

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs33/charlemagne2.jpg

ForceOfNature
09-14-2008, 10:42 AM
I select the great conqueror...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Genghis_Khan.jpg

Genghis Khan.

ForceOfNature
09-14-2008, 10:45 AM
Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - On the clock, time expires at 8:40 pm EST
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 2

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) wTFaMonkey -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) Lebron23 -
9) vapid -
10) hotsizzle -
11) Doomsday Dallas -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

XxNeXuSxX
09-14-2008, 10:47 AM
I select the great conqueror...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Genghis_Khan.jpg

Genghis Khan.
****.

ForceOfNature
09-14-2008, 11:09 AM
****.
LOL, I was surprised to see he was still available.

wTFaMonkey
09-14-2008, 01:10 PM
hey guys. sorry for being inactive fo rthe past 2 days.

the storm just hit and i was out of power. :mad:

just got power back. is there anyway that i can have the last pick for the 1st round and the first pick for the 2nd? etc etc etc


i hate hurricanes :rant

ForceOfNature
09-14-2008, 02:23 PM
hey guys. sorry for being inactive fo rthe past 2 days.

the storm just hit and i was out of power. :mad:

just got power back. is there anyway that i can have the last pick for the 1st round and the first pick for the 2nd? etc etc etc


i hate hurricanes :rant
Okay, since you're here, why don't you pick right now, and then in the second round you get the pick right after DirtBag (right before mine)? This would be the fairest way to do it, I hate do it because I jeopardize my 2nd round pick but hey, it's only fair.

wTFaMonkey
09-14-2008, 02:33 PM
Okay, since you're here, why don't you pick right now, and then in the second round you get the pick right after DirtBag (right before mine)? This would be the fairest way to do it, I hate do it because I jeopardize my 2nd round pick but hey, it's only fair.
ok. ill pick now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang

qin shi huang

first emperor of a unified china. built the great wall, terracota army.

died of mercury poison. :violin:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Cin_Shihhuang_Shaanxi_statue.jpg/450px-Cin_Shihhuang_Shaanxi_statue.jpg

vapid
09-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Qin shi huang is a nice pick. Also, forceofnature, please edit my pick, as I picked Julius Caesar Augustus, the first emperor of rome, not Gaius Julius Caesar, the one who was assasinated on the Ides of March, so people can still pick him.

ForceOfNature
09-14-2008, 08:58 PM
DirtBag's time has expired, so High Potential has to pick. DirtBag will pick whenever he gets back.

Here's the board, follow this:



Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - On the clock, time expires at 6:40 am EST
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 2

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) wTFaMonkey -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) Lebron23 -
9) vapid -
10) hotsizzle -
11) Doomsday Dallas -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

DirtBag
09-14-2008, 10:07 PM
Alexander the Great

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/TBDM16/Alexander.jpg

Alexander the Great (Greek: Αλέξανδρος ο Μέγας or Μέγας Aλέξανδρος,[1] Megas Alexandros; July 20, 356 BC[2]

ForceOfNature
09-14-2008, 10:10 PM
Alexander the Great

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/TBDM16/Alexander.jpg

Alexander the Great (Greek: Αλέξανδρος ο Μέγας or Μέγας Aλέξανδρος,[1] Megas Alexandros; July 20, 356 BC[2] – June 10 or June 11, 323 BC),[3] also known as Alexander III of Macedon (Greek: Αλέξανδρος Γ' ο Μακεδών) was an ancient Greek[4][5] king (basileus) of Macedon (336–323 BC). He was one of the most successful military commanders in history, and is presumed undefeated in battle. By the time of his death, he had conquered most of the world known to the ancient Greeks.

Alexander assumed the kingship of Macedon following the death of his father Philip II of Macedon. Philip had unified[6] most of the city-states of mainland Greece under Macedonian hegemony in a federation called the League of Corinth.[7] After reconfirming Macedonian rule by quashing a rebellion of southern Greek city-states, and staging a short but bloody excursion against Macedon's northern neighbors, Alexander set out east against the Achaemenid Persian Empire, which he defeated and overthrew. His conquests including Anatolia, Syria, Phoenicia, Judea, Gaza, Egypt, Bactria, and Mesopotamia, and extended the boundaries of his own empire as far as Punjab, India.

His attempts to merge Persian culture with his Greek soldiers also included training a regiment of Persian boys in the ways of Macedonians. Most historians believe that Alexander adopted the Persian royal title of Shahanshah (meaning: "The King of Kings").



My bad sorry it took so long
Whoa, I didn't know Alexander the Great was born a day before me. Great pick by the way.

DirtBag
09-14-2008, 10:24 PM
I thank you, I was surprised he slipped this far. I was thinking Ganghis Kahn would have to be my back up choice but he even got picked before.

XxNeXuSxX
09-14-2008, 10:29 PM
Damn the crop is shrinking. Still got my next two picks.

RidonKs
09-14-2008, 10:45 PM
CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL!!!!!! Do it do it do it!!

XxNeXuSxX
09-14-2008, 10:46 PM
CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL!!!!!! Do it do it do it!!
:cheers: where you been?

RidonKs
09-14-2008, 11:06 PM
:cheers: where you been?
Fighting for my country. It was a hell of a tour, I took as many Afghan bastards out as I could, but now I'm back and ready to delve back into the things that actually matter: the upcoming season and various fantasy drafts created by internerds.

XxNeXuSxX
09-14-2008, 11:08 PM
Fighting for my country. It was a hell of a tour, I took as many Afghan bastards out as I could, but now I'm back and ready to delve back into the things that actually matter: the upcoming season and various fantasy drafts created by internerds.
:eek: Can't tell if you're form real, you actually go on tour?

RidonKs
09-14-2008, 11:19 PM
:eek: Can't tell if you're form real, you actually go on tour?
Well... no. Not if you want to be all technical about it anyways. Although I did spend the summer deciding that if Stephen were to ask me nicely enough, I'd at least think about it for a minute, before politely declining. Chasing terrorist groups across desert planes isn't exactly my cup of tea.

I'll gladly discuss it from afar though.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 02:00 AM
Alexander the great, damn you took the pick right from under my feet

High Potential
09-15-2008, 02:12 AM
For the best pick of the draft, I command the badass one himself, the cracker Baron Davis...

http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/archives/king%20leonidas%20pretty%20pissed.jpg
King Leonidas!!!

There might have been larger empires in history, but there was never one as militarily sound as Leonidas' Sparta.


Leonidas (Greek: Λεωνίδας; "Lion's son", "Lion-like") was a king of Sparta, the 17th of the Agiad line, one of the sons of King Anaxandridas II of Sparta, who was believed to be a descendant of Heracles, possessing much of the strength and bravery that made his ancestor famous. While it has been established that King Leonidas of Sparta died at the Battle of Thermopylae in August, 480 B.C., very little is known about the year of his birth, or for that matter, his formative years. Paul Cartledge, a distinguished scholar and historian who has written countless volumes about the Spartans, has narrowed the date of the birth of King Leonidas to around 540 B.C. If it is assumed that Leonidas was born anywhere in the years subsequent to 540 B.C., this would have placed him in the 50+ year old range at the time of the conflict with the Persians. Leonidas was one of three brothers: he had an older brother Dorieus and a younger brother Cleombrotus, who ruled as regent for a while on Leonidas' death before the regency was taken over by Pausanias, who was Cleombrotus' son. Leonidas succeeded his half-brother Cleomenes I, probably in 489 or 488 BC, and was married to Cleomenes' daughter, Gorgo. His name was raised to heroic status as a result of the events in the Battle of Thermopylae, one of the most famous battles in ancient history.

DirtBag
09-15-2008, 02:17 AM
For the best pick of the draft, I command the badass one himself, the cracker Baron Davis...

http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/archives/king%20leonidas%20pretty%20pissed.jpg
King Leonidas!!!

There might have been larger empires in history, but there was never one as militarily sound as Leonidas' Sparta.

:applause:

Hawker
09-15-2008, 02:34 AM
Nexus takes Thomas Jefferson or Ron Paul.

DirtBag
09-15-2008, 02:40 AM
I am just as big a fan of Ron Paul as the next guy, but does he fit in the "political power" catagory???

wTFaMonkey
09-15-2008, 03:45 AM
ron paul has "potential" i just wouldnt see him as a worthy 1st round pick :D

thomas jefferson on the other hand could be a nice steal

XxNeXuSxX
09-15-2008, 08:18 AM
Ivan the Terrible

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Chaliapin_F._(%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BF%D0%B8 %D0%BD_%D0%A4._%D0%98.)_1911_as_Ivan_the_Terrible_ in_Rimsky-Korsakov%27s_The_Maid_of_Pskov.jpg

[QUOTE]Ivan IV Vasilyevich (Russian: Ива́н Четвёртый, Васи́льевич?

DirtBag
09-15-2008, 08:27 AM
Almost off work, I am going to go home and play w/ the puppy then sleep. Should be back on by 330pm pacific time.

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 09:14 AM
It's JtotheIzzo's turn.



Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - On the clock, time expires at 6:18 pm EST
12) Dasher -

Round 2

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) wTFaMonkey -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) Lebron23 -
9) vapid -
10) hotsizzle -
11) Doomsday Dallas -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Dasher
09-15-2008, 11:28 AM
Bump

JtotheIzzo
09-15-2008, 11:38 AM
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

http://www.sirlin.net/images/ghandi.jpg

[QUOTE]Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (Gujarati: મોહનદાસ કરમચંદ ગાંધી, IPA: [moɦən̪d̪

Dasher
09-15-2008, 11:50 AM
http://wiki.rpg.net/images/6/67/Attila_the_hun.jpg
Born:406
Nicknames: The Scourge of God
Stats:Ruled From 434-453
Empire:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Huns_empire.png/300px-Huns_empire.png


His sword is said to have come to him by miraculous means:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/MuseeMarine-sabre-p1000456.jpg/800px-MuseeMarine-sabre-p1000456.jpg

Western tradition paints him as a the epitome of cruelty, but other chronicles regard him as a noble and just fellow.

XxNeXuSxX
09-15-2008, 11:52 AM
Dasher picks twice

Dasher
09-15-2008, 12:01 PM
http://floortwo.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/robespierre.jpg

Maximillen Robespierre(May 6th, 1758 to July 28, 1794)

He, as member of the Commision of Public Safety is largely responsible for the Reign of Terror following the French Revolution, which I regard as the greatest revolution of all-time. His orchestration of the executions of royal couple was exquisite. Later political figures, such as Karl Rove have learned the lessons of Robespierre and have put them to use in using public frenzy and denunciations to remain in power.


Current Squad:

Conquerer:Attilla The Hun
Manager of Pubic Unrest/Secretary of the Interior:Maximilien Robespierre.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 12:12 PM
Dammit, I was going to get Robespierre. He could take out any other empire.

JtotheIzzo
09-15-2008, 12:33 PM
-The father of modern China

Dr.Sun Yat Sen

http://nhs.needham.k12.ma.us/cur/Baker_00/2001_p6/baker_js_p6/Intro.jpg


[QUOTE]Sun Yat-sen (November 12, 1866

XxNeXuSxX
09-15-2008, 12:36 PM
Julius Caesar-Founder of the Roman Empire

http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/descent/photos/Julius.Caesar.2.jpg

High Potential
09-15-2008, 12:43 PM
Fidel Castro, survivor of 638 assassination attempts from the usa government, who rules Cuba with an iron fist, and master of revolutions
http://www.kennerly.com/images_pix/140_Fidel-Castro.jpg

JtotheIzzo
09-15-2008, 12:45 PM
Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla

Round 2

1) Dasher - Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Ceasar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag -
6) wTFaMonkey -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) Lebron23 -
9) vapid -
10) hotsizzle -
11) Doomsday Dallas -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

intrinsic
09-15-2008, 12:46 PM
Fidel Castro, survivor of 97 assassination attempts from the usa government, who rules Cuba with an iron fist, and master of revolutions


Why would you pick Castro before Minh?

High Potential
09-15-2008, 12:47 PM
Why would you pick Castro before Minh?
Cuz castro survived 638 assassination attempts from the USA government.

intrinsic
09-15-2008, 12:53 PM
Cuz castro survived 97 assassination attempts from the USA government.

pretty much what I expected.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 12:56 PM
pretty much what I expected.
Not to mention Ho Chi Minh got ganked by USA. Fidel, in tiny Cuba, managed to hold them off. World leaders are always targets of assassination, and in a draft of political leaders, the ability to survive them is valuable.

intrinsic
09-15-2008, 01:48 PM
Not to mention Ho Chi Minh got ganked by USA. Fidel, in tiny Cuba, managed to hold them off. World leaders are always targets of assassination, and in a draft of political leaders, the ability to survive them is valuable.

So basically, you choose to ignore the diplomacy and overall impact of Ho Chi Minh in favor of who lived longer. Do you realize that communism was a necessary form of government in the North's quest for independence?

High Potential
09-15-2008, 01:52 PM
So basically, you choose to ignore the diplomacy and overall impact of Ho Chi Minh in favor of who lived longer. Do you realize that communism was a necessary form of government in the North's quest for independence?
Look. Fidel had to have pretty good diplomacy to not get invaded by a neighboring enemy country 100 times its size, while Ho Chi Minh's Vietnam got owned.

intrinsic
09-15-2008, 01:56 PM
Look. Fidel had to have pretty good diplomacy to not get invaded by a neighboring enemy country 100 times its size, while Ho Chi Minh's Vietnam got owned.

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 02:03 PM
You really have no idea what you're talking about.
Did Cuba get invaded by America? Yes, and Cuba fought it off. Did Vietnam get invaded by America? Yes, and their country got raped.

vapid
09-15-2008, 02:11 PM
-The father of modern China

Dr.Sun Yat Sen


:applause: :applause: Love that man.

MarloStanfield
09-15-2008, 02:15 PM
Cuz castro survived 97 assassination attempts from the USA government.
638 total...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/638_Ways_to_Kill_Castro

High Potential
09-15-2008, 02:18 PM
638 total...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/638_Ways_to_Kill_Castro
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 06:34 PM
Thanks JtotheIzzo for keeping track. To other contestants - make sure to keep this list updated, just add yours to the list whenever you pick.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - On the clock, time expires at 8:43 pm EST
6) wTFaMonkey -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) Lebron23 -
9) vapid -
10) hotsizzle -
11) Doomsday Dallas -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

High Potential
09-15-2008, 06:43 PM
I'm surprised a big one wasn't picked yet...Although, his chemistry would not really work out with other people to say the least, lol..
hitler..

no one wants a nazi closet homo that's why.

Doomsday Dallas
09-15-2008, 06:43 PM
I'm surprised a big one wasn't picked yet...Although, his chemistry would not really work out with other people to say the least, lol..

I think I might take him too...

I need 4 "so-called-good" political powers. (like JFK)

and I need 4 of the most evil S.O.B.'s that were under the influence of the Dark Side.

A perfect balance of the force.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 06:46 PM
I got Leonidas and Fidel Castro. One is a badass warrior who can inspire his people and troops to take out 20,000 persians with only 300 men. The other is a master of revolution and has a country where his word is law. And also survived 638 assassination attempts and attempted invasion by one of the most powerful governments in the world.

My team is certainly the most badass, if nothing else can be said about it.

Bean
09-15-2008, 06:50 PM
hitler..

no one wants a nazi closet homo that's why.

I'm also surprised this guy wasn't picked yet.

Doomsday Dallas
09-15-2008, 06:50 PM
I got Leonidas and Fidel Castro. One is a badass warrior who can inspire his people and troops to take out 20,000 persians with only 300 men. The other is a master of revolution and has a country where his word is law. And also survived 638 assassination attempts and attempted invasion by one of the most powerful governments in the world.

My team is certainly the most badass, if nothing else can be said about it.


My first round pick got his brains blown out in Downtown Dallas. But atleast he had an idea.

vapid
09-15-2008, 06:51 PM
I got Leonidas and Fidel Castro. One is a badass warrior who can inspire his people and troops to take out 20,000 persians with only 300 men. The other is a master of revolution and has a country where his word is law. And also survived 638 assassination attempts and attempted invasion by one of the most powerful governments in the world.

My team is certainly the most badass, if nothing else can be said about it.
You have a horrible team. I wouldn't have picked either of them even in the 7th round.

wTFaMonkey
09-15-2008, 06:52 PM
I got Leonidas and Fidel Castro. One is a badass warrior who can inspire his people and troops to take out 20,000 persians with only 300 men. The other is a master of revolution and has a country where his word is law. And also survived 638 assassination attempts and attempted invasion by one of the most powerful governments in the world.

My team is certainly the most badass, if nothing else can be said about it.

leonidas is vastly overated imo.

and he didnt defeat 20000 persians with 300 troops.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 06:55 PM
leonidas is vastly overated imo.

and he didnt defeat 20000 persians with 300 troops.
Yes he did. Sure he had the help of about 9,000 other greeks, but if you're seen 300 you'd know it was the Spartans doing all the heavy lifting. His martyrdom inspired Greece to fight off Persia instead of folding, and possibly saved Western civilization as we know it.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 06:55 PM
You have a horrible team. I wouldn't have picked either of them even in the 7th round.
You would have picked nerdy bookworm intellectuals with glasses I'm guessing. I go for pure pimptitude and baddassery with my picks.

vapid
09-15-2008, 06:59 PM
You would have picked nerdy bookworm intellectuals with glasses I'm guessing. I go for pure pimptitude and baddassery with my picks.
Leonidas had sex with little boys. That's pimptitude? My guy could have women from three continents and filled cities with harems. Leonidas was a king of a small region and Castro is dictator of a backwards country. Augustus was the first emperor of one of the greatest empires ever.

You just suck at picking.

Doomsday Dallas
09-15-2008, 07:01 PM
My pick banged Marylin Monroe in front of the whole country.

Bean
09-15-2008, 07:02 PM
Leonidas had sex with little boys. That's pimptitude? My guy could have women from three continents and filled cities with harems. Leonidas was a king of a small region and Castro is dictator of a backwards country. Augustus was the first emperor of the greatest empire ever.

You just suck at picking.


...fixed.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:03 PM
Leonidas had sex with little boys. That's pimptitude? My guy could have women from three continents and filled cities with harems. Leonidas was a king of a small region and Castro is dictator of a backwards country. Augustus was the first emperor of one of the greatest empires ever.

You just suck at picking.
Boy loving was outlawed in Sparta son. Sparta may have been a small country, but he basically saved Western civilization as we know it by standing up to Persia. Castro is a master of revolution, and survived death attacks from the most powerful country in the world. The thing about Castro is, while his regime really isn't that great, I can send him and his little general buddies into your regimes and completely overturn them through glorious revolution. Leonidas represents giving hope to the masses, plus is a badass, and Castro just revolutionizes foos like Mr. T. Rome is overrated, it got owned by little forest dwelling barbarians.

vapid
09-15-2008, 07:04 PM
...fixed.
what did you fix?

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:06 PM
what did you fix?
I had to check too, but you said Augustus' empire was one of the greatest empires and he changed it so you said it was "the greatest"

Did you know Augustus used to take it up the ass from the first Julius Ceasar?

Bean
09-15-2008, 07:06 PM
what did you fix?

You said, "First emperor of one of the greatest empires ever"

I said, "First emperor of the greatest empire ever".

DirtBag
09-15-2008, 07:08 PM
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/patisullivan/heros/NelsonMandela.jpg Nelson Mandela

Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela (IPA: [xol

wTFaMonkey
09-15-2008, 07:09 PM
Yes he did. Sure he had the help of about 9,000 other greeks, but if you're seen 300 you'd know it was the Spartans doing all the heavy lifting. His martyrdom inspired Greece to fight off Persia instead of folding, and possibly saved Western civilization as we know it.
Leonidas had 300 spartans. and about 2000 other troops with him. they still didnt win.

fail. sure 300 was a badass movie. but come on. leonidas is overated.

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 07:10 PM
wTFamonkey, it's your turn.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:11 PM
[QUOTE=DirtBag]http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/patisullivan/heros/NelsonMandela.jpg Nelson Mandela

Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela (IPA: [xol

DirtBag
09-15-2008, 07:15 PM
It's all about the message, what people decide to do with it, is up to them

vapid
09-15-2008, 07:15 PM
Boy loving was outlawed in Sparta son. Sparta may have been a small country, but he basically saved Western civilization as we know it by standing up to Persia. Castro is a master of revolution, and survived death attacks from the most powerful country in the world. The thing about Castro is, while his regime really isn't that great, I can send him and his little general buddies into your regimes and completely overturn them through glorious revolution. Leonidas represents giving hope to the masses, plus is a badass, and Castro just revolutionizes foos like Mr. T.
Castro needed Che for help. Sparta was just a piece of the puzzle in the Greco-Persian wars, and Leonidas a little cog of that piece. Leonidas could have been replaced very easily. Also, the U.S. didn't try directly to assassinate Castro many of those times. They often just funded Cuban guerrillas. Furthermore, Augustus was able to climb to the top of the Roman Empire during a period of political turmoil. I'm sure he knows how to quell a rebellion or two. In fact, as I pointed out, he was able to quell enough rebellions to establish peace for 200 years.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:15 PM
Leonidas had 300 spartans. and about 2000 other troops with him. they still didnt win.

fail. sure 300 was a badass movie. but come on. leonidas is overated.
They killed 20,000 Persians. it was a moral victory. If Sparta didn't stand up to Persia, Greece might very well have fallen, or been swallowed up by Persian culture atleast. And as you know, Greece is the very cradle of Western Civilization.

The Persians succeeded in taking the pass but sustained losses disproportionate to those of the Greeks. The fierce resistance of the Spartan-led army offered Athens the invaluable time to prepare for a decisive naval battle that would determine the outcome of the war.[7] The subsequent Greek victory at the Battle of Salamis left much of the Persian Empire's navy destroyed and Xerxes retreated to Asia, leaving a force in Greece under Mardonius, who was to complete the subjugation of the Greeks. The Spartans assembled at full strength and led a pan-Greek army that defeated the main Persian force at the Battle of Plataea. This battle ended the Greco-Persian War and the expansion of the Persian Empire into Europe.[8]

Both ancient and modern writers have used the Battle of Thermopylae as an example of the superior power of a patriotic army of freemen defending native soil.[9] The performance of the defenders at the battle of Thermopylae is also used as an example of the advantages of training, equipment, and good use of terrain as force multipliers,[10] and has become a symbol of courage against overwhelming odds.[10]
Without Leonidas, all of us might be speaking Persian today.

wTFaMonkey
09-15-2008, 07:17 PM
Confucius

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Confucius_Laozi_Buddha.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucius

Confucius. arguably most famous philosopher to ever live.

do I need to say more? his name alone is godly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxwr5jfBjqI

vapid
09-15-2008, 07:19 PM
Damn wtf stealing some of my picks... although hes not directly a politician. Does that open the doors for people like einstein and Plato?

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 07:22 PM
Damn wtf stealing some of my picks... although hes not directly a politician. Does that open the doors for people like einstein and Plato?
That's true - Confucious was not a politician. You have to re-pick, this is only a political powers thread. Confucious influenced culture and religion significantly, but not politics.

Doomsday Dallas
09-15-2008, 07:23 PM
philosophers are not allowed unless they have a some sort of position in politics.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:23 PM
Castro needed Che for help. Sparta was just a piece of the puzzle in the Greco-Persian wars, and Leonidas a little cog of that piece. Leonidas could have been replaced very easily. Also, the U.S. didn't try directly to assassinate Castro many of those times. They often just funded Cuban guerrillas. Furthermore, Augustus was able to climb to the top of the Roman Empire during a period of political turmoil. I'm sure he knows how to quell a rebellion or two. In fact, as I pointed out, he was able to quell enough rebellions to establish peace for 200 years.
Yes Castro needed Che. Isn't this about picking the Political Power though? Che was a member under Castro's regime so he comes with the territory of drafting Fidel.

Sparta was physically small but as part of the war it was massive. The battle of Thermopylae allowed the Athenians enough time to assemble their navy and thusly crush Persia in the ensuing battle. I also challenge someone to find another leader who could go up against Leonidas 1v1 sword vs sword and come out on top.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:26 PM
You can pick that Chinese guy who built the great wall and stuck all those bodies in it instead.

vapid
09-15-2008, 07:28 PM
You can pick that Chinese guy who built the great wall and stuck all those bodies in it instead.
He's already been picked dumbass.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:31 PM
He's already been picked dumbass.
Sue me.

I must point out that the Ancient Egyptians are being ignored here.

wTFaMonkey
09-15-2008, 07:34 PM
BEN FRANKLIN

http://artofmanliness.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ben_franklin.jpg

go look at your 100

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:36 PM
BEN FRANKLIN

http://artofmanliness.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ben_franklin.jpg
He was an inventor and philosopher more than he was a politician. Other than being one of Pennsylvania's delegates in the constitutional convention, did he ever really fulfill a position of public service?

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 07:36 PM
BEN FRANKLIN

http://artofmanliness.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ben_franklin.jpg

go look at your 100
Yeah, he did indeed have a political role in history. Better pick.

wTFaMonkey
09-15-2008, 07:38 PM
He was an inventor and philosopher more than he was a politician. Other than being one of Pennsylvania's delegates in the constitutional convention, did he ever really fulfill a position of public service?

he was one of our founding fathers!
http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/joinordie2.jpg

remember this? yeah he drew it

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:38 PM
Picking Ben Franklin is like picking Thomas Paine though. Was he really a political power?

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:40 PM
he was one of our founding fathers!
http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/joinordie2.jpg

remember this? yeah he drew it
I know he served as one of the delegates for Pennsylvania in the constitutional convention but is that really enough to qualify him as a political power?

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 07:42 PM
With my pick, I select...

Abraham Lincoln, one of the greatest unifiers and nation builders of all time. He was a tactful politician and an outstanding speaker. Without him, the United States would not be what it is today, and that's saying a lot.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Abraham_Lincoln_head_on_shoulders_photo_portrait.j pg/456px-Abraham_Lincoln_head_on_shoulders_photo_portrait.j pg

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln

Abraham Lincoln (February 12, 1809 – April 15, 1865), the sixteenth President of the United States, successfully led his country through its greatest internal crisis, the American Civil War, only to be assassinated less than a week after the war's end.[1] Before his election as President, Lincoln was a lawyer, an Illinois state legislator, a member of the United States House of Representatives, and an unsuccessful candidate for election to the Senate.

As an outspoken opponent of the expansion of slavery in the United States,[2][3] Lincoln won the Republican Party nomination in 1860 and was elected president later that year. During his term, he helped preserve the United States by leading the defeat of the secessionist Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. He introduced measures that resulted in the abolition of slavery, issuing his Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 and promoting the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which passed Congress before Lincoln's death and was ratified by the states later in 1865.

Lincoln closely supervised the victorious war effort, especially the selection of top generals, including Ulysses S. Grant. Historians have concluded that he handled the factions of the Republican Party well, bringing leaders of each faction into his cabinet and forcing them to cooperate. Lincoln successfully defused a war scare with the United Kingdom in 1861. Under his leadership, the Union took control of the border slave states at the start of the war. Additionally, he managed his own reelection in the 1864 presidential election.

Opponents of the war (also known as "Copperheads") criticized Lincoln for refusing to compromise on the slavery issue. Conversely, the Radical Republicans, an abolitionist faction of the Republican Party, criticized him for moving too slowly in abolishing slavery. Even with these road blocks, Lincoln successfully rallied public opinion through his rhetoric and speeches; his Gettysburg Address is but one example of this. At the close of the war, Lincoln held a moderate view of Reconstruction, seeking to speedily reunite the nation through a policy of generous reconciliation. His assassination in 1865 was the first presidential assassination in U.S. history and made him a martyr for the ideal of national unity.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - On the clock, time expires at 5:42 am EST
9) vapid -
10) hotsizzle -
11) Doomsday Dallas -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

vapid
09-15-2008, 07:42 PM
I say ben franklin definitely qualifies.

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:45 PM
I say ben franklin definitely qualifies.
Well Leonidas would shank his fat ass.

vapid
09-15-2008, 07:48 PM
Well Leonidas would shank his fat ass.
How old are you?

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 07:48 PM
Just to clear it up guys - You gotta pick only men or women who have served in politics or were/are politicians. For the record, people like Jesus Christ, Confucious, Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X are not allowable for this draft.

MarloStanfield
09-15-2008, 07:53 PM
No one has picked that guy from Germany yet?

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 07:54 PM
No one has picked that guy from Germany yet?
That guy from Germany who lost World War II and killed himself because he lost?

Bean
09-15-2008, 07:55 PM
No one has picked that guy from Germany yet?

Still surprised.

MarloStanfield
09-15-2008, 07:55 PM
LOL But JFK and Ben Franklin were picked ahead of him?

LakersDynasty
09-15-2008, 07:56 PM
I know who I'm going to pick but there's 3 guys ahead of me so I'm sure he'll be taken by the time it's my turn. Let's go Vap.

vapid
09-15-2008, 07:56 PM
I know who I'm going to pick but there's 3 guys ahead of me so I'm sure he'll be taken by the time it's my turn. Let's go Vap.
I think its Lebron23's turn right?

High Potential
09-15-2008, 07:56 PM
No one wants to be labeled an N-word I'm thinking.

LakersDynasty
09-15-2008, 07:57 PM
I think its Lebron23's turn right?
Yeah it is. Didn't notice.

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 07:58 PM
No one wants to be labeled an N-word I'm thinking.
I couldn't care less what I get called. I just think he has some major flaws that play a negative role in his reputation as a great political leader.

Lebron23
09-15-2008, 09:06 PM
LeBron23 selects Charles V- Holy Roman Emperor

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/8e/250px-Emperor_charles_v.png

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/e/ee/250px-Tizian_066.jpg


[quote]Charles V was ruler of the Holy Roman Empire from 1519 and, as Charles I of Spain, of the Spanish realms from 1516 until his abdication in 1556. On the eve of his death in 1558, the Spanish empire spanned almost 4 million square kilometers.

As the heir of four of Europe's leading dynasties

XxNeXuSxX
09-15-2008, 09:14 PM
I'm going to give my summary of the first two rounds when this one ends.

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 09:25 PM
Vapid on the clock.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - On the clock
10) hotsizzle -
11) Doomsday Dallas -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

vapid
09-15-2008, 09:32 PM
I'll take Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/FDR_in_1933.jpg/225px-FDR_in_1933.jpg
We all know about FDR. Took over as president when the country was in the Great Depression, was the only president to serve four terms, through WW2

I picked FDR because he has the courage to innovate and try new tactics (New Deal) to try to get the country out of a tough place, even if they aren't all successful, it is key to have a statesman that innovates.

Also, FDR knows when a sacrifice is necessary. Knowing that the attack on Pearl Harbor was imminent, he didn't try to stop it because he knew entering the war was necessary.

Furthermore, FDR has the courage and charisma to lead the country through some of the most disastrous times in its history.

ForceOfNature
09-15-2008, 10:23 PM
Hotsizzle, your turn. Hey hotsizzle - maybe you can run this thing a little while I go to bed soon? If so, thanks.



Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - On the clock, time expires at 7:32 am EST
11) Doomsday Dallas -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

WhiteMosɘs
09-15-2008, 10:37 PM
I'm wondering when Canada will get love, probably quite a bit later. Anyways everyone is talking about Hitler, I'm wondering about his adversary...

The sun never sets on the British empire.

vapid
09-15-2008, 10:44 PM
I'm wondering when Canada will get love, probably quite a bit later. Anyways everyone is talking about Hitler, I'm wondering about his adversary...

The sun never sets on the British empire.
try not to talk about unpicked people. and tbh I don't know of any canadian politician worth picking.

WhiteMosɘs
09-15-2008, 10:47 PM
try not to talk about unpicked people. and tbh I don't know of any canadian politician worth picking.

You're right, they didn't talk about Hitler beforehand. I figure there will be Canadian politicians worth picking. But I won't talk about them.

hotsizzle
09-16-2008, 12:29 AM
Fredrick II of Prussia also known as Fredrick the Great.

http://www.itminddesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/fryderyk_21.jpg


Frederick the Great skillfully employed the limited Prussian resources to make his kingdom the most powerful German state during the seven Years War (1756-63). In 1772 he participated in the first partition of Poland, and by the time he died he had doubled the area of his country.

He brought many changes which reflect the philosophical movement known as the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment was an intellectual movement during the second half of the Eighteenth Century, marked by an intense interest in social progress, reason and the birth of social science.


And yea I'll keep this thing updated Force.

Up next is Dooms

hotsizzle
09-16-2008, 12:30 AM
Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - On the clock, time expires at 10:30 am EST
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Doomsday Dallas
09-16-2008, 01:04 AM
My pick =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8DpKKSmaa8

vapid
09-16-2008, 01:08 AM
My pick =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8DpKKSmaa8
Wow....

WhiteMosɘs
09-16-2008, 01:34 AM
To keep vapid happy, I won't mention the name of the steal I have in my head. But he'll be steal if you guys keep picking other people.:hammerhead:

vapid
09-16-2008, 01:35 AM
To keep vapid happy, I won't mention the name of the steal I have in my head. But he'll be steal if you guys keep picking other people.:hammerhead:
To keep me happier you can pm it to me. :D

WhiteMosɘs
09-16-2008, 01:43 AM
To keep me happier you can pm it to me. :D

Tell me that smile means you know who I'm talking about?

Doomsday Dallas
09-16-2008, 01:54 AM
You guys realize that Moses is recognized as one of the greatest law makers in the United States Capital? He is in a ring of honor.

hotsizzle
09-16-2008, 02:03 AM
LakersDynasty is UP


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - On the clock, time expires at 11:04 pm EST

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

vapid
09-16-2008, 02:05 AM
You guys realize that Moses is recognized as one of the greatest law makers in the United States Capital? He is in a ring of honor.
This sentence makes no sense. And you should be ashamed of picking Ron Paul.

WhiteMosɘs
09-16-2008, 02:06 AM
This sentence makes no sense. And you should be ashamed of picking Ron Paul.

Yeah, many guys were available. You're really going to be feeling that decision come......season-time?

Doomsday Dallas
09-16-2008, 02:09 AM
Wow... I wish should of drafted for evil men... I could of dominated this draft.

Oh well, Hitler is still available.

Doomsday Dallas
09-16-2008, 02:11 AM
This sentence makes no sense. And you should be ashamed of picking Ron Paul.

I'm building a team to fight against the evils of men... and while that sentence i wrote... that you quoted makes no sense... Moses has a picture of himself in the U.S. capital (WhiteMoses)...

I'm drunk.

Cowboys won.

Doomsday Dallas
09-16-2008, 02:13 AM
And you should be ashamed of picking Ron Paul.

Abraham Lincoln was gonna be my next pick.

good job ForceOfNature.

LakersDynasty
09-16-2008, 02:28 AM
Not a guy I wanted to pick but he's a steal in the late second round. He's the worst human being of all time, the devil himself...Adolf Hitler.

http://persistentillusion.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/hitler.jpg

[QUOTE]Adolf Hitler (20 April 1889, Braunau am Inn, Austria-Hungary – 30 April 1945, Berlin, Germany) was an Austrian-born German politician who led the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei NSDAP), more commonly known as the Nazi Party. He was Chancellor of Germany (1933–1945) and F

LakersDynasty
09-16-2008, 02:34 AM
Was going to go with George Washington initially but I want to go for complete and utter dominance in the dictatorship category. So my choice is the guy who ruled Iraq with an Iron Fist for 24 years...Saddam Hussein.

http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20061228/475_ap_saddam_061228.jpg



Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti (Arabic: صدام حسين عبد المجيد التكريتي Ṣaddām Ḥusayn ʿAbd al-Majīd al-Tikrītī[1]; April 28, 1937[2] – December 30, 2006)[3] was the President of Iraq from July 16, 1979 until April 9, 2003.[4][5]

A leading member of the revolutionary Ba'ath Party, which espoused secular pan-Arabism, economic modernization, and Arab socialism, Saddam played a key role in the 1968 coup that brought the party to long-term power. As vice president under the ailing General Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr, Saddam tightly controlled conflict between the government and the armed forces — at a time when many other groups were considered capable of overthrowing the government — by creating repressive security forces. In the early 1970s, Saddam spearheaded Iraq's nationalization of the Western-owned Iraq Petroleum Company, which had long held a monopoly on the country's oil. Through the 1970s, Saddam cemented his authority over the apparatuses of government as Iraq's economy grew at a rapid pace.[6]

As president, Saddam maintained power during the Iran–Iraq War (1980-1988) and the first Persian Gulf War (1991). During these conflicts, Saddam repressed movements he considered threatening to the stability of Iraq, particularly Shi'a and Kurdish movements seeking to overthrow the government or gain independence, respectively. Whereas some Arabs looked upon him as a hero for his aggressive stance against foreign intervention and for his support for the Palestinians,[7] United States leaders continued to view Saddam with deep suspicion following the 1991 Persian Gulf War. Saddam was deposed by the U.S. and its allies during the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Captured by U.S. forces on December 13, 2003, Saddam was brought to trial under the Iraqi interim government set up by U.S.-led forces. On November 5, 2006, he was convicted of charges related to the executions of 148 Iraqi Shi'ites suspected of planning an assassination attempt against him, and was sentenced to death by hanging. Saddam was executed on December 30, 2006

LakersDynasty
09-16-2008, 02:54 AM
WTFaMonkey is up


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - Adolf Hitler

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty - Saddam Hussein
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Doomsday Dallas
09-16-2008, 03:04 AM
this draft order makes no sense.

look at WTFAMONKEY?

DirtBag
09-16-2008, 03:18 AM
nice catch

LakersDynasty
09-16-2008, 03:21 AM
It probably got mixed up when it took WTFaMonkey a while to make his pick. But for the most part people here aren't looking to draft the same guys so it shouldn't be a problem. Starting from the 3rd round to the 10th round the order is correct, just gotta make sure to keep it that way. People should make a habit of logging into this thread every 6-8 hours to keep the draft active.

vapid
09-16-2008, 03:30 AM
weird I didn't think it was his turn either.

High Potential
09-16-2008, 04:38 AM
ron paul, wtf is that ish

ForceOfNature
09-16-2008, 07:49 AM
this draft order makes no sense.

look at WTFAMONKEY?

It's just because of Hurricane Ike, he missed his first round pick even though he would have been online. So about 5 people went after him. To be fair, I gave him what I thought was a fair position 2nd round pick. After the 2nd round though, it's all the same.

ForceOfNature
09-16-2008, 01:26 PM
wTF and Dooms on the clock.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - Adolf Hitler

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty - Saddam Hussein
2) wTFaMonkey - time expired, still has to pick
3) Doomsday Dallas - On the clock, time expires at 8:54 pm EST
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

wTFaMonkey
09-16-2008, 03:35 PM
Vladimir Lenin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin

http://img.timeinc.net/time/time100/images/main_lenin.jpg

vapid
09-16-2008, 04:41 PM
Dooms is on the clock.

hotsizzle
09-16-2008, 08:30 PM
bump

ForceOfNature
09-16-2008, 08:31 PM
Dooms on the clock for 23 more minutes, then sizzle.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - Adolf Hitler

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty - Saddam Hussein
2) wTFaMonkey - Vladimir Lenin
3) Doomsday Dallas - On the clock, time expires at 8:54 pm EST
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

High Potential
09-16-2008, 08:32 PM
Lenin? Ben Franklin? Ron Paul? What is it with the recent trend of drafting guys who never actually had any political power? Lenin was a key member of the revolution but after that he got exiled to Siberia and then killed with an ice pick. Ben Franklin was only a part of the United States constitutional convention and he wasn't even the clearcut greatest man there. Infact contemporary accounts of the convention state that Ben was just the "comic relief that held the conference together"

How is that political power?

ForceOfNature
09-16-2008, 09:21 PM
Hotsizzle's turn.

Dooms on the clock for 23 more minutes, then sizzle.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - Adolf Hitler

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty - Saddam Hussein
2) wTFaMonkey - Vladimir Lenin
3) Doomsday Dallas - Martin Luther King, Jr.
4) hotsizzle - On the clock, time expires at 6:54 am EST
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Doomsday Dallas
09-16-2008, 10:31 PM
George Washington.

(.... But I'd rather pick MLK... is that cool?)

InspiredLebowski
09-16-2008, 10:36 PM
"Hitler is a steal in the late 2nd round"

That literally makes me LOL :oldlol:

LakersDynasty
09-16-2008, 10:37 PM
"Hitler is a steal in the late 2nd round"

That literally makes me LOL :oldlol:
Too much fantasy sports for me. :oldlol:

InspiredLebowski
09-16-2008, 10:40 PM
Too much fantasy sports for me. :oldlol:

Guy 1: Had a fantasy draft today
Guy 2: Oh yeah? Who'd ya get?
Guy 1: Stalin, and HITLER IN THE 2ND MAN! Championship!
Guy 2: Wow, fantasy sports really has gone too far.

ForceOfNature
09-16-2008, 10:46 PM
George Washington.

(.... But I'd rather pick MLK... is that cool?)
You know, I was thinking about this... I think I am going to allow him. But remember - it's his POLITICAL impact that counts, not his social impact so pick at your own risk.

Hot sizzle's still on the clock.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - Adolf Hitler

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty - Saddam Hussein
2) wTFaMonkey - Vladimir Lenin
3) Doomsday Dallas - Martin Luther King, Jr.
4) hotsizzle - On the clock, time expires at 6:54 am EST
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

vapid
09-16-2008, 10:57 PM
Wasn't nexus going to do his opinions on the first two rounds?

ForceOfNature
09-16-2008, 11:12 PM
Any of you guys who pick after me (in the 3rd round) going to be online in the next few hours? Because if so, I'll just pm my pick(s) to one of you. Thanks.

vapid
09-16-2008, 11:27 PM
Any of you guys who pick after me (in the 3rd round) going to be online in the next few hours? Because if so, I'll just pm my pick(s) to one of you. Thanks.
I'll be around but I bet you I won't pick who you pick(he's chinese and really ancient)... so if you trust me pm it to me.

hotsizzle
09-16-2008, 11:30 PM
I choose COnstantine the Great. More info about him later.

You can PM me your pick force

vapid
09-16-2008, 11:40 PM
I pick: 諸葛亮 , or Zhuge Liang
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7c/DWZhugeLiang.jpg/200px-DWZhugeLiang.jpg
[QUOTE]Zhuge Liang (181

ForceOfNature
09-16-2008, 11:40 PM
Alright I'll pm my pick to both vapid and hotsizzle. Lebron23 is on the clock.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - Adolf Hitler

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty - Saddam Hussein
2) wTFaMonkey - Vladimir Lenin
3) Doomsday Dallas - Martin Luther King, Jr.
4) hotsizzle - Constantine the Great
5) vapid - Zhuge Liang
6) Lebron23 - On the clock, time expires at 9:40 am EST
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

sawyersauce
09-17-2008, 12:29 AM
Lenin? Lenin was a key member of the revolution but after that he got exiled to Siberia and then killed with an ice pick.
How is that political power?

That was trotsky. Lenin died of natural causes.
The worst pick so far has been Leonidas. Sure, he was a great military strategist, but so were all Spartan Kings. His name is only recognised because Frank Miller made a movie about Thermopylae. Not to mention, when the spartans (+ their Helot conscripts and 700 Thespians) made their last stand he was one of the first to die. Most of the casualties were not dished out under his command. And, of course, recieving Power through heritage rather than work and ambition doesnt say much in a 'political powers' draft. If you wanted someone from the Persian Wars, Themistocles, or the later Pericles, would have been better picks.

Doomsday Dallas
09-17-2008, 12:33 AM
You know, I was thinking about this... I think I am going to allow him. But remember - it's his POLITICAL impact that counts, not his social impact so pick at your own risk.


I'll give you my 4th, 6th, & 8th round pick, for Abe Lincoln and your 9th & 10th round pick.

XxNeXuSxX
09-17-2008, 12:45 AM
Wasn't nexus going to do his opinions on the first two rounds?
My apologies, I've had what comes down to as, minimal time. I'll have to do it after three.

vapid
09-17-2008, 01:04 AM
My apologies, I've had what comes down to as, minimal time. I'll have to do it after three.
Unacceptable.

intrinsic
09-17-2008, 01:17 AM
There are some interesting combinations to this point, such as Dirtbag's pairing of an expansive conqueror like Alexander with Nelson Mandela. Doomsday's selections are interesting to see how it ends up.

It is also clear there is one poster who is struggling more than any other whether that be a lack of education/information or plain ignorance.

Doomsday Dallas
09-17-2008, 01:32 AM
There are some interesting combinations to this point, such as Dirtbag's pairing of an expansive conqueror like Alexander with Nelson Mandela. Doomsday's selections are interesting to see how it ends up.

It is also clear there is one poster who is struggling more than any other whether that be a lack of education/information or plain ignorance.

The only power my team has is in their words. Sadly enough, my team would be the first to die if they had to battle some of the other people mentioned above.

But... My team was concidered so dangerous to others opposing teams,... that they had to be either asassinated or publically criticized by the Mass Media.

So with that said... I'll be looking to draft Bobby Kennedy in the later rounds. I need a good back-up QB.

Ron Paul is my WR, and MLK is my RB...

I'll get some good Military LBs, and Linemen later on... Military Generals that know how to defend when it's nessasary.

Lebron23
09-17-2008, 01:41 AM
LeBron23 selects George Washington, first President of the United States of America, and one of the greatest War General in History.

brantonli
09-17-2008, 01:43 AM
To be honest, surprised nobody picked Churchill, but I guess it was to be expected.

vapid
09-17-2008, 01:46 AM
The only power my team has is in their words. Sadly enough, my team would be the first to die if they had to battle some of the other people mentioned above.

But... My team was concidered so dangerous to others opposing teams,... that they had to be either asassinated or publically criticized by the Mass Media.

So with that said... I'll be looking to draft Bobby Kennedy in the later rounds. I need a good back-up QB.

Ron Paul is my WR, and MLK is my RB...

I'll get some good Military LBs, and Linemen later on... Military Generals that know how to defend when it's nessasary.
OH NO!:eek:

Doomsday Dallas
09-17-2008, 02:05 AM
OH NO!:eek:

Like A Clown... Like he was there to ammuse us... It's like people think he was funny like a clown... like the way he tells a story. Do you think he's funny like clown?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3sjneEsI3M


http://acmwallet.com/graphics/RonPaul500px.jpg



Kiss our last hope Goodbye.

vapid
09-17-2008, 02:19 AM
I never got a pm from ForceofNature, but its his turn.

hotsizzle
09-17-2008, 02:22 AM
Ok, Force selects King Louis XIV (Louis the Great) of France

Dirtbag on the clock



Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - Adolf Hitler

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty - Saddam Hussein
2) wTFaMonkey - Vladimir Lenin
3) Doomsday Dallas - Martin Luther King, Jr.
4) hotsizzle - Constantine the Great
5) vapid - Zhuge Liang
6) Lebron23 - George Washington
7) ForceOfNature - King Louis XIV (Louis the Great) of France
8) DirtBag - On the clock, expires at 11:41 am EST
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

DirtBag
09-17-2008, 03:41 AM
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb257/sexy_momma25/93007208-L.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t204/tequila_mala/thomjeff1.jpg


Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743

High Potential
09-17-2008, 03:43 AM
That was trotsky. Lenin died of natural causes.
The worst pick so far has been Leonidas. Sure, he was a great military strategist, but so were all Spartan Kings. His name is only recognised because Frank Miller made a movie about Thermopylae. Not to mention, when the spartans (+ their Helot conscripts and 700 Thespians) made their last stand he was one of the first to die. Most of the casualties were not dished out under his command. And, of course, recieving Power through heritage rather than work and ambition doesnt say much in a 'political powers' draft. If you wanted someone from the Persian Wars, Themistocles, or the later Pericles, would have been better picks.
Actually he was one of the last 5.

Leonidas is underrated like no other on this board. He was a GENIUS strategist, and had a huge impact on Western society as we know it today.

High Potential
09-17-2008, 03:50 AM
I take Hannibal Barca with my 3rd pick, the provide my regime with tactical and strategic superiority over all others

Hannibal (Pronounced in Phoenician: Hanniba'al, means: "Ba'al is my grace" or "Ba'al has given me grace"; 247 BC – ca. 183 BC),[3][4][5][6][7] son of Hamilcar Barca, was a Carthaginian military commander and tactician, later also working in other professions, who is popularly credited as one of the most talented commanders in history. He lived during a period of tension in the Mediterranean, when Rome (then the Roman Republic) established its supremacy over other great powers such as Carthage, and the Hellenistic Kingdoms of Macedon, Syracuse, and the Seleucid empire. His most famous achievement was at the outbreak of the Second Punic War, when he marched an army, which included war elephants, from Iberia over the Pyrenees and the Alps into northern Italy.

During his invasion of Italy, he defeated the Romans in a series of battles, including those at Trebia, Trasimene and Cannae. He won over several Roman allies and maintained an army in Italy for more than a decade afterwards, never personally losing on the battlefield, but losing in decisive sieges and lifting the siege of Capua. Despite his success against the Roman confederation, he could not force the Romans to accept his terms for peace. A Roman counter-invasion of North Africa forced him to return to Carthage, where he was defeated by Scipio Africanus at the Battle of Zama.

After the war he successfully ran for the office of shofet. He enacted political and financial reforms to enable the payment of the war indemnity imposed by Rome. However, Hannibal's reforms were unpopular with members of the Carthaginian aristocracy and Rome, and he fled into voluntary exile. During his exile, he lived at the Seleucid court, where he acted as military advisor to Antiochus III in his war against Rome. After Antiochus met defeat and was forced to accept Rome's terms, Hannibal fled again, making a stop in Armenia, where he worked as a planner for the new capital. His flight ended in the court of Bithynia where he achieved an outstanding naval victory against a fleet from Pergamum. He was afterwards betrayed to the Romans.

Hannibal would later be considered as one of the greatest generals of antiquity, together with Alexander the Great, Scipio and Pyrrhus of Epirus. Plutarch gives that when questioned by Scipio as to who was the greatest general, Hannibal is said to have replied either Alexander, Pyrrhus, then himself,[8] or, according to another version of the event, Pyrrhus, Scipio, then himself.[9] Military historian Theodore Ayrault Dodge once famously called Hannibal the "father of strategy",[10] because his greatest enemy, Rome, came to adopt elements of his military tactics in its own strategic arsenal. This praise has earned him a strong reputation in the modern world and he was regarded as a "gifted strategist" by men like Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington. His life has been the basis for a number of films and documentaries.
http://www.carpenoctem.tv/img/hannibal.jpg
GOAT general

hotsizzle
09-17-2008, 03:51 AM
You're up High Potential

High Potential
09-17-2008, 03:57 AM
Guy should have gone in first round

sawyersauce
09-17-2008, 04:00 AM
Actually he was one of the last 5.

Leonidas is underrated like no other on this board. He was a GENIUS strategist, and had a huge impact on Western society as we know it today.

No he wasnt. When the spartans made there final push they were trying to reclaim his body, he was already dead. Its a very well documented historical battle. Do some research.
Throwing words like genius around isn't proof or decent argument. He was a Spartan King and hence very well trained in both stategy and actual combat, but that training was limited to Hoplite warfare, he had no concept of naval warfare.
Spartans also relied on Helot slavery for their economy, it casued their eventual downfall. I doubt he would have much ability when it came to managing an economy or politics for that matter. As i said earlier, he gained power through heritage, not election.
Thermopylae wasn't even the turning point of the war, Salamis and Plataea were. He did well to avoid a total disaster at thermopylae and it was a heroic sacrafice, although Spartan law forbid their men from retreating in battle.
But there were better picks in the first round.

JtotheIzzo
09-17-2008, 04:36 AM
XxNeXuSxX

yer up

High Potential
09-17-2008, 06:58 AM
No he wasnt. When the spartans made there final push they were trying to reclaim his body, he was already dead. Its a very well documented historical battle. Do some research.
Throwing words like genius around isn't proof or decent argument. He was a Spartan King and hence very well trained in both stategy and actual combat, but that training was limited to Hoplite warfare, he had no concept of naval warfare.
Spartans also relied on Helot slavery for their economy, it casued their eventual downfall. I doubt he would have much ability when it came to managing an economy or politics for that matter. As i said earlier, he gained power through heritage, not election.
Thermopylae wasn't even the turning point of the war, Salamis and Plataea were. He did well to avoid a total disaster at thermopylae and it was a heroic sacrafice, although Spartan law forbid their men from retreating in battle.
But there were better picks in the first round.
Leonidas ferocity and ability to motivate his troops and people is why he is worth the pick. Only a few guys in history could stir up the populous like Leonidas did. William Wallace comes to mind. Also I got a steal in the third, Hannibal is the GOAT general.

sawyersauce
09-17-2008, 07:29 AM
Leonidas ferocity and ability to motivate his troops and people is why he is worth the pick. Only a few guys in history could stir up the populous like Leonidas did. William Wallace comes to mind. Also I got a steal in the third, Hannibal is the GOAT general.

Saying "he's a genius, hes ferocious" doesnt proove anything. Bring some facts and examples to your argument.
Where the hell did you hear that Leonidas was a great motivator? On the movie? cos thats a great historical source :oldlol:
Leonidas was never acclaimed as an orator. Tiberius Grachus, Cicero, Julius Caesar, Pericles, Winston Churchill, MLK, JFK, Lenin are all in another league compared to him, when it comes to motivating.
And you still havent adressed his defficencies when it comes to the economy or actual politics.
I will agree with you that Hannibal is a decent pick for the third round. In fact, he's a better pick than Leonidas.

High Potential
09-17-2008, 07:31 AM
Saying "he's a genius, hes ferocious" doesnt proove anything. Bring some facts and examples to your argument.
Where the hell did you hear that Leonidas was a great motivator? On the movie? cos thats a great historical source :oldlol:
Leonidas was never acclaimed as an orator. Tiberius Grachus, Cicero, Julius Caesar, Pericles, Winston Churchill, MLK, JFK, Lenin are all in another league compared to him, when it comes to motivating.
And you still havent adressed his defficencies when it comes to the economy or actual politics.
I will agree with you that Hannibal is a decent pick for the third round. In fact, he's a better pick than Leonidas.
Leonidas got his 300 Spartans to follow him and fight to the very last man against 250,000 Persians. That's all the proof you need that he was a great motivator.

sawyersauce
09-17-2008, 07:47 AM
Leonidas got his 300 Spartans to follow him and fight to the very last man against 250,000 Persians. That's all the proof you need that he was a great motivator.

Wrong, the Hellenic League did. You do realise the Persian War was a unified Greece vs Persia, not just Sparta vs Persia? Leonidas was SENT with a force of 10,000 greek auxilary troops and his 300 hoplites by the league.
So no, he didn't motivate them to follow him.

And of course at the time there was hope they could actually win, the aim was just to hold back the Persians at the pass until winter. It wasn't that they followed there leader to certain doom.

When they got flanked, the reason the Spartans stayed behind... was not Leonidas and his mythical oratory skills... It was because its illegal to retreat in Sparta. Its Law. If you retreat you loose your citizenship.
So no he didnt motivate them to fight to the death.

try again.

High Potential
09-17-2008, 08:12 AM
Wrong, the Hellenic League did. You do realise the Persian War was a unified Greece vs Persia, not just Sparta vs Persia? Leonidas was SENT with a force of 10,000 greek auxilary troops and his 300 hoplites by the league.
So no, he didn't motivate them to follow him.

And of course at the time there was hope they could actually win, the aim was just to hold back the Persians at the pass until winter. It wasn't that they followed there leader to certain doom.

When they got flanked, the reason the Spartans stayed behind... was not Leonidas and his mythical oratory skills... It was because its illegal to retreat in Sparta. Its Law. If you retreat you loose your citizenship.
So no he didnt motivate them to fight to the death.

try again.
Were you there? no. Exactly.

Also you say Leonidas was sent with an escort of 10,000 other Greeks in addition to his 300 Spartans?

Units Numbers (Herodotus) Numbers (Diodorus Siculus)
Spartans 300 300
Lacedaemonians - 1,000
Mantineans 500 3,000
(the rest of the Greeks sent with Leonidas)
Tegeans 500
Arcadian Orchomenos 120
Other Arcadians 1,000
Corinthians 400
Phlians 200
Mycenaeans 80
Total Peloponnesians 3,100 4,000 (4,300)
Thespians 700 -
Melians - 1,000
Thebans 400 400
Phocians 1,000 1,000
Opuntian Locrians "All they had" -
Grand Total More than 5,200 by the number of Opuntian Locrians 6,400 (6,700)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae

Xerxes remained incredulous, finding it unbelievable for such a small army to contend with his own. Plutarch informs that he then sent emissaries to the Greek forces. At first, he asked Leonidas to join him by offering the kingship of all Greece. Leonidas answered: "If you had any knowledge of the noble things of life, you would refrain from coveting others' possessions; but for me to die for Greece is better than to be the sole ruler over the people of my race."[32] Then Xerxes asked him more forcefully to surrender their arms. To this Leonidas gave his noted answer: Μολὼν Λαβέ, "Come and get them".[33]

Despite their extremely disproportionate numbers, Greek morale was high. Herodotus writes that when Dienekes, a Spartan soldier, was informed that Persian arrows would be so numerous as "to block out the sun", he responded with a characteristically laconic remark, "we shall fight in the shade."[34]
First of all, Nationalism like Leonidas' is especially hard to find. His attitude obviously transferred to his troops. That's Leonidas doing.

sawyersauce
09-17-2008, 08:30 AM
Were you there? no. Exactly.


Neither were u. We can't kno if it was Leonidas motivating them or because they were upholding spartan law and tradition.
But there is still no concrete evidence that Leonidas was a great orator, this would lean the argument in favour of them upholding law and tradition.
You're claim of him being a great motivator is still unfounded.
Find me some real proof and ill sway.


First of all, Nationalism like Leonidas' is especially hard to find. His attitude obviously transferred to his troops. That's Leonidas doing.

The Athenians were offered a peace treaty twice by Mardonius. If they would pull out of the fight their city would be spared. They refused and Athens was sacked. They chose the united Greek cause over their own. Nationalism's not so hard to find.

And well done, you actually did some research and i'll give you the numbers... he went with 5-6 thousand auxilary troops... What does that change?

You still havent adressed his inability to command troops in any other manner other than hoplite warfare. Or his lack of experience running an economy, or any experience navigating a political landscape...

High Potential
09-17-2008, 08:36 AM
Neither were u. We can't kno if it was Leonidas motivating them or because they were upholding spartan law and tradition.
But there is still no concrete evidence that Leonidas was a great orator, this would lean the argument in favour of them upholding law and tradition.
You're claim of him being a great motivator is still unfounded.
Find me some real proof and ill sway.



The Athenians were offered a peace treaty twice by Mardonius. If they would pull out of the fight their city would be spared. They refused and Athens was sacked. They chose the united Greek cause over their own. Nationalism's not so hard to find.

And well done, you actually did some research and i'll give you the numbers... he went with 5-6 thousand auxilary troops... What does that change?

You still havent adressed his inability to command troops in any other manner other than hoplite warfare. Or his lack of experience running an economy, or any experience navigating a political landscape...
Kings have advisors. For example, Leonidas might only be skilled in hoplite warfare, but that's why I have Hannibal. I don't think there could be a better minister of defense than he. Leonidas is an amazing figurehead. The people will be proud to have him as their king. Also, 10,000 and 5,000 is a very big difference, especially when you take into account that most of those 5,000 retreated on the last day. Leonidas was an idealist, and an idealist of the best kind, one who would die for his beliefs.

sawyersauce
09-17-2008, 08:49 AM
Kings have advisors. For example, Leonidas might only be skilled in hoplite warfare, but that's why I have Hannibal. I don't think there could be a better minister of defense than he. Leonidas is an amazing figurehead. The people will be proud to have him as their king. Also, 10,000 and 5,000 is a very big difference, especially when you take into account that most of those 5,000 retreated on the last day. Leonidas was an idealist, and an idealist of the best kind, one who would die for his beliefs.

Leonidas as a figure head... hmmm
That could work, and i don't doubt Hannibals ability and versatility. Though i don't see why you didn't take someone equally as passionate as Leonidas but with more all around experience. Julius Caesar, for example, is credited as the second best orator in the old Roman republic after Cicero. He also managed to maintain control in Rome even when he was in Gaul by taking advantage of the tribunate position. He won 4 major military campaigns, one lasting 10 years in Gaul, one in North Africa, one in Egypt and most famously defeating Romes own Pompey. And was elected dictator (wierd that its an electable position) for life. Thats a hell of a lot more credentials in a hell of a lot more areas than Leonidas, who is best known for a single battle.
Been fun arguing, haven't thought about this stuff since ancient history in high school.

ForceOfNature
09-17-2008, 09:06 AM
Nexus on the clock.


Round 1

1) LakersDynasty - Joseph Stalin
2) wTFaMonkey - Qin Shi Huang
3) Doomsday Dallas - John F. Kennedy
4) hotsizzle - Napoleon Bonaparte
5) vapid - Caesar Augustus
6) Lebron23 - Emperor Charlemagne
7) ForceOfNature - Genghis Khan
8) DirtBag - Alexander the Great
9) High Potential - King Leonidas I
10) XxNeXusxX - Ivan the Terrible
11) JtotheIzzo - Mahatma Gandhi
12) Dasher - Atilla the Hun

Round 2

1) Dasher - Maximilien Robespierre
2) JtotheIzzo - Dr. Sun Yat Sen
3) XxNeXusxX - Julius Caesar
4) High Potential - Fidel Castro
5) DirtBag - Nelson Mandela
6) wTFaMonkey - Benjamin Franklin
7) ForceOfNature - Abraham Lincoln
8) Lebron23 - Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
9) vapid - Franklin D. Roosevelt
10) hotsizzle - Frederick II of Prussia
11) Doomsday Dallas - Ron Paul
12) LakersDynasty - Adolf Hitler

Round 3

1) LakersDynasty - Saddam Hussein
2) wTFaMonkey - Vladimir Lenin
3) Doomsday Dallas - Martin Luther King, Jr.
4) hotsizzle - Constantine the Great
5) vapid - Zhuge Liang
6) Lebron23 - George Washington
7) ForceOfNature - King Louis XIV (Louis the Great)
8) DirtBag - Thomas Jefferson
9) High Potential - Hannibal Barca
10) XxNeXusxX - On the clock, time expires at 1:50 pm EST
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 4

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 5

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 6

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 7

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 8

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

Round 9

1) LakersDynasty -
2) wTFaMonkey -
3) Doomsday Dallas -
4) hotsizzle -
5) vapid -
6) Lebron23 -
7) ForceOfNature -
8) DirtBag -
9) High Potential -
10) XxNeXusxX -
11) JtotheIzzo -
12) Dasher -

Round 10

1) Dasher -
2) JtotheIzzo -
3) XxNeXusxX -
4) High Potential -
5) DirtBag -
6) ForceOfNature -
7) Lebron23 -
8) vapid -
9) hotsizzle -
10) Doomsday Dallas -
11) wTFaMonkey -
12) LakersDynasty -

ForceOfNature
09-17-2008, 09:08 AM
Another thing - to people not in this league and even to the league participants - please don't give out names of potential prospects. You may give a slight hint or something, but don't mention their name! This is still a competitive league.

XxNeXuSxX
09-17-2008, 11:06 AM
Hernan Cortez-The Greatest Conqueror ever(behind Ghengis).

Who else could take a handful of Conquistadors and Conquer such a powerful society such as the Aztecs?
[QUOTE]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Cortes.jpg/180px-Cortes.jpg

Hern

High Potential
09-17-2008, 11:12 AM
Hernan Cortez-The Greatest Conqueror ever(behind Ghengis).

Who else could take a handful of Conquistadors and Conquer such a powerful society such as the Aztecs?
Overrated conqueror. It wasn't Cortez doing most of the conquering, smallpox did most of the dirty work.

Unbelievable that he went before the likes of BLANK and BLANK

XxNeXuSxX
09-17-2008, 11:37 AM
Overrated conqueror. It wasn't Cortez doing most of the conquering, smallpox did most of the dirty work.

Unbelievable that he went before the likes of William I of England, or Thutmose II.
Coming from a guy that picked a ruler of a miniscule country that has no political power abroad... in the second round.

By the way, you don't know what you're talking about. Smallpox did the dirty work? Bullsh*t. He conquered cities with 300,000+ people in it with 600 conquistadors.

Blank? :roll: Hernan Cortez is still better than 90% of the people picked. Plus you're not supposed to mention people not picked, see two posts above you. Better edit it now.

High Potential
09-17-2008, 11:46 AM
Coming from a guy that picked a ruler of a miniscule country that has no political power abroad... in the second round.

By the way, you don't know what you're talking about. Smallpox did the dirty work? Bullsh*t. He conquered cities with 300,000+ people in it with 600 conquistadors.

I am gay :roll: Hernan Cortez is still better than 90% of the people picked. Plus you're not supposed to mention people not picked, see two posts above you. Better edit it now.
Hernan's tactics would only work on the Aztecs, because he was basically their perfect counter.The year Cortez landed was also the year the Aztec prophecies predicted that their god would come down with furry faces and riding strange beasts. In comes Cortez, a dude with a beard and riding an animal never before seen by the Aztecs, so the Aztecs took him in as a god. Hernan exploited this to kidnap Montezuma and get a room full of gold for ransom. Also, the Aztecs were scared of gun shots. Hernan Cortez would not be able to conquer any other civilization in the world than the Aztecs. It's a complete fluke that they met up.

High Potential
09-17-2008, 11:47 AM
Coming from a guy that picked a ruler of a miniscule country that has no political power abroad... in the second round.

By the way, you don't know what you're talking about. Smallpox did the dirty work? Bullsh*t. He conquered cities with 300,000+ people in it with 600 conquistadors.
I'm a fruitcup :roll: Hernan Cortez is still better than 90% of the people picked. Plus you're not supposed to mention people not picked, see two posts above you. Better edit it now.
Ever heard of the Cuban missile crisis? The closes thing it's ever been to the end of the world?:rolleyes: