UFC 100 - Official Thread

[ErhnamDjinn]

So whose watching the event on TV or Live this Saturday

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/f/ff/20090515002035%21UFC100lesnarmir.jpg

what are your predictions

Main Card

Lesnar vs. Mir (Rematch/ Plus Unification bout)
GSP vs. Thiago Alves ( Welterweight Title)
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro "Sexyama" Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher

Undercard

Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar
Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller
Jon Jones vs. Jake O

[hateraid]

[QUOTE=ErhnamDjinn]

what are your predictions

Main Card

Lesnar vs. Mir (Rematch/ Plus Unification bout)- submission
GSP vs. Thiago Alves ( Welterweight Title)- Uni Decision
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping- TKO
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago- TKO
Yoshihiro "Sexyama" Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher- Decision

Undercard

Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar- KO round 2 LOCK
Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller- Decision
Jon Jones vs. Jake O

[Too_Cool]

An "official" thread was already made, shame no one sees to care about it and you couldn' see it...

And what you mean u get it free? If Dana found out about this he'd **** a brick the size or ur relatively unknown country.

[ErhnamDjinn]

An "official" thread was already made, shame no one sees to care about it and you couldn' see it...

And what you mean u get it free? If Dana found out about this he'd **** a brick the size or ur relatively unknown country.
not exactly free but in the Philippines we get it on cable without a PPV fee, you mean the Philippines were Dana White said he plans on doing a show:cheers: btw I didnt see the other thread until someone bumped it.

[phoenix18]

I dont really pay for anything on PPV so, let me know how things turn out.

[ErhnamDjinn]

One more day, plus the debut of Sexyama

http://www.cr3static.com/data/gif/sexplosion.gif

[Smokee]

Even tho Brock will probably win i want Mir to. Brock is a dickhead. I never knew he was so cocky until i saw the preview to this. Hope Mir breaks his arm/leg.

GSP. Alvis might catch him but otherwise i expect GSP to beat him.

Henderson. Bisby is a dickhead too. Watching the Ultimate Fighter he was the biggest ass, and sore loser. Henderson came across as half retarded but an extremely nice person.

I don't follow UFC enough to know the rest of them :confusedshrug:

[B-Low]

One more day, plus the debut of Sexyama

http://www.cr3static.com/data/gif/sexplosion.gif

is he an actual fighter?

[ErhnamDjinn]

Yup decorated Judo guy, up and coming superstar from Japan, Half-korean half Japanese pure sexiness.. join the $exwagon

http://www.mookas.com/webzine_img0/con_img/news_image/nikecsh.jpg

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f44/yoshihiro-sexyama-battlestation-sexwagon-812475/

[hateraid]

Yup decorated Judo guy, up and coming superstar from Japan, Half-korean half Japanese pure sexiness.. join the $exwagon

http://www.mookas.com/webzine_img0/con_img/news_image/nikecsh.jpg

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f44/yoshihiro-sexyama-battlestation-sexwagon-812475/


I'm definately a huge fan. Hopefully he'll continue to do what Parisyan couldn't finish. Bringing a name for Judoka. May not have the tossing ability of Karo but Sexy is definately a finisher.

[Kobe4life]

I'm definately a huge fan. Hopefully he'll continue to do what Parisyan couldn't finish. Bringing a name for Judoka. May not have the tossing ability of Karo but Sexy is definately a finisher.


hes full korean but lives in japan

[Smokee]

Yup decorated Judo guy, up and coming superstar from Japan, Half-korean half Japanese pure sexiness.. join the $exwagon

http://www.mookas.com/webzine_img0/con_img/news_image/nikecsh.jpg

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f44/yoshihiro-sexyama-battlestation-sexwagon-812475/


he reminds me of an azn tito ortiz. I don't like the gook already :confusedshrug:

[PistolPete]

Frank Mir looks in awesome shape

http://cyberaxis.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/frank-mir.jpg

[Jackass18]

he reminds me of an azn tito ortiz. I don't like the gook already :confusedshrug:

You're just afraid of his sexyness.

[ErhnamDjinn]

You're just afraid of his sexyness.
exactly to much man to handle hehe, lolz at the weigh in's no one knew who he was glad Joe rogan called him Sexyama lolz. Damn Mir, Alves looked ripped.

[Skywalker]

Main Card

Lesnar vs. Mir (Rematch/ Plus Unification bout)
GSP vs. Thiago Alves ( Welterweight Title)
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro "Sexyama" Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher

[Zombles]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k128/Zombles/gif01.gif
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k128/Zombles/1016.jpg
hope this cat wins.

Otherwise-

Lesnar by TKO. Mir's standup looked good against a deathly ill Big Nog but Lesnar has shown more consistency outstriking Randy, Herring, and Mir. If it goes to the ground before a TKO is imminent Mir will get the sub but Brock is smart enough to avoid the same mistake.

GSP by TKO. Alves doesn't have much of an advantage standing, he's a significantly worse boxer than GSP but has better kicks/knees and more power, and he can't stop the TD.

Bisping by decision. A repeat of the second Misaki fight and the standing portions of the Franklin fight, Dan will get picked apart by a more sophisticated striker with superior movement and he'll forget he's a wrestler.

Fitch by whatever he wants.

The sexy one by aesthetic perfection.

[Vybe]

Hopefully they'll show the Jonny Bones fight.

[t-rud349]

link???

[jc23]

link???
yea anyone?

I hope Bisping gets killed by Hendo he's overrated and a whiny *****.

[UK-NJ]

www.atdhe.net :cheers:

[t-rud349]

www.atdhe.net :cheers:

Thanks bro :cheers:

[UK-NJ]

I'm not an avid UFC fan, but what the **** @ Akiyama's entrance music? Never imagined a UFC fighter having Andrea Bocelli 'Time To Say Goodbye' as their music. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Jackass18]

The canvas looks pretty bloody.

[BEDSTUY 718]

anyone got a better link?

[KINGofTHEcourt]

So what has happened so far??

[hayden695]

Sexyama looks funny fighting Belcher since Belcher looks so much bigger

[rezznor]

none of the links are working for me :mad:

[BEDSTUY 718]

the video makes me refresh every 40 seconds

[KINGofTHEcourt]

mine just won't load it stays at that loading circle thing :banghead:

[Jackass18]

The 3rd will determine the winner. Both guys looked tired.

[Jackass18]

Sexyama has to win this. Fought the 3rd round with basically one eye and was more effective.

Akiyama via split.

[Skywalker]

can you say fixed

[rezznor]

woot! sexyama!

[Jackass18]

How did Belcher win the 2nd when he spent most of it on his back?

[Skywalker]

can't believe that in the back of my head I could picture some higher ups making sure akiyama won though

[jc23]

If that's not the worst decision ever, then it's the worst I've seen.

[Skywalker]

w/e on to the next fight

[Smokee]

Belcher got robbed

[Jackass18]

Can anyone explain why they thought Belcher won? The 1st could go either way, he spent most of the 2nd on his back and got outstruck in the third and he went down twice.

War Hendo. KO that British douchebag.

[hayden695]

im rooting hard for that british dick to be killed tonight. :cheers:
Same but i want him to get phucked up a bit before he gets knocked out

[jc23]

im rooting hard for that british dick to be killed tonight. :cheers:

:cheers:

[Chick_Hearn]

Can someone fetch me a link, i can't get a good stream going from my casket.

[UK-NJ]

Apart from the ATDHE links, I've only got this one: http://uk.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=misc.ComPlayeruk

But seeing as I'm from the UK, I doubt any of you guys can use that unless you get a Brit proxy.

[Skywalker]

good fight so far Bisping lookin good actually hopefully Hendo can land one of those rocket right hands

[jc23]

wow i'm glad hendo looks to be in shape because bisping might be winded already. can't see bisping doing much damage with those punches they look weak and hendo has a chin.

[Manute for Ever!]

If you're in Singapore, it is showing at RooBar (behind Muddy Murphys) at midday.

[hayden695]

Booooooooommm

[Jackass18]

****ing beautiful.

[jc23]

holly **** what a punch.

[Skywalker]

Lmao!!!!! Lmao!!!

[The GM]

omg dan henderson

[teleport]

Oh my lord, what a KNOCKOUT

[Skywalker]

bisping is dead LMAO!

[UK-NJ]

Man, that was ruthless. :wtf:

[t-rud349]

Oh Damn. That was mean

[hayden695]

OMG that elbow when he was on the ground was DEADLY.

And lol at Dans post fight interview

[DeuceWallaces]

That second punch was ruthless.

[Jackass18]

One of the most beautifulest things I've seen in MMA. That was so ruthless that I almost feel sorry for Bisping.

[Smokee]

That was incredible, especially that last forearm when he was already out. I can't stand bisping. Dan Hendersons's a beast :pimp:

[Smokee]

please tell us why you think he got robbed. because hes american and he was fighting a japanese guy? were you one of those people yelling "USA USA" in the background without knowing who the fighters were and what they brought to the table?

do you root for teams because they wear your favorite color; pink?


Because Belcher was clearly the aggressor and less affected fighter throughout an otherwise even fight. Akyama barely made it through the 2nd, let alone the 3rd. The gook is flashy but not as effective as he looks.

[jc23]

GSP has this. Man Alves looks big, but GSP is just to technical for him.

[hayden695]

GSP has this. Man Alves looks big, but GSP is just to technical for him.
Thats what im hoping

Avy bet for this fight anyone? i got GSP:D

[rezznor]

Because Belcher was clearly the aggressor and less affected fighter throughout an otherwise even fight. Akyama barely made it through the 2nd, let alone the 3rd. The gook is flashy but not as effective as he looks.
what the *** is this ****? someone mad that the white guy didnt win?

[Jackass18]

That's a pretty big reach advantage.

[hayden695]

Nobody down for a bet? okay

[jc23]

Nobody down for a bet? okay

I just don't think anyone wants to take Alves :lol

[hayden695]

I just don't think anyone wants to take Alves :lol
i saw guys earlier picking alves i thought

[jc23]

That take down attempt was weak and still got it, this is bad for Alves.

[Jackass18]

That cut could be a problem for Alves.

[hayden695]

190!!11!!one

[jc23]

Alves is loosing so hopefully he gets happy with those punches so George can take him down.

[Interminator]

Any1 have a link?

[hayden695]

Any1 have a link?
look at older posts some links have been posted

[Jackass18]

Desperation mode for Alves now.

[halffttime]

aaaaaaw gosh... they took down genciba's link!!! halp!!

[IlliniFan]

GSP - "I pulled my groin"

Trainer - "I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

:lol

[UK-NJ]

Just curious... Does this link work for you guys?

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=misc.ComPlayer


GSP - "I pulled my groin"

Trainer - "I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

:lol

Yeah, I love that guy. :oldlol:

[Interminator]

**** the Justin TV went down.

Is it still Tiago/GSP?

[rezznor]

its gotta be demoralizing for to be taken down at will whenever GSP feels like it

[hayden695]

GSP - "I pulled my groin"

Trainer - "I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

:lol
i heard that i lol'd

[halffttime]

Just curious... Does this link work for you guys?

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=misc.ComPlayer

lol no? i doubt they would show it free on the ufc website..

this one works, decent quality..

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ufc-100-streamsdirect-info

[UK-NJ]

lol no? i doubt they would show it free on the ufc website..

this one works, decent quality..

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ufc-100-streamsdirect-info
I'm watching it free on the UFC website in the UK. :rockon:

[BEDSTUY 718]

Wow the best stream got taken down from justin tv cause of rights

[Jackass18]

5-0 for GSP.

[RandomBalla55]

It's free on UFC.com if you're in the UK.

GSP is too stifling for everyone at WW. Thiago Alves is a ****ing baller and a beast, and probably the #2 WW, but you just can't beat GSP.

[ILballa]

lol no? i doubt they would show it free on the ufc website..

this one works, decent quality..

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ufc-100-streamsdirect-info
it stopped working

[Smokee]

GSP's most well rounded fighter in MMA. Even tho he'd probably get crushed i'd like to see him fight Silva.

[UK-NJ]

It's free on UFC.com if you're in the UK.

GSP is too stifling for everyone at WW. Thiago Alves is a ****ing baller and a beast, and probably the #2 WW, but you just can't beat GSP.
Yeah, the only reason I sent that link was because it said "If you are attempting to watch UFC

[KINGofTHEcourt]

links got shut down. I NEED MOAR

[halffttime]

it stopped working

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html

^

great quality, works, no lag.. REP ME :lol

[hayden695]

K ill try this again, anyone want a bet on Lesnar vs. Mir?

[ILballa]

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html

^

great quality, works, no lag.. REP ME :lol
this also stopped working

[IlliniFan]

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html

^

great quality, works, no lag.. REP ME :lol
doesn't work

[halffttime]

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html

^

great quality, works, no lag.. REP ME :lol

wow.. fukcers took it down.. :(

[ILballa]

http://www.justin.tv/tpp_ppv

[BEDSTUY 718]

Every video getting shut down cause of rights i think

[ILballa]

Every video getting shut down cause of rights i think
exactly

[halffttime]

...

[topper]

http://tomtacks.blogspot.com/2009/07/ufc-100-live-stream-online-ufc-100.html

[B-Low]

http://www.justin.tv/tpp_ppv

nice thanks :cheers:

[KINGofTHEcourt]

http://www.justin.tv/tpp_ppv
repped

[B-Low]

Every video getting shut down cause of rights i think

UFC's kickin it into high gear tryin to get all the free streams down before the main event

[rezznor]

hulk hogan is gonna run in and hit Lesnar with a chair

[The_Walrus]

Don't get me wrong GSP is really, really good and very entertaining to watch, but he would get his ass handed to him by Anderson Silva. That guy is not human.

[KINGofTHEcourt]

**** shut down again

[Jackass18]

This fight could go either way. Mir will test his sub defense.

[ILballa]

**** shut down again
http://tomtacks.blogspot.com/2009/07/ufc-100-live-stream-online-ufc-100.html

[halffttime]

http://ufc-hundred.blogspot.com/

^

[ILballa]

UFC's kickin it into high gear tryin to get all the free streams down before the main event
So do they have guys just sitting on the comp looking for streams to shut down?

[KINGofTHEcourt]

lovin brocks song choice, but lets go mir

[jc23]

So do they have guys just sitting on the comp looking for streams to shut down?

Yes they do.

[halffttime]

someone's gonna die tonight.. i can feel it..

[KINGofTHEcourt]

where da links at???

[ILballa]

where da links at???
http://tomtacks.blogspot.com/2009/07/ufc-100-live-stream-online-ufc-100.html

[Interminator]

someone's gonna die tonight.. i can feel it..
:oldlol: :oldlol:

Mir's already bruised.

[Interminator]

Watch Brock **** up again and get caught in a submission.

[Jackass18]

A very bad start for Mir.

[KINGofTHEcourt]

http://tomtacks.blogspot.com/2009/07/ufc-100-live-stream-online-ufc-100.html
good looks son

[halffttime]

i have so much respect for mma fighters..

[ILballa]

good looks son
:cheers:

[Interminator]

**** @ Frank's face already.

Is that his blood all over the mat?

[RandomBalla55]

Dominant first round.

[BEDSTUY 718]

Brock a beast

[Interminator]

Brock wants to get into a strike fest.

[Interminator]

Stand them the **** up.

[jc23]

Mir took a lot of punches and Brock can control him easily if he can keep his chest down like that.

[Interminator]

Brock's got him

[RandomBalla55]

Lesnar!

[ILballa]

It's Over!!!

[Jackass18]

Mir got raped.

[BEDSTUY 718]

yea Brock big mir DOWN

[KINGofTHEcourt]

**** lesnar and his gay tattoos

[Skywalker]

Yes!

Brock Is The ****ing Man Just Hammer That Hoe

[B-Low]

ASS whoopin

[halffttime]

my heart is pounding... :ohwell:

[lakers_forever]

Fedor would destroy Brock.

[IlliniFan]

That was quick. Mir got destroyed.

[gr8_wun]

****in piece of crap... can't stand that **** chestner

[rezznor]

why does brock have a tat of a ***** on his chest?

[Interminator]

Frank's a *****, talked all the **** he wanted and got dominated by Brock.

[lakers_forever]

****in piece of crap... can't stand that **** chestner

I wanted Fedor in the UFC just to beat the crap of that focking piece of ****e.

[Jackass18]

Lesnar is all class.

[Interminator]

Fedor would destroy Brock.
This.

[B-Low]

lol the pro wrestler in Brock comin out :roll:

[Skywalker]

lmaoooo lesnar is the man omg

[ILballa]

why does brock have a tat of a ***** on his chest?
:oldlol:

[KINGofTHEcourt]

lol at Brock ripping the sponsors

"I'm gonna go home and drink a Cooooooors light, cause bud light wont pay me nothin"

[jc23]

I love how Brock flips off the crowd and that interview is priceless.

[Interminator]

Now Frank is humble, take the loss ******* he dominated you.

[ILballa]

I wanted Fedor in the UFC just to beat the crap of that focking piece of ****e.
Why isn't he in UFC?

[RandomBalla55]

:oldlol: :oldlol:

Brock's a *********, but at least he earned the right to be one. That was impressive as ****. He neutralized Frank's jitz and his powerful punches stopped Mir.

[The GM]

Mir got owned, Brock has some serious potential

[IlliniFan]

lol the pro wrestler in Brock comin out :roll:
I know right. :oldlol:

[Skywalker]

lesnarrrrr lmaooooooo LESNAR YEUH sick guy

[rezznor]

love him or hate him, lesnar is good for the ufc.

[halffttime]

one more fight? wasn't this the main event?

[RandomBalla55]

one more fight? wasn't this the main event?

It was, but there was a risk that Lesnar - Mir might've gone 5 rounds, so Fitch - Thiago was the swing bout.

[rezznor]

wait what happened to the mask guy from tap out? he died?

[Interminator]

he wouldnt dominate him that easily though. lesnar is a big guy.
Lesnar is bigger, but Fedor's submission techniques would absolutely tear Brock's limbs.

Once Brock hit the ground, it would be over.

[B-Low]

This dude's married to Sable??

[lakers_forever]

Why isn't he in UFC?

Money and complicated contract issues.

[Interminator]

wait what happened to the mask guy from tap out? he died?
Yeah in a car crash months ago.

[rezznor]

This dude's married to Sable??
yeah he is. the wrestling crowd is like melrose place man, everyone has ****ed each other it seems

[Smokee]

Brock is great at the show part of it. I'll give fake wrestling that skill it teaches at least.

I don't think there was much Mir could do, and Lesnar played everything real safe without leaving stuff loose. Its a shame raw power can overcome skills like that.

[rezznor]

Yeah in a car crash months ago.
o damn didnt know that.

[krazy19]

Brock mad. Brock smash.

[Interminator]

Dana White.
Had to fix that for you, also some of Fedor's techniques are illegal in UFC but legal everywhere else.

[Jackass18]

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/uglymask.jpg
Mir took a beatin'

[rezznor]

Brock is great at the show part of it. I'll give fake wrestling that skill it teaches at least.

I don't think there was much Mir could do, and Lesnar played everything real safe without leaving stuff loose. Its a shame raw power can overcome skills like that.
brock needs his own weight class lol

[Interminator]

I hope Kimbo wins Ultimate Fighter, adding Kimbo on the card will take the UFC to an even higher level.

Kimbo vs Brock would sell a lot of PPV packages, but Brock would massacre Kimbo.

[Skywalker]

Fitchy cmon Fitchy anyone know if Jon Jones won?

[The_Walrus]

Maybe they could throw a tag team at Lesnar, you know, to go along with the whole wrestling theme.

That guy pisses me off :rant

[halffttime]

damn... lesnar VS fedor.. MAKE IT HAPPEN!

[RandomBalla55]

Jon Jones ****ing toyed around with Jake O'Brien and won by D'Arce choke.

[Skywalker]

k good

[Skywalker]

fitch is gonna kill this guy lmao

[Interminator]

Isnt Bobby Lashley trying to join the UFC?

And everyone keep an eye out for Justin Wren.

[ILballa]

damn... lesnar VS fedor.. MAKE IT HAPPEN!
I would like to see that.

[Skywalker]

wtf get ur damn head free lmao

[jc23]

Lesnar is bigger, but Fedor's submission techniques would absolutely tear Brock's limbs.

Once Brock hit the ground, it would be over.

I don't see it. Fedor is amazing, but if Brock gets him on the ground it's over. Brock has learned to control people with his chest, Lesner is just to big. He has every advantage but experience, but that could be the difference. Note Brock just dominated a submission expert.

[Skywalker]

lol people act like that fedor guy has superpowers BROCK IS COMIN BTCH

[Interminator]

I don't see it. Fedor is amazing, but if Brock gets him on the ground it's over. Brock has learned to control people with his chest, Lesner is just to big. He has every advantage but experience, but that could be the difference. Note Brock just dominated a submission expert.
Brock is still prone to screwing up as the fight goes on, Fedor's not going to fight him face up like Herring & Coutore made the mistake of doing.

Brock dominated Mir because he caught Mir into 2 favorable ground positions, in the 1st Round and finished him in the 2nd Round.

Fedor is a more skilled submission expert and could turn one of Brock's sledgehammer punches into an arm lock, Mir couldnt stop the punches unless he could somehow get from under Brock which is impossible because he was laying flat on his stomach rather than being on his back.

[Interminator]

**** I lost the picture.

[rezznor]

**** I lost the picture.
Fitch won

[ILballa]

**** I lost the picture.
Fitch won.

[Interminator]

Not surprising.

Now I can only wait until The Spider destroys Griffin.

[rezznor]

couture in UFC 102? i thought he retired

[RandomBalla55]

That shouldn't be the main event. Griffin vs Silva should be.

Except Griffin vs Silva is on 101.

[kingmob]

Fedor vs Lesner would be a very interesting fight.

I still think Fedor would whoop that ass.

[Jackass18]

Lesnar will have some challengers coming up:

Nog/Couture
Velasquez/Carwin
Cro Cop/Dos Santos

[hayden695]

anyone think Dana White will step in for brock flipping off the crowd? A guy i was with who watches UFC intensely thought so. I wasnt too sure

[Interminator]

anyone think Dana White will step in for brock flipping off the crowd? A guy i was with who watches UFC intensely thought so. I wasnt too sure
No.

I think Dana likes this, it makes Brock "the heel" to quote wrestling terms and generates more interest for someone to stop him.

[hayden695]

No.

I think Dana likes this, it makes Brock "the heel" to quote wrestling terms and generates more interest for someone to stop him.
yah i was with you here but the guy i was with said that Dana doesnt want it to be like wrestling and he wants the fans to like the fighters and thats basically the opposite of brock lesbo

[KINGofTHEcourt]

I was hoping for more out of Mir. Henderson/Bisping was the best fight imo

[Da KO King]

I'm just pissed I missed the Bisping punch. Seemed to be a big deal when it happened.

[hayden695]

Hell no! that Brock's heat is the money, and Dana loves money. Pro wrestling makes a lot of money from heel heats; Ric Flair, NWO, Vince McMahon etc. So, why not MMA?
read the last post on the last page

[emsteez forreal]

Hell no! that Brock's heat is the money, and Dana loves money. Pro wrestling makes a lot of money from heel heats; Ric Flair, NWO, Vince McMahon etc. So, why not MMA?
'cause it's real?

[hayden695]

'cause it's real?
how im starting to think of it, you wouldnt allow that in any other sport thats real

[Da KO King]

'cause it's real?
Real or not, one guy having that big a following is not something that will hurt the sport. The same way that many "purist" who hate Kimbo Slice appreciate the fact he's helping draw interest.

[hayden695]

Real or not, one guy having that big a following is not something that will hurt the sport. The same way that many "purist" who hate Kimbo Slice appreciate the fact he's helping draw interest.
your not seeing our side, sure in wrestling and even in MMA it will bring attention but that isnt acceptable in some peoples eyes and basicaly im asking if you think it is in Dana whites. Oh and i assume if he did anything it would be a small fine. Slap on the wrist basically

[Skywalker]

someone rank the top 5 heavyweights in the world

[Interminator]

'cause it's real?
Yeah but if they are ever going to truly take the next step into competing with WWE they are going to have to allow fighters to sell their characters. Im not saying have fighters create gimmicks, but to allow these guys to show who they are as individuals to a larger audience.

It will become a problem when the matches are pre-arranged to follow a storyline like in the WWE.

[RandomBalla55]

Lesnar will have some challengers coming up:

Nog/Couture
Velasquez/Carwin
Cro Cop/Dos Santos

I think he beats the winner of Nog / Couture. Prime Nog would have a very good shot of beating Brock, but the current day Nog? I fear for his safety now when he walks out there.. just because he takes so much punishment and Brock's phuckin lunchbox hammerfists hurt everyone.

Velazquez / Carwin is interesting and the winner of that one will be a good indicator of how they'd do against Lesnar. Especially if Cain wins.

[Interminator]

your not seeing our side, sure in wrestling and even in MMA it will bring attention but that isnt acceptable in some peoples eyes and basicaly im asking if you think it is in Dana whites. Oh and i assume if he did anything it would be a small fine. Slap on the wrist basically
People are going to jump off the UFC ship when it truly takes off, they have to allow the sport and fighters to evolve and there are going to be people like your friend who are not going to view it as a sport but as entertainment and find something else.

I doubt he fines Brock, Brock flipping the fans off just generated money. All those fans hate him and will watch hoping to see him get beaten unconscious in his next fight.

[hayden695]

Yeah but if they are ever going to truly take the next step into competing with WWE they are going to have to allow fighters to sell their characters. Im not saying have fighters create gimmicks, but to allow these guys to show who they are as individuals to a larger audience.

It will become a problem when the matches are pre-arranged to follow a storyline like in the WWE.
I always figured it was more aimed at smarter people who truely appreciated the fighting not the hero villain bullsh*t.

yes i just called wrestling fans stupid, ya got a problem with that

[jc23]

Brock is still prone to screwing up as the fight goes on, Fedor's not going to fight him face up like Herring & Coutore made the mistake of doing.

Brock dominated Mir because he caught Mir into 2 favorable ground positions, in the 1st Round and finished him in the 2nd Round.

Fedor is a more skilled submission expert and could turn one of Brock's sledgehammer punches into an arm lock, Mir couldnt stop the punches unless he could somehow get from under Brock which is impossible because he was laying flat on his stomach rather than being on his back.

How is he more prone? he's lost once and that fight had nothing with it going into the fight?

Fedor is a lot smaller then Brock taking him down wont be as easy especially with his wrestling (yes, I also know it'd be hard for brock because well it's just fedor...) so if he gets on top of Fedor like he did Mir, he's so strong he will hold you there and hit you and i doubt you'll throw him off you.

In the honest truth he couldn't catch a Brock Lesnar hammer fist if he tried there to fast and his forearm is to strong.

I'm pointing out also you mentioned he wouldn't let brock face up? so are you saying Brock out strikes Fedor? because i would be surprised but if brock works on that right hand it could happen.

[hayden695]

People are going to jump off the UFC ship when it truly takes off, they have to allow the sport and fighters to evolve and there are going to be people like your friend who are not going to view it as a sport but as entertainment and find something else.

I doubt he fines Brock, Brock flipping the fans off just generated money. All those fans hate him and will watch hoping to see him get beaten unconscious in his next fight.
Good way to put it, though i still think he gives him a fine so that the others who thought it was rude and disrespectful to the franchise come back since they see that atleast the UFC will "try" to not let it happen, even if it may just be a smokescreen

[1manfastbreak]

where can i watch these fights online!? i had to work tonight and missed everything.

[fatboy11]

Good way to put it, though i still think he gives him a fine so that the others who thought it was rude and disrespectful to the franchise come back since they see that atleast the UFC will "try" to not let it happen, even if it may just be a smokescreen
Dana has never, and will never, fine a fighter for doing what Brock Lesnar did. This isn't the NBA, man. Like the other guys said, flipping the fans off actually = more money.

[Interminator]

someone rank the top 5 heavyweights in the world
From what I've seen.

1.Fedor
2.Brock
3.Rogers
4.Nog
5.Velasquez


Brett Rogers ****ed himself not going to UFC.

[hayden695]

Dana has never, and will never, fine a fighter for doing what Brock Lesnar did. This isn't the NBA, man. Like the other guys said, flipping the fans off actually = more money.
Im not denying that, im saying he does something so small that it wont even affect brock, but so that the fans who are watching because of the technical aspect who appreciate the fighting and not the showboating, stay with them.

Kind of keep everyone happy at the same time sort of.

[Interminator]

Good way to put it, though i still think he gives him a fine so that the others who thought it was rude and disrespectful to the franchise come back since they see that atleast the UFC will "try" to not let it happen, even if it may just be a smokescreen
He still wont fine him.

I just want to know who Lesnar fights next, the fact there isnt a #1 contender may keep it from happening for awhile.

I dont want to see Brock eat Randy again, Randy please retire and protect your remaining legacy.

[fatboy11]

From what I've seen.

1.Fedor
2.Brock
3.Rogers
4.Nog
5.Velasquez


Brett Rogers ****ed himself not going to UFC.Brett Rogers never had a chance to go to the UFC. And he's not the #3 ranked HW in the world. Not even close. Probably not even top 10. I understand you said "from what you've seen", but I've seen all the top guys fight and he's not there.

I think any HW top 5 has to include Fedor, Brock, Alistair Overeem, Josh Barnett and Couture/Mir/Nog. Cain and Shane Carwin are knocking at the door. Cro Cop could get back there. Antonio Silva is in the mix as well.

[Interminator]

Im not denying that, im saying he does something so small that it wont even affect brock, but so that the fans who are watching because of the technical aspect who appreciate the fighting and not the showboating, stay with them.

Kind of keep everyone happy at the same time sort of.
Dude they're still going to stay with the sport because those people who love the technical aspect of MMA absolutely hate Brock Lesnar and want to see his downfall.

There are probably few fans who even care if he gets fined, thats not important, whats important is that they hope someone if anyone makes Brock bleed.

[fatboy11]

Im not denying that, im saying he does something so small that it wont even affect brock, but so that the fans who are watching because of the technical aspect who appreciate the fighting and not the showboating, stay with them.

Kind of keep everyone happy at the same time sort of.He doesn't care about them. He knows they compose such a small, small percentage of his fan base that they don't matter. And he also knows that he isn't going to lose them. If they stop watching the sport because of something like that, they weren't FIGHT fans to begin with. Most serious MMA fans knows that most fighters aren't like Brock Lesnar.

[Interminator]

Brett Rogers never had a chance to go to the UFC. And he's not the #3 ranked HW in the world. Not even close. Probably not even top 10. I understand you said "from what you've seen", but I've seen all the top guys fight and he's not there.

I think any HW top 5 has to include Fedor, Brock, Alistair Overeem, Josh Barnett and Couture/Mir/Nog. Cain and Shane Carwin are knocking at the door. Cro Cop could get back there. Antonio Silva is in the mix as well.

Brett Rogers is a BAAAAAAAAAAAD Man.

Until he dropped AA I believed AA was #3 in the world, when he did that it elevated my respect for him.

[Lebron23]

Brock Lesnar is a F*cking Beast. I remember last year that many ISHIOTS hated Brock after Frank Mir defeated him in their First Fight.

[ILballa]

where can i watch these fights online!? i had to work tonight and missed everything.
lesnar vs mir (http://www.mmaturf.net/dev/smf/index.php/topic,6703.0.html)

gsp vs alves (http://www.mmaturf.net/dev/smf/index.php/topic,6705.0.html)

henderson vs bisping (http://www.mmaturf.net/dev/smf/index.php/topic,6702.0.html)

akiyama vs belcher (http://www.mmaturf.net/dev/smf/index.php/topic,6701.0.html)

[RandomBalla55]

He doesn't about them. He knows they compose such a small, small percentage of his fan base that they don't matter. And he also knows that he isn't going to lose them. If they stop watching the sport because of something like that, they weren't FIGHT fans to begin with. Most serious MMA fans knows that most fighters aren't like Brock Lesnar.

Basically.

Fatboy is the voice of reason.

[fatboy11]

Brett Rogers is a BAAAAAAAAAAAD Man.

Until he dropped AA I believed AA was #3 in the world, when he did that it elevated my respect for him.Yeah, but he beat Arlovski at the one thing just about any semi-hard hitting heavyweight can beat Arlovski at.

Andrei's chin is an absolute joke. Brett Rogers will get worked by Fabricio Werdum or Alistair Overeem in Strikeforce.

He's a good fighter, but he's pretty one-dimensional. He's a hard-hitting slugger. A good wrestler would wear him out and pound him out. Beating Arlvoski definitely gives him top 10 consideration, but it certainly doesn't put him in the top 3, IMO.

[Interminator]

I always figured it was more aimed at smarter people who truely appreciated the fighting not the hero villain bullsh*t.

yes i just called wrestling fans stupid, ya got a problem with that
:oldlol:

People enjoy the Hero-Villain type of **** in any sport, people want someone who they relate to and that they can root for as in a "face", and people want someone who they just cant stand and hope loses as in a "heel".

[Lebron23]

Brock Lesnar Pwned the Haters.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61678

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118697

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Interminator]

Yeah, but he beat Arlovski at the one thing just about any semi-hard hitting heavyweight can beat Arlovski at.

Andrei's chin is an absolute joke. Brett Rogers will get worked by Fabricio Werdum or Alistair Overeem in Strikeforce.

He's a good fighter, but he's pretty one-dimensional. He's a hard-hitting slugger. A good wrestler would wear him out and pound him out. Beating Arlvoski definitely gives him top 10 consideration, but it certainly doesn't put him in the top 3, IMO.
TBH I am just simply getting tired of the re-treads like Sylvia & Coutore and others who have been around for awhile, had their run of success, loses a title, then spends the rest of their career fighting to be a #1 contender against other re-treads.

[hayden695]

He doesn't care about them. He knows they compose such a small, small percentage of his fan base that they don't matter. And he also knows that he isn't going to lose them. If they stop watching the sport because of something like that, they weren't FIGHT fans to begin with. Most serious MMA fans knows that most fighters aren't like Brock Lesnar.
i suppose you are right with that, if it were just me i would be trying to satisfy some of the fans that had been there since day one when UFC wasnt popular, but they probably wouldnt leave, maybe be pissed but they just know brock is a joke

[fatboy11]

TBH I am just simply getting tired of the re-treads like Sylvia & Coutore and others who have been around for awhile, had their run of success, loses a title, then spends the rest of their career fighting to be a #1 contender against other re-treads.Have no fear.

The new generation is here.

Cain Velasquez, Junior dos Santos and Shane Carwin are emerging as contenders. They have Roy Nelson also. He's going to be on the upcoming season of TUF. He's a borderline top 10 guy. They just signed Chris Tuscherer and he'll be debuting at UFC 102. He's like 17-1 and he's a training partner of Brock Lesnar. Also debuting at UFC 102, they signed Mike Russow and Todd Duffee. They were supposed to fight each other, but their bouts got mixed up. Todd Duffee is a younger fighter, but has a TKO win over PRIDE and UFC vet Assuerio Silva. He trains out of ATT also. Russow is like 13-1 and is a very solid fighter. He was hanging really tough with Sergei Kharitonov before losing in his lone PRIDE fight.

Strikeforce also has a young HW by the name of Shane del Rosario. Big kid with great Muay Thai.

[hayden695]

:oldlol:

People enjoy the Hero-Villain type of **** in any sport, people want someone who they relate to and that they can root for as in a "face", and people want someone who they just cant stand and hope loses as in a "heel".
like how Jeff keeps you around ISH?:D

i kid, i kid

[Interminator]

like how Jeff keeps you around ISH?:D

i kid, i kid
Yeah, like that.

Ive pretty much become a "heel" on ISH.

[Skywalker]

is there anywhere to watch the jones fight

[Da KO King]

your not seeing our side, sure in wrestling and even in MMA it will bring attention but that isnt acceptable in some peoples eyes and basicaly im asking if you think it is in Dana whites. Oh and i assume if he did anything it would be a small fine. Slap on the wrist basically
I'm sure Dana White is fine with it. White is ok with anything short of homicide that brings attention/coverage to the UFC.

[PistolPete]

What a night. Really impressed with the Alves/St. Pierre fight. Alves hung in there but the fight was over in the first round. Bisping's knockout and thump he received later was shocking to see.

As far as Brock is concerned, size is all the advantage he has. Those punches he throws are like bricks and he overpowers you constantly. Lesnar could easily go unbeaten for the next few years.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

brock lesner!!!!!!

[Real Men Wear Green]

I honestly wouldn't fight Brock Lesnar for just 100k. It'd have to be millions. Even for the heavyweights, the vast majority have no chance, and we see no one that could take him in the UFC more than one time out of 10. Mir had the good fortune to face the completely inexperienced version in their first bout and was so able to interrupt his ass-kicking with that leg submission. Now with just a little bit more experience he didn't leave such an opening. His advantage in size and power is just ridiculous.


Im not denying that, im saying he does something so small that it wont even affect brock, but so that the fans who are watching because of the technical aspect who appreciate the fighting and not the showboating, stay with them.

Kind of keep everyone happy at the same time sort of.
This isn't JV Girls' Softball. Have you ever watched "Ultimate Fighter?" They curse all the time. Dana White himself is a swear machine. MMA fans tune in because they like to watch fighting, period. What ever small minority (maybe 1% of 1%?) that was going to get turned off by foul language tuned out years ago. The "issue" really doesn't exist. The only chance that Lesnar gets reprimanded is if the FCC comes cracking down on the UFC, but seeing as that was a PPV event I don't see what basis they'd have to level a fine over someone shooting the bird. There's far more severe stuff than that on pay per view.

[1manfastbreak]

holy **** dan henderson knocked the f-u-c-k outta bisping.

LOL

[PistolPete]

I really hope St. Pierre doesn't puss out though and puts on the weight to fight Silva at some point.

[Pistol Pete]

1. My main man Georges St. Pierre just as I thought he would and controlled the fight with Thiago Alves, didn't buy into the prefight hype that Alves was so much stronger and bigger and St. Pierre proved me correct. I don't think anyone can hang with Georges at 170, though realistically, Alves never had anything outside a punchers chance anyays.

2. God Bless Dan Henderson for that right hand from hell and the followup jumping strike to the KO'd corpse of Michael Bisping. I appreciate Henderson' maturity and attitude toward the sport, always calm and well mannered, always ready to throw down when it comes time to fight.

3. Brock Lesnar is a beast, I hate how he carries himself and think generally, his attitude is terrible for the sport, but he does have a large WWE based following that generates alot of interest in the sport so overall his presence is good. I think he's the second best heavyweight in the world, Fedor would still handle him, atleast for a few more years.

[1manfastbreak]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2340/1247367977823.gif

FTW!!!!!!!!

[Pistol Pete]

I really hope St. Pierre doesn't puss out though and puts on the weight to fight Silva at some point.

It's not being a puss if he feels the need to dominate and solidify himself as the greatest welterweight in MMA history, he's only 28 years old, he can move up a bit later on as his body matures if he feels the need for a challenge, it's better to cement a legacy.

[1manfastbreak]

wtf do you guys have the same sn? lol

[PistolPete]

It's not being a puss if he feels the need to dominate and solidify himself as the greatest welterweight in MMA history, he's only 28 years old, he can move up a bit later on as his body matures if he feels the need for a challenge, it's better to cement a legacy.

He's dominated that class so far. No point in putting off the inevitable.

Pistol, yer not on here that much are you?

[Pistol Pete]

wtf do you guys have the same sn? lol

No, that is not possible, I figured you would realize that, or you could notice the obvious difference between the screen names, either would have sufficed.

[PistolPete]

wtf do you guys have the same sn? lol

coincidence

[Pistol Pete]

He's dominated that class so far. No point in putting off the inevitable.

Pistol, yer not on here that much are you?

People still call Matt Hughes the greatest welterweight of all time, so evidently Georges hasn't done enough, given that he is a far superior fighter then Hughes.

I'm on here nearly everyday, why?

[PistolPete]

People still call Matt Hughes the greatest welterweight of all time, so evidently Georges hasn't done enough, given that he is a far superior fighter then Hughes.

I'm on here nearly everyday, why?

Just wondering....never see you in these here parts.

[1manfastbreak]

No, that is not possible, I figured you would realize that, or you could notice the obvious difference between the screen names, either would have sufficed.

:violin:

obviously. i just thought it was funny how both of your names include the words "pistol" and "pete" and nothing else..

[Pistol Pete]

Just wondering....never see you in these here parts.

Toronto Raptors discussion, MMA discussion, Toronto Raptors forum - generally anything else, I won't be posting in.

[PistolPete]

Toronto Raptors discussion, MMA discussion, Toronto Raptors forum - generally anything else, I won't be posting in.

Good stuff. Pete, what do you think of Nate Marquadt? I think he's fighting again in UFC 102. He's listed at 185lbs but I don't believe that after buying the latest copy of Muscle and Fitness in which he's on the cover. That's one guy I'd like to see in the Heavyweight division full time.

[Pistol Pete]

Good stuff. Pete, what do you think of Nate Marquadt? I think he's fighting again in UFC 102. He's listed at 185lbs but I don't believe that after buying the latest copy of Muscle and Fitness in which he's on the cover. That's one guy I'd like to see in the Heavyweight division full time.

He fights at 185 and he's not even a big 185'er, so I don't see why you'd ever expect him fighting at heavyweight as it's above 205?

He's a great middleweight, top 5 in the division, but I'm not convinced he'd ever be able to get by Anderson Silva, he'd have to work really hard and come up with a perfect game plan to get by him. I like him though, level headed and brings an exciting fight everytime he performs.

[halffttime]

lol @ 2 pistol petes

[hayden695]

I honestly wouldn't fight Brock Lesnar for just 100k. It'd have to be millions. Even for the heavyweights, the vast majority have no chance, and we see no one that could take him in the UFC more than one time out of 10. Mir had the good fortune to face the completely inexperienced version in their first bout and was so able to interrupt his ass-kicking with that leg submission. Now with just a little bit more experience he didn't leave such an opening. His advantage in size and power is just ridiculous.


This isn't JV Girls' Softball. Have you ever watched "Ultimate Fighter?" They curse all the time. Dana White himself is a swear machine. MMA fans tune in because they like to watch fighting, period. What ever small minority (maybe 1% of 1%?) that was going to get turned off by foul language tuned out years ago. The "issue" really doesn't exist. The only chance that Lesnar gets reprimanded is if the FCC comes cracking down on the UFC, but seeing as that was a PPV event I don't see what basis they'd have to level a fine over someone shooting the bird. There's far more severe stuff than that on pay per view.
Holy phuck im not talking about swearing to eachother, or just adding it in sentences. Im talking about directly insulting the fans, which i was wondering your opinions on because my buddy brought it up. And yes Dana White loves money so i was thinking even if it is only 1% of people that got offended, maybe he would do something very minor to show that he is not making the next WWE and so he can show fans that left hes serious and the ones who had no problem still wouldnt because they just want to see lesnar get phucked up.

But whatever agree to disagree i was just saying hypothetically and let the record show i thought it was hilarioous when he said he was gonna have a Coors light