ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard

[YAWN]

:roll: :roll:

Is anyone else seeing this on ESPN right now?

Bynum & Gasol on the market.

UGH, nm just saw it is Chris Broussards sources.

[stallionaire]

It won't happen. Why are these ridiculous trade rumors cropping up several times a day?

[YAWN]

Bynum + filler for Dwight
Gasol + filler for Chris Paul

hmm..

[LBJMVP]

:roll: :roll:

Is anyone else seeing this on ESPN right now?

Bynum & Gasol on the market.

UGH, nm just saw it is Chris Broussards sources.

yup, i just made a thread at the same time as you.

i honestly wouldnt be surprised if it happened.

[The Macho Man]

Whens the last time Broussard has been right?

Would be quite a trio though:eek:

[Simple Jack]

I wonder how many of the same people who criticized Miami coming together, specifically LeBron, and how his future rings won't "count", would maintain the same argument should this actually happen. My guess? none of them.

[YAWN]

yup, i just made a thread at the same time as you.

i honestly wouldnt be surprised if it happened.

The money sort of makes sense, but I don't think they will trade Gasol. which I agree with.

But if Kupchak can turn always injured Bynum into Dwight Howard.. The man should get a giant statue outside of Staples.

Salaries:
Bynum $15 mil per year
Gasol $18 mil per year
Dwight $18 mil per year
Paul $16 mil per year

[Lebron23]

I wonder how many of the same people who criticized Miami coming together, specifically LeBron, and how his future rings won't "count", would maintain the same argument should this actually happen. My guess? none of them.

I think they are finally going to Shut the F*ck up. Good trade for the Lakers. I really want to see this team play the Heat in the Finals. It sucks that CP3 and Dwight won't win an NBA MVP Award.

Who's going to be the Batman and Robin for the Lakers?

[The Macho Man]

I wonder how many of the same people who criticized Miami coming together, specifically LeBron, and how his future rings won't "count", would maintain the same argument should this actually happen. My guess? none of them.

As a Laker fan, it almost wouldn't be enjoyable rooting for them. Almost

[EvanW]

I don't see why it's hard to imagine them trading Gasol.

Have we all forgotten how crappy he looked last year? He's on the block imo.

[ballsohard247]

I wonder how many of the same people who criticized Miami coming together, specifically LeBron, and how his future rings won't "count", would maintain the same argument should this actually happen. My guess? none of them.
This

[christian1923]

Haha 10 rings for kobe! GOAT

[Lebron23]

Haha 10 rings for kobe! GOAT

With Dwight Howard as the Batman of this team. Dwight was the superior player last season.

[Fatal9]

Don't want to see either on the Lakers as a Kobe and NBA fan.

[Doranku]

I wonder how many of the same people who criticized Miami coming together, specifically LeBron, and how his future rings won't "count", would maintain the same argument should this actually happen. My guess? none of them.

How is collusion even remotely similar to trading? What a stupid post.

LeBron and Bosh agreeing to join forces with Wade in Miami during their free agency =/= Team management improving their team through trades

[bizil]

The thing is these teams don't want to lose CP or Howard for nothing. And if they won't sign an extension for certain teams, then what choice to teams have? Now if some time don't mind renting them for a season than cool. However ideally, u would want something in return. So there's a better chance than some think that this CAN happen. A team like the Knicks don't have the pieces on the roster to get Paul. Not saying that other don't have better deals out there, but they have more to offer than many teams as well.

[christian1923]

With Dwight Howard as the Batman of this team. Dwight was the superior player last season.

lol on the magic, this is laker town kid. kobe will still be the man

[Lebron23]

How is collusion even remotely similar to trading? What a stupid post.

LeBron and Bosh agreeing to join forces with Wade in Miami during their free agency =/= Team management improving their team through trades


Bull$hit

[YAWN]

With Dwight Howard as the Batman of this team. Dwight was the superior player last season.
:lol

Kobe would still be the #1 guy on offense. Though Dwight will get at least an extra 4 points a game off of D Fish missed layups.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

I would make a distinction between Kobe and Lebron because if Kobe plays on a super team he would have done so after already winning a grip of championships. Lebron couldn't beat em, so he joined em. Either way I'm not a guy who is in the habit of downplaying championships. If the Heat win some they win some. Superteam or not. The 96 Bulls were a Superteam.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

lol on the magic, this is laker town kid. kobe will still be the man


if this happens....they just need to give the trophies to Lakers right now

*** 3 Vs REAL 3....

[Lebron23]

lol on the magic, this is laker town kid. kobe will still be the man


Tell that to Dwight Howard and CP3. It Kobe won't sacrifice his FG's attempts per game this team ain't going anywhere. The Magic have some horrible GM's if they didn't ask to include Gasol on the Howard and Bynum trade.

[miles berg]

The Lakers could actually pull this off...easily.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

I would make a distinction between Kobe and Lebron because if Kobe plays on a super team he would have done so after already winning a grip of championships. Lebron couldn't beat em, so he joined em. Either way I'm not a guy who is in the habit of downplaying championships. If the Heat win some they win some. Superteam or not. The 96 Bulls were a Superteam.

if this goes down...they aint winning sh!t....who is going to guard CP3 and D12?

[Rowe]

This is pretty ridiculous for Broussard's standards.

So Gasol, Bynum, Odom, & Peace are on the Trade Block? OK.

We all knew that.

[KBryant24]

I wonder how many of the same people who criticized Miami coming together, specifically LeBron, and how his future rings won't "count", would maintain the same argument should this actually happen. My guess? none of them.
honestly,
kobe has already earned his rings and respect
howard has already proved that he can't carry a team and be the guy
if anything it only hurts cp3s legacy, but at the same time once kobe retires this will be pauls team

[PejaNowitzki]

http://i40.tinypic.com/s33rqw.gif

[christian1923]

Tell that to Dwight Howard and CP3. It Kobe won't sacrifice his FG's attempts per game this team ain't going anywhere. The Magic have some horrible GM's if they didn't ask to include Gasol on the Howard and Bynum trade.
haha he wont shoot as much but eryone will know whos team it is, especially when the game is on the line

what can they get better than pau or bynum for howard?

[KBryant24]

Tell that to Dwight Howard and CP3. It Kobe won't sacrifice his FG's attempts per game this team ain't going anywhere. The Magic have some horrible GM's if they didn't ask to include Gasol on the Howard and Bynum trade.
kobe respects cp3's work ethic and drive....
as long as howard plays D and dominates the paint he will get his opportunities

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Tell that to Dwight Howard and CP3. It Kobe won't sacrifice his FG's attempts per game this team ain't going anywhere. The Magic have some horrible GM's if they didn't ask to include Gasol on the Howard and Bynum trade.

lol..this kid is literally crying thinking of this sh1t going down...his *** 3 wont win anything...Sorry Bruh....I hope you sleep tonight

[Burgz]

BREAKING NEWS:

NBA teams like good players, will try and trade for them

[The Macho Man]

How is collusion even remotely similar to trading? What a stupid post.

LeBron and Bosh agreeing to join forces with Wade in Miami during their free agency =/= Team management improving their team through trades

I mean Paul and Howard would pretty much have to agree to it. It's not that much different. I never had a big problem with the Heat joining up. I just hated them because f*ck Lebron.

[DFish]

Did I call this or what? (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240896)

Trust me when I say it's happening. My source is supremely reliable.

[Lebron23]

haha he wont shoot as much but eryone will know whos team it is, especially when the game is on the line

what can they get better than pau or bynum for howard?


Clippers have a lot of trade assets on their roster.

[The Macho Man]

BREAKING NEWS:

NBA teams like good players, will try and trade for them

Source?

[christian1923]

Clippers have a lot of trade assets on their roster.

lol eric gordon and jordan and the wolves are nice, but then howard has to sign an extension. doubt it

[Lebron23]

lol..this kid is literally crying thinking of this sh1t going down...his *** 3 wont win anything...Sorry Bruh....I hope you sleep tonight


It won't happen. And you guys still need to beat the OKC Thunder and a well coached team like the Grizzlies in the playoffs.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Clippers have a lot of trade assets on their roster.

lol...nightmares much tonight?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

It won't happen. And you guys still need to beat the OKC Thunder and a well coached team like the Grizzlies in the playoffs.

lol ....:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[mountainmamba]

Lakers Fans- Look at all the evidence..this is definitely happening

Non Laker Fans- Yea right keep dreaming this a joke

[Lebron23]

lol...nightmares much tonight?


The Heat trio already has one year of experience playing together. They might even have a much deeper bench this season.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

Did I call this or what? (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240896)

Trust me when I say it's happening. My source is supremely reliable.

Don't tease me now. lol. Toying with the Lakers is like toying with my emotions. I'll be the first to rep you when it goes down.

[rhythmic]

This would not only solidify LA as arguably the best team in the NBA; but it will make them a contender for the next six years at least.

Both Paul & Howard are only 26 years of age.
Howard, Okafor, Barnes, Bryant & Paul
Bynum for Howard
Gasol & Odom for Okafor & Paul


Bynum has a team option on his 4th year, so Orlando can choose to let him go and free-up space for free agency; or keep him if he does well for them. New Orleans will most likely use Odom & Gasol for bait, and send them off to a contender in need of their services.

It could actually happen. :oldlol:

[Kobr]

if

http://i.imgur.com/5azUq.png

this

http://i.imgur.com/2Nzpx.png

happens

http://i.imgur.com/1tEK1.png

[Dengness9]

the fact that so many people are taking this serious is truly embarrassing to me as an insane NBA obsessed fan.

There is no chance of this happening but yet idiots are gobbling up Chris Broussards BS like they always do.


As much as I love NBA rumors, I'm starting to get really sick and tired of this shit. Its not even funny reading how many Lakers fans on espn.com actually think this is happening.

Conceited is not even the word for some of these ppl.

[Nets fan 93]

The Heat trio already has one year of experience playing together. They might even have a much deeper bench this season.
They should focus on 5 consistent starters before a bench.

[skan72]

How is collusion even remotely similar to trading? What a stupid post.

LeBron and Bosh agreeing to join forces with Wade in Miami during their free agency =/= Team management improving their team through trades

Agreed with this. And, neither Bryant, Howard, or Paul is going to do an hour long special about how they're taking their talents to the City of Angels. That's the kicker.

[Dengness9]

Wow, after reading even a page of this thread.


Lakers fans are so delusional is actually just sad.


What happens when neither of these guys land with Lakers????


Breaking News...... Bulls looking to trade rights to Brian Scalabrine for Melo and Amare

[Lebron23]

LeBron actually donated the money to charity.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38154289/LeBron_The_Decision_Will_Generate_2_5_Million_For_ Boys_Girls_Club

[Kobr]

Wow, after reading even a page of this thread.


Lakers fans are so delusional is actually just sad.


What happens when neither of these guys land with Lakers????


Breaking News...... Bulls looking to trade rights to Brian Scalabrine for Melo and Amare

IT'S HAPPENIN' BRO!!! GET EXCITED

[KBryant24]

The Heat trio already has one year of experience playing together. They might even have a much deeper bench this season.
if this happens we will be entering the greatest era in NBA history
it will be
kobe,paul, howard
VS
James,wade, bosh
for years to come
we truly are lucky as laker and heat fans lol

[oh the horror]

Wow, after reading even a page of this thread.


Lakers fans are so delusional is actually just sad.


What happens when neither of these guys land with Lakers????


Breaking News...... Bulls looking to trade rights to Brian Scalabrine for Melo and Amare



How are the fans delusional? Lakers front office have pulled off some absolutely amazing moves over the years dude. The reality is....it IS being thrown around in rumors, and there are murmurs out there....so it isnt like this is something the fans just fabricated out of thin air.



I doubt it's happening, but with the front office....you never can tell.

[oh the horror]

if this happens we will be entering the greatest era in NBA history
it will be
kobe,paul, howard
VS
James,wade, bosh
for years to come
we truly are lucky as laker and heat fans lol



Dont forget the stars on the Knicks too. There would be some epic ratings this year for sure.

[Lebron23]

if this happens we will be entering the greatest era in NBA history
it will be
kobe,paul, howard
VS
James,wade, bosh
for years to come
we truly are lucky as laker and heat fans lol


Heat vs. Lakers = Ratings.

[rhythmic]

How are the fans delusional? Lakers front office have pulled off some absolutely amazing moves over the years dude. The reality is....it IS being thrown around in rumors, and there are murmurs out there....so it isnt like this is something the fans just fabricated out of thin air.



I doubt it's happening, but with the front office....you never can tell.

Having a stacked team doesn't only benefit us on the basketball court... :cheers:

[KBryant24]

Heat vs. Lakers = Ratings.
ratings = happy stern

[oh the horror]

Heat vs. Lakers = Ratings.



I cant even imagine those ratings. Highest of all time if both were to make the finals?


Of course this is all a nice little dream. I HIGHLY doubt even LA could pull off this deal...


But, one can play around and think about it....I mean christ...storied franchise like the Lakers with that team, against the big three in Miami? WOW.

[Sarcastic]

Heat vs. Lakers = Ratings.

I thought the league wanted parity? Don't they want Sacramento vs Milwaukee in the finals?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

the fact that so many people are taking this serious is truly embarrassing to me as an insane NBA obsessed fan.

There is no chance of this happening but yet idiots are gobbling up Chris Broussards BS like they always do.


As much as I love NBA rumors, I'm starting to get really sick and tired of this shit. Its not even funny reading how many Lakers fans on espn.com actually think this is happening.

Conceited is not even the word for some of these ppl.

lol...a guy who wont trade Deng for Kobe before Lakers won back to back...old timers know what a retard fcuk u r

[lakerfreak]

This wouldn't happen unless the lakers added a lamar in the mix.

Bynum for Dwight can happen straight up because Bynum's value is still high considering he performed well last season without being injured much. The lakers will have to pick of the two most likely. Pau Gasol, a man who has played in the league for a very long time, is now at normal trade value, in a few years he will be deemed "old", which is why if the lakers wanted Gasol for Paul, there would have to be significant changes to that deal (i.e. add Odom).

Even then, the hornets would probably still reject that. The lakers don't have many young attractive pieces to pulling this off, and if they did pull this off, the team will have a completely new identity. Say goodbye to the supporting cast of Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Artest...and maybe even more...

Seeing that there is a new coach with a new system, i guess identity changed a while ago.

[DFish]

To put this into probabilistic perspective...

Dwight to the Lakers is at least 93.80%+ chance right now.
Paul to the Lakers before signing Dwight is only around a 44% chance.
Paul to the Lakers after signing Dwight is around a 83.77% chance.

It's happening.

[BEAST Griffin]

Kobe would be the third best player on that team.

:roll:

[talkingconch]

Bynum + filler for Dwight
Gasol + filler for Chris Paul

hmm..

http://i.imgur.com/eSX5q.gif

[YAWN]

Can the Knicks afford to sign Deron Williams next season if this goes through? :oldlol:

[ballsohard247]

Knicks are :wtf: right about now.

[DFish]

This wouldn't happen unless the lakers added a lamar in the mix.

My source does say Odom and Artest will more than likely be included in the trades.

Look for Turkoglu and possibly Ariza to be in play as replacements. Ariza probably willing to take pay cut.

[YAWN]

which is why if the lakers wanted Gasol for Paul, there would have to be significant changes to that deal (i.e. add Odom).


Or a third team who is a borderline contender would send picks & young talent to NO to add Gasol and become a contender.

[lakerfreak]

My source does say Odom and Artest will more than likely be included in the trades.

Look for Turkoglu and possibly Ariza to be in play as replacements. Ariza probably willing to take pay cut.

How? Ariza is not a free agent. Plus he is still bitter towards LA.

[donald_trump]

kobe winning 3 more titles as 3rd fiddle will push him above jordan....



ahahaha

[mountainmamba]

My source does say Odom and Artest will more than likely be included in the trades.

Look for Turkoglu and possibly Ariza to be in play as replacements. Ariza probably willing to take pay cut.


I know you won't give up your "source" but may i ask why he is a dependable source of information? What connection does he/she have to the nba world?

[lakerfreak]

Or a third team who is a borderline contender would send picks & young talent to NO to add Gasol and become a contender.

And what would THEY get in return from the lakers?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

This wouldn't happen unless the lakers added a lamar in the mix.

Bynum for Dwight can happen straight up because Bynum's value is still high considering he performed well last season without being injured much. The lakers will have to pick of the two most likely. Pau Gasol, a man who has played in the league for a very long time, is now at normal trade value, in a few years he will be deemed "old", which is why if the lakers wanted Gasol for Paul, there would have to be significant changes to that deal (i.e. add Odom).

Even then, the hornets would probably still reject that. The lakers don't have many young attractive pieces to pulling this off, and if they did pull this off, the team will have a completely new identity. Say goodbye to the supporting cast of Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Artest...and maybe even more...

Seeing that there is a new coach with a new system, i guess identity changed a while ago.

I would trade Bynum/odom for D12/Hedo(take bad contract) give Magic 25mil expiring contracts

3 way trade for CP3
Pau to minny
D William/wes johnson/ webster to NO Hornets
CP3 to Lakers

[Kobe 4 The Win]

My source does say Odom and Artest will more than likely be included in the trades.

Look for Turkoglu and possibly Ariza to be in play as replacements. Ariza probably willing to take pay cut.

I'd love to see Ariza back in a Laker jersey.

[talkingconch]

This wouldn't happen unless the lakers added a lamar in the mix.

Bynum for Dwight can happen straight up because Bynum's value is still high considering he performed well last season without being injured much. The lakers will have to pick of the two most likely. Pau Gasol, a man who has played in the league for a very long time, is now at normal trade value, in a few years he will be deemed "old", which is why if the lakers wanted Gasol for Paul, there would have to be significant changes to that deal (i.e. add Odom).

Even then, the hornets would probably still reject that. The lakers don't have many young attractive pieces to pulling this off, and if they did pull this off, the team will have a completely new identity. Say goodbye to the supporting cast of Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Artest...and maybe even more...

Seeing that there is a new coach with a new system, i guess identity changed a while ago.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=86vyl85

http://www.rowsdowr.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Bert_snaps.gif

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

How? Ariza is not a free agent. Plus he is still bitter towards LA.


be bitter or win championship? i prefer championship

[KBryant24]

the way i see it is
bynum/odom for howard/turkeyglues contract
then
gasol/1st round pick/filler for paul/emekas contract

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

To put this into probabilistic perspective...

Dwight to the Lakers is at least 93.80%+ chance right now.
Paul to the Lakers before signing Dwight is only around a 44% chance.
Paul to the Lakers after signing Dwight is around a 83.77% chance.

It's happening.


where the fcuk dd you get those numbers from?

[rhythmic]

where the fcuk dd you get those numbers from?

Out of his ass.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=86vyl85

http://www.rowsdowr.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Bert_snaps.gif

I'm laughing my ass off behind that gif. Repped.

[talkingconch]

the way i see it is
bynum/odom for howard/turkeyglues contract
then
gasol/1st round pick/filler for paul/emekas contract

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=86vyl85

[YAWN]

And what would THEY get in return from the lakers?
in essence the young talent & picks that a player like gasol can command.

Or they throw in Okafor and his long bad contract and the lakers toss in Walton & Ebanks or something like that. Walton would prob retire so he'd come off their books.

I don't think NO would want Odom due to the big price tag. They're looking to shed the money bags and rebuild.

[lakerfreak]

[/B]


be bitter or win championship? i prefer championship

Its the same as Shaq leaving the heat and completely trashing the organization. Ariza made himself appear as some sort of rape victim after we went after artest. His problem is that he cannot separate the business aspect from his hopes and desires. Do you think that 2 seasons away from the lakers made him mature? Lastly, Ariza was a triangle offense player. This is a brand new system. Do you think he will fit perfectly like he did last time?

[donald_trump]

My source does say Odom and Artest will more than likely be included in the trades.

Look for Turkoglu and possibly Ariza to be in play as replacements. Ariza probably willing to take pay cut.

:oldlol:

your source? just like you ran into megan fox right? :oldlol:

[lakerfreak]

in essence the young talent & picks that a player like gasol can command.

Or they throw in Okafor and his long bad contract and the lakers toss in Walton & Ebanks or something like that. Walton would prob retire so he'd come off their books.

I don't think NO would want Odom due to the big price tag. They're looking to shed the money bags and rebuild.

Okay so I have a question. Could we trade Walton to them, and they would legally use Walton as their amnesty cut?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Its the same as Shaq leaving the heat and completely trashing the organization. Ariza made himself appear as some sort of rape victim after we went after artest. His problem is that he cannot separate the business aspect from his hopes and desires. Do you think that 2 seasons away from the lakers made him mature? Lastly, Ariza was a triangle offense player. This is a brand new system. Do you think he will fit perfectly like he did last time?

na i wouldnt look much into it...and I think the guy who says Ariza might be involved is faking i think because he is saying he will take a paycut

he is already under contract with hornets

[BankShot]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=86vyl85

So the Magic give up Howard and have to pay Luke Walton $12 million?? Sounds fair

[oh the horror]

Guys....I'd be more than careful with people who claim to have "sources"


Come on now.

[BGriffin's Dad]

I was at a beat writer's party this weekend with the GMs of NO and ORL. We were all pretty blitzed, but they told me D12 and CP3 are DEFINITELY headed to the Lakers!

:oldlol:

[KBryant24]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=86vyl85
i had it this way
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=83olgw8
but same basic idea
prob need to throw a first round pick to NO though

[ballsohard247]

Guys....I'd be more than careful with people who claim to have "sources"


Come on now.
:lol

[DFish]

:oldlol:

Keep on laughing. I'll be having the last laugh when Paul, Kobe and Dwight walk out onto the floor in purple and gold to play the Bulls on the 25th.

[lakerfreak]

So the Magic give up Howard and have to pay Luke Walton $12 million?? Sounds fair

Well to be fair, a few years back there was a poster who had a "source" about how the lakers were working on deal to bring in a "star point guard from the east" and he mentioned "my source wouldnt lie". A week later, lo and behold, there were legitimate attempts to bring Jason Kidd to the lake show. So I try not to rule out any possibility.

[rhythmic]

This is totally realistic and plausible.

To LA: Dwight Howard & Hedo Turkoglu
To Orlando: Lamar Odom & Andrew Bynum

To LA: Chris Paul & Emeka Okafor
To LA Clippers: Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza & Luke Walton
To New Orleans: 1st round pick (from LAC), Mo Williams, Aminu & Chris Kaman (expiring contract)

NO gets a pretty solid point guard in return, lottery pick, and a 12 million dollar expiring contract. I mean it's not a "terrible" deal for them. It certainly makes more sense then them keeping Gasol.

Financially it works (http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine)

[The Macho Man]

Keep on laughing. I'll be having the last laugh when Paul, Kobe and Dwight walk out onto the floor in purple and gold to play the Bulls on the 25th.

You're being ridiculous, they will be wearing white.

[All Net]

the fact that so many people are taking this serious is truly embarrassing to me as an insane NBA obsessed fan.

There is no chance of this happening but yet idiots are gobbling up Chris Broussards BS like they always do.


As much as I love NBA rumors, I'm starting to get really sick and tired of this shit. Its not even funny reading how many Lakers fans on espn.com actually think this is happening.

Conceited is not even the word for some of these ppl.
It may likely not happen but it's foolish to think it can't happen.

[christian1923]

Lakers gets cp3 and okafor
Hornets get Marc gasol and oj mayo
Grizzlies get Pau gasol

BAM LOL

[Dengness9]

lol...a guy who wont trade Deng for Kobe before Lakers won back to back...old timers know what a retard fcuk u r


Get your facts straight. First off, some proof that I ever said that about Deng??? Yeah that's what I thought.

You must be confused with what Kobe said himself...he wouldn't go to the Bulls w/out Deng being there!!!! ****in idiot.

It's more than funny watching you ask "Dfish" for details when it's clear dude is bullshitting hard.

I'll still be here when none of this shit happens, so don't run away when I told you so.

Lol at you saying "oldtimers". You have no idea what you are talking about.

[JohnnyFord]

lakers arent going to get d12 or cp3! funny to see all these laker "fans" or should i say bandwagoners saying theyre gonna get both in a lobsided trade like the gasol trade.

[BEAST Griffin]

This is totally realistic and plausible.

To LA: Dwight Howard & Hedo Turkoglu
To Orlando: Lamar Odom & Andrew Bynum

To LA: Chris Paul & Emeka Okafor
To LA Clippers: Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza & Luke Walton
To New Orleans: 1st round pick (from LAC), Mo Williams, Aminu & Chris Kaman (expiring contract)

NO gets a pretty solid point guard in return, lottery pick, and a 12 million dollar expiring contract. I mean it's not a "terrible" deal for them. It certainly makes more sense then them keeping Gasol.

Financially it works (http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine)

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The Clippers will trade the Minny 1st round pick, Chris Kaman's expiring contact, Mo Williams and Aminu for Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza just so that Lakers can get Chris Paul???

Clippers don't even have use for Pau Gasol.

If anything the Clippers will make a direct trade with the Hornets to get Chris Paul.

Wasting all the trade assets for the Lakers benefit...RIGHT

Clippers would rather keep the Minny 1st round pick in a stacked draft than such a garbage trade.

Give me some of what you're smoking. LMFAO.

[LakersReign]

Right now, I'd take the trade rumors for what they are. I agree with trying to get Paul, but disagree with trading either Bynum or Gasol. Their length is what has gotten them through these past seasons, and I don't see them trading it away just like that. Even if it is for a Dwight Howard. The team as a whole underperformed last season, but that's no reason to blow it up and start over. At least not yet anyway.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Get your facts straight. First off, some proof that I ever said that about Deng??? Yeah that's what I thought.

You must be confused with what Kobe said himself...he wouldn't go to the Bulls w/out Deng being there!!!! ****in idiot.

It's more than funny watching you ask "Dfish" for details when it's clear dude is bullshitting hard.

I'll still be here when none of this shit happens, so don't run away when I told you so.

Lol at you saying "oldtimers". You have no idea what you are talking about.

lol you have lost credibility dude...i remember that summer when you were hammering ish with full of sh!t

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Right now, I'd take the trade rumors for what they are. I agree with trying to get Paul, but disagree with trading either Bynum or Gasol. Their length is what has gotten them through these past seasons, and I don't see them trading it away just like that. Even if it is for a Dwight Howard. The team as a whole underperformed last season, but that's no reason to blow it up and start over. At least not yet anyway.

they are old and slow man..other than bynum everybody is over 30

I would say get some value for Pau now when he has some ....another horrible playoffs and he becomes a burden

Bynum is a knee injury waiting to happen....trade him while other gm's see potential in him

[Dengness9]

lol you have lost credibility dude...i remember that summer when you were hammering ish with full of sh!t



Lost credibility on an internet message board???? Yea cuz anyone on here has real credibility???? get the **** outta here with that bullshit.

So i guess Dfish has credibility too, ok got it.

I remember tonight when you were hammering ISH "with full of shit".

Suck my dick, thanks.

[BurningHammer]

It will be interesting on how Lakers are gonna treat Gasol and Bynum. One is gonna go before another, that's for sure. But how the team is gonna maximize their values, both short- and long-term.

[oh the horror]

they are old and slow man..other than bynum everybody is over 30

I would say get some value for Pau now when he has some ....another horrible playoffs and he becomes a burden

Bynum is a knee injury waiting to happen....trade him while other gm's see potential in him



As far as Im concerned, they cant ship Bynum out of LA fast enough. The kid's knees are made of rice crispies.

I dont know how anyone would take a chance on that guy. Am I the only person that doesnt trust in his styrofoam legs?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Lost credibility on an internet message board???? Yea cuz anyone on here has real credibility???? get the **** outta here with that bullshit.

So i guess Dfish has credibility too, ok got it.

I remember tonight when you were hammering ISH "with full of shit".

Suck my dick, thanks.

lol fA1G....tell it to Lebron23 he might do it....

[DFish]

:lol at this Bulls fan freaking out about the Lakers getting real stacked soon.

[JohnnyFord]

Lost credibility on an internet message board???? Yea cuz anyone on here has real credibility???? get the **** outta here with that bullshit.

So i guess Dfish has credibility too, ok got it.

I remember tonight when you were hammering ISH "with full of shit".

Suck my dick, thanks.
these laker"fans" arent even real fans they're all just bandwagoners who think they can get cp3 and d12 with their shitty roster because they got gasol in a lobsided trade. seriously laker fans are pathetic you guys are the fakest fans, i bet all of u were hating on the lakers back when they sucked and now you guys just all love them and everything because they won a championship. yall are just FAKER fans

[Fiasco]

BREAKING: 29 Teams looking to trade for both CP3 & Howard.

[Zedja]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:banana: :banana: :cheers:

[oh the horror]

BREAKING: 29 Teams looking to trade for both CP3 & Howard.



This is why I dont see it happening. I COULD see Dwight happening, but both? :lol


TOO many teams in the mix, and others have more attractive pieces to offer...and younger pieces as well. Just cant see it going down in LA's favor like that to acquire both. I'd literally be shocked out of my mind.

[Sarcastic]

This is why I dont see it happening. I COULD see Dwight happening, but both? :lol


TOO many teams in the mix, and others have more attractive pieces to offer...and younger pieces as well. Just cant see it going down in LA's favor like that to acquire both. I'd literally be shocked out of my mind.

I don't think there is 1 team in all the NBA that has enough pieces to trade for both of them.

[R.I.P.]

Cool.

Kobe and Gasol to Orlando?

Odom and Bynum to New Orleans?

[oh the horror]

I don't think there is 1 team in all the NBA that has enough pieces to trade for both of them.



Unless of course, they'd be willing to completely part ways with what they have in terms of equal value, to change the face of their respective teams....

[All Net]

This is why I dont see it happening. I COULD see Dwight happening, but both? :lol


TOO many teams in the mix, and others have more attractive pieces to offer...and younger pieces as well. Just cant see it going down in LA's favor like that to acquire both. I'd literally be shocked out of my mind.
Im not going to be greedy I would be happy with one

[Sarcastic]

Unless of course, they'd be willing to completely part ways with what they have in terms of equal value, to change the face of their respective teams....

What team? The Heat?
Lebron for DH12, and Wade for CP3?

Ok maybe that is 1 team.

[oh the horror]

What team? The Heat?
Lebron for DH12, and Wade for CP3?

Ok maybe that is 1 team.



That's pretty much all I could think of in terms of equal amounts of talent, and however the numbers add up.

[oh the horror]

Im not going to be greedy I would be happy with one



I just want Howard. That seems to be possible too, so I keep my fingers crossed on that one. It also helps that Dwight really wants to come here.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I think the Lakers can get Dwight, but not CP3 aswell

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://i40.tinypic.com/s33rqw.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[rhythmic]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The Clippers will trade the Minny 1st round pick, Chris Kaman's expiring contact, Mo Williams and Aminu for Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza just so that Lakers can get Chris Paul???

Clippers don't even have use for Pau Gasol.

If anything the Clippers will make a direct trade with the Hornets to get Chris Paul.

Wasting all the trade assets for the Lakers benefit...RIGHT

Clippers would rather keep the Minny 1st round pick in a stacked draft than such a garbage trade.

Give me some of what you're smoking. LMFAO.

What are you talking about?
Of course if Chris Paul will in fact sign an extension with the Clippers, then they could try and trade for him; but I doubt they would land him directly without giving up Eric Gordon.

You don't think Mo Williams, Aminu, Kaman & lottery pick is worth Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza? You have to be kidding me.
Gasol, Griffin, Ariza & Gordon would become an immediate contender. :rolleyes:

[BGriffin's Dad]

I think the Lakers can get Dwight, but not CP3 aswell

as much as I desperately want one to come to the clippers, i'm starting to think whether its possible that dfish can be right... if the lakers get dwight first, i could see that attracting cp3

*shudders*


You don't think Mo Williams, Aminu, Kaman & lottery pick is worth Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza? You have to be kidding me.
Gasol, Griffin, Ariza & Gordon would become an immediate contender. :rolleyes:

if we can't get dwight, i would love to get pau gasol... i'd pull the trigger on that trade too

[JohnnyFord]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Bosnian Sajo]

Bynum/Odom for Howard/Turk

Gasol/Brown/Ebanks for Paul

Paul
Bryant
Artest
Turkoglu
Howard

Make it happen Mitch :bowdown: a guy can dream, eh?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Bynum/Odom for Howard/Turk

Gasol/Brown/Ebanks for Paul

Paul
Bryant
Artest
Turkoglu
Howard

Make it happen Mitch :bowdown: a guy can dream, eh?

I dont want to Give up Odom or Gasol lol
Take our scrubs Orlando and N.O.!

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

I dont want to Give up Odom or Gasol lol
Take our scrubs Orlando and N.O.!

lol

[hammer2010]

How is collusion even remotely similar to trading? What a stupid post.

LeBron and Bosh agreeing to join forces with Wade in Miami during their free agency =/= Team management improving their team through trades

Ok I am a Lakers fan and even I know that's nitpicking. It's both the same thing essentially.

[Sarcastic]

Since everyone is posting pipe dream scenarios, I guess the Knicks should offer Landry Fields for CP3 and Turiaf for Howard.

[SpecialQue]

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y307/sapperific/corndog_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

[rhythmic]

no mo williams aminu kaman and the minny pick is not worth gasol and ariza. YOU have to be kidding or your just high. why would the clippers want gasol whose over 30 when they have blake???

Am I missing something?
Gasol is a finesse player, he'll probably be playing at an All-Star level for another 4-5 years. He has won two championships playing as a center and is a terrific passer. You seriously think Kaman (probably won't re-sign with LAC anyways), Aminu, M. Williams & lottery pick is too much?

You're getting a top five PF in the league, for a role player, a shooting guard playing point guard, an expiring contract and a lottery pick.

More importantly, it gives the Clippers a dangerous trio. They will become a legit threat out west with Pau in the lineup and make a crap load of revenue from ticket sales. I seriously can't be the only person that sees this as a great trade for the Clippers.

But I guess Gasol is only great when it's convenient to bash Kobe, right?

[Bosnian Sajo]

Since everyone is posting pipe dream scenarios, I guess the Knicks should offer Landry Fields for CP3 and Turiaf for Howard.

Except Odom, Bynum, and Gasol are actually quality players........

[Sarcastic]

Except Odom, Bynum, and Gasol are actually quality players........

Still a pipe dream if you think you can turn that into CP3 and DH12.

[YAWN]

Clippers wouldn't do any deal that helps the Lakers get better.

They're not going to go from trying to get CP3 or Dwight to come help them contend in the West, to handing the Lakers NBA Finals for the next 6 years.

[rhythmic]

Still a pipe dream if you think you can turn that into CP3 and DH12.

The Lakers received Caron Butler and Lamar Odom for Shaquille O'Neal seven years ago. You think Dwight Howard isn't worth Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum? If he demands a trade to LA?

[YAWN]

Still a pipe dream if you think you can turn that into CP3 and DH12.
They definitely have the piece to get their pick of one though. :banana:

[BEAST Griffin]

What are you talking about?
Of course if Chris Paul will in fact sign an extension with the Clippers, then they could try and trade for him; but I doubt they would land him directly without giving up Eric Gordon.

You don't think Mo Williams, Aminu, Kaman & lottery pick is worth Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza? You have to be kidding me.
Gasol, Griffin, Ariza & Gordon would become an immediate contender. :rolleyes:

The Clippers don't need Pau Gasol. They don't need Pau Gasol to share the ball with Blake on offense. The Clippers already have more than enough scoring near the paint. And Deandre Jordan is a young, good defender who complements Blake perfectly.

Not to mention the Clippers can get a better SF than Trevor Ariza with their trade assets.

You're literally suggesting the Clippers give up their tremendous trade assets to land Pau Gasol, who's not needed, and Trevor Ariza when they could go for Chris Paul or just keep the team the way it is and trade Kaman's expirer + Mo Williams or young projects for an upgrade at SF and have a high draft pick for the stacked 2012 draft.

[rhythmic]

Clippers wouldn't do any deal that helps the Lakers get better.

They're not going to go from trying to get CP3 or Dwight to come help them contend in the West, to handing the Lakers NBA Finals for the next 6 years.

Wait, so they wouldn't try and acquire a guy like Pau Gasol because Howard and/or Paul are not interested in signing an extension with them?

I am sure if Howard & Paul came out and said they would love to play for the Clippers; I would have never created that hypothetical scenario.

Clippers would be helping themselves, which would be within their control. Howard or Paul not wanting to sign an extension with the Clippers, is NOT in their control.

[Sarcastic]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

You comparing Shaq who was beefing with Kobe and at the end of his prime to Howard who is just starting his peak period?


keep drinking the stuff in ur avatar and post sh!t which doesnt make any sense

[rhythmic]

The Clippers don't need Pau Gasol. They don't need Pau Gasol to share the ball with Blake on offense. The Clippers already have more than enough scoring near the paint. And Deandre Jordan is a young, good defender who complements Blake perfectly.

Not to mention the Clippers can get a better SF than Trevor Ariza with their trade assets.

You're literally suggesting the Clippers give up their tremendous trade assets to land Pau Gasol, who's not needed, and Trevor Ariza when they could go for Chris Paul or just keep the team the way it is and trade Kaman's expirer + Garbage for an upgrade at SF and then have a high draft pick for the stacked 2012 draft.

Ah, I don't agree at all.
Pau Gasol is a stud in this league. If you can acquire him to improve your team tremendously you do it. I love how you're trying to over-value the assets the Clippers are giving up. :rolleyes:

Just two years ago, he was on everyone's top ten list. He is an efficient scorer, great rebounder, good shot blocker and a great play-maker. Most importantly he is very unselfish so I doubt he'd abrupt Griffin's development/touches. Gasol/Griffin alongside Gordon is a dangerous squad, period. I almost spit out my energy drink when I read your rebuttal about "Jordan" being a fine compliment player.

Yeah he's a nice project, but it's not like they're getting rid of him. The different in impact between Pau and Jordan is astonishing. I think many Clipper fans such as yourself would change their minds the minute they see those three on the court together. Pau and Timmy D are the ultimate team-players at the PF/C position.

But we'll agree to disagree, I can tell you despise my trade scenario.

[LakersReign]

they are old and slow man..other than bynum everybody is over 30

I would say get some value for Pau now when he has some ....another horrible playoffs and he becomes a burden

Bynum is a knee injury waiting to happen....trade him while other gm's see potential in him

The same could be said about Greg Oden, but Bynum has at least played more games than he has. The Lakers pulled of a coup by getting Gasol in the first place. I don't see them pulling off another one by signing BOTH Howard and Paul. Eventually, they may get one of them, and like I said before, I'd prefer it be Paul. But they're certainly not going to sign both. :no:

[rhythmic]

You comparing Shaq who was beefing with Kobe and at the end of his prime to Howard who is just starting his peak period?

If Howard wants to leave Orlando, as I am speculating he does; then what's the difference exactly? (between the two issues)

[JohnnyFord]

keep drinking the stuff in ur avatar and post sh!t which doesnt make any sense
keep trolling and being a kobe cockrider

[Sarcastic]

Pau is also 31 and just played like shit last year. He is closer to a declining player than a peak player.

[Clippersfan86]

ESPN reporting that Clippers are trying for the double whammy like the Lakers to get both of these guys. Sources say Lakers have edge of Dwight wanting to play there... but Clippers have edge with CP3.

[Meticode]

This would be interesting...

If this happens New York is doing this... :cry:

[Sarcastic]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

keep trolling and being a kobe cockrider

ok buddy...:cheers:

[BEAST Griffin]

Ah, I don't agree at all.
Pau Gasol is a stud in this league. If you can acquire him to improve your team tremendously you do it. I love how you're trying to over-value the assets the Clippers are giving up. :rolleyes:

Just two years ago, he was on everyone's top ten list. He is an efficient scorer, great rebounder, good shot blocker and a great play-maker. Most importantly he is very unselfish so I doubt he'd abrupt Griffin's development/touches. Gasol/Griffin alongside Gordon is a dangerous squad, period. I almost spit out my energy drink when I read your rebuttal about "Jordan" being a fine compliment player.

Yeah he's a nice project, but it's not like they're getting rid of him. The different in impact between Pau and Jordan is astonishing. I think many Clipper fans such as yourself would change their minds the minute they see those three on the court together. Pau and Timmy D are the ultimate team-players at the PF/C position.

But we'll agree to disagree, I can tell you despise my trade scenario.

You also forget that Pau Gasol is already 31 years old. He's simply not worth it giving up Kaman's expiring contract + Minny 1st round pick.

And Deandre Jordan IS a fine complimentary player. He doesn't need the ball. He just defends and puts left over garbage into the basket.

[brisbaneman]

Dirkules laughs as Kobe cries for help!

[Deuce Bigalow]

Dirkules laughs as Kobe cries for help!

Kobe: 5 rings
Mavs: 1 ring

[bdreason]

the fact that so many people are taking this serious is truly embarrassing to me as an insane NBA obsessed fan.

There is no chance of this happening but yet idiots are gobbling up Chris Broussards BS like they always do.


As much as I love NBA rumors, I'm starting to get really sick and tired of this shit. Its not even funny reading how many Lakers fans on espn.com actually think this is happening.

Conceited is not even the word for some of these ppl.


That's what people said when the Lakers traded Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol.

While I think it's highly unlikely the Lakers land both players, I wouldn't doubt that they land at least one of them.

[YAWN]

Unless he says "Lakers only", the Magic are going to shop him to the highest bidder, and there will be better deals than Bynum and Odom.

have there been better ones offered thus far?

No doubt that some other teams can put together better pieces, but most would have to include untouchable players from their roster..

Then there is also the fact that Dwight has to be willing to commit to an extension before the trade partner is willing to part with their valuable assets.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

That's what people said when the Lakers traded Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol.

While I think it's highly unlikely the Lakers land both players, I wouldn't doubt that they land at least one of them.

i think 1 should be well enough...but man if they get both...its like jackpot

[AMISTILLILL]

Yeah, Chris Broussard is definitely a reliable source :rolleyes:

[blacknapalm]

let's face it: the draw to clippers is playing alongside griffin. beyond that, players will look at ownership, management and coaching. clips fans hate when you him up but the sterling affect is real and you know it.

that said, i see it being extremely difficult for lakers to get both. expect ish to be down for a couple days if it happens :lol

[Meticode]

Dirkules laughs as Kobe cries for help!
This makes no sense.

[OmniStrife]

2004 all over again? Don't they learn?

[blacknapalm]

Yeah, Chris Broussard is definitely a reliable source :rolleyes:

http://troll.me/images/jayz-and-kanye-laughing/chris-broussards-sources.jpg

[All Net]

Dirkules laughs as Kobe cries for help!

Huh?

[CardiacKemba]

Kobe couldn't handle being the second best player on the roster (behind Shaq), how will he fair being the third best? Not ripping on Kobe, but obviously Paul and Howard are superior players to Bryant at this stage in their respective careers. Also Mike Brown wouldn't be able to handle the egos of Bryant and Howard (I don't think CP's is such a problem).

[Simple Jack]

Huh?

You don't understand the context of his joke?

[All Net]

You don't understand the context of his joke?

I understood what he was on about but it was freaking stupid. I would hardly call it a joke either.

[KDthunderup]

lol, both teams can do better then what LA have to offer

[All Net]

lol, both teams can do better then what LA have to offer

Doesn't matter, Orlando/Hornets will only accept deals if Dwight and Paul want to play there.

[sunsfan1357]

Just saw on Sportscenter, Broussard basically said, "Kupchak said he's not doing anything, but you have to think they want to do something." Is that what rumors are based off these days?

[All Net]

Just saw on Sportscenter, Broussard basically said, "Kupchak said he's not doing anything, but you have to think they want to do something." Is that what rumors are based off these days?
There's certainly more to it than that.

[swi7ch]

Broussard is the source. He is as reliable as TMZ.

[bluechox2]

Just saw on Sportscenter, Broussard basically said, "Kupchak said he's not doing anything, but you have to think they want to do something." Is that what rumors are based off these days?

kupchak and broussard at starbucks

kupchak: hey chris, wouldnt it be something paul and howard played on the same team
chris: hold that thought, *turns to twitter on phone*, sources reveal that lakers are close to landing chris paul and dwight howard

[blacknapalm]

kupchak and broussard at starbucks

kupchak: hey chris, wouldnt it be something paul and howard played on the same team
chris: hold that thought, *turns to twitter on phone*, sources reveal that lakers are close to landing chris paul and dwight howard

LOOOOL. stop

[HeyMarkus]

Lebron23 = Biggest d ckrider in the history of the internet

[Jameerthefear]

Why would the Magic accept Dwight for Bynum + scrubs...
I just really don't see this happening. :rolleyes:

[niko]

I think they are finally going to Shut the F*ck up. Good trade for the Lakers. I really want to see this team play the Heat in the Finals. It sucks that CP3 and Dwight won't win an NBA MVP Award.

Who's going to be the Batman and Robin for the Lakers?
Kobe is Batman Everyone else is RObin. Welcome to reality Lebron fan. Kobe's an uber dick but he doesn't allow these type of discussions.

And i can't see it, especially Paul where they don't have the chips. Would make me sick though. BTW< what is NO thinking? They should want literally nothing back for Paul to try to get the first pick. Did you see that kid? They should want picks and salary gone and too totally uber suck.

[bagelred]

To me, it's pretty obvious what needs to happen.

Lakers should trade anyone on their roster to get both Howard and Paul........ANYONE.......including the African American Mamba.

I think it's impossible to get both players otherwise. But Dwight and Paul set the Lakers up for next 7 - 8 years at least. Got to sell high on Kobe before he declines.

I know this WON'T happen, but Lakers should be open to it.

[niko]

To me, it's pretty obvious what needs to happen.

Lakers should trade anyone on their roster to get both Howard and Paul........ANYONE.......including the African American Mamba.

I think it's impossible to get both players otherwise. But Dwight and Paul set the Lakers up for next 7 - 8 years at least. Got to sell high on Kobe before he declines.

I know this WON'T happen, but Lakers should be open to it.
Kobe has a no trade clause. He'd never allow himself to be traded.

[bagelred]

Kobe has a no trade clause. He'd never allow himself to be traded.

Ah......I forgot about that......oh well..........

Like I said, there's NO WAY the Lakers should trade Kobe. But everyone else is fair game.







Nice save bagelred.

[blacknapalm]

Kobe has a no trade clause. He'd never allow himself to be traded.

what about in a 3 way team trade to miami? i always dreamed about what a kobe 3 way would look like. kobe-wade-bron. you would move bron to PF and bosh would just have to shut up and play C. he's good in the post so can he handle multiple positions and will he demand it?

[305Baller]

http://i40.tinypic.com/ehx6dd.jpg

[hoopslife]

Newsflash: The Milwaukee Bucks looking to trade for BOTH CP3 and Dwight.

True, just like the rest of the NBA. But, you would never see a headline like that. It's all about the Lakers in the NBA and it's so freaking annoying.

[Nick Young]

Newsflash: The Milwaukee Bucks looking to trade for BOTH CP3 and Dwight.

True, just like the rest of the NBA. But, you would never see a headline like that. It's all about the Lakers in the NBA and it's so freaking annoying.
Because we are the greatest franchise in the history of the sport

deal with it

[All Net]

Why would the Magic accept Dwight for Bynum + scrubs...
I just really don't see this happening. :rolleyes:
There won't be many better offers from teams dwight would actually want to play for.

[blacknapalm]

orlando will want to dump either arenas or hedo's contract and not even the lakers can absorb that. clips have the most assets for NO will be tempted to do that. as long as cp3 signs off, it could be a go. i wouldn't be surprised if the lakers got one of them. but both? nah

those teams that traded him away should just give way their playoff hopes for the next seven years then.

[niko]

what about in a 3 way team trade to miami? i always dreamed about what a kobe 3 way would look like. kobe-wade-bron. you would move bron to PF and bosh would just have to shut up and play C. he's good in the post so can he handle multiple positions and will he demand it?
Kobe wouldn't do it. For good and bad, Kobe is the man, wants to be the man, will not accept being the man. You've seen it both hurt and help him multiple times. Talent wise, at this point Howard is better player. But he'd be Kobe's puppy (if he goes to NJ, anyone doubt who the leader is? Him or Deron?) Kobe doesn't play well with second alpha dogs.

[niko]

orlando will want to dump either arenas or hedo's contract and not even the lakers can absorb that. clips have the most assets for NO will be tempted to do that. as long as cp3 signs off, it could be a go. i wouldn't be surprised if the lakers got one of them. but both? nah

those teams that traded him away should just give way their playoff hopes for the next seven years then.
Laker trade as situated absorbs Hedo. Net trade does not but i'm sure it's an "opening bid". Any Howard trade would need to.

[Duncan21formvp]

There won't be many better offers from teams dwight would actually want to play for.
Then might as well let his contract expire so that he has to play for a scrub team.

[pmj]

IMO Lakers should do these trades:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=84rpav7

+

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7jwxg6x

End result:

PG: CP3
SG: Kobe
SF: Ariza
PF: Okafor
C: D12

6th Man: Arenas

That team would be nuts rofl

[Nash]

Why would Orlando take Gasol instead of all the young talent Clippers and Nets can offer.

[All Net]

Then might as well let his contract expire so that he has to play for a scrub team.

That wouldn't be smart business.

[mmsupra]

lmao u think the Magic are gonna trade Dwight for andrew :lol



well it is the Magic...smh

[guy]

There won't be many better offers from teams dwight would actually want to play for.

Magic actually have some leverage though cause Dwight can't sign with the Lakers outright. Its not like the Melo situation. I don't understand why this is lost on people.

Seriously, if I was a GM (which I'm obviously nowhere close to being), I would rather let Dwight walk for nothing then settle for just Bynum. Bynum has trouble staying on the floor as the 3rd-4th option. How can you expect this guy to be even just as durable as he gets older and assumes a franchise player's role? If I'm the Magic, I don't understand why they don't also go for Gasol and try to dump Arenas on them. And say what you want that thats too much cause its really not. Bynum isn't going to be a superstar, Gasol is over 30, and this team in general is on the decline. You do what you can to take a top 3 player in the league in his prime.

[jlip]

I doubt if this happens, but if any team can pull this off, it would be the Lakers. As a star it has to be great to play for that franchise. They are basically the Yankees of the NBA. They can basically bring in any type of help that you think you need. Other than maybe a brief stint in the early 90's after Magic retired I don't think that they've ever gone more than 4 seasons without a top 5 caliber player in the league.

[G-Funk]

This is whats gonna happen.

Step 1: 3 way trade

Celtics: Gasol

Hornets: Rondo

Lakers: Paul

Of course with fillers, Its obvious Celtics want to trade Rondo for a scoring option to take pressure off Pierce, Gasol will fill that need and the lack of Center position they have.


Step 2: Trade 4 Dwight.

Send Bynum + fillers for Dwight Howard + Torkulu

[Pra]

Why would Orlando take Gasol instead of all the young talent Clippers and Nets can offer.

Exactly... if the Magics are going to take Gasol just for some minor playoff hope it's not going to happen lol. East is way too stacked.

Rebuild... or try to trade for CP3...

Nelson / Anderson / Reddick + picks? for CP3 + w/e filler.

That kind of trade won't fly though. :violin:

[blacknapalm]

ya, just trade for lopez and cash straight up. lopez will make magic too much to handle :D

plus, orlando fans should be more interested in any cp3/dwight combos and i said this way before these rumors dropped. a dwight/cp3 pick n roll is lethal and hard as $hit to defend. add a perimeter shooter or low post scorer and that's tough sledding. add a hard rebounder...good luck

[bagelred]

How bout this?

Trade #1:

Lakers get Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu
Magic get Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom


Trade #2:

Lakers get Chris Paul
Pacers get Pau Gasol
Hornets get Danny Granger and Nick Collison



Those trades could be tweaked, but that's the basic structure.


:confusedshrug:

[MMM]

There won't be many better offers from teams dwight would actually want to play for.

then let him walk, why take on pieces that you can't build around. Now if the Lakers can get a 3rd team involved that can offer young pieces/picks then it becomes more realistic.

[sagr32]

then let him walk, why take on pieces that you can't build around. Now if the Lakers can get a 3rd team involved that can offer young pieces/picks then it becomes more realistic.
Why not test run Bynum for a year seeing as he has a team option after 2012 and see how he works out as a 1st option in the post?

[Court Vision]

Kobe couldn't handle being the second best player on the roster (behind Shaq), how will he fair being the third best? Not ripping on Kobe, but obviously Paul and Howard are superior players to Bryant at this stage in their respective careers. Also Mike Brown wouldn't be able to handle the egos of Bryant and Howard (I don't think CP's is such a problem).

Not the same.

Neither Paul or Dwight really require the ball that much to be effective, and Kobe will still be the leader of a team with all 3.

[Arroyo8]

doesn't look likely

[blacknapalm]

kupchak is secretive but this is hard one to pull off

but if done...cp3 + dwight + kobe = done for league. at the very least, the next five ships fall between LA, miami and chi. maybe NY, OK, memphis can sneak one in there. you're done, son.

[MMM]

Why not test run Bynum for a year seeing as he has a team option after 2012 and see how he works out as a 1st option in the post?

building a championship team is about getting elite super star talent and building around them. I just don't see why any rebuilding team would want Bynum he seems to be a piece for a team that is in playoff contention to complement their star players.

[sagr32]

building a championship team is about getting elite super star talent and building around them. I just don't see why any rebuilding team would want Bynum he seems to be a piece for a team that is in playoff contention to complement their star players.
Quite honestly I agree. I don't see Bynum as a guy who is going to lead them to a ring but in this era of limited centers i dont see how taking a shot on Bynum can be bad. He was sometimes as low as the 4th option on the lakers and if he gets enough shots he could be a 18+ and 10 guy. If he is injured again at worst they just don't pick up his option after the year. If he plays well they can keep him or trade him for some valuable pieces

[LA_Showtime]

I can understand why someone might want Bynum, since he's relatively young, has a lot of potential, and has an expiring contract. Doesn't hurt he's pretty good when he's healthy either, and that he's probably always going to have value because he's arguably the second best center in the league. I don't understand why anyone would want Pau Gasol though... he's on the downside of his career and has a lot of money left on his contract.

[All Net]

building a championship team is about getting elite super star talent and building around them. I just don't see why any rebuilding team would want Bynum he seems to be a piece for a team that is in playoff contention to complement their star players.
Until he's given that chance who knows how good Bynum can be.

[MMM]

Until he's given that chance who knows how good Bynum can be.

He's been in the league awhile now and while he has shown flashes I don't think it has been enough to be a guy you want to build your team around. You Lakers fans have seen him the most and honestly how confident would you be in building your team around Bynum. I think the better route would be let Howard go for nothing if you can't get a favorable deal and draft your next main piece in the top 3-5 the following season. With all that being said I know it doesn't mean much seeing as I'm not a GM.

[LA_Showtime]

He's been in the league awhile now and while he has shown flashes I don't think it has been enough to be a guy you want to build your team around. You Lakers fans have seen him the most and honestly how confident would you be in building your team around Bynum. I think the better route would be let Howard go for nothing if you can't get a favorable deal and draft your next main piece in the top 3-5 the following season. With all that being said I know it doesn't mean much seeing as I'm not a GM.

I don't think letting Howard walk is the answer. The public backlash would suck if that happened. They'd also win more games with Howard than not, when if he's leaving you'd almost rather just rebuilding and hope for a high lottery pick. I don't know if Andrew Bynum is the answer per say, but Orlando should definitely trade Dwight if they don't think they're gonna be able to resign him.

[All Net]

He's been in the league awhile now and while he has shown flashes I don't think it has been enough to be a guy you want to build your team around. You Lakers fans have seen him the most and honestly how confident would you be in building your team around Bynum. I think the better route would be let Howard go for nothing if you can't get a favorable deal and draft your next main piece in the top 3-5 the following season. With all that being said I know it doesn't mean much seeing as I'm not a GM.
Business wise it wouldn't make sense losing him for nothing. Not when it can be avoided.

Bynum has the talent and sometimes playing with other very good bigs can hurt a guy's development. Not saying he would be a top player but who knows until he is more of a focal point.

[The GM]

When I saw this I shook my head even as a Laker fan but then I really thought about it, this shit could really go down if a 3rd team is involved. Its pretty clear both NO & ORL want Bynum as the main piece in return for their stars so that leaves no one wanting Gasol. I'm thinking the Lakers should try to get the Warriors involved and ask about their interest in a Pau for Monta Ellis deal then the lakers could try to offer this:

Lakers gets: Dwight & Paul
Orlando gets: Bynum & Odom
NO gets: Monta Ellis + picks
Warriors gets: Pau + maybe Bass or Anderson

Idk how that would work cap wise but that's a pretty could rough offer imo cause if your NO or Orlando you can't realisticlly get a better deal then that and Marc Jackson knows how vital it is to have a great big man so I believe he'd be open to linking up Curry + Pau.

[MMM]

I don't think letting Howard walk is the answer. The public backlash would suck if that happened. They'd also win more games with Howard than not, when if he's leaving you'd almost rather just rebuilding and hope for a high lottery pick. I don't know if Andrew Bynum is the answer per say, but Orlando should definitely trade Dwight if they don't think they're gonna be able to resign him.

Agreed that trading is preferable but if the team is not going to get workable pieces then letting him walk and tanking for a top 3 pick wouldn't be that bad a option. I guess they could trade for Bynum hope he stays healthy(big if) and trade him the following year for some pieces.

[All Net]

Agreed that trading is preferable but if the team is not going to get workable pieces then letting him walk and tanking for a top 3 pick wouldn't be that bad a option. I guess they could trade for Bynum hope he stays healthy(big if) and trade him the following year for some pieces.

Well Bynum does have a team option down the line a year before his deal expires I believe.

[DMAVS41]

Business wise it wouldn't make sense losing him for nothing. Not when it can be avoided.

Bynum has the talent and sometimes playing with other very good bigs can hurt a guy's development. Not saying he would be a top player but who knows until he is more of a focal point.

If Orlando could get Bynum back and shed Hedo's contract....it would be a great deal for them. They would get a young center with loads of potential on an expiring deal. So if he's great....they can sign him for more than anybody else...and if he's not great....they let him go.

That is an ideal trade for the Magic and one they should do. But it has to be Howard and Hedo leaving. The Magic have to find a way to get rid of Hedo's 34 million over the next 3 years in a Howard trade. So it would take the Lakers sending Odom and Bynum to the Magic for Hedo and Howard. That seems like a great trade for both teams.

As far as Paul, I don't see how the Lakers can get him. The Hornets should absolutely not trade Paul unless that trade includes Okafor. The Lakers could potentially include a 3rd or 4th team in the deal to make that happen, but I don't know who wants to take on Okafor and his 40 million over the next 3 years.

[SFMF]

Yeah... we will get another lockout if this goes next season

[MMM]

Business wise it wouldn't make sense losing him for nothing. Not when it can be avoided.

Bynum has the talent and sometimes playing with other very good bigs can hurt a guy's development. Not saying he would be a top player but who knows until he is more of a focal point.

Best thing to do business wise is to replace a current star/franchise player with a young star/franchise player. The best way to do that is the draft and in particular top 3-5 picks. Now if the Lakers can get another team involved then it makes these trades far more realistic but I don't see the Lakers pieces being attractive to rebuilding teams. As for Bynum maybe I'm being to harsh on him but I don't see many teams wanting to take a risk on his knees but remaining healthy this season might do a lot to change that perspective. So I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[PrimeJohnnyDepp]

Imagine Lakers with Dwight, Kobe and CP3. Prime NBA all over. 2000 all over. 1996 all over. 80's Lakers all over. NBA would be... back. For me. And normal people.

Imagine how many 2002 Kings teams would form to destroy Lakers and Heat.

[Burgz]

so let me get something straight...

we missed a month and a half of the season for nothing?

cool.

[Burgz]

Best thing to do business wise is to replace a current star/franchise player with a young star/franchise player. The best way to do that is the draft and in particular top 3-5 picks. Now if the Lakers can get another team involved then it makes these trades far more realistic but I don't see the Lakers pieces being attractive to rebuilding teams. As for Bynum maybe I'm being to harsh on him but I don't see many teams wanting to take a risk on his knees but remaining healthy this season might do a lot to change that perspective. So I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Kwame Brown and Memphis say hello

[BGriffin's Dad]

so let me get something straight...

we missed a month and a half of the season for nothing?

cool.

basically yeah

[mountainmamba]

so let me get something straight...

we missed a month and a half of the season for nothing?

cool.

My thoughts exactly, and I'm a laker fan

[SpecialQue]

Any Laker fans here have any reservations about this? I'd love to get at least one of these players, but getting both...I don't know.

[Duncan21formvp]

The sad thing about this is if it happened Kobe would be the 3rd best player on his team now as most felt Dwight and CP3 were better than Kobe last year.

[PrimeJohnnyDepp]

I would do it in a heartbeat, Lakers in the last years have sucked at being Lakers. Sure they've been effective, but just blow up this odd group. Except for Bynum, they aren't doing it for me, as a visual fan of the game I like classic power teams. Classic power teams = powerful NBA. Just ignore these 200-some people on forums who are obviuosly some kind of weird sort of communists, because million of other people want a great NBA.

[All Net]

The sad thing about this is if it happened Kobe would be the 3rd best player on his team now as most felt Dwight and CP3 were better than Kobe last year.
Dwight? Yea but Paul? Not quite. Was great in the playoffs though.

[pegasus]

The sad thing about this is if it happened Kobe would be the 3rd best player on his team now as most felt Dwight and CP3 were better than Kobe last year.

Kobe, assuming comes back healthy as reported, would be the best offensive player out of the three.

Defensively, playing alongside someone more active like Paul (as opposed to dead-weight Fisher), and the DPOY, he would be a lot more effective. He could be given the assignment to lock someone up without having to worry about the rest of the team's defense.

[mountainmamba]

Everything that frustrates laker fans about bynum's play arethe things dwight does best. This is a no brainer if possible.

[IGOTGAME]

Any Laker fans here have any reservations about this? I'd love to get at least one of these players, but getting both...I don't know.

I would rather get Dwight and not get Chris Paul. I think a Pau Gasol and Dwight Howard frontcourt would be scary.

[G-Funk]

The sad thing about this is if it happened Kobe would be the 3rd best player on his team now as most felt Dwight and CP3 were better than Kobe last year.
Who gives a shyt!? Its about teams & rings. Besides Kobe will still be the leader and has as good of shot to get FMVP. But all that comes 2nd

[mountainmamba]

The Lakers have had a frantic need for a point guard for the last 6 years otherwise they would get dominated by opposing guards.

Then they went to three straight finals and won two in a row.

Get Dwight.

[pegasus]

I would rather get Dwight and not get Chris Paul. I think a Pau Gasol and Dwight Howard frontcourt would be scary.

If Gasol can play like he did in 2010, yes. If he plays anything like last year, then the LA should ship him while some people still think that last year was a fluke.

[All Net]

If Gasol can play like if he did in 2010, yes. If he plays anything like last year, then the LA should ship him while some people still think that last year was a fluke.
As Long as his GF doesn't cheat on him he will play fine :lol

[pegasus]

As Long as his GF doesn't cheat on him he will play fine :lol

I hope he doesn't have a horny mama. I'm afraid that may be next :lol

[G-Funk]

How bout this?

Trade #1:

Lakers get Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu
Magic get Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom


Trade #2:

Lakers get Chris Paul
Pacers get Pau Gasol
Hornets get Danny Granger and Nick Collison



Those trades could be tweaked, but that's the basic structure.


:confusedshrug:


yes, a third team needs to get involved.. Someone like the Bobcats who have pleanty of wing players but lack bigs. Or the Celtics who are not only trying to go for a last run but are trying to get rid of Rondo

[IGOTGAME]

If Gasol can play like he did in 2010, yes. If he plays anything like last year, then the LA should ship him while some people still think that last year was a fluke.

I just don't see Kobe/CP3/Howard meshing together personality wise. I could Deron/Kobe/Howard but I think CP3 and Kobe will have issues.

[pegasus]

I just don't see Kobe/CP3/Howard meshing together personality wise. I could Deron/Kobe/Howard but I think CP3 and Kobe will have issues.

Would you care to elaborate on that? I may be missing something.

I would imagine that both players would do their best to win a ring together.

[guy]

Dwight? Yea but Paul? Not quite. Was great in the playoffs though.

Well ESPN would actually consider him the 3rd best. But I agree. CP3's one of my favorite players, but he's gotten somewhat overrated since that series. I've been hearing debates about who should a team go after between Howard and CP3. I don't think its a debate. This isn't 2008 and 2009 CP3 anymore. He's clearly declined. Its like people completely forget the time between 2009 and the 2011 1st round series.

[Take Your Lumps]

How bout this?

Trade #2:

Lakers get Chris Paul
Pacers get Pau Gasol
Hornets get raped in the butt

FTFY

[IGOTGAME]

Would you care to elaborate on that? I may be missing something.

I would imagine that both players would do their best to win a ring together.

Just don't think they would naturally get along. 2 natural alpha personalities, Kobe won't back down to anyone and neither will CP3. I just don't see it working well chemisty wise but it is purely a guess.

[LA_Showtime]

Just don't think they would naturally get along. 2 natural alpha personalities, Kobe won't back down to anyone and neither will CP3. I just don't see it working well chemisty wise but it is purely a guess.

I would hope that after the Shaq fiasco and a lot of individual success Kobe would be able to handle being possibly the 3rd best player on the Lakers, even if it is his team. But like you I'm not sure it'd be feasible to expect them to co-exist long-term.

[AMISTILLILL]

This is whats gonna happen.

Step 1: 3 way trade

Celtics: Gasol

Hornets: Rondo

Lakers: Paul

Of course with fillers, Its obvious Celtics want to trade Rondo for a scoring option to take pressure off Pierce, Gasol will fill that need and the lack of Center position they have.


Step 2: Trade 4 Dwight.

Send Bynum + fillers for Dwight Howard + Torkulu

http://cdn.theurbandaily.com/files/2010/07/cocaine.gif

[YAWN]

I just don't see Kobe/CP3/Howard meshing together personality wise. I could Deron/Kobe/Howard but I think CP3 and Kobe will have issues.

I don't see where the issues would arise. Paul seems to be an easy going guy that prefers to create wide open shots for other people. Kobe will still get some iso time in. Dwight will get his buckets from easy looks/lobs created by Paul & cleaning up everyone else's mess.

I still think only Dwight has the realistic chance at putting on the lakers uni though.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9695/22963010150185967096306.jpg

[chazzy]

Well ESPN would actually consider him the 3rd best. But I agree. CP3's one of my favorite players, but he's gotten somewhat overrated since that series. I've been hearing debates about who should a team go after between Howard and CP3. I don't think its a debate. This isn't 2008 and 2009 CP3 anymore. He's clearly declined. Its like people completely forget the time between 2009 and the 2011 1st round series.
True. I would feel much more comfortable with Howard than CP3 going forward because Dwight has no question marks in addition to being more impactful. I'm not completely sold on Paul's knee long term.

[comerb]

the fact that so many people are taking this serious is truly embarrassing to me as an insane NBA obsessed fan.

There is no chance of this happening but yet idiots are gobbling up Chris Broussards BS like they always do.


As much as I love NBA rumors, I'm starting to get really sick and tired of this shit. Its not even funny reading how many Lakers fans on espn.com actually think this is happening.

Conceited is not even the word for some of these ppl.

Honestly, the math works out... especially if you start adding in a 3rd team. And it makes a fair bit of sense for all teams involved. It's very possible.

Plus... it's the Lakers.

[comerb]

I just don't see Kobe/CP3/Howard meshing together personality wise. I could Deron/Kobe/Howard but I think CP3 and Kobe will have issues.

I really don't think it would be an issue. CP3 seems like he'd fit in well anywhere, and Kobe would keep Dwight focused and on point.

[amfirst]

Kobe has been willing to share. It was only after the fact Gasol was stinking it, that he had to take it iin his own hands. The guy always try to dump the ball in for Gasol. but Gasol always dumps it back out.

[amfirst]

I just don't see Kobe/CP3/Howard meshing together personality wise. I could Deron/Kobe/Howard but I think CP3 and Kobe will have issues.

Kobe and CP3 will find a way. They have mad chemistry. Watch the allstar game. These two on the same court is rediculous and undefeated.

[comerb]

Kobe has been willing to share. It was only after the fact Gasol was stinking it, that he had to take it iin his own hands. The guy always try to dump the ball in for Gasol. but Gasol always dumps it back out.

I don't even think it matters. Paul and Howard are the type of players that are going to get theirs.

[Thechosen1]

Kobe has a no trade clause. He'd never allow himself to be traded.

whos that in your avi?

[Heavincent]

With Dwight Howard as the Batman of this team. Dwight was the superior player last season.

Kobe would still be the real leader of the team.

[Thechosen1]

Well ESPN would actually consider him the 3rd best. But I agree. CP3's one of my favorite players, but he's gotten somewhat overrated since that series. I've been hearing debates about who should a team go after between Howard and CP3. I don't think its a debate. This isn't 2008 and 2009 CP3 anymore. He's clearly declined. Its like people completely forget the time between 2009 and the 2011 1st round series.

you mean he was clearly injured lol @ declined....cp3 is probably better than ever now that hes 100 percent...please watch his games religiously before you come to conclusions

[swi7ch]

Well ESPN would actually consider him the 3rd best. But I agree. CP3's one of my favorite players, but he's gotten somewhat overrated since that series. I've been hearing debates about who should a team go after between Howard and CP3. I don't think its a debate. This isn't 2008 and 2009 CP3 anymore. He's clearly declined. Its like people completely forget the time between 2009 and the 2011 1st round series.

you mean he was clearly injured lol @ declined....cp3 is probably better than ever now that hes 100 percent...please watch his games religiously before you come to conclusions

I agree.

CP3 I think is one of the top 3 PGs in the world today.

[Nets fan 93]

If anyone thinks that Gasol for CP3 is an option for NO they are clowns.