Drake's 'Wu Tang Forever'

[andgar923]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPreKgxHYXA

This is where drake gets his whole style from.

There's also RKelly who raps and sings, Montell Jordan, if we wanna go wayyyy back there's Bobby Brown. If we wanna talk 'auton tune' there's TPain and a host of other singing rappers that use auto tune.

So I don't get where some say he's original :confusedshrug:

And the problem isn't so much that he's singing and rapping, it's how he does it, when he does it. At times you're not sure if he's a rapper or a singer. He's an okay rapper (at best) but a bad singer.

And yes, other rappers have rapped about women and had songs aimed at the female audience, but they didn't sound like b*tches doing so. Straight up, he sounds gay. I know some will disagree but many know exactly what I'm talking about.

I mean, there's Teddy Pendergrass type of singers, then there's these new Mario fake Tevin Campbell b*tch made sounding singers. There's a difference, just is.

[DonD13]

http://www.lowbird.com/data/images/2013/09/ordienetworks-predator-20breakfast.gif

[Kblaze8855]

Wu style mixed with drake?

Perhaps I heard the wrong song but that didnt sound a damn thing like the Wu Tang I remember.

And real talk...I dont give two shits about Drake. Hes just another single producing rapper owning radio I dont listen to. But the hate he sees from fans of "real" hip hop is just laughable.

We went from....be yourself....stop the violence...rappers delight...rock duets....

To a point where someone who grew up upper middle class needs to talk murder and lie over wannabe Pete rock/Primo beats to be taken serious by the same kind of fans who are my age and asking what happened. Whats wrong with black culture, hip hop, and so on.

The problem is....90% of rappers come in and see that lying about being hard is the way to go. They go get their local garbage producer to whip up a beat that sounds like "Hard in the paint" and tell lies about streets they have never been on.

All these lying ass fake thugs all over the place making the same song and rhyming tech with bet and love with thugs over the same damn beat.

But the problem is....little rich kids who didnt come up hard rapping like little rich kids who didnt come up hard.

Hiphop is the fakest genre of music there ever was. Pushed by little white kids who think guys who have been rich and famous since they were 17 are real thugs and then weh ave guys my age fronting like every one of their favorine MCs isnt fake as a 3 dollar bill.

Bunch of muslims talking drug selling, people living down the street from Drake talking about streets they saw from their grandmas window at 13, and tatted up idiots screaming about murders they never did or will get involved in.

But Drake is a problem.

Thats why hip hop is dead. Not it being stacked with lying thugs who see destroying the minds of the youth as the path to success. Its dead because someone rapping about their actual life and appealing more to the average american is a success without the dumb mixtape beats that all sound like Pastor Troy mixed with the Neptunes.

Drake isnt my kind of music. But the kind of music I listen to is a hell of a lot faker than he is.

If Biggie were doing the shit from Dead Wrong he would have been in jail before album one.....

Im not gonna hate on dude for being himself. He didnt come up where I did. I respect that he doesnt lie to me about it.

When I think about how "real" fans make room for liars and fake thugs who live down the street from Drake and arent one bit more likely to do something "hard" but call out Drake for being closer to honest than most....

I kinda feel like Bunk on the wire.

"Makes me sick mother****er how far we done fell."

So many "real" fans only rep fake rappers. And dont even see the problem there........

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Wu style mixed with drake?

Perhaps I heard the wrong song but that didnt sound a damn thing like the Wu Tang I remember.

And real talk...I dont give two shits about Drake. Hes just another single producing rapper owning radio I dont listen to. But the hate he sees from fans of "real" hip hop is just laughable.

We went from....be yourself....stop the violence...rappers delight...rock duets....

To a point where someone who grew up upper middle class needs to talk murder and lie over wannabe Pete rock/Primo beats to be taken serious by the same kind of fans who are my age and asking what happened. Whats wrong with black culture, hip hop, and so on.

The problem is....90% of rappers come in and see that lying about being hard is the way to go. They go get their local garbage producer to whip up a beat that sounds like "Hard in the paint" and tell lies about streets they have never been on.

All these lying ass fake thugs all over the place making the same song and rhyming tech with bet and love with thugs over the same damn beat.

But the problem is....little rich kids who didnt come up hard rapping like little rich kids who didnt come up hard.

Hiphop is the fakest genre of music there ever was. Pushed by little white kids who think guys who have been rich and famous since they were 17 are real thugs and then weh ave guys my age fronting like every one of their favorine MCs isnt fake as a 3 dollar bill.

Bunch of muslims talking drug selling, people living down the street from Drake talking about streets they saw from their grandmas window at 13, and tatted up idiots screaming about murders they never did or will get involved in.

But Drake is a problem.

Thats why hip hop is dead. Not it being stacked with lying thugs who see destroying the minds of the youth as the path to success. Its dead because someone rapping about their actual life and appealing more to the average american is a success without the dumb mixtape beats that all sound like Pastor Troy mixed with the Neptunes.

Drake isnt my kind of music. But the kind of music I listen to is a hell of a lot faker than he is.

If Biggie were doing the shit from Dead Wrong he would have been in jail before album one.....

Im not gonna hate on dude for being himself. He didnt come up where I did. I respect that he doesnt lie to me about it.

When I think about how "real" fans make room for liars and fake thugs who live down the street from Drake and arent one bit more likely to do something "hard" but call out Drake for being closer to honest than most....

I kinda feel like Bunk on the wire.

"Makes me sick mother****er how far we done fell."

So many "real" fans only rep fake rappers. And dont even see the problem there........
Blaze... I can't speak for others here but this is why this upsets me and I assume most other legit Hip Hop fans. I am also strickly speaking about the content of their music, I don't care if RZA goes home, puts on a nighty, makes a chocolate latte and watches Days of our lives and Drake leaves the studio and goes gangbanging with the bloods.. their true "realness" is a separate discussion altogether:


Wu-tang made the 36 chambers. A dirty gutter classic full of intricate lyrics. Everyone knows that. They ushered in a new style. Accepted by 99.9% of hip hop fans as a gritty classic symbolizing the harshness of the streets of new york. etc... you get my point. Thats what their catalog consists of.


Drake OTOH makes emotional songs about how much he misses his ex girlfriends. Sorting out various conflicting feelings about his current relationship. Making deep connections with strippers. Etc.. He does what he does. He is in touch with his feminine side. Thats him. I'm not mad about it, it is what it is.


Guy has a style... it sells records. Record execs see it, so they push him to do it more, so he does it more.

But then he starts doin stuff like saying hes the greatest. Hes the king of rap. etc..

And now he makes a song named wu-tang forever. What is the song about?


I just love when I'm with you, yeah, this shit is on ten
We used to be friends, girl, and even back then
You would look at me with no hesitation and you'd tell me baby, it's yours

Honestly I listened to the song and I dont know.. Hes in love with some broad and some bullshit lyrics about his friends or something. Basically some usual exploring his emotions drake shit with some incoherent ramblings about his n!ggas.


What the f*ck does this song have to do with wu-tang. He says "Young ***** came through on his Wu-Tang." How so drake? Is he paying them props? Not one line in the song gives them homage. He doesnt recognize what they did, it is not in their style. It looks like to me hes just throwing the name of one of the grittiest groups on another one of his vag!nal secretion songs with some weak ass lyrics just to go for some shock value. Actually I'm pretty sure thats what hes doing. Drake is a savvy dude... he knows he gets dogged all the time for being a daisy queen.. He knew this song would create a bunch of buzz.. or "hate" or whatever.. and it comes out right before the release of the album. Its genius really. Drake and his PR teams are playing the public like puppets. But im rambling.


You guys really dont see why its getting all this hate?? Hes disrespecting the Wu Tang by associating their name with some fukking covert love song, not saying a damn thing about the wu tang in the song, just for some publicity. I'm not some hardcore wu-tang clan fan.. but if I was, I'd be real pissed my favorite group is getting associated with this love ballad singing/degrassi motherf*cker.

[andgar923]

Blaze... I can't speak for others here but this is why this upsets me and I assume most other legit Hip Hop fans. I am also strickly speaking about the content of their music, I don't care if RZA goes home, puts on a nighty, makes a chocolate latte and watches Days of our lives and Drake leaves the studio and goes gangbanging with the bloods.. their true "realness" is a separate discussion altogether:


Wu-tang made the 36 chambers. A dirty gutter classic full of intricate lyrics. Everyone knows that. They ushered in a new style. Accepted by 99.9% of hip hop fans as a gritty classic symbolizing the harshness of the streets of new york. etc... you get my point. Thats what their catalog consists of.


Drake OTOH makes emotional songs about how much he misses his ex girlfriends. Sorting out various conflicting feelings about his current relationship. Making deep connections with strippers. Etc.. He does what he does. He is in touch with his feminine side. Thats him. I'm not mad about it, it is what it is.


Guy has a style... it sells records. Record execs see it, so they push him to do it more, so he does it more.

But then he starts doin stuff like saying hes the greatest. Hes the king of rap. etc..

And now he makes a song named wu-tang forever. What is the song about?



Honestly I listened to the song and I dont know.. Hes in love with some broad and some bullshit lyrics about his friends or something. Basically some usual exploring his emotions drake shit with some incoherent ramblings about his n!ggas.


What the f*ck does this song have to do with wu-tang. He says "Young ***** came through on his Wu-Tang." How so drake? Is he paying them props? Not one line in the song gives them homage. He doesnt recognize what they did, it is not in their style. It looks like to me hes just throwing the name of one of the grittiest groups on another one of his vag!nal secretion songs with some weak ass lyrics just to go for some shock value. Actually I'm pretty sure thats what hes doing. Drake is a savvy dude... he knows he gets dogged all the time for being a daisy queen.. He knew this song would create a bunch of buzz.. or "hate" or whatever.. and it comes out right before the release of the album. Its genius really. Drake and his PR teams are playing the public like puppets. But im rambling.


You guys really dont see why its getting all this hate?? Hes disrespecting the Wu Tang by associating their name with some fukking covert love song, not saying a damn thing about the wu tang in the song, just for some publicity. I'm not some hardcore wu-tang clan fan.. but if I was, I'd be real pissed my favorite group is getting associated with this love ballad singing/degrassi motherf*cker.

Uh

[kurple]

i'm too late an too lazy to join this discussion

but drake suck ass.

and to the person that was hating on G Rap and Rakim. **** off

[andgar923]

Wu style mixed with drake?

Perhaps I heard the wrong song but that didnt sound a damn thing like the Wu Tang I remember.

And real talk...I dont give two shits about Drake. Hes just another single producing rapper owning radio I dont listen to. But the hate he sees from fans of "real" hip hop is just laughable.

We went from....be yourself....stop the violence...rappers delight...rock duets....

To a point where someone who grew up upper middle class needs to talk murder and lie over wannabe Pete rock/Primo beats to be taken serious by the same kind of fans who are my age and asking what happened. Whats wrong with black culture, hip hop, and so on.

The problem is....90% of rappers come in and see that lying about being hard is the way to go. They go get their local garbage producer to whip up a beat that sounds like "Hard in the paint" and tell lies about streets they have never been on.

All these lying ass fake thugs all over the place making the same song and rhyming tech with bet and love with thugs over the same damn beat.

But the problem is....little rich kids who didnt come up hard rapping like little rich kids who didnt come up hard.

Hiphop is the fakest genre of music there ever was. Pushed by little white kids who think guys who have been rich and famous since they were 17 are real thugs and then weh ave guys my age fronting like every one of their favorine MCs isnt fake as a 3 dollar bill.

Bunch of muslims talking drug selling, people living down the street from Drake talking about streets they saw from their grandmas window at 13, and tatted up idiots screaming about murders they never did or will get involved in.

But Drake is a problem.

Thats why hip hop is dead. Not it being stacked with lying thugs who see destroying the minds of the youth as the path to success. Its dead because someone rapping about their actual life and appealing more to the average american is a success without the dumb mixtape beats that all sound like Pastor Troy mixed with the Neptunes.

Drake isnt my kind of music. But the kind of music I listen to is a hell of a lot faker than he is.

If Biggie were doing the shit from Dead Wrong he would have been in jail before album one.....

Im not gonna hate on dude for being himself. He didnt come up where I did. I respect that he doesnt lie to me about it.

When I think about how "real" fans make room for liars and fake thugs who live down the street from Drake and arent one bit more likely to do something "hard" but call out Drake for being closer to honest than most....

I kinda feel like Bunk on the wire.

"Makes me sick mother****er how far we done fell."

So many "real" fans only rep fake rappers. And dont even see the problem there........

Dude to put it quick and simple

[Kblaze8855]

nobody said you had to like him. since whatever mixtape had congratulations on it I think I only liked two solo songs he had.

and one just for the beat.

[Rasheed1]

:roll: Blaze is having a moment..

way off topic right now.. Just looking at the genre as a whole? I say I agree with alot of what blaze is saying, but it doesnt have sh*t to do with this issue right here.


fake muslims and rich white kids aside? the bottomline is that Wu fans dont wanna see Drake trying to rep Wu ... He's not built like that..

[Jailblazers7]

The "came through on his Wu Tang" line is about how he blew up and took over as an independent artist who got to basically dictate his contract with the labels.

I get why people are mad tho but it was probably Drake's intent to be controversial.

[Rasheed1]

Sheed what do you think of Jay Lethal doing Macho Man and Ric Flair impersonations?


:confusedshrug: I dont follow wrestling.. couldnt give you an opinion on that

[andgar923]

Sheed what do you think of Jay Lethal doing Macho Man and Ric Flair impersonations?

As long as they're good there is no problem.

What people don't get is, it isn't that Drake was paying a tribute, that's great if you ask me.

It's that it basically sucks.

He 'borrowed' their lines
He 'borrowed' Common's analogy
But that aint really the main issue

The main issue is he did it in a way that is against the Wu's core principle.

If dude had came out busting, people wouldn't be mad. Actually if he came out busting he may have earned some new fans. They may have seen him in a different light and learned to appreicate him. I was honestly expecting him to come out busting, getting raw on the mic. But he did everything that most of us and YES even the Wu have criticized him (and rap in general) of being:

Corny and lame

Again, it isn't that he sings (Pharaoh, Mos and a few others sing from time to time as well).

It isn't that he raps about relationships (even Wu members have doen that)

It's his whole style and approach.

[andgar923]

It just hit me.

There might be a distant but probably chance that I could produce for Drake.

[andgar923]

:lol


ace23 has a better chance

Not sure why you're laughing, you don't know why I DO have a distant chance.

[ace23]

and to the person that was hating on G Rap and Rakim. **** off
Not hating, just stating facts. :confusedshrug:

[unbreakable]

:roll:

OF COURSE Kblaze would defend Drake! Blaze is the first to defend fake ass ni66as.

Blaze loves Lebron, Drake, The Yankees, Obama, and Microsoft. This ni66a has no shame!

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[andgar923]

Not hating, just stating facts. :confusedshrug:
"your facts are backwards"

[ace23]

"your facts are backwards"
I have a more complex rhyme structure than Rakim. This is a fact. Hate on me all you want, but this is true.

I don't even know why Rasheed tried to bring my music into this. :oldlol:

[andgar923]

I have a more complex rhyme structure than Rakim. This is a fact. Hate on me all you want, but this is true.

I don't even know why Rasheed tried to bring my music into this. :oldlol:

You really don't tho.

[Kblaze8855]

I'm in a bar playing a drake song I don't know. it's some kinda intro.

stood out to me that he mentioned listening to cappadona.

and the next song is drake too.

life is funny

[Fresh Kid]

people still talking about this wack artist and his wack song? this iz krazy:facepalm

[red1]

Hey andgar you mad that this soft child actor became a multimillionaire rapper?
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24343136.jpg

[The-Legend-24]

Wu-Tang and Drake doing a song together now. Drake won. :oldlol:

https://twitter.com/WordOnRd/status/381941327992467456

[plowking]

Wu-Tang and Drake doing a song together now. Drake won. :oldlol:

https://twitter.com/WordOnRd/status/381941327992467456


:oldlol:

Andgar looking foolish.

[andgar923]

:oldlol:

Andgar looking foolish.
You forever on my nuts.

[Fawker]

drake is a great artist

[andgar923]

Hey andgar you mad that this soft child actor became a multimillionaire rapper?
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24343136.jpg

Why would I even care? :confusedshrug: