BREAKING: Three team trade between Pelicans, Trail Blazers and Kings complete

[Shade8780]

In proposed 3-way deal, Kings send Tyreke Evans to Pelicans, Nola's Vasquez to Kings and Robin Lopez to Blazers. Port sends picks and cash.


New Orleans, Portland and Sacramento have just verbally agreed to complete three-way trade July 10 that locks up Tyreke Evans as a Pelican
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[D-Rose]

Good deal for all parties involved :applause:

[Shade8780]

[QUOTE=@WojYahooNBA]Y! Sources: New Orleans, Sacramento, Portland agree to three-team deal to send Tyreke Evans to the Pelicans. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--tyreke-evans-headed-to-pelicans-in-three-team-deal-172134174.html

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

wonder what picks and/or cash Sac will get.

[Peteballa]

Nola didn't have the room to sign Tyreke outright?

If they did have the room, why throw away two assets that could have netted something positive in return?

Great move by Sactown and by Portland for getting Robin. As long as they didn't give away good picks.

[Shade8780]

Holiday
Gordon
Evans
Anderson
Davis

I don't think Gordon and Evans will work well together.

[Johnny Jones]

Holiday
Gordon
Evans
Anderson
Davis

I don't think Gordon and Evans will work well together.
Evans is going to be 6th man

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Nola didn't have the room to sign Tyreke outright?

If they did have the room, why throw away two assets that could have netted something positive in return?

cuz Kings could've just matched the offer and kept Tyreke. But they knew Tyreke didn't want to stay, so they figured they'd be shrewd businessmen and get something in return. :pimp:

[D-Rose]

Nola didn't have the room to sign Tyreke outright?

If they did have the room, why throw away two assets that could have netted something positive in return?

Great move by Sactown and by Portland for getting Robin. As long as they didn't give away good picks.
Don't think they had the cap room as they just absorbed Jrue Holiday's contract. This also guarantees that Sacramento won't match.

[Johnny Jones]

Nola didn't have the room to sign Tyreke outright?

If they did have the room, why throw away two assets that could have netted something positive in return?

Great move by Sactown and by Portland for getting Robin. As long as they didn't give away good picks.
No we had to get rid of Lopez

[BlazerRed]

Good pickup of we didn't give away great picks in a great draft.

[bdreason]

Evans is going to be 6th man


11m per year for a 6th man?


More likely that Gordon finally gets moved.

[LosScandalous]

Not a bad roster on paper regardless if they keep Gordon or not.

congrats to them on making sure their first season under a new name won't be an embarrassing one.

[gasolina]

Evans is going to be 6th man
Might as well be their 4th quarter lineup. No way Evans is sitting down when the game is on the line.

How about frontcourt depth?

[TylerOO]

Holiday
Gordon
Evans
Anderson
Davis

I don't think Gordon and Evans will work well together.

Its not like Gordon will be playing this year. He will get hurt 3 games in

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Pending where Dwight, JSmooth, Iggy, etc go, Kings got a shot to contend for playoffs now. No heroball from Tyreke. A pure PG to run the team. And hopefully a scorer in McLemore who can contribute immediately.

The roster itself is solid, but the key addition is Mike Malone as coach, imo. If he can snap this team into mental shape and defend, they can contend for a spot. if not? Another 30~35 win season.

[DMAVS41]

I like this trade.

Still don't like Gordon on that roster at all for the future, but next year they should be really fun to watch.

I actually like Evans on that team. He'll have a lot of room to operate with a bunch of really good shooters out there.

If they can somehow make it work...a small ball lineup of Holiday/Gordon/Evans/Anderson/Davis would be crazy hard to stop.

[Bosnian Sajo]

NOLA should have signed Igoudala, I feel like he would of fit the team better.

[Johnny Jones]

If they can somehow make it work...a small ball lineup of Holiday/Gordon/Evans/Anderson/Davis would be crazy hard to stop.That's probably going to be our line-up in crunch time. I think Gordon might actually want to play here since we have more talent.

[DMAVS41]

NOLA should have signed Igoudala, I feel like he would of fit the team better.

Holiday, Evans, Anderson, Davis is a great core moving forward with all of those guys under 25 and I actually like the fit.

If Davis becomes a top 10 player...that team could be really strong. I just think they have to move Gordon as soon as possible because he doesn't have a future on that team most likely. Keeping him just seems detrimental to the future...

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

who are NO's other bigs beside Davis, Anderson, and Smith (god, the most generic American names...)?

...guess I can look it up myself...

edit:
ahh, Amundson. I'm guessing lots of mins for that 3-big rotation...

[dzav323]

I challenge anyone to name a better bench then:

Jackson or Roberts
Evans
Miller
Anderson
Smith.

We also have room to sign a couple of more players.

Can't wait till next season:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

I challenge anyone to name a better bench then:

Jackson or Roberts
Evans
Miller
Anderson
Smith.

We also have room to sign a couple of more players.

Can't wait till next season:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Won't Anderson be starting now?

[DMAVS41]

That's probably going to be our line-up in crunch time. I think Gordon might actually want to play here since we have more talent.

I bet he does, but going forward they won't be able to keep him anyway. No way they can afford all of those guys in a couple years and they can't contend for titles now...so it's kind of pointless.

I'm still hoping the ship Gordon and fill out the roster a bit with actual needs. In the 2016 season they could be legit contenders if things break their way and Davis is a true star by then.

[Johnny Jones]

I challenge anyone to name a better bench then:

Jackson or Roberts
Evans
Miller
Anderson
Smith.

We also have room to sign a couple of more players.

Can't wait till next season:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Smiht might be starting next year. I hope he does. His per 36 numbers were pretty decent last year.

Plus he's a badass. :rockon:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I challenge anyone to name a better bench then:

Jackson or Roberts
Evans
Miller
Anderson
Smith.

We also have room to sign a couple of more players.

Can't wait till next season:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Who is Jackson?

I like this trade for all the teams. Portland still needs Leonard to become the man, tho.

[Haymaker]

Evans stated that he would not sign with any team that wanted his as a SF. I doubt he's coming off the bench, so that puts Gordon on the trade block?

[Johnny Jones]

Evans stated that he would not sign with any team that wanted his as a SF.
No, that was a random tweet from a beat-blogger.

[dzav323]

Won't Anderson be starting now?
I don't think so, but he could if Monty feels comfortable with AD at the 5. I see no way Monty will let AD play the 5 against the Hibberts and Howards. Whomever we sign might then slide into a spot starter role ala Jason Collins when he was in ATL when they went up against the bigger 5's in the league. But I personally don't think Anderson will start.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

So Kings now look like:

Cousins
JT
Salmons
McLemore
Vasquez
-------
Chuck
Pat Pat
Outlaw
Thornton
Isaiah
R. McCallum
Jimmer

I still would like to see a charge at a SF. Maybe package JT + Isaiah + Jimmer for Deng/Granger. Also re-sign Aldrich and Toney Douglas.

[Haymaker]

No, that was a random tweet from a beat-blogger. ok cool

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

I don't think so, but he could if Monty feels comfortable with AD at the 5. I see no way Monty will let AD play the 5 against the Hibberts and Howards. Whomever we sign might then slide into a spot starter role ala Jason Collins when he was in ATL when they went up against the bigger 5's in the league. But I personally don't think Anderson will start.
yeah Johnny made the better point - Smith should (and probably will) start.

[Inferno]

Hope POR didn't give away any 2014 first round picks...

But nice. Finally got a good starting center to mentor Meyers and Withey.

PG: Lillard/McCollum
SG: Matthews/McCollum/Barton/Crabbe
SF: Batum/Claver
PF: Aldridge/Robinson/Freeland
C: Lopez/Leonard/Withey


:applause:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Hope POR didn't give away any 2014 first round picks...

But yes! Finally got a good starting center to take mentor Meyers and Withey!

PG: Lillard/McCollum
SG: Matthews/McCollum/Barton/Crabbe
SF: Batum/Claver
PF: Aldridge/Robinson/Freeland
C: Lopez/Leonard/Withey


:applause:
yeah, Blazers look real good now that they actually have a bench.

As for the pick, I dunno. I feel like they have to have included a 1st rnder just to balance out value, even though Lopez isn't worth a 1st rnder. But since they reportedly included cash, it could very well be just a 2nd rnder.

[dzav323]

yeah Johnny made the better point - Smith should (and probably will) start.
I'd be fine with that

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Jason-Smith.png

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[Inferno]

yeah, Blazers look real good now that they actually have a bench.

As for the pick, I dunno. I feel like they have to have included a 1st rnder just to balance out value, even though Lopez isn't worth a 1st rnder. But since they reportedly included cash, it could very well be just a 2nd rnder.

Yeah. Hoping it's a 2nd round pick. SAC is looking pretty good too now, right? McLemore and Cousins are two promising young guys to build around :applause:

[dzav323]

Smiht might be starting next year. I hope he does. His per 36 numbers were pretty decent last year.

Plus he's a badass. :rockon:
And I forgot to include Rivers:pimp:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Yeah. Hoping it's a 2nd round pick. SAC is looking pretty good too now, right? McLemore and Cousins are two promising young guys to build around :applause:
yeah, I'm just happy that they're making some real changes. New regime has shown they're ready to move into a different direction. Still need a SF and should probably get rid of a big and a spare PG or 2. Like I've said before - trade for Deng or Granger!

[Inferno]

yeah, I'm just happy that they're making some real changes. New regime has shown they're ready to move into a different direction. Still need a SF and should probably get rid of a big and a spare PG or 2. Like I've said before - trade for Deng or Granger!

Yeah, the Maloofs weren't helping at all. Granger would be a nice add to SAC. Bay Area might get both teams in the playoffs soon :applause:


With that said, people are sleeping on the Blazers. They've slowly built a strong young core with good bench pieces in the past few weeks. :pimp:

[Johnny Jones]

I'd be fine with that

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That block is beautiful! :cry: :bowdown:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

With that said, people are sleeping on the Blazers. They've slowly built a strong young core with good bench pieces in the past few weeks. :pimp:
yeah, they're definitely playoff contenders now, imo. The West will be stacked w/ teams hovering around 40 wins and vying for a playoff spot. I mean, I think as of rosters right now, Phoenix is the only definitive team w/ pretty much 0% chance at competing for a playoff spot, unless Hornacek is some god coach. ...maybe Jazz?

I got it like this for playoff spots, given rosters right now:

locks - LAC, San Antonio, OKC
almost guaranteed - Denver, GSW, Memphis
almost guaranteed depending on Dwight - Houston, Dallas
can compete to get in - Portland, Sac, NO, Minnesota, LAL
pretty much no chance - Utah, Phoenix

again, all pending further moves (Utah re-signs Millsap? Where Dwight, Iggy, JSmooth go? etc)

[Perezident]

Iggy back into the picture?? ....Good luck to Evans. No way we would reward him for one pretty good season, one injury season and two marginal progression season with that contract. Sad our FO didn't give the duo Cousins/Evans a chance to flourish though, but it boiled down to the money

[MisterAmazing]

this might sound crazy, but would it be at all possible for New Orleans to do a S&T for Iguodala involving Gordon?

[Inferno]

yeah, they're definitely playoff contenders now, imo. The West will be stacked w/ teams hovering around 40 wins and vying for a playoff spot. I mean, I think as of rosters right now, Phoenix is the only definitive team w/ pretty much 0% chance at competing for a playoff spot, unless Hornacek is some god coach. ...maybe Jazz?

I got it like this for playoff spots, given rosters right now:

locks - LAC, San Antonio, OKC
almost guaranteed - Denver, GSW, Memphis
almost guaranteed depending on Dwight - Houston, Dallas
can compete to get in - Portland, Sac, NO, Minnesota, LAL
pretty much no chance - Utah, Phoenix

again, all pending further moves (Utah re-signs Millsap? Where Dwight, Iggy, JSmooth go? etc)

Yeah, West is looking very tough this year. East on the other hand isn't looking that good. There'll probably be a big drop off in quality there.

[Johnny Jones]

Portland is also getting Terrel Harris.

[Inferno]

Portland is also getting Terrel Harris.

Source? Is he any good?

[Johnny Jones]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 2 minutes ago

Three-way footnotes: Portland also gets Terrel Harris w/Robin Lopez, pays Lopez's $1.6M trade kicker and sends two second-rounders to SAC



Source? Is he any good?

No, not at all. I mean he had a freaking negative PER. That's like impossible to do

[DMAVS41]

this might sound crazy, but would it be at all possible for New Orleans to do a S&T for Iguodala involving Gordon?

I don't know if it's possible, but I don't like that move. The Hornets need to trade Gordon for young pieces or picks. This core won't be read to contend for a couple years. So bringing in a near 30 year old Iggy for likely a long contract is silly.

I really am getting excited about this team. If they move Gordon for the right pieces...the Noel trade doesn't bother me nearly as much. Although a core of Evans/Davis/Noel/Anderson with a high 2014 draft pick and moving Gordon this summer would have been epic in my opinion.

But I get the pressure to win now.

[Inferno]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 2 minutes ago

Three-way footnotes: Portland also gets Terrel Harris w/Robin Lopez, pays Lopez's $1.6M trade kicker and sends two second-rounders to SAC



No, not at all. I mean he had a freaking negative PER. That's like impossible to do

Damn. Good thing they're only second rounders. And Harris...:coleman:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 2 minutes ago

Three-way footnotes: Portland also gets Terrel Harris w/Robin Lopez, pays Lopez's $1.6M trade kicker and sends two second-rounders to SAC

hmm...I suppose I'm not exactly pleased there's no 1st rnders. But I suppose I trust new GM D'Alessandro to find some steals... even though there's no evidence I should trust him yet. :oldlol: I guess I just trust his ex-Denver credentials.

[Shade8780]

Sources say Pelicans, already hot for Evans, were all in when Reke told them he'd be willing to be sixth man in New Orleans if necessary
Damn, didn't know he'd be willing to not start. Why do the Pelicans not want to start him? Aminu isn't that good.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Damn, didn't know he'd be willing to not start. Why do the Pelicans not want to start him? Aminu isn't that good.
cuz Tyreke doesn't want to play SF.

[Johnny Jones]

Damn, didn't know he'd be willing to not start. Why do the Pelicans not want to start him? Aminu isn't that good.
Aminu will fit much better with the team now. We can actually get out and run.

[CelticBaller]

Can Tyreke even play without the ball in his hand? :confusedshrug:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Can Tyreke even play without the ball in his hand? :confusedshrug:
he can on defense :oldlol:

[Peteballa]

Terrel Harris showed flashes of some talent with the Heat. Dude was a baller when he got playing time. I'm surprised he dropped off with the Hornets. Hopefully he'll be good with Portland.

[nerds]

Finally Bomber Marcus Thornton can start!

Yes he will start over the rookie

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Finally Bomber Marcus Thornton can start!

Yes he will start over the rookie
I think Thornton performs better as a starter - he needs the rhythm. But I feel they should start McLemore right away to get his development started ASAP.

[33teeth]

cuz Kings could've just matched the offer and kept Tyreke. But they knew Tyreke didn't want to stay, so they figured they'd be shrewd businessmen and get something in return. :pimp:

Word has been that he wanted to stay. They didn't think he was worth that money.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Word has been that he wanted to stay. They didn't think he was worth that money.
I heard that was the word too, until the past couple days - he felt "disrespected" that they didn't make him an immediate offer/show loyalty. But then I guess his brother tweeted that was a lie. So who knows...

[33teeth]

he can on defense :oldlol:

On one on one defense. Not so good with the team defense.

[nerds]

I think Thornton performs better as a starter - he needs the rhythm. But I feel they should start McLemore right away to get his development started ASAP.

Coaches not just have to develop players but new coaches have to win games!

Thornton is the starter, and has too much fight in him to give the keys to McLemore...

Thornton is entering his early prime years, remember his game against Miami this last season? 36 points, how can you bench that?:rockon:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Coaches not just have to develop players but new coaches have to win games!

Thornton is the starter, and has too much fight in him to give the keys to McLemore...

Thornton is entering his early prime years, remember his game against Miami this last season? 36 points, how can you bench that?:rockon:
no i definitely think it was a mistake for Smart to start Evans over Thornton. Thornton is best as a starter than bench guy and the converse can be said for Evans - he's a better energy guy off the bench than he is a starting SG.

[Johnny Jones]

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 1m

Portland will send Jeff Withey to Pelicans as part of 3-team deal, league source tells Y!

DELL DEMPS THE NINJA GM :bowdown:

[WhySoInsecure?]

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 1m

Portland will send Jeff Withey to Pelicans as part of 3-team deal, league source tells Y!

DELL DEMPS THE NINJA GM :bowdown:
Damn, he might just end up being better than Lopez

[TexasBloodMoney]

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 1m

Portland will send Jeff Withey to Pelicans as part of 3-team deal, league source tells Y!

DELL DEMPS THE NINJA GM :bowdown:


I hate this trade :facepalm

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 1m

Portland will send Jeff Withey to Pelicans as part of 3-team deal, league source tells Y!

DELL DEMPS THE NINJA GM :bowdown:

Portland dumb as rocks.

[Inferno]

Getting ride of Whitey? :facepalm

[LoneyROY7]

New Orleans is going to be fun to watch next season.

A small-ball line-up of...

PG Jrue
SG Gordon
SF Tyreke
PF Andeson
C Davis

...will be dangerous.

[Johnny Jones]

Getting ride of Whitey? :facepalm
Yea, why didn't you guys offer Leonard?

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

:oldlol: @ Withey being traded. Now I think Portland went from getting the best part of the deal to getting the worst...

[maxhornets]

Now Pelicans have to get a get at least one of the available SF free agents (I'm hoping for Dorell Wright) and we are a scary team moving forward

[B-Easy8]

Now they need to trade Gordon for a C and they will have a very good team.

[andremiller07]

Kings are a SF away from being a respectable team

[Wavves]

Not sure what to make of this for Portland. I guess we're not going for going for a C in free agency anymore.

Don't really like Robin Lopez, he'll help the defense out for sure (something that Withey was brought in to do though :confusedshrug:), but I wanted a tough grunt kind of guy at that spot to get all the rebounds.

[Inferno]

Yea, why didn't you guys offer Leonard?

No idea. I guess the Olshey thinks he has a higher ceiling (he is only 19).

[Myth]

Not sure what to make of this for Portland. I guess we're not going for going for a C in free agency anymore.

Don't really like Robin Lopez, he'll help the defense out for sure (something that Withey was brought in to do though :confusedshrug:), but I wanted a tough grunt kind of guy at that spot to get all the rebounds.

I heard we were still talking to Dalembert. Lopez is not a 35+ minute player, so it makes sense to add another C for depth, and it isn't like we have the money to land a star C anyway. I like a big man line up of Aldridge, Dalembert, Lopez, and Leonard.

And why are people so high on Whithey? He was an unproven mid-2nd rounder and people are acting like we traded away a lottery pick.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

And why are people so high on Whithey? He was an unproven mid-2nd rounder and people are acting like we traded away a lottery pick.
I think it's b/c he was projected to be a safe ~10 min backup who can help rebound and block shots, even if only for his career. His ceiling aint high at all, that's why he wasn't picked in the 1st rnd, really. But I think even moreso it was the fact that Portland needed depth. And they basically washed, in regards to depth, in this deal.

[Johnny Jones]

And why are people so high on Whithey? He was an unproven mid-2nd rounder and people are acting like we traded away a lottery pick.
Well, his advanced college stats were pretty insane. He had a PER of 27.2, 62 TS% and 7 win shares.


Also had an ORtg of 119 and DRtg of 84.

And he was projected to go mid to late 1st.

[ballup]

If Rivers didn't play poorly last season, he'd be traded away instead of Vaz.

[Myth]

I think it's b/c he was projected to be a safe ~10 min backup who can help rebound and block shots, even if only for his career. His ceiling aint high at all, that's why he wasn't picked in the 1st rnd, really. But I think even moreso it was the fact that Portland needed depth. And they basically washed, in regards to depth, in this deal.

So we lost depth by trading a guy who would be a 10 minute a game guy by adding a 25 minute a game guy? How does that work?

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

So we lost depth by trading a guy who would be a 10 minute a game guy by adding a 25 minute a game guy? How does that work?
2 backup Cs > 1 backup C? That's how depth works.

[Johnny Jones]

So we lost depth by trading a guy who would be a 10 minute a game guy by adding a 25 minute a game guy? How does that work?
You will be severly disappointed in Lopez. The dude sucks on defense.

[CavaliersFTW]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xTsHDwFvZHk/S_Qow8bY_zI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/wtBpcdPacYk/s400/PELICAN_color_blog.jpg

:roll:

[Scholar]

Hmm... Will Vasquez play SG? I'm guessing so, unless the Kings want to move Marcis Thornton there... But then does Isaiah Thomas come off the bench?

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Hmm... Will Vasquez play SG? I'm guessing so, unless the Kings want to move Marcis Thornton there... But then does Isaiah Thomas come off the bench?
Vasquez will be PG and Isaiah comes off bench is my guess. No way Vasquez usurps Thornton and McLemore for starting SG position.

[Myth]

2 backup Cs > 1 backup C? That's how depth works.

The only way we would have 2 is if we landed Lopez without giving up Whithey, and if we don't include him we don't necessarily get Lopez. I view this as exchanging 1 backup C for a more serviceable and experienced backup C.


You will be severly disappointed in Lopez. The dude sucks on defense.

I would only be disappointed if I had high expectations for him.