Usa Usa Usa Usa!

[Rekindled]

Oh Yea

[biasedfan]

donovan!!!:cheers: :cheers:

[konex]

What a score! Algeria keeper played great but his defense was lacking

[Younggrease]

America!!!! Fu*k Yeah

[824]

We've overcome the worst 2 referee'd games I have ever witnessed in a world cup, and I've been watching since '94

[chains5000]

We've overcome the worst 2 referee'd games I have ever witnessed in a world cup, and I've been watching since '94
South Korea - Italy and South Korea - Spain in 2002 were much worse.
Also, Spain - Italy in 94.

[mamba24]

We've overcome the worst 2 referee'd games I have ever witnessed in a world cup, and I've been watching since '94

Nice game USA. But in the worlds most watched sports USA have never won anything...

[Younggrease]

So glad I took off work for this!!! I'm hyped now!! AMERICA!!!

[Mentally_Pretty]

even whe the ref is against us, we overcome.

weon play b1tches!!!

[MeLO MvP 15]

man they know how to scare a fan!!! USA USA USA

[niko]

Someone on that Algerian team needs to explain to me exactly what they stopped trying to score. They would have moved on with a win.

[rfm767]

:applause: great game

[bucks_ole]

Shat my pants when it happened. USA BABY!!!

[Luka27]

Slovenia :( :cry:

[Grey Dawn]

Yep, refs were definitely against the US advancing in this tourny, but they still did it. It's more fun when the US is an underdog of sorts

[beasly15]

:pimp:

[824]

Nice game USA. But in the worlds most watched sports USA have never won anything...

And? The World Cup comes around every 4 years, we've only been a strong soccer nation for a short period of time here, but we're starting to become a powerhouse in international soccer, if you think the US won't be a dominant force in soccer in the future that's funny. Highest population nation in the World Cup atm btw, unless India and China decide to not suck at soccer. Who cares if we haven't done shit when nobody gave a **** about soccer.

[Younggrease]

And? The World Cup comes around every 4 years, we've only been a strong soccer nation for a short period of time here, but we're starting to become a powerhouse in international soccer, if you think the US won't be a dominant force in soccer in the future that's funny. Highest population nation in the World Cup atm btw, unless India and China decide to not suck at soccer. Who cares if we haven't done shit when nobody gave a **** about soccer.

I hope some little kid with Dwayne Wade/Monta Ellis athletism saw this today and decides to pick up soccer and leave bball and football alone. As soon as this happens a few times US is gonna a force out there.

[leopoldstotch]

:applause:

congrats to the USA. i had small hopes for them after the 85th minute when things looked bleak.

[Fatal9]

We've overcome the worst 2 referee'd games I have ever witnessed in a world cup, and I've been watching since '94
You've also pulled out two once in a lifetime miracles, first with the lucky goal against England and second a goal facing elimination in extra time. lol @ American fans getting hyped. You guys realize this was the weakest group, right? And you needed two miracles to make it through.

[wang4three]

Disney could make a movie after this game.

[niko]

Nice game USA. But in the worlds most watched sports USA have never won anything...

Did someone kick your puppy or something? It's a great win. How many countries have won? 6, 7? Should no one else be happy?

[dak121]

You've also pulled out two once in a lifetime miracles, first with the lucky goal against England and second a goal facing elimination in extra time. lol @ American fans getting hyped. You guys realize this was the weakest group, right? And you needed two miracles to make it through.

**** off. Seriously. Stop acting like a ***** and give them credit.

[Bosnian Sajo]

:bowdown::bowdown:

[niko]

I hope some little kid with Dwayne Wade/Monta Ellis athletism saw this today and decides to pick up soccer and leave bball and football alone. As soon as this happens a few times US is gonna a force out there.

I was thinking that too. In that England game the difference is the big huge athletes in that country play soccer and for us its our less atletic people. If we had ONE athletic star, a Ronaldo, etc. we'd be a team that could be competitive in winning the whole thing.

One hopes what you said happens.

[niko]

You've also pulled out two once in a lifetime miracles, first with the lucky goal against England and second a goal facing elimination in extra time. lol @ American fans getting hyped. You guys realize this was the weakest group, right? And you needed two miracles to make it through.

:D We won. EAT IT.

[Fatal9]

but we're starting to become a powerhouse in international soccer, if you think the US won't be a dominant force in soccer in the future that's funny.
:oldlol:

[Lamar Doom]

Disney could make a movie after this game.


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5558/disneysoccer.jpg

[I am that I am]

You've also pulled out two once in a lifetime miracles, first with the lucky goal against England and second a goal facing elimination in extra time. lol @ American fans getting hyped. You guys realize this was the weakest group, right? And you needed two miracles to make it through.
How is a goal in extra time a once in a lifetime miracle, its not like it was a fluke wonder goal it was well built up and USA had numbers on the break.

You are such a hater. This is not the weakest group, england is in it, the Mexico-South Africa Uruguay France group is the worse seeing as Uruguay is the only good team there.

[wang4three]

You've also pulled out two once in a lifetime miracles, first with the lucky goal against England and second a goal facing elimination in extra time. lol @ American fans getting hyped. You guys realize this was the weakest group, right? And you needed two miracles to make it through.

Miracles? A miracle would be a last second heave at mid field to win. The England goalie slip up was not the lone slip up of the World Cup thus far, and I doubt it'll be the last. You're really going to claim a miracle there? Lucky yes, miracle? No. Secondly, the last goal, while also luck in timing was really a result of persistence. We had opportunities the entire game if you were watching. We dominated in the second half and I think Algeria only really had 1-2 real shots at the goal while we were continually getting shots in the box that we should have, but did not convert. **** off about miracles.

[I am that I am]

:oldlol:
XD we're going to the quarter finals atleast, u mad kid? Where you from hater?

[Bosnian Sajo]

How is a goal in extra time a once in a lifetime miracle, its not like it was a fluke wonder goal it was well built up and USA had numbers on the break.

You are such a hater. This is not the weakest group, england is in it, the Mexico-South Africa Uruguay France group is the worse seeing as Uruguay is the only good team there.


France is also good, just did not do well at all this world cup...very disappointed :(

[Mor'Fiyah]

Really glad the US made it through. And I am Jamaican. I thought they were better than Algeria today. They deserved it and they did fight to the end.

That said all this talk about them overcoming poorly reffed games is garbage generated by ESPN. The Worldwide soccer community feels no such things because there have been far worse officiating in far bigger games and because the disallowed goal in the Slovenia match was not that bad a decision at all. It was not even a disallowed goal since the whistle was blown BEFORE the goal was scored. Its akin the the ref blowing a whistle for a foul off the ball under the basket at the same time someone threw an alley oop pass and the player dunking it.

[Snoop_Cat]

You've also pulled out two once in a lifetime miracles, first with the lucky goal against England and second a goal facing elimination in extra time. lol @ American fans getting hyped. You guys realize this was the weakest group, right? And you needed two miracles to make it through.

so what sh*thole country did you come crawling from.

[sobleski]

You've also pulled out two once in a lifetime miracles, first with the lucky goal against England and second a goal facing elimination in extra time. lol @ American fans getting hyped. You guys realize this was the weakest group, right? And you needed two miracles to make it through.

Are you ****in kiddin? lol at foreigners thinkkin that the Usa didnt deserve to get through. 2 once in a lifetime b.s calls takin a way goals in back to back games. **** off dude. You are the G.P.O.A.T, Greatest pessimest of all time.

[Fatal9]

lmao. If you weren't against one of the worst offensive teams in the world, the scoring chance Algeria botched to start the break for your miracle goal, would have been put away.

You got dominated by England in game 1, but pulled the luckiest goal of the year.

You were choking away chance after chance (speaks more to the horrible talent of your team than anything) against Algeria and got insanely lucky again, with two minutes left towards elimination.

So yes, you needed two miracles to advance out of the weakest group in the world cup.
Funny thing is, now USA is in the weak upper bracket in the finals stage, so it is not inconceivable that they could pull out another 1-0 lucky win (though I fully expect them to lose). Congrats, this clearly means USA is going to be a dominating force in the future :bowdown:

[ZINHA]

And? The World Cup comes around every 4 years, we've only been a strong soccer nation for a short period of time here, but we're starting to become a powerhouse in international soccer, if you think the US won't be a dominant force in soccer in the future that's funny. Highest population nation in the World Cup atm btw, unless India and China decide to not suck at soccer. Who cares if we haven't done shit when nobody gave a **** about soccer.

Powerhouse:lol: that won't be happening anytime soon ;)

The population in a nation aint everything in soccer, some countries just suck, not saying US suck here, just saying that US won't be a powerhouse as long as...

Netherlands, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, England is around.

The amount of talents thats coming from those countries are just insane and population is not the only answer believe you me, world class players just seem to pop off from these nations especially.

Has to be genes or something :/

[Mor'Fiyah]

Are you ****in kiddin? lol at foreigners thinkkin that the Usa didnt deserve to get through. 2 once in a lifetime b.s calls takin a way goals in back to back games. **** off dude. You are the G.P.O.A.T, Greatest pessimest of all time.

You are a basketball fan. You lack perspective. The calls were not that bad at all.

[Mor'Fiyah]

Powerhouse:lol: that won't be happening anytime soon ;)

The population in a nation aint everything in soccer, some countries just suck, not saying US suck here, just saying that US won't be a powerhouse as long as...

Netherlands, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, England is around.

The amount of talents thats coming from those countries are just insane and population is not the only answer believe you me, world class players just seem to pop off from these nations especially.

Has to be genes or something :/

Its not about population... its about the population that play quality soccer and the US is still a long way off from that.

[I am that I am]

Really glad the US made it through. And I am Jamaican. I thought they were better than Algeria today. They deserved it and they did fight to the end.

That said all this talk about them overcoming poorly reffed games is garbage generated by ESPN. The Worldwide soccer community feels no such things because there have been far worse officiating in far bigger games and because the disallowed goal in the Slovenia match was not that bad a decision at all. It was not even a disallowed goal since the whistle was blown BEFORE the goal was scored. Its akin the the ref blowing a whistle for a foul off the ball under the basket at the same time someone threw an alley oop pass and the player dunking it.

Even Mexicans, our biggest rival, are saying the USA got absolutely robbed.

Doesnt matter now though, we still topped the group. Hopefully the refs are going to stop this shit now

[Simple Jack]

lmao. If you weren't against one of the worst offensive teams in the world, the scoring chance Algeria botched to start the break for your miracle goal, would have been put away.

You got dominated by England in game 1, but pulled the luckiest goal of the year.

You were choking away chance after chance (speaks more to the horrible talent of your team than anything) against Algeria and got insanely lucky again, with two minutes left towards elimination.

So yes, you needed two miracles to advance out of the weakest group in the world cup.
Funny thing is, now USA is in the weak upper bracket in the finals stage, so it is not inconceivable that they could pull out another 1-0 lucky win (though I fully expect them to lose). Congrats, this clearly means USA is going to be a dominating force in the future :bowdown:


Luckiest goal of the year? How much soccer do you watch?

[Fatal9]

I love how...

Beating Algeria in the 91st minute while facing elimination in a weak group = We are a powerhouse baby!

:oldlol:

[I am that I am]

lmao. If you weren't against one of the worst offensive teams in the world, the scoring chance Algeria botched to start the break for your miracle goal, would have been put away.

You got dominated by England in game 1, but pulled the luckiest goal of the year.

You were choking away chance after chance (speaks more to the horrible talent of your team than anything) against Algeria and got insanely lucky again, with two minutes left towards elimination.

So yes, you needed two miracles to advance out of the weakest group in the world cup.
Funny thing is, now USA is in the weak upper bracket in the finals stage, so it is not inconceivable that they could pull out another 1-0 lucky win (though I fully expect them to lose). Congrats, this clearly means USA is going to be a dominating force in the future :bowdown:

u mad?

Where you from scum? More importantly, where do you live

[DaniloGallinari]

I don't know what to say to USA haters. I don't know what they are thinking before writing these posts. I think the best thing to do is ignore them, and let them bask in their own hate/despair/misery. Why?

BECAUSE WE ****ING WON TODAY!!

[sobleski]

You are a basketball fan. You lack perspective. The calls were not that bad at all.

I play soccer for my high school, andWhat are u talkin about?!?!? Algeria deserved two red cards that game (elbow to dempsey, and trip on altidore) both not called, offsides was close but he was onside the right call shouldve been made. Also i still dont know what the call was against slovenia. In conclusion, ur dumb and a basketball fan, u lack perspective.

[Mor'Fiyah]

Even Mexicans, our biggest rival, are saying the USA got absolutely robbed.

Doesnt matter now though, we still topped the group. Hopefully the refs are going to stop this shit now

Again you lack perspective. How many Mexicans have you spoken to... and how robbed do you think they think you got?! lol

Dude you don't even understand the call. If you were the defensive team and the referee blows the whistle on a free kick and then AFTER the whistle is blown a US player kicks it in and then the ref allows the goal that would be some serious B.S.

I am not saying it was or wasn't a bad call... I am saying thats its nowhere close to the worst call in this world cup much less ever.

[Lamar Doom]

we have the best athletes on the planet, just never put our top guys into soccer (like every other country on the planet does) I know it's hard to be from a weak country and have to resort to belittling victory on the internet. If the US not being dominant at soccer makes you feel better, enjoy it, sounds like an awesome time.

[Mor'Fiyah]

I play soccer for my high school, andWhat are u talkin about?!?!? Algeria deserved two red cards that game (elbow to dempsey, and trip on altidore) both not called, offsides was close but he was onside the right call shouldve been made. Also i still dont know what the call was against slovenia. In conclusion, ur dumb and a basketball fan, u lack perspective.

I am from a country where soccer is the national sport (we rightfully call it football). I have played football all my life. I cannot play basketball. Can't even lay up the ball... but I can chest trap a ball, flip it back over my head and bicycle it into a goal. I have watched every single World Cup game since 1990 world cup. YOU lack perspective. That call was not even the worse call in THIS world cup much less the worst call in history. To call it a bad call even is dubious as the ref could very well have seen a foul and blown his whistle for a dead ball while the cross was in the air. Even if he calls in advertent whistle and gives the ball back to the US the goal CANNOT stand.

[ZINHA]

Its not about population... its about the population that play quality soccer and the US is still a long way off from that.

Let's move MLS to Europe and let them be a part of Champions League:lol

No seriously, what you are saying is partially true, but those countries i mentioned is just boilin with talents.

But cudos to USA though, they're always dangerous as it seems, they are the team that can cause trouble to any country.

Discipline and hard work seems to be the recipe for the US soccer, hope you guys can bring up some flair and technical abilities to your game in the near future.

[Fatal9]

I play soccer for my high school, andWhat are u talkin about?!?!? Algeria deserved two red cards that game (elbow to dempsey, and trip on altidore) both not called, offsides was close but he was onside the right call shouldve been made. Also i still dont know what the call was against slovenia. In conclusion, ur dumb and a basketball fan, u lack perspective.
:oldlol:

You really talking about red cards when Dempsey should have been off the field in the first 10 minutes of the game after HE threw an elbow?

[Mor'Fiyah]

we have the best athletes on the planet, just never put our top guys into soccer (like every other country on the planet does) I know it's hard to be from a weak country and have to resort to belittling victory on the internet. If the US not being dominant at soccer makes you feel better, enjoy it, sounds like an awesome time.

The best athletes on the planet? lol

Even if you did have the best athletes on the planet (which you don't) that does not translate to the best football team because skill and technique weighs too much into football. The best athletes in the game come from Africa right now and yet the African teams are losing still because they lack fundamentals.

[Mor'Fiyah]

Let's move MLS to Europe and let them be a part of Champions League:lol

No seriously, what you are saying is partially true, but those countries i mentioned is just boilin with talents.

But cudos to USA though, they're always dangerous as it seems, they are the team that can cause trouble to any country.

Discipline and hard work seems to be the recipe for the US soccer, hope you guys can bring up some flair and technical abilities to your game in the near future.

Thats what I love about the US team. They hustle. They make up for their lack of technique and class with sheer hustle and determination. I am glad they got through to the second round.

[ZINHA]

The best athletes on the planet? lol

Even if you did have the best athletes on the planet (which you don't) that does not translate to the best football team because skill and technique weighs too much into football. The best athletes in the game come from Africa right now and yet the African teams are losing still because they lack fundamentals.

Right on about the african teams, they have the technique and the athletic players but lack organization and discipline, thats their biggest problem.

[Jailblazers7]

The best athletes on the planet? lol

Even if you did have the best athletes on the planet (which you don't) that does not translate to the best football team because skill and technique weighs too much into football. The best athletes in the game come from Africa right now and yet the African teams are losing still because they lack fundamentals.

How don't we have the best athletes in the world?

Michael Phelps, Lebron James, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, etc etc.

We compete for the most medals in every Olympics and have great athletes in a large number of sports. I don't think any country has elite athletes across the board like the US.

[sobleski]

I am from a country where soccer is the national sport (we rightfully call it football). I have played football all my life. I cannot play basketball. Can't even lay up the ball... but I can chest trap a ball, flip it back over my head and bicycle it into a goal. I have watched every single World Cup game since 1990 world cup. YOU lack perspective. That call was not even the worse call in THIS world cup much less the worst call in history. To call it a bad call even is dubious as the ref could very well have seen a foul and blown his whistle for a dead ball while the cross was in the air. Even if he calls in advertent whistle and gives the ball back to the US the goal CANNOT stand.


a.) u havent watched every world cup game
b.) so can i
c.)yes it was, show me a worse call than usa vs. slovenia ( and dont post clip of italy guy in box flopping, because it still was a foul)
d.) i also didnt call it the worse call in history
e.) nevertheless an inadvertant whistle is still extremely unlucky for the u.s, reguardless if it was inadvertant or not it was still a terrible call which is what i am arguing.

[ZenMaster]

The best athletes on the planet? lol

Even if you did have the best athletes on the planet (which you don't) that does not translate to the best football team because skill and technique weighs too much into football. The best athletes in the game come from Africa right now and yet the African teams are losing still because they lack fundamentals.


It seems you are having trouble deciding if you are talking about the best athletes in general, or the best athletes withing soccer..

[DaniloGallinari]

The best athletes on the planet? lol

Even if you did have the best athletes on the planet (which you don't) that does not translate to the best football team because skill and technique weighs too much into football. The best athletes in the game come from Africa right now and yet the African teams are losing still because they lack fundamentals.
Americans are more athletic due to the simple fact that we are mixed. A lot of top athletes in the US have different blood, and we all know that that can result in superior genes. Black people (aka black people from America) are more athletic than Africans due to this.

[wang4three]

Beating a team 1-0! It's never happened in the history of football and the World Cup! Must be a miracle!

Unforced error to tie a game! Has never happened in the history of football and the World Cup! No player has ever screwed up so badly! Must be a miracle!

I found my glasses this morning after missing them for two days! They were in desk drawer! Miracle!

A miracle is defined as an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause! This certainly fits that definition! Miracle!

The cashier gave me and extra $.75 for my coffee this morning! Miracle!

I was working really hard on an assignment this last two weeks and I finished it on time! Miracle!

I just went to the bathroom and there was no one urinating next to me! Miracle!

Miracles everywhere! I can Quick Reply Post! Miracle! Miracle!

[sobleski]

:oldlol:

You really talking about red cards when Dempsey should have been off the field in the first 10 minutes of the game after HE threw an elbow?

You really trying to nit pick at a non existant elbow to help strenghten ur point?

[DaniloGallinari]

Beating a team 1-0! It's never happened in the history of football and the World Cup! Must be a miracle!

Unforced error to tie a game! Has never happened in the history of football and the World Cup! No player has ever screwed up so badly! Must be a miracle!

I found my glasses this morning after missing them for two days! They were in desk drawer! Miracle!

The cashier gave me and extra $.75 for my coffee this morning! Miracle!

I was working really hard on an assignment this last two weeks and I finished it on time! Miracle!

I just went to the bathroom and there was no one urinating next to me! Miracle!

Miracles everywhere! I can Quick Reply Post! Miracle! Miracle!
****ing miracles. How do they work?

[sobleski]

Beating a team 1-0! It's never happened in the history of football and the World Cup! Must be a miracle!

Unforced error to tie a game! Has never happened in the history of football and the World Cup! No player has ever screwed up so badly! Must be a miracle!

I found my glasses this morning after missing them for two days! They were in desk drawer! Miracle!

A miracle is defined as an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause! This certainly fits that definition! Miracle!

The cashier gave me and extra $.75 for my coffee this morning! Miracle!

I was working really hard on an assignment this last two weeks and I finished it on time! Miracle!

I just went to the bathroom and there was no one urinating next to me! Miracle!

Miracles everywhere! I can Quick Reply Post! Miracle! Miracle!

hahaha, thats how some of the people on hear are actin though

[Fatal9]

USA is only a major force in one of the five most global/popular team sports (football, cricket, field hockey, rugby and basketball). No one abroad gives crap like baseball and American football a second of their day (didn't they scrap baseball from the olympics just now? :oldlol:). In recent years they are losing their supremacy in basketball too, after being embarrassed at '04 olympics, in '06 again and needing bailout shots from Kobe to squeeze out a win in '08. If we look at it by gold medal count, China > USA in summer, Canada > USA in winter. And even if we go back 20-30 years, Soviet Union used to regularly own USA in every Olympics.

[wang4three]

****ing miracles. How do they work?

You've never ever replied to one of my posts in the history of ISH until now! What a miracle!

[DaniloGallinari]

USA is only a major force in one of the five most global/popular team sports (football, cricket, field hockey, rugby and basketball). No one abroad gives crap like baseball and American football a second of their day (didn't they scrap baseball from the olympics just now? :oldlol:). In recent years they are losing their supremacy in basketball too, after being embarrassed at '04 olympics, in '06 again and needing bailout shots from Kobe to squeeze out a win in '08. If we look at it by gold medal count, China > USA in summer, Canada > USA in winter. And even if we go back 20-30 years, Soviet Union used to regularly own USA in every Olympics.
And? Is this victory getting to you that much, that you must resort to hating on the internet? We understand that you hate the US. No need to keep reminding us every few posts. I think you are posting for the troll effect.

[Fatal9]

Beating a team 1-0! It's never happened in the history of football and the World Cup! Must be a miracle!

Unforced error to tie a game! Has never happened in the history of football and the World Cup! No player has ever screwed up so badly! Must be a miracle!

I found my glasses this morning after missing them for two days! They were in desk drawer! Miracle!

A miracle is defined as an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause! This certainly fits that definition! Miracle!

The cashier gave me and extra $.75 for my coffee this morning! Miracle!

I was working really hard on an assignment this last two weeks and I finished it on time! Miracle!

I just went to the bathroom and there was no one urinating next to me! Miracle!

Miracles everywhere! I can Quick Reply Post! Miracle! Miracle!
[ ] funny

[I am that I am]

Again you lack perspective. How many Mexicans have you spoken to... and how robbed do you think they think you got?! lol

Dude you don't even understand the call. If you were the defensive team and the referee blows the whistle on a free kick and then AFTER the whistle is blown a US player kicks it in and then the ref allows the goal that would be some serious B.S.

I am not saying it was or wasn't a bad call... I am saying thats its nowhere close to the worst call in this world cup much less ever.
You don't understand the call, he blew the whistle for no reason.

I know its not the worst call in the world cup ever, but it's not like we're Brazil, we don't score loads of goals, we are a mediocre team so taking away the few goals we do score hurts us alot. When 2 games in a row we have 2 goals taken away from us, that is difficult for a low scoring team like USA to deal with.

Notice how the Slovenians kept defending after the whistle-they didnt hear it until afterwords just like the USA players. Its not like Slovenians stopped defending when they heard the whistle then USA kept playing and only scored because Slovenia stopped defending. Watch the replay and look at reality kid.

[bdreason]

Two worst calls in the entire tourney so far have been against USA... but we still made it through.

[sobleski]

USA is only a major force in one of the five most global/popular team sports (football, cricket, field hockey, rugby and basketball). No one abroad gives crap like baseball and American football a second of their day (didn't they scrap baseball from the olympics just now? :oldlol:). In recent years they are losing their supremacy in basketball too, after being embarrassed at '04 olympics, in '06 again and needing bailout shots from Kobe to squeeze out a win in '08. If we look at it by gold medal count, China > USA in summer, Canada > USA in winter. And even if we go back 20-30 years, Soviet Union used to regularly own USA in every Olympics.

I am willing to bet any amount of money that you are either from england or from a country colonized by england. Also being second in the world in both olympics would qualify us as an international power in sports dont yuh think?

[wang4three]

[ ] funny

It's not supposed to be funny. It's called satire, jackass.

[wang4three]

I am willing to bet any amount of money that you are either from england or from a country colonized by england. Also being second in the world in both olympics would qualify us as an international power in sports dont yuh think?

No, apparently it's a miracle that we could win anything at all, let alone be in the top 5 of most World sporting events.

[I am that I am]

Imagine if instead of being traitors to their nation, Subotic and Rossi decided to do the right thing and play for us?

We would have rolled through the group stage with ease

[Fatal9]

Gotta deal with American bandwagon clowns act like they've been "soccer" fans all their lives now :rolleyes:


It's not supposed to be funny. It's called satire, jackass.
Satire is basically an attempt to be witty or funny. You were neither.

[I am that I am]

Gotta deal with American bandwagon clowns act like they've been "soccer" fans all their lives now :rolleyes:


Satire is basically an attempt to be witty or funny. You were neither.
Where are you from kid? I hope you don't live in the USA

[wang4three]

Satire is basically an attempt to be witty or funny. You were neither.

No it's doesn't. Did you only laugh when reading Brave New World or Animal Farm? Congratulations, you've now proven to not know the definition of two words.

[Rizko]

LOL at people arguing over a shitty sport like soccer. Soccer actually isn't bad, I just don't like it personally.

[rfm767]

This victory should boost their morale, lets see who they face in 2nd round.

My rooting for this world cup is

1- Chile (for obvious reasons)
2- USA
3- Brasil

[Clifton]

The England goalie slip up was not the lone slip up of the World Cup thus far, and I doubt it'll be the last. You're really going to claim a miracle there? Lucky yes, miracle? No.
Sorry, but that was a miracle. Come on the best goalie in England *dropped the friggin ball.* I played goalie in gradeschool for a few years and that never happened to me. I never let a shot that easy go, once. I was not a great goalie but that slipup was mind-boggling.

But that's the thing about soccer. Flukes are *part of the game.* And as such, there are no flukes in soccer. Human referees are part of the game, especially.

A goalie dropping the f*cking ball into his own net, though, especially that shot as it was not particularly hard, is about as close as it gets to a fluke in soccer. In professional, world-class level soccer. In kids' soccer leagues you can expect that kind of thing. But that's the equivalent of Ray Allen missing 2 at the line down 1 with 5 seconds left. It should have been a loss. Walking away you have to acknowledge how lucky you just got and that really, you were outplayed and shouldn't have won.

[rfm767]

LOL at people arguing over a shitty sport like soccer. Soccer actually isn't bad, I just don't like it personally.


good thing i saw the white letters before the flame :lol

[Lamar Doom]

Also being second in the world in both olympics would qualify us as an international power in sports dont yuh think?

second in golds, handily won the overall medal count. had FORTY more medals than anyone else in 04. best athletes in the world.

[wang4three]

Sorry, but that was a miracle. Come on the best goalie in England *dropped the friggin ball.* I played goalie in gradeschool for a few years and that never happened to me. I never let a shot that easy go, once. I was not a great goalie but that slipup was mind-boggling.

But that's the thing about soccer. Flukes are *part of the game.* And as such, there are no flukes in soccer. Human referees are part of the game, especially.

A goalie dropping the f*cking ball into his own net, though, especially that shot as it was not particularly hard, is about as close as it gets to a fluke in soccer. In professional, world-class level soccer. In kids' soccer leagues you can expect that kind of thing. But that's the equivalent of Ray Allen missing 2 at the line down 1 with 5 seconds left. It should have been a loss. Walking away you have to acknowledge how lucky you just got and that really, you were outplayed and shouldn't have won.

I don't know how you can claim that to be a "miracle," then say "flukes are part of the game" then say in professional football that is "as close as it gets to being a fluke". Logically, if something is part of the game and it happens, it would negate the possibility of being a miracle. I said they were lucky, but even that sounds like a stretch. It's a fortuitous bounce more than anything, just like a full court heave in basketball that banks in. It happens, and quite often if you think about it, but miracle? Come on. Not even close.

[Mentally_Pretty]

lmao. If you weren't against one of the worst offensive teams in the world, the scoring chance Algeria botched to start the break for your miracle goal, would have been put away.

You got dominated by England in game 1, but pulled the luckiest goal of the year.

You were choking away chance after chance (speaks more to the horrible talent of your team than anything) against Algeria and got insanely lucky again, with two minutes left towards elimination.

So yes, you needed two miracles to advance out of the weakest group in the world cup.
Funny thing is, now USA is in the weak upper bracket in the finals stage, so it is not inconceivable that they could pull out another 1-0 lucky win (though I fully expect them to lose). Congrats, this clearly means USA is going to be a dominating force in the future :bowdown:
get the fukk outta my country faccit!!!!

[Horatio33]

If the USA wants to be a powerhouse, they need to stop thinking making it out of a group is a monumental achievement. Mexico and Uruguay made it out of their group, and i bet they aren't going as crazy as the American fans are over a 91st minute equalizer against Algeria, who are a tiny country.

Mark my words, when you run into one of the big guns like Brazil, Spain, Argentina etc, you will be destroyed.

[bada bing]

Gotta deal with American bandwagon clowns act like they've been "soccer" fans all their lives now :rolleyes:


Satire is basically an attempt to be witty or funny. You were neither.

and we have to deal with losers like you who cant' accept that they got beat. Just stfu. The more you talk the more bandwagon fans you gonna make. stop being bitter and full of hate. The better team won and they won in an incredible fashion. just gtfo and lock yourself in your room...idiot.

[I am that I am]

Sorry, but that was a miracle. Come on the best goalie in England *dropped the friggin ball.* I played goalie in gradeschool for a few years and that never happened to me. I never let a shot that easy go, once. I was not a great goalie but that slipup was mind-boggling.

But that's the thing about soccer. Flukes are *part of the game.* And as such, there are no flukes in soccer. Human referees are part of the game, especially.

A goalie dropping the f*cking ball into his own net, though, especially that shot as it was not particularly hard, is about as close as it gets to a fluke in soccer. In professional, world-class level soccer. In kids' soccer leagues you can expect that kind of thing. But that's the equivalent of Ray Allen missing 2 at the line down 1 with 5 seconds left. It should have been a loss. Walking away you have to acknowledge how lucky you just got and that really, you were outplayed and shouldn't have won.


Green was not the best English goalie in England, Joe Hart or even Ben Foster are, he makes disastrous mistakes for his club like that all the time, everyone knew he was a disaster waiting to happen-it is Capello making a mistake by choosing Green as #1 and Green making a mistake because he's awful


Also this can be expected because English keepers throughout history have always done stupid things like this. Look at the current English number 1 David James' greatest blunders on youtube if you want to laugh and have alot of time on your hands

[I am that I am]

If the USA wants to be a powerhouse, they need to stop thinking making it out of a group is a monumental achievement. Mexico and Uruguay made it out of their group, and i bet they aren't going as crazy as the American fans are over a 91st minute equalizer against Algeria, who are a tiny country.

Mark my words, when you run into one of the big guns like Brazil, Spain, Argentina etc, you will be destroyed.
Well before this world cup Uruguay hasn't won a game in the WC in like 50 years so Im pretty sure they are going crazy over there

[rfm767]

Well before this world cup Uruguay hasn't won a game in the WC in like 50 years so Im pretty sure they are going crazy over there


Im from Chile and we are going crazy here. Every country does when winning in a world cup. Except for Brasil, Italy, Germany, Argentina, England and perhaps France, those guys start celebrating from 2-3rd round onward because they have a history of winning it. Everyone else is an underdog.

pd: Spain may be seen as favorite by some, but the truth is they have NEVER WON ANYTHING on a world cup, EVER.

[Horatio33]

Well before this world cup Uruguay hasn't won a game in the WC in like 50 years so Im pretty sure they are going crazy over there

Uruguay has won the World Cup twice.

[Horatio33]

Im from Chile and we are going crazy here. Every country does when winning in a world cup. Except for Brasil, Italy, Germany, Argentina, England and perhaps France, those guys start celebrating from 2-3rd round onward because they have a history of winning it. Everyone else is an underdog.

pd: Spain may be seen as favorite by some, but the truth is they have NEVER WON ANYTHING on a world cup, EVER.


In England, it's strange, When we win the whole country has the mindset of "we are going to win the World Cup!!!!1!!111!1!!!!" and when we have a poor result "we are sh!te we are the worst country ever!!!111!11!111!!!!!1!
Thats English weirdness for you!

[Disaprine]

put this soccer crap in the otc where it belongs and not in the nba forums.

[I am that I am]

Uruguay has won the World Cup twice.
I know, but they haven't won a world cup match since 50 years ago believe and until this world cup haven't scored in a world cup since 1982, according to the announcer at the Uruguay-France game, hard to believe


Even though they have 2 world cups Im pretty sure they're celebrating hard core right now

[Quizno]

USA is only a major force in one of the five most global/popular team sports (football, cricket, field hockey, rugby and basketball). No one abroad gives crap like baseball and American football a second of their day (didn't they scrap baseball from the olympics just now? :oldlol:). In recent years they are losing their supremacy in basketball too, after being embarrassed at '04 olympics, in '06 again and needing bailout shots from Kobe to squeeze out a win in '08. If we look at it by gold medal count, China > USA in summer, Canada > USA in winter. And even if we go back 20-30 years, Soviet Union used to regularly own USA in every Olympics.
that's funny considering baseball is the fourth most popular sport in the world and is played by more countries and people than rugby. nice try though.

[Mor'Fiyah]

Americans are more athletic due to the simple fact that we are mixed. A lot of top athletes in the US have different blood, and we all know that that can result in superior genes. Black people (aka black people from America) are more athletic than Africans due to this.

Wow. Just... WOW. lol.

Where does the fastest man in the world come from?

[beer]

Is Fatal9's hate for US soccer greater than his lust for Kobe?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3696668&postcount=5

[DaniloGallinari]

Wow. Just... WOW. lol.

Where does the fastest man in the world come from?

How does that translate to being the most athletic? I never said fastest.

Athleticism comes in different packages.

[Mor'Fiyah]

How don't we have the best athletes in the world?

Michael Phelps, Lebron James, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, etc etc.

We compete for the most medals in every Olympics and have great athletes in a large number of sports. I don't think any country has elite athletes across the board like the US.

And Dwight Howard is a better athlete than say Usain Bolt or Manny Paquiao or Gabreselassie or Roger Federer? How do you measure this?

Jamaica has 2.5 million people and has more medals per population that the United States and they ONLY do it in sprinting. How is this possible that tiny Jamaica can outperform the US?

What about the Winter Olympics?

[Disaprine]

Is Fatal9's hate for US soccer greater than his lust for Kobe?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3696668&postcount=5
damn fatal9 thats gay.

[I am that I am]

Fatal9 is russian, no wonder he's so mad, still bad about the USA making Rocky IV and ending the USSR XD


BTW Russia last made it to the knock out rounds of the world cup when?

[Mor'Fiyah]

You don't understand the call, he blew the whistle for no reason.

I know its not the worst call in the world cup ever, but it's not like we're Brazil, we don't score loads of goals, we are a mediocre team so taking away the few goals we do score hurts us alot. When 2 games in a row we have 2 goals taken away from us, that is difficult for a low scoring team like USA to deal with.

Notice how the Slovenians kept defending after the whistle-they didnt hear it until afterwords just like the USA players. Its not like Slovenians stopped defending when they heard the whistle then USA kept playing and only scored because Slovenia stopped defending. Watch the replay and look at reality kid.

He did not blow the whistle for no reason. YOU just don't know why he did. This is not dissimilar to guys banging in the paint for position. Refs can then call a foul for almost any play if they want to. People grab shirts, pull people, yank arms, shove and push and trip in the 18 yard box trying to get an advantage the whole game. The ref just happened to call one against the US in that play. Again this also just happened to end up with the US player putting the ball in the net. If the ball does not go in no one... NO ONE even mentions this call EVER.

[Mor'Fiyah]

How does that translate to being the most athletic? I never said fastest.

Athleticism comes in different packages.

Very true. Which is why I find it flabergasting that someone can claim that the US has the world's best athletes when many of the world's best athletes actually come from outside of the US in all manners of sports that the US just are not good at including cricket, long distance running, gymnastics, karate, etc.

Its disingenuous to say that the best athletes come from the US when in fact SOME of the best athletes come from the US. The US does not have a monopoly on the best athletes and they certainly do not have the best athletes per capita.

[I am that I am]

He did not blow the whistle for no reason. YOU just don't know why he did. This is not dissimilar to guys banging in the paint for position. Refs can then call a foul for almost any play if they want to. People grab shirts, pull people, yank arms, shove and push and trip in the 18 yard box trying to get an advantage the whole game. The ref just happened to call one against the US in that play. Again this also just happened to end up with the US player putting the ball in the net. If the ball does not go in no one... NO ONE even mentions this call EVER.
There also just happened to be no foul at all on any USA player, it just happens that no pundit anywhere in the world sees a foul anywhere, and it just so happens that 2 USA players were dragged down quite obviously by Slovenia.


So yes, the ref had the right to just blow his whistle and call a foul against the USA for no reason, that doesn't mean it wasn't bullshit.

[Mor'Fiyah]

There also just happened to be no foul at all on any USA player, it just happens that no pundit anywhere in the world sees a foul anywhere, and it just so happens that 2 USA players were dragged down quite obviously by Slovenia.


So yes, the ref had the right to just blow his whistle and call a foul against the USA for no reason, that doesn't mean it wasn't bullshit.

How do you know there was no foul on a US player? The pundits?! What pundits?!?! The one's on ESPN?! They have to talk about it! No one else in the world cares about that call! People were grabbing and pushing each other before the kick. .. it happens on just about every play like that. A ref could call a foul on every play like that in the box and have a case any which way he called it.

[qrich]

:oldlol: @ this thread and Fatal having his panties in a bunch.

You want to talk about miracles or luck? Well, I guess England was just lucky that Ricardo Clark had a brain fart and the English shouldn't have scored that early if he was paying attention! Just like if Green had judged the ball right, which its clear he didn't, the US would never have tied it up.

Regardless, all I have to say is hope you enjoy being runner ups in the group :cheers:





So yes, you needed two miracles to advance out of the weakest group in the world cup.
Funny thing is, now USA is in the weak upper bracket in the finals stage, so it is not inconceivable that they could pull out another 1-0 lucky win (though I fully expect them to lose). Congrats, this clearly means USA is going to be a dominating force in the future :bowdown:

Yeah, of course the US will be in the weaker bracket compared to England, since, you know, we won the group, something England couldn't do.



USA is only a major force in one of the five most global/popular team sports (football, cricket, field hockey, rugby and basketball). No one abroad gives crap like baseball and American football a second of their day (didn't they scrap baseball from the olympics just now? :oldlol:). In recent years they are losing their supremacy in basketball too, after being embarrassed at '04 olympics, in '06 again and needing bailout shots from Kobe to squeeze out a win in '08. If we look at it by gold medal count, China > USA in summer, Canada > USA in winter. And even if we go back 20-30 years, Soviet Union used to regularly own USA in every Olympics.

Of course, can't go a thread without mentioning Kobe.



If the USA wants to be a powerhouse, they need to stop thinking making it out of a group is a monumental achievement. Mexico and Uruguay made it out of their group, and i bet they aren't going as crazy as the American fans are over a 91st minute equalizer against Algeria, who are a tiny country.

Mark my words, when you run into one of the big guns like Brazil, Spain, Argentina etc, you will be destroyed.

Mexicans aren't going crazy? :oldlol:

All I see is Mexicans acting like they are the shit because they made it out of the group stages and acting like they are the greatest squad on the nation

[Quizno]

How do you know there was no foul on a US player? The pundits?! What pundits?!?! The one's on ESPN?! They have to talk about it! No one else in the world cares about that call! People were grabbing and pushing each other before the kick. .. it happens on just about every play like that. A ref could call a foul on every play like that in the box and have a case any which way he called it.
okay, honestly, there was absolutely no foul there. c'mon son. that was just a bad call.

[I am that I am]

How do you know there was no foul on a US player? The pundits?! What pundits?!?! The one's on ESPN?! They have to talk about it! No one else in the world cares about that call! People were grabbing and pushing each other before the kick. .. it happens on just about every play like that. A ref could call a foul on every play like that in the box and have a case any which way he called it.
Jamie Moyes, Mexican commentators, Brazilian commentators, Argentine commentators, Macca, Chinese commentators, pretty much every commentator all over the world.

There was no foul anywhere.

You're right a ref can bullshit and make calls for no reason.

But you tell me where the foul was, otherwise stop arguing, no one can see it, I was watching football picante-they went over the goal for like 10 minutes from different angles and the mexican pundits HATE USA, they are always making fun of them and were mocking USA for being down 2-0 to Slovenia before they came back, EVEN THESE GUYS ADMITTED USA WAS ROBBED AFTER TRYING THEIR HARDEST TO FIND A FOUL.

You are just another hater lol.

USA-Slovenia was the worst reffed game since Italy-South Korea

[niko]

We won. If you don't like it EAT IT! TOO ****ING BAD. You have to WIN the games to move on, and we WON. England has decided it is going to play football which looks like 11 total strangers kicking the ball around a park, that is not our ****ing fault. We get a lucky goal and england spends the next 50 minutes moping over it instead of trying to score - yet they somehow deserved to win?

:violin: cry me a river haters....the US is moving on...

[BlackWhiteGreen]

E-N-G, E-N-G

:confusedshrug:

[I am that I am]

E-N-G, E-N-G

:confusedshrug:
SEC-OND-PLACE, SEC-OND-PLACE"

:confusedshrug:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

SEC-OND-PLACE, SEC-OND-PLACE"

:confusedshrug:

As it stands, you're playing Germany and we're playing Ghana. Who would you rather play...

[I am that I am]

As it stands, you're playing Germany and we're playing Ghana. Who would you rather play...
Im down for either, the German team is young and lacking the mental edge germany usually has, Ghana is beatable. As a fan of the horrible England team, I'd be scared of playing either if I were you, you struggle to create chances vs Algeria and Slovenia for god sakes XD

[niko]

Im down for either, the German team is young and lacking the mental edge germany usually has, Ghana is beatable. As a fan of the horrible England team, I'd be scared of playing either if I were you, you struggle to create chances vs Algeria and Slovenia for god sakes XD

BLAH BALH DONT BE HAPPY YOU WON YOU SUCKED BLAH BLAH.

Note: England is ****ed too. You see anything in them that makes you think they are making a run? As talented as they are they are playing like sheet.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Im down for either, the German team is young and lacking the mental edge germany usually has, Ghana is beatable. As a fan of the horrible England team, I'd be scared of playing either if I were you, you struggle to create chances vs Algeria and Slovenia for god sakes XD

:lol ok should have known americans don't know anything about football.

1 week avvy bet that USA don't get past the second round.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

BLAH BALH DONT BE HAPPY YOU WON YOU SUCKED BLAH BLAH.

Note: England is ****ed too. You see anything in them that makes you think they are making a run? As talented as they are they are playing like sheet.

We have great individuals but we aren't a team. I never said we'd win it, everyones going crazy about 2 pieces of luck...

[PAOK]

nice to see soccer get some love in the us

[I am that I am]

:lol ok should have known americans don't know anything about football.

1 week avvy bet that USA don't get past the second round.
So what if we don't we have played great so far and will be matched up against superior opposition no matter who we go against unless Australia miracles their way in.

England is the country in trouble, the possibility of "the world cup favorites" as you guys called your capello lead team before the cup began during qualification run, who struggled vs crap competition now have to face a good team! :O


Losing in the first round when you have no expectations>>>Losing in the first round when you idiots were supposed to be favorites to win it all

[I am that I am]

We have great individuals but we aren't a team. I never said we'd win it, everyones going crazy about 2 pieces of luck...
How was Donovan's goal luck?

Also even if it was, which it wasn't, we have had 2 pieces of unluck, IE 2 goals getting taking away for no reason so they cancel eachother out.


U sad Mr. Second Place? :D

[niko]

We have great individuals but we aren't a team. I never said we'd win it, everyones going crazy about 2 pieces of luck...

We are happy we won the game. When your teams win an important game, if it's some fluke play, do you put your head down and say OH THAT WASNT A GOOD WIN, NEVER MIND. No, you are freaking happy.

People are ****ing ridiculous. We can't enjoy a win because it was this and that and this, oh please. If you win you move on. No one would have shed ONE ****ing tear that we got cheated if we lost. NOT ONE. So since we didnt lose, we are going to enjoy it.

And if you see something wrong with taht you just want to hate so go somewhere else....

[qrich]

We have great individuals but we aren't a team. I never said we'd win it, everyones going crazy about 2 pieces of luck...

Sometimes I'd rather be lucky than good.

[rezznor]

http://i33.tinypic.com/21nnztd.jpg

Kobe's logo on my left shoulder. Kobe's shoe on my right (soon!). Kobe's number on my back. Kobe's wife and kids on my chest with "family" written in cursive underneath.


wow that's almost as bad as zune guy

http://cdn.stereogum.com/img/zune_tattoo2.jpg

[BlackWhiteGreen]

How was Donovan's goal luck?

Also even if it was, which it wasn't, we have had 2 pieces of unluck, IE 2 goals getting taking away for no reason so they cancel eachother out.


U sad Mr. Second Place? :D

Dude, sort it out, it's U MAD??????

See no one is confident enough to take on the bet...

[SALFORD-RED]

:roll: :lol :roll: :oldlol:

What the f@@k must someone be thinking to get the Kobe logo tattooed on him. :wtf: :wtf:

[niko]

:lol ok should have known americans don't know anything about football.

1 week avvy bet that USA don't get past the second round.

you mean the next game?

[I am that I am]

Dude, sort it out, it's U MAD??????

See no one is confident enough to take on the bet...
Ill take a bet for a month that England don't make it to the next round

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Ill take a bet for a month that England don't make it to the next round

The bet is that USA don't make it through the next round, which (niko) is the second round.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

you mean the next game?

yeah.

[niko]

yeah.

im in, ill find you a nice US flag / celebration something and if not, you find me something repping the homeland. :cheers:

[I am that I am]

The bet is that USA don't make it through the next round, which (niko) is the second round.
Afraid to take my bet eh? No faith in the motherland and their

[BlackWhiteGreen]

im in, ill find you a nice US flag / celebration something and if not, you find me something repping the homeland. :cheers:

Seems fair :cheers:

[rezznor]

[QUOTE=I am that I am]Afraid to take my bet eh? No faith in the motherland and their

[BlackWhiteGreen]

[QUOTE=I am that I am]Afraid to take my bet eh? No faith in the motherland and their

[BlackWhiteGreen]

so he is willing to bet against the US advancing which odds are against, but he won't make the same bet for his own team?

... willing to bet on something when the odds are in my favour, who would do that? Outcome is the same either way, its not like I'm making more money off one guy...

[I am that I am]

I'll tell you when I know who we're playing.
Wow way to have no confidence in your team.

Have fun against the Germans XD

[rezznor]

... willing to bet on something when the odds are in my favour, who would do that? Outcome is the same either way, its not like I'm making more money off one guy...
i just find it funny that you are trashing the US team and don't think they will advance when you have no confidence in your own team; who by the way is supposed to be a football powerhouse. :confusedshrug:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

i just find it funny that you are trashing the US team and don't think they will advance when you have no confidence in your own team; who by the way is supposed to be a football powerhouse. :confusedshrug:

I should have confidence in the team who couldn't beat USA or Algeria, and struggled against Slovenia?

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Wow way to have no confidence in your team.

Have fun against the Germans XD

Germany > England. I can say it because I'm not a blind homer... would you prefer it if I was?

[rezznor]

I should have confidence in the team who couldn't beat USA or Algeria, and struggled against Slovenia?
well, that's my point. so why are you trashing USA team?

anyways like you said it's just a friendly avatar bet, no money involved. so why not bet if niko is willing to back the US who has just as little chance as england?

[BlackWhiteGreen]

well, that's my point. so why are you trashing USA team?

anyways like you said it's just a friendly avatar bet, no money involved. so why not bet if niko is willing to back the US who has just as little chance as england?

Why make 2 bets? I don't like losing, whatever it is. It's like, guy X has just jumped off a cliff. Why don't you?

[Fatal9]

England is going to get better the more they play. Just need to sort out some chemistry issues. Rooney is not going to be hitting posts in every match, he's long overdue. Lampard is useless though, and not a fan of Glen Johnson (no defense, mediocre attacking). Regardless...England on their worst day > USA on their best.

[Blue&Orange]

Powerhouse:lol: that won't be happening anytime soon ;)

The population in a nation aint everything in soccer, some countries just suck, not saying US suck here, just saying that US won't be a powerhouse as long as...

Netherlands, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, England is around.

The amount of talents thats coming from those countries are just insane and population is not the only answer believe you me, world class players just seem to pop off from these nations especially.

Has to be genes or something :/
Because soccer is by far the number one sport. The moment you start to walk is the moment you are given a soccer ball, and then as a kid you will play the game everyday...

Population playing the game is everything, in the US it will grown in Europe not so much. So yes, US will have a good team somewhere in the future.

[Fatal9]

What the f@@k must someone be thinking to get the Kobe logo tattooed on him. :wtf: :wtf:
there's a deeper meaning than it being just a logo :confusedshrug:

[Horatio33]

:roll: :lol :roll: :oldlol:

What the f@@k must someone be thinking to get the Kobe logo tattooed on him. :wtf: :wtf:

the worst is the wife and kids rubbish. another persons wife and kids names tattooed on his chest.

[Fatal9]

the worst is the wife and kids rubbish. another persons wife and kids names tattooed on his chest.
how gullible are you :hammerhead:

[Horatio33]

how gullible are you :hammerhead:

nothing would suprise me with you Fatal9, you would defend Kobe to the death if he committed double homicide and was caught on camera doing it.

[Horatio33]

there's a deeper meaning than it being just a logo :confusedshrug:

What's the deeper meaning?

[Younggrease]

there's a deeper meaning than it being just a logo :confusedshrug:

gayest thing ever...you need to get "no homo" tattooed under it pronto.

[rezznor]

What's the deeper meaning?
maybe he lost his v-card to kobe and wanted to commemorate

[Fatal9]

:oldlol: at the USA fans. Brought a reality check to their team, and these dudes have to resort to digging up a clear joke post to take shots (hint: i don't really have a kobe tattoo or any tattoo). Hate to see what they're going to be like when they lose to Ghana of all countries (will surely bump this thread in three days).

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153236&page=12 < already discussed/trolled here :sleeping

[niko]

:oldlol: at the USA fans. Brought a reality check to their team, and these dudes have to resort to digging up a clear joke post to take shots (hint: i don't really have a kobe tattoo or any tattoo). Hate to see what they're going to be like when they lose to Ghana of all countries (will surely bump this thread in three days).

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153236&page=12 < already discussed/trolled here :sleeping

Again, when your team wins, are you not happy? So, when the US wins, we are supposed to say "we are not a soccer power, therefore we are not happy."

You don't act like that when your team wins, but you want us to act like that, which makes you an idiot.

[OG LeeTSkeeT]

USA vs. Ghana

[PAOK]

and Germany vs England

plus a bonus track for our english friends (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Y4vJTtPqw) :lol :lol

[LBJMVP]

lmao. If you weren't against one of the worst offensive teams in the world, the scoring chance Algeria botched to start the break for your miracle goal, would have been put away.

You got dominated by England in game 1, but pulled the luckiest goal of the year.

You were choking away chance after chance (speaks more to the horrible talent of your team than anything) against Algeria and got insanely lucky again, with two minutes left towards elimination.

So yes, you needed two miracles to advance out of the weakest group in the world cup.
Funny thing is, now USA is in the weak upper bracket in the finals stage, so it is not inconceivable that they could pull out another 1-0 lucky win (though I fully expect them to lose). Congrats, this clearly means USA is going to be a dominating force in the future :bowdown:


your probly from france or somthin...

you forgetting we beat number 2 ranked spain in the confederations and almost beat brazil in the same tournament.

usa is ranked in the mid to high teens in world soccer.

refs cost us the slovenia and almost cost us making it the second round this game with the dumb sh*t offsides calls

we almost beat ghana in 06.

are you gonna tell us what country your from cause obviously there are out of the world cup.

[LBJMVP]

England is going to get better the more they play. Just need to sort out some chemistry issues. Rooney is not going to be hitting posts in every match, he's long overdue. Lampard is useless though, and not a fan of Glen Johnson (no defense, mediocre attacking). Regardless...England on their worst day > USA on their best.


USA is just as good as england.

[TheLogo]

USA is just as good as england.

We are definitely just as good.

USA is best in group.

[LBJMVP]

As it stands, you're playing Germany and we're playing Ghana. Who would you rather play...

guess yall are playing germany and we get ghana


SECOND- PLACE SECOND-PLACE SECOND-PLACE

[Seymour Glass]

The US beating Algeria and what should have been a win against Slovenia had nothing to do with luck. Sure, that goal against England was cheap but England still wasn't able to overcome one mistake and beat a team that they are supposedly superior to in every way.

I'd rather have a team that plays hard and overachieves above their talent level than a team that consistently plays below their potential and is dissapoints.

[TheLogo]

I think we can all agree that USA is the best team in Group C.

[LBJMVP]

I think we can all agree that USA is the best team in Group C.

yah its a fact.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I think we can all agree that USA is the best team in Group C.

World rankings, qualification records, and number of WCs won says no.

And I know you're trolling, otherwise you wouldnt have said it twice.

[LBJMVP]

World rankings, qualification records, and number of WCs won says no.

And I know you're trolling, otherwise you wouldnt have said it twice.

can you tell me in order the rankings of the teams in group C?

[Dresta]

England - 8th
USA - 14th
Slovenia - 25th
Algeria - 30th

[I am that I am]

your probly from france or somthin...

you forgetting we beat number 2 ranked spain in the confederations and almost beat brazil in the same tournament.

usa is ranked in the mid to high teens in world soccer.

refs cost us the slovenia and almost cost us making it the second round this game with the dumb sh*t offsides calls

we almost beat ghana in 06.

are you gonna tell us what country your from cause obviously there are out of the world cup.
The clown is from Russia, the country that got knocked out of qualification when they lost to Slovenia in Moscow :D

[I am that I am]

World rankings, qualification records, and number of WCs won says no.

And I know you're trolling, otherwise you wouldnt have said it twice.
The results in group C say yes.

FIFA rankings mean nothing, Czech Republic with 49 year old Pavel Nedved was ranked #2 in the world in 2006 XD

[TheLogo]

World rankings, qualification records, and number of WCs won says no.

And I know you're trolling, otherwise you wouldnt have said it twice.

USA won their group.

[LBJMVP]

England - 8th
USA - 14th
Slovenia - 25th
Algeria - 30th

im talking about

USA - 1st
England -2nd

thats all that matter...

you realize that USA beat spain this last year and almost Brazil

England cant even score on algeria

[Dresta]

im talking about

USA - 1st
England -2nd

thats all that matter...

you realize that USA beat spain this last year and almost Brazil

England cant even score on algeria
Same points same goal difference, a couple games don't mean everything.

[I am that I am]

Same points same goal difference, a couple games don't mean everything.
In the world cup they do, they mean the difference between playing Ghana and playing Germany. If England really were the better team the results would show it.

[Dresta]

The results in group C say yes.

FIFA rankings mean nothing, Czech Republic with 49 year old Pavel Nedved was ranked #2 in the world in 2006 XD
Brazil #1, Spain #2, sounds about right.

[Dresta]

In the world cup they do, they mean the difference between playing Ghana and playing Germany. If England really were the better team the results would show it.
Like Switzerland are better then Spain right, New Zealand are as good as Italy? Please, you're embarrassing yourself.

[Yuki Nagato]

USA won their group.

give'em the trophy already.

[I am that I am]

Like Switzerland are better then Spain right, New Zealand are as good as Italy? Please, you're embarrassing yourself.
You're embarassing yourself hater by exposing yourself as a mindless USA hater. Let me guess, you are from some war torn Yugoslavian nation that USA carpetbombed, correct?

[LBJMVP]

Like Switzerland are better then Spain right, New Zealand are as good as Italy? Please, you're embarrassing yourself.

italy is a really old team now so yah they could be.
fifa ranking dont really mean anything because they are so flawed

according the official world cup bracket. USA >>>>> England

[TheLogo]

Considering that the USA is not a soccer country and to finish ahead of England is an accomplishment.

LOL@ England who's main sport is soccer and the USA just plays it for fun here.

[TheLogo]

italy is a really old team now so yah they could be.
fifa ranking dont really mean anything because they are so flawed

according the official world cup bracket. USA >>>>> England

I agree.

[niko]

No were are not better than England. But we finished ahead of them. And we may yet go further than them. And when we played we tied.

The actual games and their results are the point of all this, no?

[I am that I am]

No were are not better than England. But we finished ahead of them. And we may yet go further than them. And when we played we tied.

The actual games and their results are the point of all this, no?
Individually we are weaker than England at every position except keeper.

As a team USA is much better than England.

[LBJMVP]

No were are not better than England. But we finished ahead of them. And we may yet go further than them. And when we played we tied.

The actual games and their results are the point of all this, no?

i would take altidore, donovan, dempsey, howard, bradley all those guys are considerably good.

all i know from england is rooney and the black guys with like beeded hair.

all that matters is that we have talent and we work great as a team.

can not say the same about englands teamwork
and the last time i checked teamwork means alot.

[I am that I am]

I would take Rooney, Defoe, Wright Phillips, Lampard, Barry, Terry, Ashley Cole and Glen Johnson all day over the USA players, but I wouldnt take them all together as their egos dont allow them to gel as a team

[TheLogo]

England would be much better if Beckham was playing.

They have no teamwork and they don't have heart, which is something the Brits are known for.

[LBJMVP]

I would take Rooney, Defoe, Wright Phillips, Lampard, Barry, Terry, Ashley Cole and Glen Johnson all day over the USA players, but I wouldnt take them all together as their egos dont allow them to gel as a team

amazing teamwork with a spice of talent >>>> talented ego freaks

that is why

USA >>>>>>> England

[Allstar24]

Donovan's goal saved the US team from some major embarrassment...imagine not being able to beat Algeria :oldlol:

[TheLogo]

USA soccer is all about discipline and their training. A lot of times I see teams with more skills and technique but they seem to get tired.

The US team seem to have endurance for days.

I guess since we have the best training facilities in the world, our athletes are physically fit and stronger.

The Olympics are proof of this when foreigners are living and training in the best facilities. It would not surprise me that some english players train here in the States.

[TheLogo]

amazing teamwork with a spice of talent >>>> talented ego freaks

that is why

USA >>>>>>> England

I would disagree with England having more talent. I don't think they do. They are looked upon like rockstars because they play soccer, which is the main sport.

I bet if we send a player from the US squad, they would be instant stars as well.

[LBJMVP]

Donovan's goal saved the US team from some major embarrassment...imagine not being able to beat Algeria :oldlol:

that would have bad
what kind of country that is decent at soccer cant beat algeria
:roll:

[LBJMVP]

I would disagree with England having more talent. I don't think they do. They are looked upon like rockstars because they play soccer, which is the main sport.

I bet if we send a player from the US squad, they would be instant stars as well.

i just saying that cause i dont know anyone on egland except rooney.

i always that we had a pretty talented team.

altidore is one of the fastest guys in south africa

[TheLogo]

that would have bad
what kind of country that is decent at soccer cant beat algeria
:roll:

England couldn't beat Algeria.

[I am that I am]

Brazilians, Italians and Germans also have this focus on fitness. They are always more physically prepared than other teams in the tournament and have the advantage in stamina.

They happen to have a ton of world cups as well.

I dont understand why other nations don't understand that fitness is a huge part of the game-ENGLAND FOR EXAMPLE, Rooney is praised like no other for his amazing fitness endurance and work rate, but Germany and Brazil and Italy, USA as well but they don't belong in the same conversation as football giants, every player has fitness like that

[LBJMVP]

England couldn't beat Algeria.

exactly

:roll:

[I am that I am]

I would disagree with England having more talent. I don't think they do. They are looked upon like rockstars because they play soccer, which is the main sport.

I bet if we send a player from the US squad, they would be instant stars as well.
No dude. They have a ton of talent. Guys like Rooney and Lampard are superstars on their club teams, and Ashley Cole is the best left back in the world.

Donovan did great in England but he wasn't close to the best player in the EPL and Howard is a good goalie but our other guys like Altidore have flopped.

Dempsey is a starter and a good player but not comparable to English guys like Adam Johnson.

Rooney is amazing, he is just choking it from too much pressure and expectation this world cup.

[LBJMVP]

Brazilians, Italians and Germans also have this focus on fitness. They are always more physically prepared than other teams in the tournament and have the advantage in stamina.

They happen to have a ton of world cups as well.

I dont understand why other nations don't understand that fitness is a huge part of the game-ENGLAND FOR EXAMPLE, Rooney is praised like no other for his amazing fitness endurance and work rate, but Germany and Brazil and Italy, USA as well but they don't belong in the same conversation as football giants, every player has fitness like that

USA is like the OKC of soccer.
we are as great as the other teams but we are pretty good, and we can upset any team.

remember we almost won the confederations cup.

plus USA soccer team = clutcher than kobe

[I am that I am]

USA is like the OKC of soccer.
we are as great as the other teams but we are pretty good, and we can upset any team.

remember we almost won the confederations cup.

plus USA soccer team = clutcher than kobe
OKC has a ton of raw talent, I'd compare us more to the Utah Jazz, hardworking, always matched up against more talented teams but we can compete with anyone and beat any team in the league on our day with hard work, discipline good tactics and clutchness and self belief that we have from watching movies like D2 the mighty ducks and The Miracle while growing up.

[LBJMVP]

OKC has a ton of raw talent, I'd compare us more to the Utah Jazz, hardworking, always matched up against more talented teams but we can compete with anyone and beat any team in the league on our day with hard work, discipline good tactics and clutchness and self belief that we have from watching movies like D2 the mighty ducks and The Miracle while growing up.

i can definetaly agree with that.

[TheLogo]

I would have to agree with Americans being clutch.

Not just in sports but in life, when it's going get tough, we are clutch.

Look at France for example, not clutch at all, in sports or life.

[niko]

Whats wrong with you people? WE can't enjoy a big victory that came in miraculous fashion? Are you really all such douches to keep posting "NO NO DONT ENJOY IT TOO MUCH"

Guess what. IM WATCHING IT AGAIN. IT WAS TOTALLY ****ING FUN. And the fact we dont play as well as england doesnt bother me one little bit.

[LBJMVP]

I would have to agree with Americans being clutch.

Not just in sports but in life, when it's going get tough, we are clutch.

Look at France for example, not clutch at all, in sports or life.

all i know is if

englands game vs germany is anything like WW2
then they are screwed.

[ZenMaster]

I would have to agree with Americans being clutch.

Not just in sports but in life, when it's going get tough, we are clutch.

Look at France for example, not clutch at all, in sports or life.


Really? France is one of the most successful soccer teams in the last 12 years.

[I am that I am]

Yeh, that's because French grow up watching depressing films like Les Miserables and Hunchback of Notre Dame that just show you how hopeless the world is, that is the case with alot of European nations, 99% of sports is about self belief, USA has it for some reason despite not having the talent to back it up and England doesn't even they have some of the best players in the world.

Maybe it's because Americans are always told that Americans are the best at everything, and subconsciously we all start to believe that.


This Bradley guy though has improved so much. Maybe it is just because of the competition but he looked great vs the English midfield as well, so composed on the ball and makes great decisions and is clutch with his attacking runs into the box and great composure to score clutch goals.

He keeps this up next game and he's earned a move to a bigger club I'd say.

[I am that I am]

Really? France is one of the most successful soccer teams in the last 12 years.
That's because they used to have God playing for them.

[ZenMaster]

I would disagree with England having more talent. I don't think they do. They are looked upon like rockstars because they play soccer, which is the main sport.

I bet if we send a player from the US squad, they would be instant stars as well.


They would be instant stars? You have to be kidding.

As much as I dislike the team Rooney plays for you have to give him his credit, he's been playing in the Premier League since he was 16, won it 3 times along with a Champions League victory as well.

It will be another 20 years until and American player has the capabilities to do these kinds of things.

[Dresta]

I would disagree with England having more talent. I don't think they do. They are looked upon like rockstars because they play soccer, which is the main sport.

I bet if we send a player from the US squad, they would be instant stars as well.
hahaha, you have to be kidding me, the USA don't have a single player that would even make the England squad.

[ZenMaster]

That's because they used to have God playing for them.

Yeah good teams have good players, that's usually how it works.

[TheLogo]

If we were to talk teamwork and physical fitness the Americans are the best.

Beat Spain and was leading for an entire game against Brazil till hell broke loose. During those two games the Americans outran and hustled harder than those two teams and those two were considered the best in the world.

USA has the best goalies in the world too and I don't know why other nations won't develop a good goalie. I think the world doesn't want to see USA succeed because we have found the solution to the game of soccer/football and that is teamwork, physical fitness and a good goalie, forget the rest.

[Dresta]

You're embarassing yourself hater by exposing yourself as a mindless USA hater. Let me guess, you are from some war torn Yugoslavian nation that USA carpetbombed, correct?
The USA never carpetbombed any of Eastern Europe, so you're talking out of your ass my friend.

[TheLogo]

Yeah good teams have good players, that's usually how it works.

Zidane is a soccer god....he was the sole reason why France were runner ups.

Then when the going gets tough....Zidane wasn't clutch and failed.

[TheLogo]

hahaha, you have to be kidding me, the USA don't have a single player that would even make the England squad.

Tim Howard.

[ZenMaster]

If we were to talk teamwork and physical fitness the Americans are the best.

Beat Spain and was leading for an entire game against Brazil till hell broke loose. During those two games the Americans outran and hustled harder than those two teams and those two were considered the best in the world.

USA has the best goalies in the world too and I don't know why other nations won't develop a good goalie. I think the world doesn't want to see USA succeed because we have found the solution to the game of soccer/football and that is teamwork, physical fitness and a good goalie, forget the rest.

Yeah Switzerland also beat Spain in the first round of the WC, shit happens.

The best goalies, really? You have a few that are good, but they're not the best in the world. Plenty of other nations develops good goalies.
I mean, the Kansas City Wizards signed a guy from our 2nd division and he was the #1 goalie for Kansas.
Don't kid yourself, the MLS is still trash and always will be because the best players will have to go to Europe to develop and make good money.

[TheLogo]

The World Cup showcases the best players in the world.

Right now, Howard is the best goalie in the cup which translates to one of the best in the world.

All the USA goalies on the national team can play for any nation.

[ZenMaster]

Zidane is a soccer god....he was the sole reason why France were runner ups.

Then when the going gets tough....Zidane wasn't clutch and failed.

haha, Zidane scored 2 goals vs Brazil in the WC finals in 98, that's clutch.
In the Euros in 2000 he scored 2 goals vs Spain in the quarter finals, and scored the golden goal vs Portugal in the semis, that's clutch.

He was injured in 2002.

In 2004 he scored 2 goals in overtime in the first game vs England for a 2-1 win, that's clutch.

He also scored the final penalty kick in the semis in 2006 to reach the final, again clutch.

[TheLogo]

Headbutt = Failed.

[ZenMaster]

The World Cup showcases the best players in the world.

Right now, Howard is the best goalie in the cup which translates to one of the best in the world.

All the USA goalies on the national team can play for any nation.


Who says he's the best goalie in the tournament so far?

And there's more to deciding the best goal keeper in the world than 3 games, and no the US goalies couldn't play for any nation.

[bada bing]

Zidane is a soccer god....he was the sole reason why France were runner ups.

Then when the going gets tough....Zidane wasn't clutch and failed.

okay man just STFU. I was with you on the whole argument until you made that stupid comment about Zidane. I guess you have only seen one game of Zidane? otherwise you would never make such a bs comment.

[ZenMaster]

Headbutt = Failed.

That's all you got?

Edit: Yeah that was all you got.

[TheLogo]

The momentum is on USA's side and I am hoping everyone here is as excited as I am.

What a great moment and World Cup for the Americans.

We are the underdogs and we just won our Group. Best in group as we speak.

ole ole USA!

[Yuki Nagato]

Arguing with americans who only watch the freaking world cup and nothing else.

england miss beckham
usa has more talent than england
any american player could be it in the england squad
french was good ONLY because they have zidane

and so on, my god, I've never read so ignorant "opinions" in my life. Please, stick with american football, please. I wonder if some of you are serious or what.

[TheLogo]

Most International Goals from Group C from US and ENG:

Donovan - 44

Gerrard - 17

Becks - 17

Rooney - 25



Like I said, Donovan can play for the English squad and produce. The numbers don't lie. As you can see Donovan scored more goals than Rooney and Gerrard combined. These are the so-called english stars?

[ZenMaster]

Most International Goals from Group C from US and ENG:

Donovan - 44

Gerrard - 17

Becks - 17

Rooney - 25



Like I said, Donovan can play for the English squad and produce. The numbers don't lie. As you can see Donovan scored more goals than Rooney and Gerrard combined. These are the so-called english stars?

Couldn't you have found some numbers that are more skewed?

I mean the US qualifies through CONCACAF.

[Yuki Nagato]

Most International Goals from Group C from US and ENG:

Donovan - 44

Gerrard - 17

Becks - 17

Rooney - 25



Like I said, Donovan can play for the English squad and produce. The numbers don't lie. As you can see Donovan scored more goals than Rooney and Gerrard combined. These are the so-called english stars?

Because donovan have played much more games than them? because gerrard is a distributor? because rooney is only 24? because becks is overrated? because you have the soccer knowledge of a retard?

This is the equivalent of a asian dude saying that vince carter is the best NBA player today. Please, stop embarrasing yourself, don't mix patriotism with supreme ignorance about the game.

[Hawker]

You know what would be a miracle? Fatal9 posting something intelligent.

[Hawker]

Sorry, but that was a miracle. Come on the best goalie in England *dropped the friggin ball.* I played goalie in gradeschool for a few years and that never happened to me. I never let a shot that easy go, once. I was not a great goalie but that slipup was mind-boggling.

But that's the thing about soccer. Flukes are *part of the game.* And as such, there are no flukes in soccer. Human referees are part of the game, especially.

A goalie dropping the f*cking ball into his own net, though, especially that shot as it was not particularly hard, is about as close as it gets to a fluke in soccer. In professional, world-class level soccer. In kids' soccer leagues you can expect that kind of thing. But that's the equivalent of Ray Allen missing 2 at the line down 1 with 5 seconds left. It should have been a loss. Walking away you have to acknowledge how lucky you just got and that really, you were outplayed and shouldn't have won.

So we're lucky that the English goalie had a slip up.

Got it.

England was lucky that Ricardo Clark sucks at soccer and had a slip up and left Gerrard wide open.

Looks like we're even now.

You have to give credit to Dempsey for shooting it.

And no, we weren't outplayed. The game was pretty level and a tie reflected the game pretty well in my opinion.

[foxy371]

All of you americans are retarded i swear!
none of your players could play in the england squad except tim howard...he would be a good backup!
For everyone saying landon donovan would make the england squad and that he is a better striker than the likes of rooney and gerrard are also retarded! Donovan isn't even the best player for Everton...he is an average player in the premier league!
I know you will all say im a hater etc etc but you american fans annoy me so much, you think that because you came top of group C you will now be world cup champions...you guys got so lucky to beat england...and nearly choked against algeria in a must win game!
you guys are by far the most annoyingest fanbase nation in the World!
I hope you get demolished by Ghana so that all you 'fans' that came from nowhere until you started winning a couple games last year can pipe down and stop being so cocky.

[TheLogo]

...and nearly choked against algeria in a must win game!


You mean the team USA beat and England couldn't?

[Hawker]

World rankings, qualification records, and number of WCs won says no.

And I know you're trolling, otherwise you wouldnt have said it twice.

Goals scored says differently. LOL @ bringing up a WC win from 40 years ago.

[foxy371]

You mean the team USA beat and England couldn't?

we werent in a must win situation...when we needed to win we took care of business

[Abd El-Krim]

All of you americans are retarded i swear!
none of your players could play in the england squad except tim howard...he would be a good backup!
For everyone saying landon donovan would make the england squad and that he is a better striker than the likes of rooney and gerrard are also retarded! Donovan isn't even the best player for Everton...he is an average player in the premier league!
I know you will all say im a hater etc etc but you american fans annoy me so much, you think that because you came top of group C you will now be world cup champions...you guys got so lucky to beat england...and nearly choked against algeria in a must win game!
you guys are by far the most annoyingest fanbase nation in the World!
I hope you get demolished by Ghana so that all you 'fans' that came from nowhere until you started winning a couple games last year can pipe down and stop being so cocky.

You suck. So does Ricky Hatton. Eat a d!ck.

[foxy371]

You suck. So does Ricky Hatton. Eat a d!ck.

witty reply....nice 1

[Fatal9]

All of you americans are retarded i swear!
none of your players could play in the england squad except tim howard...he would be a good backup!
For everyone saying landon donovan would make the england squad and that he is a better striker than the likes of rooney and gerrard are also retarded! Donovan isn't even the best player for Everton...he is an average player in the premier league!
I know you will all say im a hater etc etc but you american fans annoy me so much, you think that because you came top of group C you will now be world cup champions...you guys got so lucky to beat england...and nearly choked against algeria in a must win game!
you guys are by far the most annoyingest fanbase nation in the World!
I hope you get demolished by Ghana so that all you 'fans' that came from nowhere until you started winning a couple games last year can pipe down and stop being so cocky.
This.

These American clowns in here acting like they are the future of "soccer" because they beat Algeria in extra time. WTF, seriously.

[Hawker]

hahaha, you have to be kidding me, the USA don't have a single player that would even make the England squad.

Tim Howard.

[TheLogo]

..when we needed to win we took care of business

so did the Americans.

[TheLogo]

This.

These American clowns in here acting like they are the future of "soccer" because they beat Algeria in extra time. WTF, seriously.

We are not acting like we are the future of soccer.

We are happy because we are the best of our Group, it is the entire body of work, not just one game.

Like I said, best of the group.

[Hawker]

All of you americans are retarded i swear!
none of your players could play in the england squad except tim howard...he would be a good backup!
For everyone saying landon donovan would make the england squad and that he is a better striker than the likes of rooney and gerrard are also retarded! Donovan isn't even the best player for Everton...he is an average player in the premier league!
I know you will all say im a hater etc etc but you american fans annoy me so much, you think that because you came top of group C you will now be world cup champions...you guys got so lucky to beat england...and nearly choked against algeria in a must win game!
you guys are by far the most annoyingest fanbase nation in the World!
I hope you get demolished by Ghana so that all you 'fans' that came from nowhere until you started winning a couple games last year can pipe down and stop being so cocky.

lol Tim Howard would start for England.

So typical of europeans really. They trash the USA national soccer team saying they'll never be good and then when we finally start playing well despite the refs being against us and finish as the best team in the group, we can't be proud and brag about our team? We can't say we definitely deserve it?

Take a look in the ****ing mirror. Euros are some of the biggest bitch made ******* out there.

[Hawker]

we werent in a must win situation...when we needed to win we took care of business

And so did we. End of story.

[Hawker]

A lot of the american players wouldn't make the England squad. Time Howard would be the only player starting on the squad. You're right.

Good thing a team doesn't win based on how good its individual players are. A team wins by playing as a team. USA has enough talent to do that and play well. They know their roles and they aren't cocky. They play with pride and play the right way. They don't dive. They don't complain. They just keep on keeping on. That attitude made them the best team in Group C. And it can take them farther.

[TheLogo]

A lot of the american players wouldn't make the England squad. Time Howard would be the only player starting on the squad. You're right.

Good thing a team doesn't win based on how good its individual players are. A team wins by playing as a team. USA has enough talent to do that and play well. They know their roles and they aren't cocky. They play with pride and play the right way. They don't dive. They don't complain. They just keep on keeping on. That attitude made them the best team in Group C. And it can take them farther.

Very true.

Americans don't take dives in soccer.

I enjoy our toughness.

[ZenMaster]

Very true.

Americans don't take dives in soccer.

I enjoy our toughness.


And you should, the US team is doing good as a team.

But please don't make it lead you to believe you know anything about soccer on an international level. A lot of your points in this thread is so far off it and it's so obvious you have only been following the game for a short period of time.

[CasterL]

America have played very well in the group stages, and they deserved the win today, they had the majority of the chances. Wheras we have played shockingly. Our game against algeria was one of the most frustrating things I have ever watched. We could have done with a bigger statment win today to get confidence up and the team playing like they should, but we did look very good in streches. I really hope we can get it going now and play to our potential which in truth should be one of the best teams in the world. However we have a history of underacheiving so i am not so sure.

Some of the shit being spewed in this thread is shameful. If anyone seriously thinks that a player like donovan is on Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard etc level they are really displaying dismal knowledge of football. Donovan is a good player but be serious. The talent disparity is pretty big.

Having said that America have displayed better cohesion as a group and thus have been able to acheieve much more of their potetial than us. Credit to their teamwork and heart.

[Fatal9]

Most International Goals from Group C from US and ENG:

Donovan - 44

Gerrard - 17

Becks - 17

Rooney - 25



Like I said, Donovan can play for the English squad and produce. The numbers don't lie. As you can see Donovan scored more goals than Rooney and Gerrard combined. These are the so-called english stars?
Wow.

[Hawker]

America have played very well in the group stages, and they deserved the win today, they had the majority of the chances. Wheras we have played shockingly. Our game against algeria was one of the most frustrating things I have ever watched. We could have done with a bigger statment win today to get confidence up and the team playing like they should, but we did look very good in streches. I really hope we can get it going now and play to our potential which in truth should be one of the best teams in the world. However we have a history of underacheiving so i am not so sure.

Some of the shit being spewed in this thread is shameful. If anyone seriously thinks that a player like donovan is on Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard etc level they are really displaying dismal knowledge of football. Donovan is a good player but be serious. The talent disparity is pretty big.

Having said that America have displayed better cohesion as a group and thus have been able to acheieve much more of their potetial than us. Credit to their teamwork and heart.

100% agree with all this.

I'm very glad England made it out of the group. Very glad they were 2nd. :lol

They're my 2nd favorite team

[foxy371]

A lot of the american players wouldn't make the England squad. Time Howard would be the only player starting on the squad. You're right.

Good thing a team doesn't win based on how good its individual players are. A team wins by playing as a team. USA has enough talent to do that and play well. They know their roles and they aren't cocky. They play with pride and play the right way. They don't dive. They don't complain. They just keep on keeping on. That attitude made them the best team in Group C. And it can take them farther.

i dont dislike the usa team....i actually like the team and like there togetherness but i just cant stand the fans...there are very few american fans out there that know anything about the game...they dont have the superstars like wayne and ashley etc but they still play good....but because they are playing good you have fans saying donovan is better than rooney...spain are crap because usa beat them one time last year...its just stupidity and cockyness and it annoys me so much!
I'm from england, our team has played like garbage...but somehow we are still in it...if we were to beat germany i wouldnt gloat in everybodys face...if we won the world cup i wouldnt rub it in...but you american fans won group C and are parading and saying england are rubbish...we can beat spain and brazil etc etc its very frustrating to read.

[TheLogo]

America have played very well in the group stages, and they deserved the win today, they had the majority of the chances. Wheras we have played shockingly. Our game against algeria was one of the most frustrating things I have ever watched. We could have done with a bigger statment win today to get confidence up and the team playing like they should, but we did look very good in streches. I really hope we can get it going now and play to our potential which in truth should be one of the best teams in the world. However we have a history of underacheiving so i am not so sure.

Some of the shit being spewed in this thread is shameful. If anyone seriously thinks that a player like donovan is on Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard etc level they are really displaying dismal knowledge of football. Donovan is a good player but be serious. The talent disparity is pretty big.

Having said that America have displayed better cohesion as a group and thus have been able to acheieve much more of their potetial than us. Credit to their teamwork and heart.

It is a matter of opinion when you say Rooney or Gerrard are better than Donovan, like what I said about Donovan as well.

It's common knowledge, if you are a true soccer fan, Donovan has scored more goals than both combined and more important to his respective team than those two.

[bucks_ole]

Honestly, there is wayyyy too much hate for American soccer. No sh*t we're not on the level of the premier countries, where soccer is BY FAR the top sport. For being a third/fourth tier sport in our country, however, we're good as hell. I mean, if all people in the states were completely focused on training for soccer and nothing else, we could possibly revolutionize the entire game. There are so many huge, strong, fast, and talented professional athletes in football, basketball, and other sports that would completely change the demographic of the game. I know this kind of a blanket "what if" statement, but seeing as the US has the best sprinters(besides Bolt and Powell), basketball, and American football players, I can't imagine that if everyone trained for soccer and only soccer, we wouldn't be at the top in that too.

I just get really pissed when people straight up hate on US soccer, because it's just a biased and honestly, ignorant viewpoint. I don't hate on European basketball and say they're garbage, it's just that all the best players come here to play, just like with soccer players going to Europe. Specialization, folks, it's not that hard to understand. Soccer is NOT the sport of the United States, but we still are pretty good at it.

[Yuki Nagato]

It is a matter of opinion when you say Rooney or Gerrard are better than Donovan, like what I said about Donovan as well.

It's common knowledge, if you are a true soccer fan, Donovan has scored more goals than both combined and more important to his respective team than those two.

:facepalm:

[ZenMaster]

It is a matter of opinion when you say Rooney or Gerrard are better than Donovan, like what I said about Donovan as well.

It's common knowledge, if you are a true soccer fan, Donovan has scored more goals than both combined and more important to his respective team than those two.

You must be trolling, you have to be! Please tell me you're trolling!?

[Yuki Nagato]

You must be trolling, you have to be! Please tell me you're trolling!?

nah, everyone knows that monta ellis is better than dwight howard. He just score more points!

[beer]

You must be trolling, you have to be! Please tell me you're trolling!?

If he isn't, I'm leaving this forum.

[Hawker]

It is a matter of opinion when you say Rooney or Gerrard are better than Donovan, like what I said about Donovan as well.

It's common knowledge, if you are a true soccer fan, Donovan has scored more goals than both combined and more important to his respective team than those two.

Hey man, I love USA and all and love your support but Donovan isn't on Gerrard or Rooney level. We play mainly in concacaf which is easier than the European qualification. Doesn't mean we couldn't qualify in European group either. We could.

I will say that the ones we're arguing against are underrating Donovan. He's the reason why Everton was relevant in the EPL even if it was only for that loan. Donovan would be all starting all-tournament team right now as well.

[Hawker]

You must be trolling, you have to be! Please tell me you're trolling!?

In his defense, Rooney's been shite for England.

[ZenMaster]

Honestly, there is wayyyy too much hate for American soccer. No sh*t we're not on the level of the premier countries, where soccer is BY FAR the top sport. For being a third/fourth tier sport in our country, however, we're good as hell. I mean, if all people in the states were completely focused on training for soccer and nothing else, we could possibly revolutionize the entire game. There are so many huge, strong, fast, and talented professional athletes in football, basketball, and other sports that would completely change the demographic of the game. I know this kind of a blanket "what if" statement, but seeing as the US has the best sprinters(besides Bolt and Powell), basketball, and American football players, I can't imagine that if everyone trained for soccer and only soccer, we wouldn't be at the top in that too.

I just get really pissed when people straight up hate on US soccer, because it's just a biased and honestly, ignorant viewpoint. I don't hate on European basketball and say they're garbage, it's just that all the best players come here to play, just like with soccer players going to Europe. Specialization, folks, it's not that hard to understand. Soccer is NOT the sport of the United States, but we still are pretty good at it.

I agree the US can be the best at any sport they "choose" to. But like you say it's a what if scenario and pretty useless.

And maybe YOU don't hate on European basketball, but 9/10 Americans do. Check any thread in here that in some way concerns the level of European basketball and you'll see comments like "Shitty league if Langdon has won MVP", "Spanish national starters are only bench scrubs in the NBA" and on and on and on...

I do believe that the best international basketball players are better basketball players than the best US soccer players are at soccer.

[ZenMaster]

In his defense, Rooney's been shite for England.

Yeah but you can't only evaluate players over from 3 games. Rooney has been one of the 3 best offensive soccer players in the world this year.

[Hawker]

Yeah but you can't only evaluate players over from 3 games. Rooney has been one of the 3 best offensive soccer players in the world this year.

He hasn't scored for England in the past 6-7 games or something like that.

[ZenMaster]

Hey man, I love USA and all and love your support but Donovan isn't on Gerrard or Rooney level. We play mainly in concacaf which is easier than the European qualification. Doesn't mean we couldn't qualify in European group either. We could.

I will say that the ones we're arguing against are underrating Donovan. He's the reason why Everton was relevant in the EPL even if it was only for that loan. Donovan would be all starting all-tournament team right now as well.

Donovan is a decent player, but Everton has not been relevant in the EPL this year.

[CasterL]

It is a matter of opinion when you say Rooney or Gerrard are better than Donovan, like what I said about Donovan as well.

http://www.memedepot.com/uploads/0/207_not_sure_if_serious.jpg

[ZenMaster]

He hasn't scored for England in the past 6-7 games or something like that.

There's more to soccer than international games you know..