Better Call Saul discussion thread

[J Shuttlesworth]

Gettin better every week.

Had my doubts first couple shows.

Now, a-1
:djparty :party:

[J Shuttlesworth]

The Kettleman bitch is so hot

http://www.gfycat.com/AngryTotalImago

[Balla_Status]

I mentioned this before, but so far that beat, that sequence about 40 minutes in, that usually has little or no dialogue, and is overlayed pretty heavily with some musical piece, has been extremely well done.

They've played it for laughs, the drunken pretzel sticks. They've played it as a means to push plot, Saul's elder law add campaign. And last night it was played for tension and action with Mike's work.

It's a unique little mechanism that's worked great so far.

Tune Down by Chris Joss was the name of the music in that scene. Shazamed that shit.

Such a nice tune.

[rufuspaul]

The Kettleman bitch is so hot

http://www.gfycat.com/AngryTotalImago


:eek:


Too bad she's crazy.

[joe]

Tune Down by Chris Joss was the name of the music in that scene. Shazamed that shit.

Such a nice tune.

It sounded like 70s porn music, and that scene went on far too long imo. That was maybe the first time I disliked any scene in this show so far. I usually love their little music montages, but that one was just annoying and too long. I was dying for just more dialogue at that point. You only get the show for one hour every week.. I dont want to spend 5 minutes of it looking at Mike eat apples and do nothing..

[rufuspaul]

"25th Hour with Ned and Moll Flanders"


:oldlol: classic

[ButterFace]

"25th Hour with Ned and Moll Flanders"


:oldlol: classic

Yeah, that was a good line.

[Andrei89]

Good episode last night.

I am surely wrong, however, I think Chuck is pretending. One big fat pretend to escape something bad he did at the law firm in the past.

[Patrick Chewing]

"20 million"

:lol

[JohnnySic]

Chuck was funny during that meeting. Just sat there and stared. :oldlol:

[Andrei89]

Chuck was funny during that meeting. Just sat there and stared. :oldlol:


Cold blooded :applause: :applause:

[bagelred]

Good episode last night.

I am surely wrong, however, I think Chuck is pretending. One big fat pretend to escape something bad he did at the law firm in the past.

He's not pretending. It's just psychological, not physical. Chuck basically "forgot" he had his sickness when he went to trunk of the car. That's why he was fine, until Jimmy reminded him.

[Andrei89]

He's not pretending. It's just psychological, not physical. Chuck basically "forgot" he had his sickness when he went to trunk of the car. That's why he was fine, until Jimmy reminded him.

In the next episode he is talking to Jimmy outside and is also at HHM. Seems to have gotten over it.

[Siemens]

"20 million"

:lol

Best part of the episode. I liked the episode, but it was certainly the slowest of the season so far.

[Tarik One]

In the next episode he is talking to Jimmy outside and is also at HHM. Seems to have gotten over it.
It's linked to his disappointment in Jimmy. There's been a pattern during the past few episodes. Jimmy goes bad again, Chuck goes back to nutville.

[highwhey]

Looks like Saul's lady betrays him from the look in the previews for next week. I'm guessing because Saul used chuck's code for research and since he's listed as counselor on the case as well since that chick mentioned chuck had an agreement with their law firm. Her eyes lighted up when she heard class action lawsuit, what a b1tch, she's just a social climber and she's gonna screw saul over to climb the corporate latter, she already convinced him to get kettlemans back to their law firm.

She has Saul acting like a total fuccboi

[Tarik One]

Looks like Saul's lady betrays him from the look in the previews for next week. I'm guessing because Saul used chuck's code for research and since he's listed as counselor on the case as well since that chick mentioned chuck had an agreement with their law firm. Her eyes lighted up when she heard class action lawsuit, what a b1tch, she's just a social climber and she's gonna screw saul over to climb the corporate latter, she already convinced him to get kettlemans back to their law firm.

She has Saul acting like a total fuccboi

Make sense. This will play a large part in Jimmy abandoning his ethics. There is no loyalty or reward from doing the right thing

[Siemens]

It's linked to his disappointment in Jimmy. There's been a pattern during the past few episodes. Jimmy goes bad again, Chuck goes back to nutville.

Yeah, although Chuck was losing it at the end of the last episode even when Jimmy was being good.

[highwhey]

Make sense. This will play a large part in Jimmy abandoning his ethics. There is no loyalty or reward from doing the right thing
Vince Ghilligan is great at steering his audience into rooting for the main character. In BB, everyone wanted Walter alive despite his evil acts. Now with BCS, I'm rooting for Saul to get his but it's apparent that he's going to be screwed over and that will eventually lead into the shady lawyer we know

[ItsMillerTime]

Make sense. This will play a large part in Jimmy abandoning his ethics. There is no loyalty or reward from doing the right thing

Yup. There is no chance in hell Jimmy gets to keep this case, that dickbag Howard will snatch it away from him, maybe even with the help of Chuck.

Also, you'd think with Jimmy being a mail center clerk he would have figured out how to print things without a printer/copy code.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Best part of the episode. I liked the episode, but it was certainly the slowest of the season so far.
I thought the ep where Chuck is in the hospital was the slowest, but I still liked it.

I thought this ep was great. Lots of interesting dialogue and story development.

So it seems like the Hamlin dude is gonna steal the case, and this is what's gonna cause Jimmy to enter the "dark side".

[They Won]

Great show so far. I wonder what the finale of the season will be.

[chazzy]

Jimmy's about to get screwed. Using Chuck's HHM code to bill the printing job will be his downfall

[Siemens]

Jimmy's about to get screwed. Using Chuck's HHM code to bill the printing job will be his downfall

Good point.

[Siemens]

He may have been able to slide by before it became a $20M settlement.

[Tarik One]

Looks like Saul's lady betrays him from the look in the previews for next week. I'm guessing because Saul used chuck's code for research and since he's listed as counselor on the case as well since that chick mentioned chuck had an agreement with their law firm. Her eyes lighted up when she heard class action lawsuit, what a b1tch, she's just a social climber and she's gonna screw saul over to climb the corporate latter, she already convinced him to get kettlemans back to their law firm.

She has Saul acting like a total fuccboi

The women so far have been despicable so far (Kettleman/Kim/Mike's daughter-in-law).

Kim and Mike's daughter-in-law seem to be type to take advantage of people. Her "thanks for the money, but it's a drop in the bucket" response was out of line and was ploy to manipulate Mike to go out and hustle for some more case. She already knows that Mike is emotionally attached and distraught, so she it using that to her advantage.

[joe]

The women so far have been despicable so far (Kettleman/Kim/Mike's daughter-in-law).

Kim and Mike's daughter-in-law seem to be type to take advantage of people. Her "thanks for the money, but it's a drop in the bucket" response was out of line and was ploy to manipulate Mike to go out and hustle for some more case. She already knows that Mike is emotionally attached and distraught, so she it using that to her advantage.

I honestly think that Gilligan and co. are playing on the economic worries that so many people have these days. Both Breaking Bad and Better Call Soul have strong themes of poor finances, career woes, debt, and just fear of losing money. It is like, when you go back and watch movies from the Cold War era, they have themes of invasion, takeover, and nuclear holocaust, stemming from our fear of the Russians. It seems that Vince Gilligan is using that same kind of social fear to really pull in the audience, only this time, it is our financial distress being picked at.

[J Shuttlesworth]

WOW. JUST WOW :bowdown:

The plot, the acting, the visualization... what a show. Best episode thus far :applause: Season finale next week

[RoseCity07]

Blown away by tonights episode:eek: :eek:

[bigkingsfan]

Season finale already, fk.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Season finale already, fk.
10 episode season :mad:

Next is supposed to be 12 though. Lots of shows have short first seasons

[J Shuttlesworth]

I really hope that ****** Chuck gets struck by lightning

[highwhey]

I really hope that ****** Chuck gets struck by lightning
That was a stab in the heart. Your own family telling you you're a joke and a fake.

There's no greater disappointment than your own blood telling you you're no good. Great episode and perfect set up for who he eventually becomes.

[J Shuttlesworth]

That was a stab in the heart. Your own family telling you you're a joke and a fake.

There's no greater disappointment than your own blood telling you you're no good. Great episode and perfect set up for who he eventually becomes.
Yep. Honestly, I'm finding Jimmy's backstory of getting into the "dark side" a bit more empathetic than Walt's... yes, cancer and all

[ROCSteady]

This show exceeded my already decent expectations.


The latest episode was amazing; great dialogue and exchanges, excellent character development with the tension of Jimmy and the law firm & most importantly his brother. That was Emmy caliber television at the end in his brother's house.

I have a feeling Season 1 will end with Jimmy introducing himself as Saul Goodman for the first time

[dude77]

so kim didn't turn out to be a traitor after all ? .. wonder what ends up happening with her

[Nowitness]

This show exceeded my already decent expectations.


The latest episode was amazing; great dialogue and exchanges, excellent character development with the tension of Jimmy and the law firm & most importantly his brother. That was Emmy caliber television at the end in his brother's house.

I have a feeling Season 1 will end with Jimmy introducing himself as Saul Goodman for the first time

I was thinking the same thing. It was an amazing episode. Show has really gone beyond what I expected after Episode 1.

[Tarik One]

Yep. Honestly, I'm finding Jimmy's backstory of getting into the "dark side" a bit more empathetic than Walt's... yes, cancer and all
BB didn't focus much on Walt's backstory on screen. At least 16 years had gone by since Walt's severance from Gray Matter. Imagine a flashback season that focused on Walt's gradual state off oppression: The underpaying/underachieving career, him marrying "down" and settling for Skyler, working a crappy job at a car wash with an asshole boss for 5 years while his wife did nothing. Not to mention his broken relationship with his mother.

[Tarik One]

I don't believe Jimmy is going to transform into Saul right away. I hope not. I want this Jimmy thing to drag out for at least a couple more seasons.

[ZeN]

10 episode season :mad:

Next is supposed to be 12 though. Lots of shows have short first seasons
At least it wasn't as short as Breaking Bad 's first season, which was 7 episodes. That was however because of the writers strike.

[irondarts]

Soo god damn good.

[Styles p]

i think they should have just gave mike his own show.

[JohnnySic]

That scene where Mike punks that guy with the guns and then goes on that mission was pure Breaking Bad. :bowdown:

[Tarik One]

That scene where Mike punks that guy with the guns and then goes on that mission was pure Breaking Bad. :bowdown:
I was watching that scene and thinking Mike would've had no problems taking out the Aryans had he encountered them at some point. Both physically and strategically.

[Nastradamus]

MIke's such a boss

[J Shuttlesworth]

That scene where Mike punks that guy with the guns and then goes on that mission was pure Breaking Bad. :bowdown:
Lol that guy was Trevor from GTA5

[Sarcastic]

This show exceeded my already decent expectations.


The latest episode was amazing; great dialogue and exchanges, excellent character development with the tension of Jimmy and the law firm & most importantly his brother. That was Emmy caliber television at the end in his brother's house.

I have a feeling Season 1 will end with Jimmy introducing himself as Saul Goodman for the first time

I agree. He's gonna meet up with his scam artist friend from when he first used the name S'all Good-Man. They'll probably have a new scam, but instead he'll use his legal knowledge to get even more money.



Also the chimp with a machine gun was a great line.:lol

[ItsMillerTime]

Lol that guy was Trevor from GTA5

Came in to mention this. I got a whole GTA vibe just from the 3 henchmen standing around waiting for their contact. Then I realized that's fkn Trevor lol. I hope he reappears down the road.

[JohnnySic]

Lol that guy was Trevor from GTA5
That's spot on. :roll:

[J Shuttlesworth]

That's spot on. :roll:
Well, it's literally true. This is the guy who voiced trevor:

http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Trevor.jpg

His recent IMDB credentials:

http://i.imgur.com/9HK4MRy.png

[Andrei89]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnhnAbzbQb4

Lying miserable pig ****er"

I wondered why they allowed the word "****er" on AMC. Then I realized, I was watching the torrented version where it was not censored.

[ballup]

Damn, Chuck did Jimmy dirty. Even asked his partner to lay under the bus.

[AkronAngel]

Just watched the episode. Great great episode. Mike's speech about good criminals, bad cops, etc was perfect foreshadowing for Chuck and Jimmy.

[AkronAngel]

Lol that guy was Trevor from GTA5

That is awesome.

[AkronAngel]

I agree. He's gonna meet up with his scam artist friend from when he first used the name S'all Good-Man. They'll probably have a new scam, but instead he'll use his legal knowledge to get even more money.



Also the chimp with a machine gun was a great line.:lol

Another option is that he connects with Nacho, who told him to contact him when he is ready to be in the game.

[AkronAngel]

Damn, Chuck did Jimmy dirty. Even asked his partner to lay under the bus.

Hard to believe he hated that guy for years, and it was Chuck all along. The other guy is still a bit of a scumbag, but didn't necessarily do it out of hate. This whole time I thought it was over the girl.

[embersyc]

Chuck is such a bastard.

[Thorpesaurous]

I caught up last night. I thought it was awesome too. The way Jimmy laid out the reveal on Chuck I thought was handled great. The Ehrmantrought segment was spot on. They have a tendency to, and they did this in BB too, where they overplay these one off characters, turning them in to charicatures almost, which they did with the guy who could get the pills. And I think it adds some punch to those one off type scenes. I think the boss that dealer was trying to work outside the network of will wind up being Gus.

And I'm glad Kim didn't turn out to be the one who used the case to advance. I'm glad she seems like she's going to stick it out with him. Even if it means a painful stretch here while Jimmy sulks over the truth. Because she's a great character.

[embersyc]

I think the boss that dealer was trying to work outside the network of will wind up being Gus.

He is Tuco's boy. This is already well known.

[Tarik One]

He is Tuco's boy. This is already well known.
You're misunderstanding. He (Nacho) is making deals on the side without Tuco's knowing. Perhaps these deals are connected to Gus.

[JohnnySic]

I like that this show is a little more grounded in reality than Breaking Bad was. As great as BB was, things got pretty ridiculous after season one. Maybe this one will too, we'll see.

[JohnnySic]

Also, like many others, I questioned whether they could build a show around a supporting character like Saul. But its working. I think its because people expected to get the full blown Saul from the get-go; in that case the show would have gotten stale quickly. Watching his evolution is far more interesting.

[bluechox2]

the moment that Trevor looking guy walked in, i was like dam he looks like Trevor, the walk, and the stance was spot on

[highwhey]

the moment that Trevor looking guy walked in, i was like dam he looks like Trevor, the walk, and the stance was spot on
He looks like a type cast, so it's likely he plays the same role everywhere

[Tarik One]

I wonder how much time will be devoted to him and Marco (fat scamming guy from Chicago) in the finale

[That_Admiral]

This show just keeps getting better and better :bowdown: But the season is ending so early, doesn't even feel like 9 episodes have been watched

[Tarik One]

This show just keeps getting better and better :bowdown: But the season is ending so early, doesn't even feel like 9 episodes have been watched
Progressive plots/storylines are the best

[Andrei89]

https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/21027_10152922734963402_6032362040501580656_n.jpg? oh=91781bd2d86d06a26a330d0f1ec099d9&oe=55A4BABF

[ItsMillerTime]

https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/21027_10152922734963402_6032362040501580656_n.jpg? oh=91781bd2d86d06a26a330d0f1ec099d9&oe=55A4BABF

Lmfao, so many callbacks that we don't even notice.

Great episode btw. RIP Marco. Wassup Saul Goodman.

[Tarik One]

https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/21027_10152922734963402_6032362040501580656_n.jpg? oh=91781bd2d86d06a26a330d0f1ec099d9&oe=55A4BABF

"B" as in Belize
http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-700/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/4/7/1428396693377/9fafa516-2443-4dca-9b3a-56ef7da48dc9-1020x612.jpeg

"Have you ever considered sending him on a trip to Belize"
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/08/22/arts/bbad/bbad-blog480.png

[Patrick Chewing]

Good question for you BB freaks.

Never seen but just the first episode of BB. Should I catch up on it, or just wait and see how BCS plays out and then watch it?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Good question for you BB freaks.

Never seen but just the first episode of BB. Should I catch up on it, or just wait and see how BCS plays out and then watch it?
do what u want, but i'd try catching up on breaking bad while saul is on break. regardless, it better be on ur bucket list.

great season finale btw.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wasn't the biggest fan of the finale, but still a good ep. Can't wait for season 2

[That_Admiral]

we have to wait till next year :(

[That_Admiral]

they might take their time in bringing in saul goodman
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/better-call-saul-co-creator-we-like-saul-goodman-but-we-love-jimmy-mcgill

[Thorpesaurous]

It was a really excellent season. It was particularly impressive that knowing how things play out long term didn't effect me very much watching in the moment.

One thing I look forward to seeing played out is the relationship with Kim. She's a spectacular character, especially as a supporting character, in a medium where good supporting female characters seem few and far between. She's smart and funny. They hint at intimacy, but haven't actually gotten anywhere. And most importantly, she's not a nag. She's got her own legitimate reasons for being torn between her career and Jimmy with real gray area in her behavior, without being a one note character.

With her not existing in BB though, I expect something horrible to happen between them at some point. Could be anything, even just a flaming out with Jimmy. And the way they've already shown a willingness, and an aptitude, for tinkering with the time line (including the long current time opening at Cinnabon), I'd love to see a final season set in real time where Cinnabon Saul tracks her down and becomes Jimmy again.

[CelticBaller]

Bump

Lalo is ****ing terrifying. Dude is legit a scarier villian than Gus

[highwhey]

Bump

Lalo is ****ing terrifying. Dude is legit a scarier villian than Gus

the thumping on the gravel as it grew louder in the end scene lol, dude was pissed. i think he's a better villain than Fring too.

this scene killed me :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/xd37tnH0/ezgif-com-video-to-gif-1.gif

[Manny98]

Just finished
Greatest show of all time alongside Breaking Bad

Saul is one of the greatest written characters in fiction

I feel empty as I feel like I have seen peak TV and nothing else could top Breaking Bad/BCS

[Airupthere]

Just finished
Greatest show of all time alongside Breaking Bad

Saul is one of the greatest written characters in fiction

I feel empty as I feel like I have seen peak TV and nothing else could top Breaking Bad/BCS

BCS makes me want to rewatch Breaking Bad all of over again.

[SouBeachTalents]

No disrespect to BCS, a great show in its own right, but imo Breaking Bad was clearly the better show between the two.

[ShawkFactory]

No disrespect to BCS, a great show in its own right, but imo Breaking Bad was clearly the better show between the two.

I would probably agree given the how climactic the arcs of the main characters turned out to be in BB. BCS was never going to be able to be on that same field.

But I think it's every bit as well done when it comes to character development and overall cinematography/direction. And there have been times where I've enjoyed it just as much.

[Lebron23]

Nacho and Lalo are my favorite characters in thiss spin-off.

[ArbitraryWater]

This bump makes me realize I have to finish BCS, and reading some of the pages here got me hyped to do so.

[highwhey]

what a show

[Full Court]

In my opinoin, Better Call Saul was a better series than Breaking Bad.

[Lebron23]

https://youtu.be/VYbsVBjKQek?si=tOT1vDoBqDZX-c_F dude the dude the worker guy

[SouBeachTalents]

^ Couldn't have said it better myself

[highwhey]

^ Couldn't have said it better myself

'dude the dude the worker guy'?