View Full Version : In 2012 there were 12.2 million arrests in the U.S. and 410 uses of "deadly force"
CavaliersFTW
11-01-2015, 08:13 PM
There is one police killing in 0.00003 percent of all arrests made.
There are actually 240 million emergency calls made to the police every year. So the number of times people are killed due to police arriving on the scene is even several orders of magnitude lower than that.
Police being trigger happy murderers in the U.S. is a myth, it is not a real thing, sorry.
CavaliersFTW
11-01-2015, 08:23 PM
Should also add that of those people arrested, it was almost entirely people resisting arrest and/or posing a threat to police that became victims of said lethal force.
If you get arrested, or talked to by police you are ridiculously unlikely to die unless you resist said arrest in an aggressive/dangerous manner toward the police.
If you don't do either of those things, you're pretty much guarantee'd to live. So I don't see what this alleged police killing epidemic is all about. Seems a completely made-up 'problem' to me.
nathanjizzle
11-01-2015, 09:24 PM
blaque people
TripleA
11-01-2015, 09:33 PM
blaque people
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ace23
11-02-2015, 04:33 AM
.003 percent
DonD13
11-02-2015, 06:03 AM
.003 percent
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OP went to US public schools :oldlol:
BigTicket
11-02-2015, 09:06 AM
Did you pull those numbers out of your ass, or is there an actual source you could share ?
The Valley
11-02-2015, 09:18 AM
Fun fact: 2015 is on pace to have the most murders by pigs in American history
Fun fact: 2015 is on pace to have the most murders by pigs in American history
I don't consider it a murder if they're being shot at.
Of the 776 people killed by police this year, only 161 (20.9%) were unarmed (which is a relative term). Unarmed could mean trying to run someone over with a car.
And ironically, more whites are killed by cops then blacks this year. The media would like you to think differently.
Giaodollo
11-02-2015, 10:53 AM
Of the 776 people killed by police this year, only 161 (20.9%) were unarmed (which is a relative term). Unarmed could mean trying to run someone over with a car.
That is terrible, why would a cop ever need to kill an unarmed criminal? 21%? that is crazy.
The Valley
11-02-2015, 10:54 AM
I don't consider it a murder if they're being shot at.
Of the 776 people killed by police this year, only 161 (20.9%) were unarmed (which is a relative term). Unarmed could mean trying to run someone over with a car.
And ironically, more whites are killed by cops then blacks this year. The media would like you to think differently.
This is true. **** the media. They are basically turning it into a race issue to stir up controversy and making the general white population feel like they need to take the cops side. Complete brainwashing.
Look at the video of the Zachary Hammond MURDER. The pig got off on all charges despite lying about Hammond driving towards him and killing him when we was on no threat.
NBAplayoffs2001
11-02-2015, 10:57 AM
I wonder what it was in the 80s or 90s when NYC, LA, Chicago, DC were wayyy worse crime wise.
That is terrible, why would a cop ever need to kill an unarmed criminals? 21%? that is crazy.
Because it's a relative term.
Like I said, a suspect trying to run over someone in their car is considered 'unarmed'. Throwing punches at an officer is still considered unarmed. Michael Brown, at 6'4 296lbs, was considered unarmed as he was slugging that officer in the mouth. A suspect wrestling over a cops gun is unarmed.
There's no 'is he armed or not' in the definition, and execution, of deadly force.
This is true. **** the media. They are basically turning it into a race issue to stir up controversy and making the general white population feel like they need to take the cops side. Complete brainwashing.
Look at the video of the Zachary Hammond MURDER. The pig got off on all charges despite lying about Hammond driving towards him and killing him when we was on no threat.
That was one of the most blatant cases of murder I have seen. And the cop walked??
And while it's unfair of me to say this now, the guy should have just stopped and taken his citation for his dime baggie.
Giaodollo
11-02-2015, 11:10 AM
Because it's a relative term.
Like I said, a suspect trying to run over someone in their car is considered 'unarmed'. Throwing punches at an officer is still considered unarmed. Michael Brown, at 6'4 296lbs, was considered unarmed as he was slugging that officer in the mouth. A suspect wrestling over a cops gun is unarmed.
There's no 'is he armed or not' in the definition, and execution, of deadly force.
Yes there is. You should be able expect a ****ing cop to be able to make a judgement call as to whether deadly force is necessary or not. It is not shot first ask questions later when human life is at stake. You are bringing out the extremeties like Michael Brown. In 99% of the cases a ****ing warning shot or a shot to the leg should suffice at the most extreme situation.
Yes there is. You should be able expect a ****ing cop to be able to make a judgement call as to whether deadly force is necessary or not. It is not shot first ask questions later when human life is at stake. You are bringing out the extremeties like Michael Brown. In 99% of the cases a ****ing warning shot or a shot to the leg should suffice at the most extreme situation.
That is completely illegal and incredibly stupid.
Which shows how much you DON'T know about Law Enforcement practices.
And, really, every cop who pulled the trigger did make a judgement call. What is investigated is whether the cop thought that the threat of death or serious bodily harm was imminent AT THE TIME HE PULLED THE TRIGGER (which is what is required for deadly force). Your opinion after watching a video two weeks later is irrelevant.
What matters is the officer's state of mind at the moment he pulled the trigger.
HitandRun Reggie
11-02-2015, 11:33 AM
That is terrible, why would a cop ever need to kill an unarmed criminal? 21%? that is crazy.
Well I'm sure the families of slain cops, killed by their own gun from a previously unarmed criminal, have a pretty good idea as to why.
Maybe officer Wilson should have let Michael Brown try and wrestle his gun away from him a second time? He was "unarmed" right. :rolleyes:
Apparently around 5% of cops are feloniously killed by their own weapon a year. There was even one year in the 80s where 20% were killed by their own weapon.
Giaodollo
11-02-2015, 11:42 AM
Maybe US cops needs to be better educated, there is no western country in the world that comes close to this.
Kblaze8855
11-02-2015, 12:43 PM
as with everything else is relative.
Personally I know three cops well. One is a trigger happy gun nut who actually told us he got the job so he can get away with murder. He was mostly joking but not entirely. He was talking to a bunch of friends. he grew up across the street from my cousin and best friend and I've known him 20 years. I've seen him pull guns on two friends of mine before he was a cop.
Another was a DARE officer who married my uncle Billy and took shots at him in their driveway when she found out he was cheating. did not lose her job for it and continued working in schools.
the other is a gun nut and looks like the classic southern redneck but I'd say he's the nicest and most level headed of the three.
I'd say in my experience cops are pieces of shit just as often as non cops. But you expect a much better ratio among people given that power and responsibility.
I've been thrown up against a fence and searched for crack when all I was doing was walking to the store to get my mom and little sister some candy. Apparently I was threat enough to justify an additional 2 cars arriving for a total of six armed officers on the scene to make sure I didn't have a warrant out. The officers there also unclasped their guns and acted pretty threateing at one point because my friend was apparently standing wrong. I've also seen family get pretty much Rodney Kinged in my grandmother's front yard for supposedly saying the wrong thing to a white woman. I'm just old enough to remember when shit like that was a fairly regular occurrence in the south. And it doesn't help that my grandfather's little brother was killed by a group of people including police and hung near City Hall in Orangeburg South Carolina back in the day.....
I did not grow up looking at police as benevolent protectors.
The great majority of my experiences with them have been negative.
And now that we're in an age when everything is on video? As bad as it looks to people now I can't imagine how it would have looked if you could have seen the way the police were 20-30 years ago. I'm sure just everyone having cell phones has vastly reduced police abuse. We had a guy called officer Webb when I was a teenager who was an absolute ****ing terrorist. I saw friends get their ass kicked for not breaking up a basketball game as quickly as he would have liked to clear the park in our neighborhood that he arbitrarily decided he could clear.
I suspect that having to answer for so much they do has actually made police better than they've ever been.
NumberSix
11-02-2015, 02:30 PM
as with everything else is relative.
Personally I know three cops well. One is a trigger happy gun nut who actually told us he got the job so he can get away with murder. He was mostly joking but not entirely. He was talking to a bunch of friends. he grew up across the street from my cousin and best friend and I've known him 20 years. I've seen him pull guns on two friends of mine before he was a cop.
And, you haven't reported this maniac?
Kblaze8855
11-03-2015, 12:31 AM
What would that accomplish and how would I prove it? everyone knows what he is and no one seems that bothered by it. he spent years driving around in a blood red crown vic with a ****ing Jason mask hanging off the rear view mirror. I suppose it didn't come up in his psych evaluation.
he's not just some terrible person I hate or anything. When his mother passed he came to my house with some of our friends and we sat and listened to music and drank all night chilling with him so it's not like I'm saying **** the guy. He just shouldn't have authority and a weapon.
to my knowledge he's had no incidents but he's been a state trooper all this time so it's not like he's patrolling neighborhoods.
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