England v Germany June 24 world cup game thread

[Fatal9]

lol @ anyone not realizing the difference in psychology when it's 2-2 or when you are chasing in the second half 2-1, especially against a great counter attacking team like Germany. You wait four years only to have shit like that happen at this stage. Defending was shocking, any team could have looked great against England tonight. That's all that really needs to be said. Looked like they gave up at 3-1 anyways.

Germany* vs. Argentina should be a good game.

[Knuck the Ficks]

lol @ Germany being the favorites. Looking at the last two games, England has looked slightly better than Germany and have been improving by the match. If there is a favorite, it is England slightly. Their defense has been awful in the last two games, and I'm not sure how they will do up front. Schweinsteiger is unfit or not even playing, Ozil is good, Klose has sucked this year and Terry will give him problems, Podolski is meh and even Glen Johnson should have no trouble containing him. I'd place England as the 60/40 favorites, and that's only because I can see them choking on the penalties or Cole and Johnson making a stupid defensive mistake. I'm not that worried for some reason, not really scared of anyone on Germany.

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[Nanners]

lol @ anyone not realizing the difference in psychology when it's 2-2 or when you are chasing in the second half 2-1, especially against a great counter attacking team like Germany. You wait four years only to have shit like that happen at this stage. Defending was shocking, any team could have looked great against England tonight. That's all that really needs to be said. Looked like they gave up at 3-1 anyways.

Germany* vs. Argentina should be a good game.

lol @ frontrunner fanboy crying because his team lost :roll:

u mad?

[bballer]

:oldlol:

[Knuck the Ficks]

Defending was shocking
The attack was pretty shocking as well.

It's amazing how players who earn that much money can't seem to string together three quick passes.

Other than attack and defense England were pretty good though :oldlol:

[madmax]

Damn, I just love those watching that disciplined and methodical german team dismantling huge salaries and egos on the pitch:roll: :D Their teamplay and athleticism are on another level compared to fat and slow english scrubs - you can't win in modern football playing like that, this result was NID:rockon: And that dissalowed goal didn't change anything by the way

[playtetris]

germany outplayed england easily, i don't know what game some of you guys were watching. ozil, muller, klose, schweinsteiger, podolski all put together great performances and thoroughly outplayed their opposition. germany's passing looked crisper and more purposeful, and their play on the counter was masterful, particularly in the first half.

england didn't impress. rooney was a no show, lampard had a decent game and seemed to have mastered the long shot with the beachball, gerrard was largely ineffectual... their defence was... i'm not even going to touch that shit with an 80 foot pole.

[DeuceWallaces]

lol @ anyone not realizing the difference in psychology when it's 2-2 or when you are chasing in the second half 2-1, especially against a great counter attacking team like Germany. You wait four years only to have shit like that happen at this stage. Defending was shocking, any team could have looked great against England tonight. That's all that really needs to be said. Looked like they gave up at 3-1 anyways.

Germany* vs. Argentina should be a good game.

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[Fatal9]

I just felt cheated out of a great game. Germany* did nothing in the second half other than take advantage of England defenders being up the pitch by counter attacking. Haters will fail to realize how much the disallowed goal changed the game. You know the world cup has turned into a joke when in 20freaking10 you can't even award a goal with the ball two fkking yards past the goal line, and everyone in the stadium witnessing it. Germans* aren't anything special, and we'll see that in the next round. They are fun to watch, but the English defenders made them look better than they really are.

[LJJ]

Why the hell can't Muller play like this for Bayern? He plays like a complete tool for Bayern, but for Germany? He's awesome.

He's like that for Bayern too. He just had a poor Champions League performance.

[DaniloGallinari]

I just felt cheated out of a great game. Germany did nothing in the second half other than take advantage of England defenders being up the pitch by counter attacking. Haters will fail to realize how much the disallowed goal changed the game. You know the world cup has turned into a joke when you can't even award a goal with the ball two fkking yards past the goal line, and everyone in the stadium witnessing it. Germans aren't anything special, and we'll see that in the next round. They are fun to watch, but the English defenders made them look better than they really are.

lol

Still crying about it.

[AirJordan23]

Germany outplayed England and there's no question about that. Great on the counterattack but there were stretches where they showed their youth and inexperience. Had some mental mistakes but were more than solid for the most part. First goal was clearly due to the horrific and lackluster defense by England. There was some great passing and movement on the second goal. I thought David James was terrible along with the England defense. England had a nice little run after they were down 2-0 (Gerrard's cross was great and pinpoint) and obviously they were unlucky with the disallowed goal. I think they would have been mentally stronger and motivated had the goal been allowed. It was like a major setback. But, overall they were outplayed. No question about that. Germany just wanted it more and their execution was excellent.

[Nanners]

I just felt cheated out of a great game. Germany* did nothing in the second half other than take advantage of England defenders being up the pitch by counter attacking. Haters will fail to realize how much the disallowed goal changed the game. You know the world cup has turned into a joke when in 20freaking10 you can't even award a goal with the ball two fkking yards past the goal line, and everyone in the stadium witnessing it. Germans* aren't anything special, and we'll see that in the next round. They are fun to watch, but the English defenders made them look better than they really are.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

you felt cheated :violin:



but i think u mad

[AirJordan23]

I just felt cheated out of a great game. Germany* did nothing in the second half other than take advantage of England defenders being up the pitch by counter attacking. Haters will fail to realize how much the disallowed goal changed the game. You know the world cup has turned into a joke when in 20freaking10 you can't even award a goal with the ball two fkking yards past the goal line, and everyone in the stadium witnessing it. Germans* aren't anything special, and we'll see that in the next round. They are fun to watch, but the English defenders made them look better than they really are.
http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/29359/original/u-mad.jpg

[Andrei89]

lol @ frontrunner fanboy crying because his team lost :roll:

u mad?

There is no fanboys in the wrold cup

OMG

They are supporting they country, they not like KObe stans around these forums. It's a serious buziness

[Fatal9]

People REALLY think Terry and rest of the defenders would all be so far up on a free kick if it was 2-2? :confusedshrug:

[Nanners]

People REALLY think Terry and rest of the defenders would all be so far up on a free kick if it was 2-2? :confusedshrug:

I REALLY think its hilarious to see a front running f4ggot like yourself crying for an hour after his overrated team gets trounced :roll:

[Fatal9]

I was "front running" by cheering for England? Especially after their pathetic group performance? You're an idiot.

[Nanners]

I was "front running" by cheering for England? Especially after their pathetic group performance? You're an idiot.

You are the definition of a front runner. Now keep crying, your tears are quite refreshing.

[LBJMVP]

lol @ anyone not realizing the difference in psychology when it's 2-2 or when you are chasing in the second half 2-1, especially against a great counter attacking team like Germany. You wait four years only to have shit like that happen at this stage. Defending was shocking, any team could have looked great against England tonight. That's all that really needs to be said. Looked like they gave up at 3-1 anyways.

Germany* vs. Argentina should be a good game.


this is true... when you get a goal taken from you. it hurts morale.
all of us in the usa were complaining when we had a goal taken in slovenia.
and to wait four years just to see that happen. i would be pissed.

[Andrei89]

In the end England got beta by german and USA by GHANA:lol

Go home tnx

[hookul]

People REALLY think Terry and rest of the defenders would all be so far up on a free kick if it was 2-2? :confusedshrug:

Dude, after the game, the english experts at BBC (Shearer, Lineker, Hansen) did not blame the loss it on the dissallowed goal but instead said things like (paraphrasing):

"This play of this english team was a disgrace, big words before the game but nothing to show for it"
"England was unbelievable bad, I dont know where to start"
"We got lucky to only get 4 goals, it could have been a lot more"
etc.,etc.

So stop whining about a very bad call that did not change the fact that england was just the worse team today and lost due to germany just being the much better team.

[Fatal9]

Asked whether the missed goal changed the game, Capello said: "It was one of the most important things in the game.

"The goal was very important. We could have played a different style.

"We played I think well at 2-1, but after the third goal it was a little bit disappointing.

"We played well. Germany is a big team. They played a good game. We made some mistakes when they played the counter-attack. The referee made bigger mistakes. Little things decide the result always."

[EarlTheGoat]

Like I said, the disallowed goal was a huge factor. But its not like England was outplaying Germany or deserving to win the game.

[hookul]

Asked whether the missed goal changed the game, Capello said: "It was one of the most important things in the game.

"The goal was very important. We could have played a different style.

"We played I think well at 2-1, but after the third goal it was a little bit disappointing.

"We played well. Germany is a big team. They played a good game. We made some mistakes when they played the counter-attack. The referee made bigger mistakes. Little things decide the result always."

Yeah, I guess if you agree with an Italian about a fair and objective comment judgement of a game than you really have problems in your argument.
I heard the same interview and couldnt believe that he said that they played well. This is a joke and EVERY, EVERY english commentator or ex-legend on the english TV channels agreed that England played a bad game (see above from Lineker, Shearer, BBC commentators). Capello is a whiny dick in denial that he did not manage to get a good team together that even played one game in the whole WC that made them look like legimate title contenders.

[hookul]

Like I said, the disallowed goal was a huge factor. But its not like England was outplaying Germany or deserving to win the game.

this.

Of course it was a factor. But stop acting like it looked as if England was ever in the game or it looked like England was close to winning.

[zizozain]

England's Goal Which Wasn't A Goal; Or: 1966 Karma

The Most Underachieving Team Ever

[EarlTheGoat]

this.

Of course it was a factor. But stop acting like it looked as if England was ever in the game or it looked like England was close to winning.

When did I say that? Did I give you the impression of that? Because of course thats wrong.

Germany was probably dominating the tempo of the game and the ball, but England was having their opportunities too, like a 55-45 thing. In the end, if that goal was allowed it would have probably been an even more exciting game.

[hookul]

When did I say that? Did I give you the impression of that? Because of course thats wrong.

Germany was probably dominating the tempo of the game and the ball, but England was having their opportunities too, like a 55-45 thing. In the end, if that goal was allowed it would have probably been an even more exciting game.

sorry that was meant for Fatal of course, not for you. Btw, the ball control was 51 to 49% according to FIFA but I cannot believe this is even mentioned in a football discussion. As if a few % more ballcontrol is any indicator who has been a better team. One can take this statistical shit into the NBA forum and use it to discuss with 14-year-olds. But please not for football.

[Jailblazers7]

Germany looks good going forward. Who will they get next, the winner of Spain/Portugal?

[Nanners]

Germany looks good going forward. Who will they get next, the winner of Spain/Portugal?

they get argentina/mexico

[EarlTheGoat]

sorry that was meant for Fatal of course, not for you. Btw, the ball control was 51 to 49% according to FIFA but I cannot believe this is even mentioned in a football discussion. As if a few % more ballcontrol is any indicator who has been a better team. One can take this statistical shit into the NBA forum and use it to discuss with 14-year-olds. But please not for football.


No when I said 55-45 I wasnt talking about possesion, its some random number I made up to define the domination of the game between each teams. My english sucks so its difficult for me to find words. Of course more possesion of the ball doesnt guarantee you winning neither shooting more, but I think if you combine all the factors a soccer game has you can say it was 55-45 if you compare the possibilities each team were having to win.

[beermonsteroo]

It's coming home it's coming home, England's coming home!:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :rollhttp://www.morgenpost.de/multimedia/archive/00099/sei_FanmeileJubel_BM_99717b.jpg

[SALFORD-RED]

Based on our 4 performances in the tournament we did not deserve to go to the last 8.

Terrible, schoolboy defending for the first half goals and the last 2 were academic because at that point England were chasing the game, but still good execution on the counter.

I don't feel cheated at the "goal" as an England fan because honestly we did not play well enough to win but I think it would have been a better second half/more exciting game had the teams gone in at the break 2-2.

Well it cancels out the one in 1966, so now we don't have to hear about the Russian linesman anymore :D


PS. Shall be supporting Uruguay here on out:

http://manutd.theoffside.com/files/2009/03/forlan-vs-pool-the-offside.jpg

Diego, woooah. He comes from Uruguay He made the scousers cry.

[I am that I am]

Based on our 4 performances in the tournament we did not deserve to go to the last 8.

Terrible, schoolboy defending for the first half goals and the last 2 were academic because at that point England were chasing the game, but still good execution on the counter.

I don't feel cheated at the "goal" as an England fan because honestly we did not play well enough to win but I think it would have been a better second half/more exciting game had the teams gone in at the break 2-2.

Well it cancels out the one in 1966, so now we don't have to hear about the Russian linesman anymore :D


PS. Shall be supporting Uruguay here on out:

http://manutd.theoffside.com/files/2009/03/forlan-vs-pool-the-offside.jpg

Diego, woooah. He comes from Uruguay He made the scousers cry.
Your boy Rooney did nothing at all over 4 games, not bad for a top 3 player in the world XD

In reality kids like Muller and Ozil are better and have more talent than Rooney, the reason idiots think Rooney is top 3 is because the british press tells them he is

[SALFORD-RED]

In reality kids like Muller and Ozil are better and have more talent than Rooney, the reason idiots think Rooney is top 3 is because the british press tells them he is

Well your the big Chelsea fan so why not let your Chelsea mates know how overrated England players are next time you are at Stamford Bridge?

[LJJ]

Well your the big Chelsea fan so why not let your Chelsea mates know how overrated England players are next time you are at Stamford Bridge?

He would, but Football Manager is a single player game boyo.

[I am that I am]

Well your the big Chelsea fan so why not let your Chelsea mates know how overrated England players are next time you are at Stamford Bridge?
Lampard was the best player on the field this game but for some reason most english fans trash him, they prefer the retarded shoot on site egotist team killer Gerrard because sometimes those shots go in against crap teams like Kazakstan and it looks really cool

Look at reality-ok Terry has made some huge gaffs and not been great but Ashley Cole and Frank Lampard were probably England's best players this tournament.

If that washed up scrub Gerrard and that do nothing lump rooney weren't on the field, and they built the attack around Lampard England would have had a much better shot at this tournament.


MULLER>ROONEY
OZIL>ROONEY

[SALFORD-RED]

Wind your neck in and get off Ashley Cole's bollocks.

[I am that I am]

Wind your neck in and get off Ashley Cole's bollocks.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3502/3973605423_6d4c32aaf0.jpg

This should be Manchester United's top transfer target, so that Rooney is allowed to go back to the roll in which he excels the most, second fiddle to a guy more talented.

[chains5000]

This should be Manchester United's top transfer target, so that Rooney is allowed to go back to the roll in which he excels the most, second fiddle to a guy more talented.
You can't be serious.

[I am that I am]

You can't be serious.
Look at reality-Muller produces goals in big games, is 5 years younger, and creates more for his teammates.

Rooney in contrast, while he loves getting hattricks vs the Andorra's and Sunderlands of the world, disappears and plays run away from the ball in big games.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say Muller>Rooney, just because you never watch German league doesn't mean Muller isn't world class talent, and he is the starting striker on a side that just got to the champions league final at the age of 20.

[SALFORD-RED]

You can't be serious.


He's not he's on a wind up.

[SALFORD-RED]

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say Muller>Rooney, just because you never watch German league doesn't mean Muller isn't world class talent, and he is the starting striker on a side that just got to the champions league final at the age of 20.

This is the kind of tool that ESPN has helped manifest, the what have you done for me lately, frontrunning, jumping on whatever bandwagon is hot at the moment sports "fan" that this tool is.

[beermonsteroo]

He's not he's on a wind up.

You are a sportsman buddy! :applause: :applause:

[I am that I am]

This is the kind of tool that ESPN has helped manifest, the what have you done for me lately, frontrunning, jumping on whatever bandwagon is hot at the moment sports "fan" that this tool is.
ESPN is responsible for tools like yourself who believed that Rooney actually was a top 3 striker in the world, and now don't know how to cope when reality has revealed itself to you.

I gaurantee you ESPN like hype machines won't be saying Muller>Rooney, they will instead just make excuses for Rooney's horrible playing.

But the results speak differently. And Muller is only 20.

[SALFORD-RED]

This is the kind of tool that ESPN has helped manifest, the what have you done for me lately, frontrunning, jumping on whatever bandwagon is hot at the moment sports "fan" that this tool is.



Yes the love has been lost for 2 seasons, I used to love Rooney because he worked his ass off, he played like a player with no talent but he was scoring crazy volleys.

Rooney is not the same player these days, he has revealed himself to believe his own hype, became an egomaniac, and chokes in big games.


^ i am has spoken, his words not mine. He has proven himself an England hating Chelsea bandwagon fan.

I used to love Rooney = he had a bad world cup so im not on his bandwagon any longer.

i am you couldnt be a bigger ***** if you wore a dress and changed your name to John Terry.

[SALFORD-RED]

ESPN is responsible for tools like yourself who believed that Rooney actually was a top 3 striker in the world.

When have I ever said that???????????????

Please quote me.

[I am that I am]

^ i am has spoken, his words not mine. He has proven himself an England hating Chelsea bandwagon fan.

I used to love Rooney = he had a bad world cup so im not on his bandwagon any longer.

i am you couldnt be a bigger ***** if you wore a dress and changed your name to John Terry.
I hated Rooney for the past two seasons when he became an overhyped egomaniac who believes his own hype and lost the quality I admired about him the most, his warrior attitude and work rate. If he gained these qualities back and admits when he plays shitty instead of ***** at the fans, I will of course gain respect for his game again, because young rooney was a beast.

[I am that I am]

When have I ever said that???????????????

Please quote me.
You know you believed this before the world cup started, don't even lie.

[SALFORD-RED]

I hated Rooney for the past two seasons when he became an overhyped egomaniac who believes his own hype and lost the quality I admired about him the most, his warrior attitude and work rate. If he gained these qualities back and admits when he plays shitty instead of ***** at the fans, I will of course gain respect for his game again, because young rooney was a beast.


FLIP.


FLOP.


You should be a politician mate. More spin than Terminator X.

[step_back]

this has always been our problem.
http://www.careerbuilderinstitute.com/controls/CourseProductImage.ashx?ID=261

The disallowed goal is of course a pain in the arse but hopefully this will bring in video playback reviewing that being said our problems were evident from kick off. England are not going anywhere until we have a different mental approach. There is no poise, no control and no sense of self belief. You can't go into a world cup and hope for the best like we did, That is not the mentality of a world champion.

[Juvenile]

^^Doubt that Muller will leave Bayern any time soon.

Regarding the game. Even when the score being 2-2 would have changed the game, I fail to see how it would have changed things to the point that England could be called the better team today.

Their defense was abysmal. Ashley "best left back in the world" Cole was repeatedly abused by Muller and Ozil. Upson made mistakes left and right, starting with Klose's goal to start the game. Terry was a now show too.

Their offense was nonexistant, all their chances being long shots from Frank Lampard. Name me one chance, where the shot came from within the penalty box. There was not one. Upson scored after a corner, Lampard repeatedly shot from 25m to 30m and hit aluminum. But thats it. Milner could not get a single cross in but he at least tried. Barry doesnt belong, he has no business playing in a WC game.
As somebody who doesnt watch the Premier League, i am astounded that Wayne Rooney is able to score 26 goals in a single season. He was as undangerous as can be in all four games.

All while England refused to enter the german penalty box with the ball, Germany got there repeatedly.

Their play often started with precise kicks and throws from GK Manuel Neuer. His throws all went to midfield or even past midfield and iniated counter attacks. He made a mistake on Upsons goal and may have been a bit far out on Lampards goal too, but he was very active and involved all game long.
The defense was a littly shaky in the last 15 minutes of half one and early on in half two. but then they didnt really allow any huge chances either.
Schweinsteiger again was awesome, really running the game for our team. He has great court view and plays very methodically. The switch to centre midfield which he made before last season really worked wonders for him.

Muller and Ozil were the ones who were really beating the defense though. Precise passes deep into englands territory, fast and very disciplined on the ocunter attack. Muller scored two and assisted another. Best young player in the tournament so far. Leading scorer of the whole WC too.

Klose played well, seemed very fit and active compared to his effort with Bayern Munich.

All in all a great team effort with a very disciplined, yet beautiful offense. Hope our defense holds up though against Argentine.

[I am that I am]

FLIP.


FLOP.


You should be a politician mate. More spin than Terminator X.
Im sorry I don't blindly love a player when he lost the qualities I loved about him for 2 seasons

[I am that I am]

^^Doubt that Muller will leave Bayern any time soon.

Regarding the game. Even when the score being 2-2 would have changed the game, I fail to see how it would have changed things to the point that England could be called the better team today.

Their defense was abysmal. Ashley "best left back in the world" Cole was repeatedly abused by Muller and Ozil. Upson made mistakes left and right, starting with Klose's goal to start the game. Terry was a now show too.

Their offense was nonexistant, all their chances being long shots from Frank Lampard. Name me one chance, where the shot came from within the penalty box. There was not one. Upson scored after a corner, Lampard repeatedly shot from 25m to 30m and hit aluminum. But thats it. Milner could not get a single cross in but he at least tried. Barry doesnt belong, he has no business playing in a WC game.
As somebody who doesnt watch the Premier League, i am astounded that Wayne Rooney is able to score 26 goals in a single season. He was as undangerous as can be in all four games.

All while England refused to enter the german penalty box with the ball, Germany got there repeatedly.

Their play often started with precise kicks and throws from GK Manuel Neuer. His throws all went to midfield or even past midfield and iniated counter attacks. He made a mistake on Upsons goal and may have been a bit far out on Lampards goal too, but he was very active and involved all game long.
The defense was a littly shaky in the last 15 minutes of half one and early on in half two. but then they didnt really allow any huge chances either.
Schweinsteiger again was awesome, really running the game for our team. He has great court view and plays very methodically. The switch to centre midfield which he made before last season really worked wonders for him.

Muller and Ozil were the ones who were really beating the defense though. Precise passes deep into englands territory, fast and very disciplined on the ocunter attack. Muller scored two and assisted another. Best young player in the tournament so far. Leading scorer of the whole WC too.

Klose played well, seemed very fit and active compared to his effort with Bayern Munich.

All in all a great team effort with a very disciplined, yet beautiful offense. Hope our defense holds up though against Argentine.
brilliant post

[SALFORD-RED]

Im sorry I don't blindly love a player when he lost the qualities I loved about him for 2 seasons

Jesus. He hasnt lost a thing, he was the best Utd player by miles last year and the main reason why the title went down to the last game of the season.

One swallow does not make a summer and I fully expect you to be back on his nuts when we win the League next year.

[EarlTheGoat]

I am that I am getting clowned by everyone.

:roll:

[I am that I am]

Jesus. He hasnt lost a thing, he was the best Utd player by miles last year and the main reason why the title went down to the last game of the season.

One swallow does not make a summer and I fully expect you to be back on his nuts when we win the League next year.
No I am off his nuts, he has become an egomaniac overhyped little priss like Princess Ronaldo, that is not the fearless fiery player who's game I originally so admired when he was on Everton and first came to Manchester United

[AirGauge23]

Hey Salford, you watching the M

[hookul]

No I am off his nuts, he has become an egomaniac overhyped little priss like Princess Ronaldo, that is not the fearless fiery player who's game I originally so admired when he was on Everton and first came to Manchester United

Again, nothing could be more untrue. It is just as you make stuff up as you type. If anything Rooney has become less and less of an egoistic maniac over the last 2 years and AGAIN every new report, commentator and actually FAN who sees him play and listens to his interviews over the psat 5 years knows that:


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/columns/story?id=754308&cc=5739&ver=global

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He has been described as "extra-special" by Australia coach Pim Verbeek, "unstoppable" by Germany coach Joachim Low and "the complete player" by Leonardo, after he saw the England striker net four goals in two matches against his AC Milan side. But despite all the praise, Rooney insists it is only the opinion of a select few that matters to him, and was quick to point to the contribution of his team-mates to his form.

"Obviously it's nice for top coaches to say good things about you but if I'm being honest I don't really read into it too much. I listen to my manager at England and my manager at Manchester United, and my family and friends - if they tell me I'm doing well I'll listen to them.

"My team-mates know for sure that I'm getting the goals but I wouldn't be getting the goals without them so they've been a big part of my success this year and hopefully we will be successful as a team at the end of the year.

Over the past two years, it has been clear to see a change in Rooney - but it is not simply because he has now been charged with spearheading the United attack in the absence of the departed Cristiano Ronaldo. Yes, the Portuguese forward's transfer to Real Madrid has allowed him to be the focal point of the team, but more than that, Rooney's temperament has mellowed, though crucially, he has not lost his irrepressible energy and passionate approach to playing the game.
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Indeed the change in Rooney mentallity - to the better away from being an egomaniac hothead !!!!- has been clear for everyone who follows football. You are a simpleton

[I am that I am]

Again, nothing could be more untrue. It is just as you make stuff up as you type. If anything Rooney has become less and less of an egoistic maniac over the last 2 years and AGAIN every new report, commentator and actually FAN who sees him play and listens to his interviews over the psat 5 years knows that:


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/columns/story?id=754308&cc=5739&ver=global

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He has been described as "extra-special" by Australia coach Pim Verbeek, "unstoppable" by Germany coach Joachim Low and "the complete player" by Leonardo, after he saw the England striker net four goals in two matches against his AC Milan side. But despite all the praise, Rooney insists it is only the opinion of a select few that matters to him, and was quick to point to the contribution of his team-mates to his form.

"Obviously it's nice for top coaches to say good things about you but if I'm being honest I don't really read into it too much. I listen to my manager at England and my manager at Manchester United, and my family and friends - if they tell me I'm doing well I'll listen to them.

"My team-mates know for sure that I'm getting the goals but I wouldn't be getting the goals without them so they've been a big part of my success this year and hopefully we will be successful as a team at the end of the year.

Over the past two years, it has been clear to see a change in Rooney - but it is not simply because he has now been charged with spearheading the United attack in the absence of the departed Cristiano Ronaldo. Yes, the Portuguese forward's transfer to Real Madrid has allowed him to be the focal point of the team, but more than that, Rooney's temperament has mellowed, though crucially, he has not lost his irrepressible energy and passionate approach to playing the game.
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Indeed the change in Rooney mentallity - to the better away from being an egomaniac hothead !!!!- has been clear for everyone who follows football. You are a simpleton
lawl

[bettalaylow]

No point in trying to re-write history now. You have been exposed as a gutless supporter of the overrated english excuse for a soccer team. Now i fully understand why your panties were so sandy after the USA played to a draw against the english. Its pretty sad that the english have been exposed for being as bad as the USA at soccer.
Hahaha Nanners your killing this thread and Fatal9 is pathetic how can anyone not see this game as a total domination. Germany took out their best players at the 70 minute mark if they had stayed in this could have reached the levels of a North Korea trouncing.

[Fatal9]

Caught the replay of the game again. First goal should never happen off a damn goal kick. I have no idea what Upson/Terry were doing there.

England took complete control of the game after making adjustments in the first 20-something minutes. Really looked like the English team I was expecting to see. They were dominating them for the first 20+ minute of the second half too, but you could see the desperation in the team when there were only 25 minutes left and they were down 2-1. The entire team was up the pitch on the free kick in hopes of scoring and that led to the easy counter goal for the Germans...think that is happening in a 2-2 game? England unlucky as always, got cheated out of a goal and hit the post twice in that stretch. Even psychologically, something like that can take you out of your game and you end up playing impatient, desperate football, which is exactly what happened as time kept running up in the second half.

[Knuck the Ficks]

England took complete control of the game after making adjustments in the first 20-something minutes. Really looked like the English team I was expecting to see. They were dominating them for the first 20+ minute of the second half too, but you could see the desperation in the team when there were only 25 minutes left and they were down 2-1. The entire team was up the pitch on the free kick in hopes of scoring and that led to the easy counter goal for the Germans...think that is happening in a 2-2 game? England unlucky as always, got cheated out of a goal and hit the post twice in that stretch. Even psychologically, something like that can take you out of your game and you end up playing impatient, desperate football, which is exactly what happened as time kept running up in the second half.
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England have been rubbish the entire tournament. I tried to tell you that Germany were the better team but you wouldn't listen. It's not that the Germans are great it's just that England find it extremely difficult to string three passes together in succession. With the exception of that 5 minute spell in the first half, Germany were quite comfortable. "Dominating" is a word I would use to describe Barcelona against many of their opponents in the past 2 years. To use that word to describe England's play yesterday is laughable.


Stick to hugging Kobe's nuts and stay away from the football talk.