England v Germany June 24 world cup game thread

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The GOAT Sports rivalry reconvenes for its next installment this Sunday.

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Any Germans fancy an avatar bet? I fancy England to win this 1-0. Rooney to finally get his world cup off to a start.

[I am that I am]

the Mannshaft will jizz all over the limey scum

[dough]

I'm not German but I think the English will have a hard time even scoring against Gemrany, let alone win. My money is on Germany.

[TheLogo]

England will lose because Rooney and Lampard usually don't show up.

[SALFORD-RED]

Based on form so far Germany of course should stroll it, however this is the type of matchup that will bring out the best in English players and fans.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00076/bolter2_516x375_76859a.jpg

1 month avatar bet please any takers?

[dough]

the Mannshaft will jizz all over the limey scum
A joke so bad (and off, mannsChaft, doesnt even sound like what you want it to be...) you wanted to make it twice?

[I am that I am]

Based on form so far Germany of course should stroll it, however this is the type of matchup that will bring out the best in English players and fans.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00076/bolter2_516x375_76859a.jpg

1 month avatar bet please any takers?
Lol besides the world cup final in 66, that was probably the greatest game England ever played. And it was a friendly. Sad, lol

[SALFORD-RED]

Lol besides the world cup final in 66, that was probably the greatest game England ever played. And it was a friendly. Sad, lol


Er it was a WC qualifier actually.

:pimp:

[I am that I am]

Er it was a WC qualifier actually.

:pimp:
Yep England are world cup qualifier champions.

[SALFORD-RED]

Yep England are world cup qualifier champions.

Just as USA are GOAT group c winners :banana:


Did they get their trophy yet?

[Andrei89]

England takes this with Gerrard scoring with a free kicK:D

[I am that I am]

England takes this with Gerrard scoring with a free kicK:D
Gerrard wont even take them, that is Lampard's job, and on top of that Gerrard sucks for England and he has sucked all season on Liverpool

[EarlTheGoat]

Classic.

If it was England with Eriksson id take Germany in a heartbeat, but since its Capello and the world cup knockout rounds, I think England takes this.

Capello means anti-choker.

[beermonsteroo]

The German squad isn't really taht special at all this year. Above all some of the players are lacking of the typical German values like absolute fighting spirit, tactical discipline, team spirit, pride and so on. Especially non native germans like Podolski or Ozil. Those guys don't even sing the national anthem in order not to hurt the feelings of their native contrys.:hammerhead: :hammerhead:
Still, against England everyone will be motivated 100 percent and the German tanks will be rolling all over the English squad. The Germans haven't lost a knock out game against England since 1966 and this won't chance on Sunday. The English team both lacks of quality and mentality. Against England the moral of the German player will make the difference.
It isn't a coincidence that german has done so much better then England over the last 40 years.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Gerrard wont even take them, that is Lampard's job, and on top of that Gerrard sucks for England and he has sucked all season on Liverpool

You show your lack of knowlegde once again.:rolleyes:

Gerrard dont suck for England, Lampard does. He has been booed by his own supporters during several England-matches

[Yuki Nagato]

I hope Germany wins, I really like the way they play.

[beermonsteroo]

Lol besides the world cup final in 66, that was probably the greatest game England ever played. And it was a friendly. Sad, lol

Not the forget taht in 66 you only one because of you were awarded a goal which wasn't a goal.

[LJJ]

Capello has no chemistry with the English players. None.

[EarlTheGoat]

Capello has no chemistry with the English players. None.

Capello has no chemistry with everybody. But he still wins.

[Yuki Nagato]

Capello has no chemistry with everybody. But he still wins.

He is unproved in the international stage though. But yeah, never count him out. Still, I want Germany to take this one.

[SALFORD-RED]

The German squad isn't really taht special at all this year. Above all some of the players are lacking of the typical German values like absolute fighting spirit, tactical discipline, team spirit, pride and so on. Especially non native germans like Podolski or Ozil. Those guys don't even sing the national anthem in order not to hurt the feelings of their native contrys.:hammerhead: :hammerhead:
Still, against England everyone will be motivated 100 percent and the German tanks will be rolling all over the English squad. The Germans haven't lost a knock out game against England since 1966 and this won't chance on Sunday. The English team both lacks of quality and mentality. Against England the moral of the German player will make the difference.
It isn't a coincidence that german has done so much better then England over the last 40 years.


ok fritz care to make an avatar bet?

[beermonsteroo]

ok fritz care to make an avatar bet?

if so, what's at stake?

[SALFORD-RED]

if so, what's at stake?


when england win this is your avatar:

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for a month

[beermonsteroo]

when england win this is your avatar:

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for a month

Ok! I am looking for your avatar! Wait a second!

[SALFORD-RED]

Ok! I am looking for your avatar! Wait a second!

it better not be david hassellhoff

[artex]

Hahaha, nice av choice

[I am that I am]

Ok! I am looking for your avatar! Wait a second!
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[beermonsteroo]

when england win this is your avatar:

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for a month

Sorry my Computer is striking with the photo at the moment.

This will be yours if England looses! Ok?

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[Kobe8]

Lets go GERMANY!!! im from mannheim..for now.

[SALFORD-RED]

Sorry my Computer is striking with the photo at the moment.

This will be yours if England looses! Ok?

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dealio.

i am, stay away from the gay porn sites son

[beermonsteroo]

dealio.

i am, stay away from the gay porn sites son

Ok, so It's a done deal?
1 month, which means till July 27th!

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[EarlTheGoat]

1966 says hello.

:lol

[beermonsteroo]

1966 says hello.

:lol
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[Fatal9]

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[dough]

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****ing poor taste. but we all know where that comes from.

[Fatal9]

whatever you do, don't mention the war. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnNhzgcWTk)

[TheLogo]

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I love this picture.

It's as if I was there instructing the firefighters....I need to get it in a larger format and hang it in my office.

[bballer]

who won englands group?

[Poodle]

EngGer

[bballer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

[I am that I am]

****ing poor taste. but we all know where that comes from.
Quoth the guy who thinks Hamas is a group of righteous freedom fighters XD

[Brunch@Five]

Germany will take this. I'm PUMPED!

[ukplayer4]

we will loose, we suck so hard at football, infact sport in general. other than basketball we invented every sport of international relevance but suck at all of them.

[Hawker]

I think Germany will win but I'll be rooting for England. Germany is just so tough.

[EarlTheGoat]

we will loose, we suck so hard at football, infact sport in general. other than basketball we invented every sport of international relevance but suck at all of them.

Lol, nice mentality.


England with Capello has equal or even more chances than Germany, trust me.

[robertshaw_1]

either way they are both loosing against argentina in round of 8....

[SALFORD-RED]

either way they are both loosing against argentina in round of 8....

Not neccessarily batman.

they just need to employ jordan rules tactics on messi and get in amongst them.

are you forgetting that in the group stages of the last world cup argentina looked unbeatable? and look how that turned out

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2006-07/01/xin_42070301084907902961.jpg


i hope JT is on the phone to bill laimbeer right now gettting some tactics on jordan rules.

[robertshaw_1]

Not neccessarily batman.

they just need to employ jordan rules tactics on messi and get in amongst them.

are you forgetting that in the group stages of the last world cup argentina looked unbeatable? and look how that turned out

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2006-07/01/xin_42070301084907902961.jpg


i hope JT is on the phone to bill laimbeer right now gettting some tactics on jordan rules.


just bad luck....argentina played great that match.....and was the best team of the world cup....same this year.

[SALFORD-RED]

karma (HAND OF GOD) and bad coaching.

pekermann was a fool in that game by making so many early subs and maradona will eventually prove why he is a terrible coach.

[EarlTheGoat]

:lol England still mad at Argentina due to Maradona.

[SALFORD-RED]

:lol England still mad at Argentina due to Maradona.

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Remember this from 1996, jose?

[I am that I am]

Ozil will tear Argentina apart, Maradona knows nothing about creating a defense, either that or Argentines just cant play it well

[I am that I am]

Lol, nice mentality.


England with Capello has equal or even more chances than Germany, trust me.
No Capello won't do shit, he almost ****ed up the group stages, he's choking under pressure just like his team.

The reason England sucks so much is because the players share the same "we will lose" mentality that their country men have

[robertshaw_1]

Messi + kun Aguero + Milito + Tevez + Higuain + Palermo =
Greatest selection of forwards ever for any squad at a world cup.

[SALFORD-RED]

Messi + kun Aguero + Milito + Tevez + Higuain + Palermo =
Greatest selection of forwards ever for any squad at a world cup.

Palermo and Higuain? :wtf: Put them on Denmark and then we'd see how good they are.

:roll: They are the Amare of the world cup only made to look good by being spoon fed easy layups by messi

shut down messi and you shut down the entire team ala the pistons bad boys of 89.

[robertshaw_1]

Palermo and Higuain? :wtf: Put them on Denmark and then we'd see how good they are.

:roll: They are the Amare of the world cup only made to look good by being spoon fed easy layups by messi

shut down messi and you shut down the entire team ala the pistons bad boys of 89.


higuain plays with messi in real madrid?

[I am that I am]

Palermo and Higuain? :wtf: Put them on Denmark and then we'd see how good they are.

:roll: They are the Amare of the world cup only made to look good by being spoon fed easy layups by messi

shut down messi and you shut down the entire team ala the pistons bad boys of 89.
Higauin is a beast, he got 22 goals as a substitute, and unlike Rooney he produces at the international level.

Palermo is the Argentine Crouch with better skill.

Messi is not the only playmaker, Tevez, Pastore, Veron, Aguero, Maxi, all great playmakers who can create something out of nothing

[robertshaw_1]

Higauin is a beast, he got 22 goals as a substitute, and unlike Rooney he produces at the international level.

Palermo is the Argentine Crouch with better skill.

Messi is not the only playmaker, Tevez, Pastore, Veron, Aguero, Maxi, all great playmakers who can create something out of nothing


thats the guy

[EarlTheGoat]

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Remember this from 1996, jose?

Yeah, I also remember how we won last Eurocup when England didnt even qualify.

:roll:

[I am that I am]

Yeah, I also remember how we won last Eurocup when England didnt even qualify.

:roll:
Spain winning that Eurocup was a bigger fluke than Greece winning it

[EarlTheGoat]

No Capello won't do shit, he almost ****ed up the group stages, he's choking under pressure just like his team.

The reason England sucks so much is because the players share the same "we will lose" mentality that their country men have


Capello is an expert in taking teams with shit mentality and turn them into winners. He has been doing this for decades.

He took the 06-07 Real Madrid to winning the championship when that team was a complete mess, with Ronaldo not wanting to play and being transfered to Milan, Beckham struggling and having personal issues, Roberto Carlos playing way off his capacity, that bastard of Cassano f*cking around, Raul playing like shit also...etc etc. Since 2003 Real didnt win until Capello came and made them win in an epic comeback against Barcelona.

He made the same with AS Roma in 00-01, that team was having serious economic problems on the 5/6 previous years, competitive problems also, and he arrived, gave the team a style and surrounded the superstar Totti with nice working clutch players like Montella, Batistuta, Nakata, Aldair...etc.

This are only recent examples.

[EarlTheGoat]

Spain winning that Eurocup was a bigger fluke than Greece winning it

Yeah of course, winning all the 6 games of the tournament with 12 goals scored and 3 received playing the best football of the tournament was a huge fluke, sure.

:roll:


Oh btw, you dont believe your own shit right? Please tell me no, lol.

[beermonsteroo]

World Cup Quaterfinals 1970
Euro Quaterfinals 1972
World Cup Semifinal 1990
Euro Semifinal 1996 in Wembley

The nightmare continues England!http://www.sportschau.de/wm2006/wm/rueckblick/static/images/portraets/1970_mueller_01_rechts.jpg

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[chains5000]

Messi + kun Aguero + Milito + Tevez + Higuain + Palermo =
Greatest selection of forwards ever for any squad at a world cup.
1970 Brazil says hi

[chains5000]

Spain winning that Eurocup was a bigger fluke than Greece winning it
:rolleyes:
They only got lucky on the penalties agains Italy. Quit hating.

[EarlTheGoat]

:rolleyes:
They only got lucky on the penalties agains Italy. Quit hating.

This is why I make threads dedicated to retards, this.

[chains5000]

This is why I make threads dedicated to retards, this.
They won't stop, you know.

[Fatal9]

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cheering for England but....:roll:

[beermonsteroo]

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cheering for England but....:roll:

The English are already shitting their trousers. I can smell it all over the channel.

[robertshaw_1]

Germany (round Of 16)
Argentina (round Of 8)
Spain (semi Finals)
Brazil/Netherlands (finals)

Impossible!!!!!

[Fatal9]

bump.

Rooney will have a good game tomorrow imo. German defense has been nothing special so far, and Mertesacker doesn't have the pace to stay with Rooney. Tough to pick, Germany hasn't looked that great after their first game and England is still not up to form. Maybe the lowered expectations after their group performance has taken pressure off the players?

[beermonsteroo]

bump.

Rooney will have a good game tomorrow imo. German defense has been nothing special so far, and Mertesacker doesn't have the pace to stay with Rooney. Tough to pick, Germany hasn't looked that great after their first game and England is still not up to form. Maybe the lowered expectations after their group performance has taken pressure off the players?

True, we haven't an especially good team. But we always overachieve in the knock out games. And against England we won't lose.
Badstuber might be playing instead of Mertesacker tomorow.

[Brunch@Five]

Badstuber might be playing instead of Mertesacker tomorow.

There's absolutely no way Mertesacker does not play, save for injury.

The biggest question mark is whether Schweinsteiger will play. If he does not due to injury, Germany will likely play a different, more offensive syste,

[Knuck the Ficks]

It's not impossible for England to win, but Germany are the obvious favourites. England has been absolutely brutal so far - there game against Slovenia was pretty unimpressive although it was a step above their shitty play against the USA and Algeria.

It wouldn't be good for football if England won the world cup. Not with a team like this. So I've got to hope Germany pull it out.

[Knuck the Ficks]

Rooney will have a good game tomorrow imo. German defense has been nothing special so far
The defenses of the USA, Algeria and Slovenia are feared throughout the world :rolleyes:


He plays brilliantly for United because he gets great service from his midfield. It's the same for any striker - prime Ronaldo would look a step below his best if he played for this current England side. Unless Gerrard/Barry/Lampard step up Rooney will again be anonymous.

How well Rooney plays has very little to do with Germany's defense.

[Fatal9]

lol @ Germany being the favorites. Looking at the last two games, England has looked slightly better than Germany and have been improving by the match. If there is a favorite, it is England slightly. Their defense has been awful in the last two games, and I'm not sure how they will do up front. Schweinsteiger is unfit or not even playing, Ozil is good, Klose has sucked this year and Terry will give him problems, Podolski is meh and even Glen Johnson should have no trouble containing him. I'd place England as the 60/40 favorites, and that's only because I can see them choking on the penalties or Cole and Johnson making a stupid defensive mistake. I'm not that worried for some reason, not really scared of anyone on Germany.

Rooney was decent last game, way more involved. Had a couple of chances, one being a really powerful strike that hit the post. Beckenbauer may be right in that English players look tired (not as many breaks as other leagues) and Rooney has been dealing with nagging injuries in the last couple of months. You can see from watching him that he is not as active. I don't think the service is that huge of an issue as much as him playing differently (though wingers like Nani and Valencia would help him tons). He is spending more time out of the box (more withdrawn) than I recall him doing at United.

Lampard is the real disgrace on the English team though. Complete invisible.

[SALFORD-RED]

lol @ Germany being the favorites. Looking at the last two games, England has looked slightly better than Germany and have been improving by the match. If there is a favorite, it is England slightly. Their defense has been awful in the last two games, and I'm not sure how they will do up front. Schweinsteiger is unfit or not even playing, Ozil is good, Klose has sucked this year and Terry will give him problems, Podolski is meh and even Glen Johnson should have no trouble containing him. I'd place England as the 60/40 favorites, and that's only because I can see them choking on the penalties or Cole and Johnson making a stupid defensive mistake. I'm not that worried for some reason, not really scared of anyone on Germany.

Rooney was decent last game, way more involved. Had a couple of chances, one being a really powerful strike that hit the post. Beckenbauer may be right in that English players look tired (not as many breaks as other leagues) and Rooney has been dealing with nagging injuries in the last couple of months. You can see from watching him that he is not as active. I don't think the service is that huge of an issue as much as him playing differently (though wingers like Nani and Valencia would help him tons). He is spending more time out of the box (more withdrawn) than I recall him doing at United.

Lampard is the real disgrace on the English team though. Complete invisible.


Can't sleep for shit I am so wired up.

The good thing is Germany will do more than just try to stop us playing. In all 3 group games our opponents number one priority has been to stop us playing and put 10 men behind the ball and then hit on the counter. Teams seriously play for a draw or whatever they can get from us on setpieces. Germany will attack and offer more going forward than Algeria, Slovenia etc. which = more space for Rooney and the rest.

This sort of game suits us more than any game against an underdog/scrub nation who just try to contain us and make the game ugly.

[Fatal9]

Can't sleep for shit I am so wired up.

The good thing is Germany will do more than just try to stop us playing. In all 3 group games our opponents number one priority has been to stop us playing and put 10 men behind the ball and then hit on the counter. Teams seriously play for a draw or whatever they can get from us on setpieces. Germany will attack and offer more going forward than Algeria, Slovenia etc. which = more space for Rooney and the rest.

This sort of game suits us more than any game against an underdog/scrub nation who just try to contain us and make the game ugly.
Ya, I forgot to include that in my post. Algeria might not have big name defenders, but they were playing 8 men back and clogging up the box with bodies. Same with USA, they exclusively relied on counter attacking. Germany is not going to play them like that.

[knickballer]

On paper England should win, but it's England...

[plowking]

Germany will get destroyed and thoroughly outplayed.

2-0 England.

[knickballer]

Germany will get destroyed and thoroughly outplayed.

2-0 England.

England hasn't done shit this WC really.. Maybe they start to wake up but a 3 game should be a indicator on that team. They love to take 35m shots.

[Fatal9]

I'll be crushed if England lose tomorrow on penalties. Would rather get thrashed 4-0 over that.

I feel it's all going to come together tomorrow. They've looked better by the game. Rooney should be breaking out of his 11 hour slump. The men will be playing inspired football against a historical rival, and let rest of the teams know they are for real. Expectations after the group stages are lower so some of the pressure may be relieved. For all the talk of England being overrated, you're better off point your finger at Germany (especially if clowns here think they are the favorites).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE-wKAooU20

It was 1966, eve of the World Cup final between Germany and host England:

“If, on the morrow, the Germans beat us at our national game, we’ll do well to remember that, twice this century, we have beaten them at theirs.”
:applause:

[SALFORD-RED]

Surfing through some old Michael Owen films and just remembering what an explosive player he was when he first broke into the England team, such a shame his career just kind of drifted into nothingness and injury...........................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIqfqNw1fKo

[plowking]

Germany really isn't that great. I think a lot of people are fooled by that 4-0 line against Australia.

[beermonsteroo]

We have a mediocere team. But we can rise to the occasion like no other nation in the knock out round.
And against England it's special. Wembley is their curse. We haven't finished below them in the World Cup since this final in 1966. And we won't this time. It's like an everlasting revenge.
I really hope it goes to penalties. There's hardly a better feeeling then seeing the Englsh crying after yet another penalty drop out :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Knuck the Ficks]

I'll be crushed if England lose tomorrow on penalties. Would rather get thrashed 4-0 over that.

I feel it's all going to come together tomorrow. They've looked better by the game. Rooney should be breaking out of his 11 hour slump. The men will be playing inspired football against a historical rival, and let rest of the teams know they are for real. Expectations after the group stages are lower so some of the pressure may be relieved. For all the talk of England being overrated, you're better off point your finger at Germany (especially if clowns here think they are the favorites).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE-wKAooU20

:applause:
This is not a great German team but you clearly don't know what you're talking about if you think that England are the favourites:

- England find it extremely difficult to string multiple passes together. Germany don't.

- England were one goal away from being knocked out of the world cup

- Germany got through in a much tougher group. A loss to Serbia with ten men is far more impressive than drawing with a putrid Algerian side

- Germany's footballing attitude is just conducive to winning. Your talk about their mediocre defense is somewhat true. But two years ago they had one of the worst defenses in Euro 2008 and made it to the final. There they conceded only one goal against a Spanish attack that is light years ahead of whatever England put together tonight.

Then there's my favourite part of your post: that they are "historical rivals". Germany have been outperforming England since 1966. There is no rivalry. The only way the English players can be spurred on by their opponent is if they are completely ignorant of this fact.


You're right, this isn't a great German team. But this is a bad English team who play terrible football that is quite easy to defend. It's not impossible for England to win. I'd say their chances range from 35-40%.

The Germans are favourites - stop pretending that you know shit about football.

[iamgine]

On paper, England seems much better. But as always, they find a way to underachieve. I'm still waiting on Capello magic to turn that around. The guy is a bona fide winner. Lets see if England can follow suit after highly unimpressive performances in the group stage.

[ALBballer]

I'll be rooting for Germany. I've always had a soft spot for them.

:cheers:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Wayne Rooney will be on fire. Mertesacker ; prepare to be owned by WAZZA:cheers:

[Fatal9]

It's not impossible for England to win. I'd say their chances range from 35-40%. The Germans are favourites.
loool

Check any betting line right now, they all have England as the slight favorites. Apparently you know something the rest of the world doesn't. I can see Germany really wooed you in that 4-0 thrashing of Australia :oldlol:

[Knuck the Ficks]

loool

Check any betting line right now, they all have England as the slight favorites. Apparently you know something the rest of the world doesn't. I can see Germany really wooed you in that 4-0 thrashing of Australia :oldlol:
And England wowed you when they drew against one of the worst teams in the competition? :rolleyes:


Also you do realise that English betting lines are always skewed because of the amount of money their supporters bet, right?

[Kebab Stall]

And England wowed you when they drew against one of the worst teams in the competition? :rolleyes:
To be fair, the US played pretty well that game.

[takeittothehoop]

To be fair, the US played pretty well that game.
Lol was that a jab at the US? Too bad Knuck the Ficks isn't american..

[Kebab Stall]

Lol was that a jab at the US? Too bad Knuck the Ficks isn't american..
Ah, well then, I guess I made myself look like a fool then didn't I.

[ALBballer]

Ah, well then, I guess I made myself look like a fool then didn't I.

I thought it was kinda funny......

but Knuck the Ficks is from Australia......

[takeittothehoop]

I thought it was kinda funny......

but Knuck the Ficks is from Australia......
Yeah it'll still piss off the numerous US Soccer homers on this site..

[Knuck the Ficks]

To be fair I thought it was pretty funny as well

[macmac]

I got 800 on Germany+0.5 lets go you german basterrdddss!!!

[Abd El-Krim]

Germans really have some balls to show off national pride. That's like being proud of your history as a wifebeater.

[Juges8932]

That German chick was pretty hot.

Don't really care who wins. I just hope that it's a good one.

[Rekindled]

damn, did anyone else see that female german fan they showed , damn ..

[macmac]

Germany controlling this game early on....beautiful passing so far

[Juvenile]

Kloseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[Kebab Stall]

Simplest goal ever.

[Nanners]

lol @ Germany being the favorites. Looking at the last two games, England has looked slightly better than Germany and have been improving by the match. If there is a favorite, it is England slightly. Their defense has been awful in the last two games, and I'm not sure how they will do up front. Schweinsteiger is unfit or not even playing, Ozil is good, Klose has sucked this year and Terry will give him problems, Podolski is meh and even Glen Johnson should have no trouble containing him. I'd place England as the 60/40 favorites, and that's only because I can see them choking on the penalties or Cole and Johnson making a stupid defensive mistake. I'm not that worried for some reason, not really scared of anyone on Germany.

Rooney was decent last game, way more involved. Had a couple of chances, one being a really powerful strike that hit the post. Beckenbauer may be right in that English players look tired (not as many breaks as other leagues) and Rooney has been dealing with nagging injuries in the last couple of months. You can see from watching him that he is not as active. I don't think the service is that huge of an issue as much as him playing differently (though wingers like Nani and Valencia would help him tons). He is spending more time out of the box (more withdrawn) than I recall him doing at United.

Lampard is the real disgrace on the English team though. Complete invisible.


lol 20 minutes in and its Germany 1 England 0

you were saying?

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Poor defending by Upson and ecspesially Terry

[plowking]

lol 20 minutes in and its Germany 1 England 0

you were saying?

Yep games over. :rolleyes:

[Juvenile]

And not only do we lead, but we control this game. Not the slightest chance for England so far!

[plowking]

And not only do we lead, but we control this game. Not the slightest chance for England so far!

You scored when it was offside. Not that impressive.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

The stadium is so quiet now :lol

[Juvenile]

How good was that attack. Klose gotta score there.

And as i type Defoe hitting aluminum, but being called for offside.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

PODOLSKI. THEY ARE KILLING ENGLAND:roll:

[Juvenile]

@plowking: Offside rule does not apply on kicks from the goalie.

And as I type Poldolski with the 2-0. How you like that damn english bastards now?

[plowking]

So let's not call offside for Germany, but let's call line ball offside for England.

Unbelievable.

[Juges8932]

Lol. England is getting tooled.

[plowking]

@plowking: Offside rule does not apply on kicks from the goalie.

And as I type Poldolski with the 2-0. How you like that damn english bastards now?

My apologies, didn't know that.

Still, that was not offside on Defoe.

[Juges8932]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

PODOLSKI. THEY ARE KILLING ENGLAND:roll:

What is a gol is soccer?

[Nanners]

Yep games over. :rolleyes:

lol you were saying?

[sayitaintso]

German wiping out the Brits.

[Juvenile]

Yep, that was a bad call.

[plat1numX]

England sucks this world cup, just deal with it.

[hookul]

You scored when it was offside. Not that impressive.

You are an idiot, there is no offside when the goalkeeper kicks it in this situation.

...damn I'm late.

[Juvenile]

Uh, that was close. Great wing attack from Milner

[plowking]

lol you were saying?

...

You've never seen a team come back from 2-0?

You just start watching soccer?

[Kebab Stall]

Germany our just scorching us right now. The better team by absolute miles. If it wasn't for a couple of James' saves, Germany would be up 4-0 right now.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

England = CHOKERS
:lol

[Juvenile]

Klose is destroying Terry and Upson inside and Mueller got Ashley Coles number as well.

But the game is not decided yet. 2-0 is no score to rest upon.

[dak121]

It's getting interesting

[Juvenile]

and Upson scores afte the corner kick.

[Juges8932]

It's game on again.

[plowking]

lol you were saying?

Bet you feel like a douche now, huh?

[BoogieWoogieMan]

Its a new game!! But still, Germany is taking this

[dak121]

Oh shit

[Kebab Stall]

That was f*cking in.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

Freakin Lampard!!! How crazy was that! lol

[Fatal9]

What The **** Is This What The ****

[Juvenile]

Uh oh, now things are getting interesting. And that was a goal.

Bad bad bad call.

[plowking]

So England isn't getting robbed.

[dak121]

I'd hate to be that ref.

[Juges8932]

Shades of 1966. Way to rob England of a goal. The refereeing is a joke lol.

[Nanners]

wow england just got robbbbbbbed

[Fatal9]

are you ****ing kidding me?? IDIOT REF. THAT WAS SO OBVIOUS.

[sayitaintso]

Instant replay!

[Mr Clutch Melo]

FUN GAME
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Juvenile]

The refs owed us a call from 1966. But that was a goal.
As i said. Bad bad call.

[ALBballer]

that was in lol. I would be so fcking pissed if I was an English fan.

[sayitaintso]

That's F Up. If this was the NBA, it would have been an And-one.

[Nanners]

are you ****ing kidding me?? IDIOT REF. THAT WAS SO OBVIOUS.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9632/2hcja04.jpg

[Kujo]

Wow, England robbed of a goal. How could none of the linesman not see that?: It was a good foot, and a half over the line. confusedshrug:

It's a joke replay isn't used at world cup.

[dak121]

If England loses this game it's going to be fun reading their papers/message boards.

[Fatal9]

wow, England can never get a break. This is a disgrace. **** this.

[plowking]

Nanners gone in disappearing mode... lol

[Kebab Stall]

"The referee's a wanker", good old british football fans at their best.

[plat1numX]

reffing in this world cup has been horrible

[Juvenile]

I gotta say though, i only saw that on the instant replay.

[spree43]

Jeez they need replay, I'm going for England now

[Nanners]

wow, England can never get a break. This is a disgrace. **** this.


http://www.shoplet.com/office/limages/PKCC4693.JPG

[dak121]

C'mon Germany

[plowking]

wow, England can never get a break. This is a disgrace. **** this.

Took a clear goal away, and gave an offside that was clearly line.

[plowking]

England shitting all over Germany after the first 20 minutes.

[plowking]

http://www.shoplet.com/office/limages/PKCC4693.JPG

What happened to the game being over?

[plowking]

Yeah I bet you can see that one you dumb shit lines man.

[niko]

Best thing that ever happened to england, if they can come back, was falling behind 2-0. They played this whole tournament like they were all on different teams, they instantly jelled once everything turned completely against them.

[sayitaintso]

I gotta say though, i only saw that on the instant replay.
It look like a goal on live play. Instant replay just verified the referees F'd UP.

[Nanners]

What happened to the game being over?

In case you have not noticed, every single one of my posts has been directed at crying f4ggot troll piece of trash fatal9. (until this one)

[Black Joker]

wow. a team gives up an early goal. battles back and has a goal disallowed... i think i've seen this story somewhere :confusedshrug:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Get Lennon in

Boateng is so slow , Lennon would easy outsprint him and cross the ball. Milner dont have the pace to do that. England has too continue to work that weak ass German left side.

C'mon England:cheers: :banana:

[iamgine]

If this is NBA, the reffing would go England's way until they score 1 more.

[Kebab Stall]

To be fair, yes, that goal should have definitely counted, but England are very lucky to have only conceded 2 goals. German could very well have 4 or 5 goals.

[ALBballer]

Anyone else think Wayne Rooney is fat for soccer standards? He looks more like a rugby player.

[Fatal9]

After a shaky start, England is back to dominating. Germans played very good, efficient football but England defenders (Upson and Terry wtf) making stupid mistakes. This ****ing double standard on off sides and an OBVIOUS goal, that anyone with eyes could see in real time disallowed. That was a mile over the line. Shit looked like it bounced in twice too. ****ing joke if England goes out like this. Outrageous man, wow.

[plowking]

Anyone else think Wayne Rooney is fat for soccer standards? He looks more like a rugby player.

He looks like a criminal.

One of the ugliest people I've seen in pro sports along with Lebron and Greg Oden.

[Nanners]

After a shaky start, England is back to dominating. Germans played very good, efficient football but England defenders (Upson and Terry wtf) making stupid mistakes. This ****ing double standard on off sides and an OBVIOUS goal, that anyone with eyes could see in real time disallowed. That was a mile over the line. Shit looked like it bounced in twice too. ****ing joke if England goes out like this. Outrageous man, wow.

Yeah I can see how as a front running english ******ger u must be mad right now huh?

[plowking]

You don't need cameras and instant replay, you need another 2 lines man on the end.

Or for this example, just a f*cking good pair of eyes to see the ball 3 feet over the line.

[spree43]

Good call by guy on Aussie half time show (Craig Foster?)

"Before we call for video replays, how about assistant referees who can see"

[hookul]

Wow, England robbed of a goal. How could none of the linesman not see that?: It was a good foot, and a half over the line. confusedshrug:

It's a joke replay isn't used at world cup.

Instant replay is not used in any football game. There is a reason for this as it is part of the game, part of the drama, part of the legends that sorround football. Instead of Maradona's "hand of god" you would have a red card for him, instead of a free flowing game you would have continous interruptions.

I recommend watching "referees at work"-documentary about the pressure and life of football goali at the european cup. There a ref said it best: the game of sports and football lives from players making mistakes, learning from the mistakes and other players taking advantages of these mistakes; the referees should be granted the same level of human imperfection. It is what it is, it is what made football so great, what spurred e.g. the over 44 year old rivalry from the wembley goal, what makes people now talk about "history repeats itself" etc. This is what people talk about in pubs, in memories. Accept it as a part of the game und you learn to enjoy that their is imperfection in the referees just like in any human being.

[sayitaintso]

You don't need cameras and instant replay, you need another 2 lines man on the end.

Or for this example, just a f*cking good pair of eyes to see the ball 3 feet over the line.

If you have a official on some booth watching the game and had a communication device, then you could have stopped play and reward a goal. It wouldn't be controversial, since the stadium instant replay and TV replay will justify it.

[hookul]

And yes, plowkings suggestion to have the two line referees is a good one. But not instant reply.

But get the heck out with offside double standard. The english header was close but perfectly acceptable to be called offside when you compare it to 10 other situations in every game. And even if they had not called it, it would not have been a goal anyway so why cry about it? And what is the double standard? Where was a clear offside for germany that has not been called?

[PistolPete]

I love how Hockey and American Football embrace instant replay. I rather have the game called correctly than to hear the commissioner make excuses for their officials after the game.

[spree43]

The sport has to evolve, every other sport is.

[Fatal9]

I want to know if there was a single person in the stadium who thought that wasn't a goal. WTF man. I can understand some bad calls but not that, not at this stage. Two blown off side calls too. Hope English fans make that linesman's life miserable, guy can go to hell for making this a farce.

[EarlTheGoat]

LMAO!!

1966 payback, f*cking amazing game.

[Fatal9]

Not even close to 1966. This was two yards over the line.

****ing post again.

[EarlTheGoat]

Not even close to 1966. This was two yards over the line.

****ing post again.

:lol

Like I care, not fan of either team, just enjoying this.

[EarlTheGoat]

Ive watched 4 world cups with this and never seen a German team play the ball like this.

:applause:

[Nanners]

I want to know if there was a single person in the stadium who thought that wasn't a goal. WTF man. I can understand some bad calls but not that, not at this stage. Two blown off side calls too. Hope English fans make that linesman's life miserable, guy can go to hell for making this a farce.

i want to know how one person can cry so much over a blown call?


its almost like u are mad or something?

[EarlTheGoat]

Spain vs South Korea in 2002 >>> England vs Germany in 2010



So everybody shut the f*ck up about the refs.

[Fatal9]

England is all over these clowns.

[Nanners]

England is all over these clowns.

yeah just like they were all over the USA clowns

[EarlTheGoat]

Lets add Ozil to the list of players better than Donovan at his position.

[dak121]

Germany!!!

[Nanners]

beautiful flop by englands "tough guy". too bad they fail to get back on defense and give up ANOTHER score :oldlol:

[Black Joker]

Lets add Ozil to the list of players better than Donovan at his position.
earl... why do you encourage the trolling.

and wow, nice counterattack by Germany

[dak121]

http://www.appliedlanguage.com/flags_of_the_world/large_flag_of_germany.gif

[EarlTheGoat]

earl... why do you encourage the trolling.

and wow, nice counterattack by Germany

Im not encouraging trolling lol.

Wow at the game.

[Black Joker]

Im not encouraging trolling lol.
while you may be telling the truth,( i do like Ozil alot, and hope Arsenal will be able to snag him after this WC). now Logo and Sergio will go wild.

and nice assist by O

[Fatal9]

Is this defense for real? WTF is going on back there. Everyone up the pitch trying to equalize, you can blame the disallowed goal for that.

[dak121]

4-1!!!

[Nanners]

Fatal9 has got to be punching pillows now big time


4-1

[Kebab Stall]

Why the hell can't Muller play like this for Bayern? He plays like a complete tool for Bayern, but for Germany? He's awesome.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

GAME OVER
ENGLAND :
http://cache.boston.com/images/bostondirtdogs//Headline_Archives/10.2_Ozzie_choke_BDD.jpg

[hookul]

Ozil has been a better player than Donovan for about 2 years. Anybody who has watched him in the Bundesliga knows he is the biggest german hope at the moment.

[EarlTheGoat]

the f*ck...:lol

[Kujo]

Well, the disallowed goal means nothing now. Total domination by Germany.

I like Germany's chances of winning the WC.

[hookul]

Why the hell can't Muller play like this for Bayern? He plays like a complete tool for Bayern, but for Germany? He's awesome.

Huh? Mueller is one of the success storys for Munich this year? What are you talking about?

[plowking]

Game is over, though partly due to the refs.

You force a team to over commit due to not giving a clear goal that would have made them play completely differently. Germany were better though.

[EarlTheGoat]

Why the hell can't Muller play like this for Bayern? He plays like a complete tool for Bayern, but for Germany? He's awesome.

Muller played good for Bayern this year, maybe not as good as with Germany this WC but give the guy some credit.

[Juvenile]

Legendary game already. I goal to go. **** losing 1-5 in WC qualifiers. How about were going to beat the english by that score in the actual WC.

[hookul]

Game is over, though partly due to the refs.

You force a team to over commit due to not giving a clear goal that would have made them play completely differently. Germany were better though.

Dude, not getting back on defense has nothing to do with the disallowed goal but with quicker german players (both with their feet and their head). It is not if England did not dominate the last 15 minutes of the first and first 10 minutes of the second half anyway even without the disallowed goal. Coulda woulda shoulda, the 2-2 might also have triggered another reaction for the german team and they might have scored 5 straight, who the **** knows?

[Kebab Stall]

Muller played good for Bayern this year, maybe not as good as with Germany this WC but give the guy some credit.
I raelly like Muller. But with Bayern, he has those moments where you just think what is he doing. The good thing is, he is only 20 and looks like he has all the potential in the world. He could be a great player.

[Fatal9]

Well, the disallowed goal means nothing now. Total domination by Germany.
Disallowed goal means everything. Everyone was up the pitch because of the pressure to score. England would be playing differently if it was a tie game. Psychologically it becomes a different game. Terry, Johnson, Upson, Cole can all go to hell though.

[Kujo]

Instant replay is not used in any football game. There is a reason for this as it is part of the game, part of the drama, part of the legends that sorround football. Instead of Maradona's "hand of god" you would have a red card for him, instead of a free flowing game you would have continous interruptions.

I recommend watching "referees at work"-documentary about the pressure and life of football goali at the european cup. There a ref said it best: the game of sports and football lives from players making mistakes, learning from the mistakes and other players taking advantages of these mistakes; the referees should be granted the same level of human imperfection. It is what it is, it is what made football so great, what spurred e.g. the over 44 year old rivalry from the wembley goal, what makes people now talk about "history repeats itself" etc. This is what people talk about in pubs, in memories. Accept it as a part of the game und you learn to enjoy that their is imperfection in the referees just like in any human being.


I don't think using replay only on questionable goals would ruin the flow of a game. How often do questionable goals happen any way? Times have changed.

If not replay, at least have an extra official behind the goal or something.


Disallowed goal means everything. Everyone was up the pitch because of the pressure to score. England would be playing differently if it was a tie game. Psychologically it's a different game. Terry, Johnson, Upson, Cole can all go to hell though.


Good point. It's unfortunate, and I hope FIFA does something about it. I won't hold my breath.

[Nanners]

Disallowed goal means everything. Everyone was up the pitch because of the pressure to score. England would be playing differently if it was a tie game. Terry, Johnson, Upson, Cole can all go to hell.


why u so mad?

your overrated english scrubs are getting exposed again like they did against the americans?

[EarlTheGoat]

While I agree the diasallowed goal meant everything, its not like England was playing better than Germany, it was quite the opposite to be honest.

[EarlTheGoat]

why u so mad?

your overrated english scrubs are getting exposed again like they did against the americans?

An US soccer fan shouldnt use this word.

[konex]

What a beatdown...

[dak121]

Germany is just toying with them.

If there is one country that I would love for the US to imitate when it comes to developing young soccer players, it's Germany. Great mixture of creativity, technique and athleticism.

[Kebab Stall]

What a beatdown...
God I am glad you shown up.

[DonDadda59]

http://files.myopera.com/Teh%20H4mst0R/albums/311680/CalgonitWCStein-1179155086.jpg

[dak121]

An US soccer fan shouldnt use this word.

Why not? Soccer is the #5 sport in the US, and they still won the group over an England team with its best athletes and millions of pounds at their disposal.

The fact is clear. There isn't a more underachieving country in the world of football than England. I'm just loving this asswhoopin'.

[hookul]

Lol, watching the game on BBC, great comment: "This is telling, (calamity) James being the best player for the english team".

[Fatal9]

Won't be watching this farce of a tournament anymore.

[Beebo]

lol @ england, always overrated and overhyped

This German team is impressive, they play attractive football and more importantly, most of them are still young.

[plowking]

Who's Germany play next?

[macmac]

What a dominating showing by Germany. Easy money for Macmac, should have slammed two grand on this, Germany plays such a beautiful brand of football, England should have played defensive because their offense sucks and Germany's counterattack is deadly

[OneMoreSucka]

Coming from someone who doesn't watch much soccer, this has been the most exciting game so far. Both teams pushing it whenever they can

[Nanners]

Won't be watching this farce of a tournament anymore.

its official. u mad


good riddance. this farce of a tournament doesnt need your trolling

[IlliniFan]

Who's Germany play next?
Winner of Mexico/Argentina.

[hookul]

Who's Germany play next?

Probably Argentinia, another great classic. This will be fun.

[plowking]

What a dominating showing by Germany. Easy money for Macmac, should have slammed two grand on this, Germany plays such a beautiful brand of football, England should have played defensive because their offense sucks and Germany's counterattack is deadly

How exactly was this easy money?

If just, it would have been 2-2 going in at half time, and England accordingly wouldn't have gotten killed on the counter attack.

[macmac]

How exactly was this easy money?

If just, it would have been 2-2 going in at half time, and England accordingly wouldn't have gotten killed on the counter attack.

I actually had Germany at +0.5 so a tie wouldnt have phased me, and that call was obviously a terrible one...but England just isn't any good. They haven't been any good this whole tourny. Their only chance is off free kicks and corners, they have no wings to speak of, rooney is too slow, their defense is shady as hell...imo it was easy money, and it paid off.

[hookul]

Won't be watching this farce of a tournament anymore.

So you truelly believe with the 2-2, it would have been clearly a different game? Germany dominated England for ~60-70 min the whole game and were clearly the better team. What a sore whiner you are. Be happy that Germany did not go up 3 or 4-0 in the first half. Grow some balls and accept that England was clearly the weaker team. Heck even the english commentators are not blaming this loss on the disallowed goal, at least they know something about sportmanship.

[Beebo]

Italy should look at Germany and see how they develop their young players.

[plowking]

Dude, not getting back on defense has nothing to do with the disallowed goal but with quicker german players (both with their feet and their head). It is not if England did not dominate the last 15 minutes of the first and first 10 minutes of the second half anyway even without the disallowed goal. Coulda woulda shoulda, the 2-2 might also have triggered another reaction for the german team and they might have scored 5 straight, who the **** knows?

No...

England pushed numbers forward, hence getting killed on the counter attack. What is so hard to understand?

[plowking]

As much as I hate Argentina, I hope they kick the crap out of Germany.

If Mexico make it through, even more so.

[iamgine]

I've misjudged England. They suck really bad. Horribly predictable and disgustingly lazy defense. Even lowly Ghana had a better showing yesterday. I expected much better from Capello. England was completely outplayed by the Germans, disallowed goal or not.

[hookul]

No...

England pushed numbers forward, hence getting killed on the counter attack. What is so hard to understand?

No, the two counterattack goals for germany where simply due to the german players outrunning the english defensive players. The attack situation for england were both so that enough english players were left on the defensive end. It is totally usual to have an even number of defensive playera and strikers when the counterattacks comes after e.g. a corner, a freekick, etc. the english players just didnt get their asses back quickly enough.

[macmac]

As much as I hate Argentina, I hope they kick the crap out of Germany.

If Mexico make it through, even more so.

I doubt mexico makes it though but that line is ugly I'm not gonna touch it...

Argentina vs Germany is gonna be a beautiful game....open, team-oriented football is gonna make for a classic

[Fatal9]

Germany..........................England
17(6) Shots (on Goal) 18(7)
4 Corner Kicks 6
45% Time of Possession 55%

^ no surprise here. Germany got dominated after the first ~20ish minutes. England was all over them. The third goal took the life out of them, and you have to wonder if defenders would be that far up the pitch if the game was 2-2. The defending was shit, but it's a completely different game with a tie. Upson had no business being on the field.

[bada bing]

England's defense was extremely weak. There were so many times where they just left the german players open.

Also the italians and others should look at Germany. They dont flop or waste time. Played with discipline the entire game.

Argentina is gonna have issues with this German offense as well. Their defense is weak too.

[Knuck the Ficks]

Some posters (I won't mention who) should just stick to Kobe dickriding instead of analysing a sport they know nothing about.

[Knuck the Ficks]

Germany..........................England
17(6) Shots (on Goal) 18(7)
4 Corner Kicks 6
45% Time of Possession 55%

^ no surprise here. Germany got dominated after the first ~20ish minutes. England was all over them. The third goal took the life out of them, and you have to wonder if defenders would be that far up the pitch if the game was 2-2. The defending was shit, but it's a completely different game with a tie. Upson had no business being on the field.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Nanners]

Germany..........................England
17(6) Shots (on Goal) 18(7)
4 Corner Kicks 6
45% Time of Possession 55%

^ no surprise here. Germany got dominated after the first ~20ish minutes. England was all over them. The third goal took the life out of them, and you have to wonder if defenders would be that far up the pitch if the game was 2-2. The defending was shit, but it's a completely different game with a tie. Upson had no business being on the field.

No point in trying to re-write history now. You have been exposed as a gutless supporter of the overrated english excuse for a soccer team. Now i fully understand why your panties were so sandy after the USA played to a draw against the english. Its pretty sad that the english have been exposed for being as bad as the USA at soccer.

[DaniloGallinari]

Some posters (I won't mention who) should just stick to Kobe dickriding instead of analysing a sport they know nothing about.

Exactly. :applause:

[bada bing]

btw i am so fcking glad england lost. Now english fans can sit and read the newspapers to figure out what went wrong. Well deserved loss. The most overhyped team in the world in any sport.

[Yuki Nagato]

Germany..........................England
17(6) Shots (on Goal) 18(7)
4 Corner Kicks 6
45% Time of Possession 55%

^ no surprise here. Germany got dominated after the first ~20ish minutes. England was all over them. The third goal took the life out of them, and you have to wonder if defenders would be that far up the pitch if the game was 2-2. The defending was shit, but it's a completely different game with a tie. Upson had no business being on the field.

How about watching the game?

[bada bing]

No point in trying to re-write history now. You have been exposed as a gutless supporter of the overrated english excuse for a soccer team. Now i fully understand why your panties were so sandy after the USA played to a draw against the english. Its pretty sad that the english have been exposed for being as bad as the USA at soccer.

lol. i know. atleast the US isn't overhyped like this lazy pathetic english team. These idiot fans come into every worldcup thinking England is gonna destroy every team they play by 5 goals.

[Knuck the Ficks]

loool

Check any betting line right now, they all have England as the slight favorites. Apparently you know something the rest of the world doesn't. I can see Germany really wooed you in that 4-0 thrashing of Australia :oldlol:
I still can't believe you tried to use the betting line as some sort of argument :oldlol:

England betting lines are notoriously off because of the way their supporters pound them.

[hookul]

Germany..........................England
17(6) Shots (on Goal) 18(7)
4 Corner Kicks 6
45% Time of Possession 55%

^ no surprise here. Germany got dominated after the first ~20ish minutes. England was all over them. The third goal took the life out of them, and you have to wonder if defenders would be that far up the pitch if the game was 2-2. The defending was shit, but it's a completely different game with a tie. Upson had no business being on the field.

Dear Lord, you are a joke. Aren't you the same nutcase that got mad when people called Donovan better than Rooney based on stats and now you come in here with this bullshit and actually start with meaningless stats to *********e yourself to sleep?

[Knuck the Ficks]

bump.

Rooney will have a good game tomorrow imo. German defense has been nothing special so far, and Mertesacker doesn't have the pace to stay with Rooney.

LMAO. The German defense sucked and Rooney was completely anonymous. I told you this would happen but you wouldn't listen. Now go back to Kobe and leave the football discussion to those who are either knowledgeable or willing to learn.