Live Iowa Caucus Results

[UK2K]

Microsoft does it again.

https://www.iagopcaucuses.com/#/state -GOP

https://www.idpcaucuses.com/#/state democrat

It's the beginning of the end for us all. God help us.

[highwhey]

Sometimes when i lay in bed, i like to warm myself up by removing my shirt and sensually running my finger along my stomach or chest until i get goosebumps. Thereafter, I begin binge watching bbw p0rn

[9erempiree]

I can't see anything.

The site is down or something.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I can't see anything.

The site is down or something.
I'm just getting zeros everywhere

[dude77]

haven't begun yet .. 8 pm est

[9erempiree]

haven't begun yet .. 8 pm est

I don't think it started either.

[UK2K]

haven't begun yet .. 8 pm est
This.

[UK2K]

If Trump doesn't win, I think his campaign is done.

The big dogs in politics don't like him, nor trust him, and if he comes in second, he loses his claim that he's the most beloved person on the planet.

[bladefd]

After tonight, 4-5 candidates are out the door. Let the cross-off commence. :cheers:

[dude77]

If Trump doesn't win, I think his campaign is done.

The big dogs in politics don't like him, nor trust him, and if he comes in second, he loses his claim that he's the most beloved person on the planet.

but .. he's leading big in the other upcoming states .. why would he be done ? .. unless we're saying everyone is going to abandon him if he loses iowa .. but the gop nom is usually a loser in iowa anyways

[9erempiree]

Beginning pretty soon here

[Trollsmasher]

record turnout for GOP is being reported

43% 1st timers

Trump has this in a bag

[bladefd]

Many first time voters coming out.. Teenagers/college students aka the Bernie supporters :pimp:

Feel teh Berrrrrrrrn.

Trump vs Sanders?? :D

[UK2K]

-- The Des Moines Register's Jennifer Jacobs reported that she's seeing "crazy amounts of new registrations" at GOP caucuses, a potentially good sign for Trump.

[UK2K]

but .. he's leading big in the other upcoming states .. why would he be done ? .. unless we're saying everyone is going to abandon him if he loses iowa .. but the gop nom is usually a loser in iowa anyways
I think it's an image thing for him personally.

[dude77]

cnn early entrance poll :

trump - 27

cruz - 22

rubio - 21

[UK2K]

Cruz 36
Trump 34

Clinton 51
Sanders 49

With a few thousand votes.

[Take Your Lumps]

Cruz 36
Trump 34

Clinton 51
Sanders 49

With a few thousand votes.

Where are you seeing these numbers?

The DMR site got hugged to death
http://data.desmoinesregister.com/iowa-caucus/results/index.php#republican

[TheSilentKiller]

Great site to track the race

http://graphics.latimes.com/election-2016-iowa-results/

[UK2K]

Where are you seeing these numbers?

The DMR site got hugged to death
http://data.desmoinesregister.com/iowa-caucus/results/index.php#republican

Check OP.

Microsoft has it live.

[9erempiree]

Can't someone just find a stream.

These sites are getting killed by the traffic.

[UK2K]

Can't someone just find a stream.

These sites are getting killed by the traffic.
GOP site is swamped.

Trump is about to crush. Good lord.

[Take Your Lumps]

Check OP.

Microsoft has it live.

:cheers:

[9erempiree]

The results I am looking at just jumped Trump to 1st.

If this is correct....let the domination roll.

[dude77]

the microsoft site gave out .. come on ! get it back up

[9erempiree]

Neck and neck

[bladefd]

Hmm, Trump v Cruz only ones getting the numbers that matter - the other Repubs going out the door.

Clinton will win this one. O'Malley may be out the door tonight.

[dude77]

ok it's back .. cruz with 39 more votes .. 3 % reporting .. fkning iowa .. get your shit together .. can't believe people are voting for that sleazy looking 5'8" bird face looking mfer

[dude77]

these people sure did not prepare at all for the traffic :hammerhead:

[Trollsmasher]

ok it's back .. cruz with 39 more votes .. 3 % reporting .. fkning iowa .. get your shit together .. can't believe people are voting for that sleazy looking 5'8" bird face looking mfer
I guess he has a stronger support in smaller, rural caucuses whcih tend to be more conservative and their results come in first

No way he will beat Trump in more liberal, metropolian areas. The fact that Trump is hanging in there right from the start is pretty good

[Jameerthefear]

link to microsoft?

[9erempiree]

It's going ok but I am expecting a surge for Trump once it starts approaching the half way mark.

[dude77]

I guess he has a stronger support in smaller, rural caucuses whcih tend to be more conservative and their results come in first

No way he will beat Trump in more liberal, metropolian areas. The fact that Trump is hanging in there right from the start is pretty good

interesting .. good observation

[TheSilentKiller]

link to microsoft?
in the op

[dude77]

rubio's having a decent showing .. but I assume the top 2 will pull away completely eventually

[9erempiree]

I've notice the Cruz crushed everyone with the districts that he's won.

Trump barely wins his districts.

[FillJackson]

MS
gop not working

Dems 14% in
CLINTON
53.0%

SANDERS
46.5%


LA Times
6.8% in
Ted
CRUZ
1,290 31.1%

Donald
TRUMP
1,245 30%

Marco
RUBIO
658 15.9%

[dude77]

shit's making me nervous .. cruz up by 100 votes now ...that shouldn't sound like a lot though but you know .. only 7% in

[9erempiree]

Iowans are really disappointing me.

[Akrazotile]

gop not working

Dems 14% in
CLINTON
53.0%

SANDERS
46.5%


LA Times

Ted
CRUZ
1,290 31.1%

Donald
TRUMP
1,245 30%

Marco
RUBIO
658 15.9%

How do Cruz and Rubio get votes? All republicans are racist I thought?

[FillJackson]

What's the deal with the caucus, the votes can change, right? Because you have to stick around all night??

Anyone know when the votes are final?

[dude77]

Iowans are really disappointing me.

my thoughts exactly but I'm banking on what troll said .. still early .. pro cruz precincts reporting so far ? .. only 7% precincts in .. still a lot of voters to come

[dude77]

**** cnn .. doing a real time count at some precinct .. rubio 41 cruz 32 trump 15 gtfoh lol

[9erempiree]

my thoughts exactly but I'm banking on what troll said .. still early .. pro cruz precincts reporting so far ? .. only 7% precincts in .. still a lot of voters to come

Yes, there is still a lot.

Most of the precincts are not done counting.

[TheSilentKiller]

bernie moving up on hillary, rubio moving up but cruz and trump holding a good lead.

[dude77]

cruz lead on trump growing .. weak ass shit .. stupid ass iowa .. the only thing I can say is they usually don't pick the gop nominee so onto nh if it goes like this

[Take Your Lumps]

bernie moving up on hillary, rubio moving up but cruz and trump holding a good lead.

Damn. He just keeps inching forward somehow. She'll probably still squeak it out but I hope they didn't pop the champagne just yet.

[9erempiree]

Trump just has to move on from this crap state.

[TheSilentKiller]

Damn. He just keeps inching forward somehow. She'll probably still squeak it out but I hope they didn't pop the champagne just yet.
bernie will win tonight. rural areas tend to go faster and are defo more likely to support hillary.

[Take Your Lumps]

bernie will win tonight. rural areas tend to go faster and are defo more likely to support hillary.

I dunno it's hard to say...already 40% reporting. But he's already cut her lead in half so you might be right.

[Long Duck Dong]

Trump just has to move on from this crap state.

http://www.donkells.com/images/tractor.jpg

[Take Your Lumps]

Both Bernie and Trump are down 3%.

Rubio making the bought and paid for establishment very happy tonight.

[Smook B]

What do people see in Ted Cruz?

[TheSilentKiller]

What do people see in Ted Cruz?
religion

[9erempiree]

What do people see in Ted Cruz?

I have no idea.

Cruz is a sleaze.

[dude77]

well looks like passing the debate might have cost the don .. his first blunder .. not a good one .. but recoverable

[Terahite]

What do people see in Ted Cruz?

No one gives a shit about Ted Cruz. If Trump loses to this cuck then the illuminati is rigging the polls.

[9erempiree]

well looks like passing the debate might have cost the don .. his first blunder .. not a good one .. but recoverable

I know you must be devastated right now but keep your head up high.

[UK2K]

Cruz up 29 -26

[Smook B]

Looks like Sanders will stay neck to neck with Hillary til the end.

[bladefd]

As much as I don't like Trump, Cruz is outright dangerous for America. He is a war-mongering tool like Fiorina/Christie. Whoever votes for Cruz is supporting more wars throughout the Middle-East led by America.

[Take Your Lumps]

Clinton lead down to 50.9 to 48.5. Not bad!

I think Story County is one to watch (right in the center of the state)...pretty sure that's where Iowa State is and Bernie's been making up some ground there.

[TheSilentKiller]

His platform isnt particularly religious at all.
:biggums:

[BasedTom]

rest in peace trump

[dude77]

I know you must be devastated right now but keep your head up high.


I will .. like I said before, I'm banking on the fact that iowa usually doesn't pick the gop nom .. we'll see

[Jameerthefear]

Trump out meme-d!
****ing owned.

[TheSilentKiller]

You thinking about huckabee or something? Rubio has been hounding religion way harder even though it doesnt seem as genuine. Cruz is just ideologically very conservative, and is the kind of small government guy the republican base salivates for. He talls a lot about stuff like flat taxes, immigration, deregulation etc. He doesnt stick it to the religious issues much harder than the average republican.
More than Trump and Carson. The only other top candidate (who has garnered at least 10% of the GOP vote at one point this year) who depends on religion as much as cruz is rubio. But rubio is more brown which hurts him.

[dude77]

and how about those polls ? .. rcp and huffington got shit right

[dude77]

Republicans are only 25% finished. Any of the three still has a chance unless Im misinformed

50% in .. cruz up 3200 votes .. it's over

[Smook B]

Why is GOP taking longer to cast votes?

[DonDadda59]

I will .. like I said before, I'm banking on the fact that iowa usually doesn't pick the gop nom .. we'll see

Who's gonna save you now, playboy? Where's your messiah now?

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Terrorist-Kumal-Aka-Kal-Penn-Laughing-Hysterically-In-Harold-and-Kumar-Escape-From-Guantanamo-Bay.gif

[FillJackson]

Clinton lead down to 50.9 to 48.5. Not bad!

reporter on twitter says he's hearing from both Clinton and Sanders polling folks and they both expect her to be above 50% at the end of the night.

[TheSilentKiller]

Nobody cares Rubio is Cuban or whatever. Its not 1950.

Trump doesnt really go after normal republican voters.

Carsons campaign is dead.
People shouldn't, but some do. Go to the South and talk to some Trump supporters

[dude77]

Who's gonna save you now, playboy? Where's your messiah now?

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Terrorist-Kumal-Aka-Kal-Penn-Laughing-Hysterically-In-Harold-and-Kumar-Escape-From-Guantanamo-Bay.gif


lmao^


for the 2324545th time .. iowa is meaningless .. now if he loses nh then he's in deep shit

[bladefd]

reporter on twitter says he's hearing from both Clinton and Sanders polling folks and they both expect her to be above 50% at the end of the night.

Sanders is 49% now.. clinton 51%

[TheMan]

Lol @ Trump...

Can't even beat the very unlikeable Cruz :facepalm

Say what you will about the Donald, but he's got personality and is able to be funny at times

Cruz OTOH, has the personality of cardboard box and has the must punchable face ever, and he can't wipe the floor with him? Really?

Doesn't bode well for the Donald going foward TBH

[dude77]

Lol @ Trump...

Can't even beat the very unlikeable Cruz :facepalm

Say what you will about the Donald, but he's got personality and is able to be funny at times

Cruz OTOH, has the personality of cardboard box and has the must punchable face ever, and he can't wipe the floor with him? Really?

Doesn't bode well for the Donald going foward TBH

:facepalm they voted for rick fkn santorum 4 yrs ago and mike hukabee 4 yrs before that .. iowans are fkn dumb on the rep side .. they're in their own little world

[FillJackson]

Jeb Bush is running behind Rand Paul.

How does he justify staying in the race?

Would he be able to bring himself to endorse Rubio?

[BasedTom]

rand paul at 4%

still like 4th place

[DonDadda59]

lmao^


for the 2324545th time .. iowa is meaningless .. now if he loses nh then he's in deep shit

True. It's just the first race and the biggest winner tonight is easily Rubio. Now the establishment knows which horse to ride and who to throw truckloads of money at.

[dude77]

True. It's just the first race and the biggest winner tonight is easily Rubio. Now the establishment knows which horse to ride and who to throw truckloads of money at.

true

[dude77]

sanders to give a 'victory' speech .. regardless if he wins or loses .. trump should do the same .. don't trash iowa donald lol

[Smook B]

True. It's just the first race and the biggest winner tonight is easily Rubio. Now the establishment knows which horse to ride and who to throw truckloads of money at.

Rubio vs Clinton general election.

[9erempiree]

Rubio :facepalm

[TheSilentKiller]

In the end I doubt theyll make a difference. Its starting to look like once people drop out Rubio's path is ensured. Hes by far the most electable.
He is by far the most poised and "presidential" candidate.

[Derka]

I like Rand on an ideological level, but in reality his policies could be disastrous.
You always have to look at their policy ideas through the filter of "Could you get this through Congress intact?" Shit they say on the campaign trail very rarely comes to fruition as advertised.

[dude77]

Rubio :facepalm

yeah wtf can picture rubio as president .. he looks and sounds like a kid running for student body office .. people really are fkn retarded

[BasedTom]

I like Rand on an ideological level, but in reality his policies could be disastrous.
As opposed to antagonising Russia? :lol

[TheSilentKiller]

yeah wtf can picture rubio as president .. he looks and sounds like a kid running for student body office .. people really are fkn retarded
irony

[Take Your Lumps]

Bernie down 1.6%

[DonDadda59]

Rubio vs Clinton general election.

Ricky Rubio is easily the most electable candidate for the Elephants. He might be a problem in a general election. Hillary would absolutely smoke Cruz or Trump when it really counts. Bloodbath.

[9erempiree]

The GOP loves Rubio. Conservative views, young and can attract minority voters.

He's just too scripted and rehearsed.

He is also a career politician. These type of guys were groomed by the establishment to become President.

Just think of guys like Obama but on the right side.:eek:

[Patrick Chewing]

Awwww yeah


https://store.tedcruz.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/blacklistedandlovingit.jpg

[BasedTom]

yeah wtf can picture rubio as president .. he looks and sounds like a kid running for student body office .. people really are fkn retarded
Marco "Captain of the Debate Team" Rubio.

[Terahite]

As much as I don't like Trump, Cruz is outright dangerous for America. He is a war-mongering tool like Fiorina/Christie. Whoever votes for Cruz is supporting more wars throughout the Middle-East led by America.

Agreed. I am non-interventionist and opposed to everything we're doing in the ME except I am supporting Trump for that reason. Michael Scheuer, the former CIA intelligence officer who ran the Bin Laden unit in the late 90s, runs non-intervention.com and has endorsed Trump. Surprising as it may be to some Trump really is the best candidate in terms of foreign policy especially if you're tired of these phony wars of aggression which never end and wreak havoc all over the world :facepalm

Polls are rigged as shit if Trump loses to Cruz in any state. He is bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs and America is ****ed if he "wins".

[dude77]

irony

trump is 1000x more presidential than rubio .. rubio looks and sounds like a little bitch .. not like the president of the fkn free world .. trump goes off the rail at times but he destroys him in who looks more 'presidential'

[TheMan]

:facepalm they voted for rick fkn santorum 4 yrs ago and mike hukabee 4 yrs before that .. iowans are fkn dumb on the rep side .. they're in their own little world
I understand all that but isn't Trump supposed to be this new wave of doing politics differently and bringing out the people who never vote :confusedshrug:

Looks like they did just that, they didn't go out to vote :lol

I mean, he was leading in most polls of Iowa voters coming in

[ThePhantomCreep]

Rubio :facepalm

The only guy with a decent shot at the presidency.

Trump is a cartoon character and Cruz is too radical.

At the end of the day, this is a very centrist nation--"socialist, Marxist" Obama would be considered conservative in Europe.

[BasedTom]

lel, now is when martin o'malley suspends his campaign

nice job at 0%

[dude77]

Polls are rigged as shit if Trump loses to Cruz in any state.


wouldn't doubt this

[KyrieTheFuture]

Rubio is terrible

[Patrick Chewing]

The only guy with a decent shot at the presidency.

Trump is a cartoon character and Cruz is too radical.

At the end of the day, this is a very centrist nation--"socialist, Marxist" Obama would be considered conservative in Europe.


Radical? What has he said that's more radical than Trump?? LOL

[9erempiree]

In the end, I believe this was a success for Trump. He didn't have to spend much money on this campaign, funded by himself.

He dissed Fox News by refusing their debate.

Most importantly, he raised 6 million dollars for the veterans of our country and finished 2nd.

That is a success especially for a guy that isn't a politician.

Most people thought he would be dead last and not even have a chance. To get that many votes should quiet any Trump doubters.

[knickballer]

Rubio is terrible

This. Rubio wants to increase military spending and bomb every country back to the stone age. Wants to skirmish with Russia, Iran and China just to make America feel respected again. No different from the other Republican candidates but he gets a pass and is branded as a good choice because he's the token latino republican..

He's no different than the other morons running from president.

[dude77]

In the end, I believe this was a success for Trump. He didn't have to spend much money on this campaign, funded by himself.

He dissed Fox News by refusing their debate.

Most importantly, he raised 6 million dollars for the veterans of our country and finished 2nd.

That is a success especially for a guy that isn't a politician.

:applause: well said ..

cruz can have iowa .. enjoy this because you're done after this

[DonDadda59]

In the end, I believe this was a success for Trump. He didn't have to spend much money on this campaign, funded by himself.

He dissed Fox News by refusing their debate.

Most importantly, he raised 6 million dollars for the veterans of our country and finished 2nd.

That is a success especially for a guy that isn't a politician.

Wasn't he up by like 7% in the Iowa polls a week or so before he ducked Megyn Kelly like a bitch?

Herman Cain lookin ass nigguh. :yaohappy:

[ThePhantomCreep]

trump is 1000x more presidential than rubio .. rubio looks and sounds like a little bitch .. not like the president of the fkn free world .. trump goes off the rail at times but he destroys him in who looks more 'presidential'

At times? :biggums:

Donald Trump is the most non-presidential candidate I've ever seen, by a good distance. He's a doofus.

[9erempiree]

Wasn't he up by like 7% in the Iowa polls a week or so before he ducked Megyn Kelly like a bitch?

Herman Cain lookin ass nigguh. :yaohappy:

You Fox News viewers and Kelly supporters need to chill. Not everything is about what channel you watch.

Think for your own.

[embersyc]

I understand all that but isn't Trump supposed to be this new wave of doing politics differently and bringing out the people who never vote :confusedshrug:

Looks like they did just that, they didn't go out to vote :lol

I mean, he was leading in most polls of Iowa voters coming in

You understand that Iowa holds Caucasus and not a primary election like most states right?

The Iowa Caucasus are described as "a gathering of neighbors".

I'm sure the process discourages newcomers.

[9erempiree]

This. Rubio wants to increase military spending and bomb every country back to the stone age. Wants to skirmish with Russia, Iran and China just to make America feel respected again. No different from the other Republican candidates but he gets a pass and is branded as a good choice because he's the token latino republican..

He's no different than the other morons running from president.

This.

He has said this many times and I can't believe people that support one candidate over to other still do not know where each candidate's views lie.

[DonDadda59]

You Fox News viewers and Kelly supporters need to chill. Not everything is about what channel you watch.

Think for your own.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[dude77]

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/IA.html

lol look at that shit .. mike hukabee blowing away the pack in iowa lol .. the eventual nominee in 4th place loses by 20

iowa = irrelevant

[Terahite]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

He may have confused you for PhantomCreep who is the biggest Fox News supporter on this site. :lol

[Derka]

Trump was polling at north of 40% a week ago. As bad of an indicator as Iowa is for Republicans, the fact is that Rubio ate up his voters like a cheesesteak sandwich. That's a lot of ad-buy money and a lot of potential endorsements heading his way going into NH.

[ALBballer]

I don't get why the GOP doesn't nominate Rand Paul. One of the few candidates that is actually sensible and I think could steal some democrat votes.

What a shitty election we have going for us. We have the warhawks like Rubio and cruz vs the bought out politician in Clinton or maybe Sanders who I like as a person but his populist socialistic rhetoric will be devastating to our economy.

[DonDadda59]

Trump was polling at north of 40% a week ago. As bad of an indicator as Iowa is for Republicans, the fact is that Rubio ate up his voters like a cheesesteak sandwich. That's a lot of ad-buy money and a lot of potential endorsements heading his way going into NH.

Yup, Ricky Rubio stole all the Donald's bitches when he exposed himself as a coward last week. It's gonna be raining endorsements and cash for Rubio the next few weeks.

[UK2K]

The GOP loves Rubio. Conservative views, young and can attract minority voters.

He's just too scripted and rehearsed.

He is also a career politician. These type of guys were groomed by the establishment to become President.

Just think of guys like Obama but on the right side.:eek:
Rubio is a puppet.

[I.Malcolm]

Trump is getting cucked. The salt is real.

[Derka]

O'Malley suspending his campaign, per CNN.

[9erempiree]

Trump is getting cucked. The salt is real.

Not really.

He is 2nd when most people on here said he would finish dead last.

:confusedshrug:

[BasedTom]

hory shet if rubio takes 2nd from trump

[TheMan]

You understand that Iowa holds Caucasus and not a primary election like most states right?

The Iowa Caucasus are described as "a gathering of neighbors".

I'm sure the process discourages newcomers.
Bernie Sanders is more than holding his own against Queen Hillary with the whole Democratic Party behind her and his biggest support is from young people who more than likely have never done this before :confusedshrug:

Trump is losing to a guy who is even more disliked than Trump is by the party establishment

[I.Malcolm]

Not really.

He is 2nd when most people on here said he would finish dead last.

:confusedshrug:
Nobody on here predicted Trump would finish last in Iowa.

[9erempiree]

hory shet if rubio takes 2nd from trump

That is actually scary and watch the GOP pump him as their candidate.

Probably the worst thing that can happen is for Cruz and Rubio to finish 1 and 2.

[dude77]

trump wasn't sounding too confident in some interviews today before tonight .. apparently he knew something was up

[9erempiree]

Nobody on here predicted Trump would finish last in Iowa.

I don't know who you are but this is the first time I have seen you.

You were not around before tonight so you never saw those comments.

There were tons of people crapping on Trump and saying he had no chance whatsoever.

[navy]

I don't get why the GOP doesn't nominate Rand Paul. One of the few candidates that is actually sensible and I think could steal some democrat votes.

What a shitty election we have going for us. We have the warhawks like Rubio and cruz vs the bought out politician in Clinton or maybe Sanders who I like as a person but his populist socialistic rhetoric will be devastating to our economy.
Same sentiment. These candidates are horrible. You gotta jump through huge mental gymnastics to support Trump, Cruz, Hilary or Bernie.

[FillJackson]

I don't get why the GOP doesn't nominate Rand Paul.
Because Republicans don't like him or his policies.

[I.Malcolm]

I don't know who you are but this is the first time I have seen you.

You were not around before tonight so you never saw those comments.

There were tons of people crapping on Trump and saying he had no chance whatsoever.
Literally nobody said Trump would finish last in Iowa.

[Take Your Lumps]

Bernie now down less than 1% but Clinton is declaring victory? Ok.

[TheMan]

Not really.

He is 2nd when most people on here said he would finish dead last.

:confusedshrug:
Dat spin :biggums:

None of the Trump detractors said such a thing

But all the ISH Trump groupies were claiming Iowa was in the bag :confusedshrug:

[dude77]

Dat spin :biggums:

None of the Trump detractors said such a thing

But all the ISH Trump groupies were claiming Iowa was in the bag :confusedshrug:

possible rig job .. polls had trump up 7 .. polls can't be that off

[dude77]

rcp is always pretty much on the money .. they had trump

[ALBballer]

Because Republicans don't like him or his policies.

Then republicans are gonna keep losing while they carry on with their anti-Muslim, anti-gay marriage, pro big army, anti abortion stance.

[FillJackson]

Bernie now down less than 1% but Clinton is declaring victory? Ok.

Clinton's up 11 delegates and O'Malley has seven and one is uncommitted.

If they break to Bernie that gets him a lot closer.

[dude77]

He bombed it by not going to the debate. Rubio took a big leap in that debate.

yeah that's what I'm thinking

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump went Cruzin' for a bruzin' and that's what he got.

[navy]

possible rig job .. polls had trump up 7 .. polls can't be that offWell actually...

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/iowa-is-the-hardest-state-to-poll/

[FillJackson]

Then republicans are gonna keep losing while they carry on with their anti-Muslim, anti-gay marriage, pro big army, anti abortion stance.

They would lose with Rand Paul too. Paul's biggest constituency has always been political reporters who like writing up something new. He gets a ton of press but he was never going to get 40% in Republican primary.

Also he is anti-abortion. He is also criticized the Supreme Court's ruling (http://time.com/3939374/rand-paul-gay-marriage-supreme-court/) on gay marriage.

[Nick Young]

Wow, Trump can't even beat that fat shit crazy man Cruz:lol

#SaveUsBasedWebb

[FillJackson]

The three states that are most favorable to Bernie Sanders demographically are Iowa, New Hampshire and Vermont.

[FillJackson]

If all but the top 3 Republicans drop out that's about another 25% to divy up among Trump, Bush and Cruz.

[FillJackson]

Clinton's up 11 delegates and O'Malley has seven and one is uncommitted.

If they break to Bernie that gets him a lot closer.

Bernie is now just 6 delegates away.

[dude77]

this is odd .. wtf are they giving so much attention to rubio's speech .. shit's been going on for like 10 min .. he finished 3rd .. part of the machine getting behind him perhaps ?

[LoneyROY7]

Your next president is Hillary Rodham Clinton. Cruz will get dominated.

[dude77]

Well actually...

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/iowa-is-the-hardest-state-to-poll/

well makes sense yep .. like I've said, iowans are in their own world when it comes to gop elections

[FillJackson]

Huckabee's Out. O'Malley's out.

Any others?

Steve Kornacki
Very rough math:
104 of the 233 outstanding precincts are in counties Sanders is leading.
129 are in Clinton counties.

[ThePhantomCreep]

possible rig job .. polls had trump up 7 .. polls can't be that off

Dude77 melting down Karl Rove style

:lol

[dude77]

Dude77 melting down Karl Rove style

:lol


one more time .. say with me since some of you are slow apparently .. iowa = irrelevant .. doesn't indicate anything .. you can tell who the no nothing retards are in this thread

[zoom17]

Huckabee's Out. O'Malley's out.

Any others?

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Steve Kornacki
Very rough math: 104 of the 233 outstanding precincts are in counties Sanders is leading. 129 are in Clinton counties.

Bush out.

[Jameerthefear]

sanders and hillary are getting reallllly close

[ThePhantomCreep]

one more time .. say with me since some of you are slow apparently .. iowa = irrelevant .. doesn't indicate anything .. you can tell who the no nothing retards are in this thread

No need to repeat, I can hear you whistling past the graveyard just fine. :oldlol:

[TheMan]

Dude77 melting down Karl Rove style

:lol
:oldlol:

[FillJackson]

Clinton's under 50 and Bernie is right with her.

[FillJackson]

Dude77 melting down Karl Rove style

:lol
someone tweeted.

Rove just called Ohio for Romney. #stillfunny

[dude77]

No need to repeat, I can hear you whistling past the graveyard just fine. :oldlol:

we'll be back here in a week and you'll have shit all over your face .. enjoy it troll

[Derka]

Dude77 melting down Karl Rove style

:lol
Certifiable. Would be in here screaming the beauty of Iowa's cornfields had Trump won it :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

Trump, hold this L

[dude77]

sanders clinton tied .. clinton trying to call the win lol

[9erempiree]

Very admirable of Trump.

When people got him last...he is 2nd.

:rockon:

On to New Hampshire.

[FillJackson]

Trump lost Iowa due to Sarah Palin.

[dude77]

Trump lost Iowa due to Sarah Palin.


ah forgot about her .. but yeah I was always skeptical of having her in the picture .. she didn't help any in 08 and was outright mocked .. not sure what the strategy was there

[FillJackson]

Time for musical break

https://youtu.be/xV7ZcVFSWWU?t=80

[9erempiree]

Pretty much what was expected....Iowa is a means to weed out the candidates. The top 3 are basically the people we expect to go all the way to the GE.

Trump
Rubio
Cruz

[stalkerforlife]

aaaaaaahahahahahhahahaha

Trump BEAT HIMSELF by being AFRAID to debate.

[9erempiree]

aaaaaaahahahahahhahahaha

Trump BEAT HIMSELF by being AFRAID to debate.

Not really.

He's off to the next round.

[FillJackson]

Oh, The Wells Fargo Wagon is Coming!
https://youtu.be/g8LHlJSBkg0?t=103

[Long Duck Dong]

Your next president is Hillary Rodham Clinton. Cruz will get dominated.

These Democrat racists sheeeeessshh

[Patrick Chewing]

Your next president is Hillary Rodham Clinton. Cruz will get dominated.


Clinton will be in jail by the time November comes around. And when it comes to debates, no one is better than Ted Cruz.


That old wench can't even talk for 5 mins without a coughing attack cause that ego is just too big.

[Long Duck Dong]

Damn Hillary, WTF was that? :roll:

All I heard and saw was

http://gifmansion.com/GM/uploads/2013/05/chickenknows.gif

[Jameerthefear]

holy shit it's close again

[dude77]

Microsoft at the last minute was let run the Caucus vote count. Microsoft gave Marco campaign contributions for his expansion of work H1B visas. Most polls days before had him in between 9 and 17%. :mad:

[Long Duck Dong]

holy shit it's close again

She just had to open her mouth. I think I saw Bill in back of her mouth the words, "Shut the cluck up"

[dude77]

Reagan entered the 1980 GOP presidential nomination contest as the clear front-runner, and dominated national GOP preference polls throughout 1979. But he suffered a narrow defeat to former CIA Director George H.W. Bush in Iowa, and Bush surged in the polls as a result. Immediately following Iowa, Bush and Reagan were tied. Bush's surge did not last, however, and within a week, Reagan had regained a slim national lead of seven points. After winning the New Hampshire primary on Feb. 26, Reagan regained his dominant positioning over the rest of the GOP field.

[dude77]

Reagan lost Iowa and won New Hampshire, South Carolina and then the Presidency

[9erempiree]

Microsoft at the last minute was let run the Caucus vote count. Microsoft gave Marco campaign contributions for his expansion of work H1B visas. Most polls days before had him in between 9 and 17%. :mad:

We were lucky to come out 2nd.

Look at what Trump has to go against.

For all the outlandish things he said, we came out 2nd and on to the next round.

[dude77]

We were lucky to come out 2nd.

Look at what Trump has to go against.

For all the outlandish things he said, we came out 2nd and on to the next round.

yes .. I predict a nh victory .. he's waaay out ahead .. the polls can't be that off if they're saying he's 22+ pts ahead .. if he loses there, shit is rigged

[BurningHammer]

This is down to the last vote.

Bernie Sanders is addressing Iowa supporters right now.

[BurningHammer]

Huckabee is out.

O'Malley is out.

[Long Duck Dong]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The Bernie crowd just cheered when he said we have a majority prison population of Latinos and African Americans. What a bunch of tards. :roll:

[9erempiree]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The Bernie crowd just cheered when he said we have a majority prison population of Latinos and African Americans. What a bunch of tards. :roll:

The real racists.:rolleyes:

There is a reason why they are 'tards. Any subject matter that consists of race, sex and sexuality, they always argue with passion but sadly passion cannot exist with rationale and logic.

Most of the libtards on ISH are that way and the more conservative members can argue and discuss everything in a civil manner without throwing snide remarks, jokes or calling someone a bigot/racist.

[Derka]

Rubio already picked up a big endorsement in SC this week. A decent showing in NH should at least knock the field of candidates down some.

[BasedTom]

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1454385618479.png

wow it's ****ing nothing

[zoom17]

I thought it was winner take all?

[oh the horror]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The Bernie crowd just cheered when he said we have a majority prison population of Latinos and African Americans. What a bunch of tards. :roll:


I'm pretty sure they didn't cheer in the context of what you're implying. Don't be stupid.

[Long Duck Dong]

Am I the only one who notices Bernie Sanders makes really funny movements with his mouth? Like he's trying really hard not to shart his pants. I keep waiting for an adult diaper commercial to pop on after he pauses.

[Nanners]

not that it matters, but ted cruz is a closet homosexual. the voice and mannerisms cant lie.

[Akrazotile]

not that it matters, but ted cruz is a closet homosexual. the voice and mannerisms cant lie.

If he makes it to the general election he should come out on election day right after the midwest polls have closed but while the west coast still has a couple hours to vote.

Dude would end up winning in a landslide.

[TheMan]

Who else watched the Iowa caucuses on The Young Turks? :rockon:

Best election day coverage :pimp:

[ThePhantomCreep]

The real racists.:rolleyes:

There is a reason why they are 'tards. Any subject matter that consists of race, sex and sexuality, they always argue with passion but sadly passion cannot exist with rationale and logic.

Most of the libtards on ISH are that way and the more conservative members can argue and discuss everything in a civil manner without throwing snide remarks, jokes or calling someone a bigot/racist.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--aJmLKq4Q--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_north,h_358,q_80,w_636/18kx9t3on9n28jpg.jpg

[Long Duck Dong]

Who else watched the Iowa caucuses on The Young Turks? :rockon:



Elliot Rodgers from Hell? :confusedshrug:

http://cdn2.everyjoe.com/wp-content/gallery/elliot-rodger/elliot-rodger-photos-11.jpg

[BasedTom]

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--aJmLKq4Q--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_north,h_358,q_80,w_636/18kx9t3on9n28jpg.jpg
I'm sorry, but did Trump already lose? Oh, that's right. The primary isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only Iowa. Does not having the lead in corn holing central count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the caucus is still on? Trump is still campaigning right now and they have been the top of the polls for how many months now? He's campaigning against one of the worst senators in the Senate who just happen to have a lead because he conned a bunch of Jesus freaks. But you know what? They still ****ing suck. Trump is one of the best ****ing businessmen in the nation, he rocked the polls last year and would of won the last debate if Megyn Kelly didn't mediate. Maybe you should shut the **** up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Trump wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Cruz just dropped a point. Are you a ****ing drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a ****ing idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm ****ing serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Trump topics because you're a ****ing hater who doesn't like the Trump because hes good. **** you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these ****ing people on the board, like I give a ****. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your ****ing life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. **** you. You are nothing.

[Long Duck Dong]

I don't know about the rest of ya'll but I'm personally shocked and dismayed by the racism and homophobia displayed by the Democrats in this thread. Isn't the fact that your old white guy made a strong showing, enough to quell your inherent rage? :confusedshrug:

[9erempiree]

I don't know about the rest of ya'll but I'm personally shocked and dismayed by the racism and homophobia displayed by the Democrats in this thread. Isn't the fact that your old white guy made a strong showing, enough to quell your inherent rage? :confusedshrug:

That is what I am trying to point out. Just look at the members here.

They are angry and incoherent. Too much passion and not enough thinking.

Read this entire thread and you can absolutely tell who the libtards are.

[Long Duck Dong]

That is what I am trying to point out. Just look at the members here.

They are angry and incoherent. Too much passion and not enough thinking.

Read this entire thread and you can absolutely tell who the libtards are.

You were spot on. It's like a Klan rally up in here.

[Im Still Ballin]

Shut up you Jew fakkit
Report to Command: We found the Goiym infidel

Reported to the enstablishment

Enjoy the ban

[poido123]

I'm sorry, but did Trump already lose? Oh, that's right. The primary isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only Iowa. Does not having the lead in corn holing central count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the caucus is still on? Trump is still campaigning right now and they have been the top of the polls for how many months now? He's campaigning against one of the worst senators in the Senate who just happen to have a lead because he conned a bunch of Jesus freaks. But you know what? They still ****ing suck. Trump is one of the best ****ing businessmen in the nation, he rocked the polls last year and would of won the last debate if Megyn Kelly didn't mediate. Maybe you should shut the **** up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Trump wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Cruz just dropped a point. Are you a ****ing drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a ****ing idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm ****ing serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Trump topics because you're a ****ing hater who doesn't like the Trump because hes good. **** you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these ****ing people on the board, like I give a ****. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your ****ing life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. **** you. You are nothing.



:roll: :roll:


:eek:



Damn son.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I'm sorry, but did Trump already lose? Oh, that's right. The primary isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only Iowa. Does not having the lead in corn holing central count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the caucus is still on? Trump is still campaigning right now and they have been the top of the polls for how many months now? He's campaigning against one of the worst senators in the Senate who just happen to have a lead because he conned a bunch of Jesus freaks. But you know what? They still ****ing suck. Trump is one of the best ****ing businessmen in the nation, he rocked the polls last year and would of won the last debate if Megyn Kelly didn't mediate. Maybe you should shut the **** up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Trump wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Cruz just dropped a point. Are you a ****ing drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a ****ing idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm ****ing serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Trump topics because you're a ****ing hater who doesn't like the Trump because hes good. **** you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these ****ing people on the board, like I give a ****. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your ****ing life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. **** you. You are nothing.

Jesus man, you're fully melted.

[Long Duck Dong]

I'm sorry, but did Trump already lose? Oh, that's right. The primary isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only Iowa. Does not having the lead in corn holing central count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the caucus is still on? Trump is still campaigning right now and they have been the top of the polls for how many months now? He's campaigning against one of the worst senators in the Senate who just happen to have a lead because he conned a bunch of Jesus freaks. But you know what? They still ****ing suck. Trump is one of the best ****ing businessmen in the nation, he rocked the polls last year and would of won the last debate if Megyn Kelly didn't mediate. Maybe you should shut the **** up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Trump wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Cruz just dropped a point. Are you a ****ing drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a ****ing idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm ****ing serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Trump topics because you're a ****ing hater who doesn't like the Trump because hes good. **** you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these ****ing people on the board, like I give a ****. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your ****ing life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. **** you. You are nothing.


Don't take this the wrong way but...Holy Chernobyl Batman!

[Dresta]

Microsoft at the last minute was let run the Caucus vote count. Microsoft gave Marco campaign contributions for his expansion of work H1B visas. Most polls days before had him in between 9 and 17%. :mad:
Nothing like selling out your fellow citizens to corporate oligarchs to give yourself a leg-up as a politician in the oh-so-decadent West.

[NumberSix]

Who else watched the Iowa caucuses on The Young Turks?
No, but I'd imagine they spent the majority of their coverage talking about Dylan Roof, the crusades, the Iraq war and slavery.

[NumberSix]

Microsoft at the last minute was let run the Caucus vote count. Microsoft gave Marco campaign contributions for his expansion of work H1B visas. Most polls days before had him in between 9 and 17%. :mad:
To be fair, Cruz wanted to triple the amount of H1B visas too.

[Dave3]

I'm sorry, but did Trump already lose? Oh, that's right. The primary isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only Iowa. Does not having the lead in corn holing central count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the caucus is still on? Trump is still campaigning right now and they have been the top of the polls for how many months now? He's campaigning against one of the worst senators in the Senate who just happen to have a lead because he conned a bunch of Jesus freaks. But you know what? They still ****ing suck. Trump is one of the best ****ing businessmen in the nation, he rocked the polls last year and would of won the last debate if Megyn Kelly didn't mediate. Maybe you should shut the **** up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Trump wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Cruz just dropped a point. Are you a ****ing drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a ****ing idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm ****ing serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Trump topics because you're a ****ing hater who doesn't like the Trump because hes good. **** you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these ****ing people on the board, like I give a ****. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your ****ing life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. **** you. You are nothing.
Thing is though, the bad news for Trump isn't that Cruz beat him. Cruz winning evangelical areas leading to a victory for the state isn't bad news for Trump, because Cruz (seemingly) has no strong chance to beat Trump in a lot of the upcoming states.

The terrible news for Trump is the fact that Rubio, who was supposed to be polling 12% lower than Trump, ended up within 1% in the polling. To me (and most people) that's the most important thing. It kind of shows that Trump doesn't have quite the organization among his constituents that would result in matching poll numbers, while a lot of conservatives will rally around Rubio, maybe even just to beat Trump more so than support Rubio.

I'm calling it now, Rubio v Clinton in November, with record breaking showing for Republicans and an average showing for Democrats leading to a Rubio win.

[poido123]

Thing is though, the bad news for Trump isn't that Cruz beat him. Cruz winning evangelical areas leading to a victory for the state isn't bad news for Trump, because Cruz (seemingly) has no strong chance to beat Trump in a lot of the upcoming states.

The terrible news for Trump is the fact that Rubio, who was supposed to be polling 12% lower than Trump, ended up within 1% in the polling. To me (and most people) that's the most important thing. It kind of shows that Trump doesn't have quite the organization among his constituents that would result in matching poll numbers, while a lot of conservatives will rally around Rubio, maybe even just to beat Trump more so than support Rubio.

I'm calling it now, Rubio v Clinton in November, with record breaking showing for Republicans and an average showing for Democrats leading to a Rubio win.



TBH, I think America will be a better place with Rubio, Trump or Cruz running the show.


From the speeches I've heard and the information being discussed, they are on the right track.


Clinton will make America worse. Please americans, do not vote her.

[Jameerthefear]

Thing is though, the bad news for Trump isn't that Cruz beat him. Cruz winning evangelical areas leading to a victory for the state isn't bad news for Trump, because Cruz (seemingly) has no strong chance to beat Trump in a lot of the upcoming states.

The terrible news for Trump is the fact that Rubio, who was supposed to be polling 12% lower than Trump, ended up within 1% in the polling. To me (and most people) that's the most important thing. It kind of shows that Trump doesn't have quite the organization among his constituents that would result in matching poll numbers, while a lot of conservatives will rally around Rubio, maybe even just to beat Trump more so than support Rubio.

I'm calling it now, Rubio v Clinton in November, with record breaking showing for Republicans and an average showing for Democrats leading to a Rubio win.
u just replied to a copypasta

[Dave3]

TBH, I think America will be a better place with Rubio, Trump or Cruz running the show.


From the speeches I've heard and the information being discussed, they are on the right track.


Clinton will make America worse. Please americans, do not vote her.
I'm interested in why you think so.

Economically some of their ideas range from "alright" to horrible. Cruz for example proposes a 10% flat tax rate. He wants to take a progressive taxation structure that is at 39.6% for income over 413k down to 10%. That would bring in <1.5 trillion in from taxes, as opposed to the >3 trillion that is brought in now. A 1.5 trillion loss per year would run up the deficit pretty fast right? The math for that just doesn't work out.

With Rubio and Trump, their tax plans are still progressive, Rubio's tax plan would cut taxes a bit on every income bracket, except those making 0-9k a year, and those making 37k-75k. He ends up cutting the top tax bracket by 5% which is pretty signifcant, but not quite as radical as Cruz. That structure wouldn't bankrupt the country, but it would require aggressive cutting down on spending on a ton of social services. But then Rubio says he wants to build up the military (the one that already spends more than the next 10 countries combined and even McCain (the "warhawk") criticized for spending money without accountability to the citizens.

Trump proposes a 0, 10, 20, and 25% brackets. Again, that would require gutting a lot of services, and I doubt he's going to gut as much as needed, which would again, start building up the defecit as opposed to pay it off (which BTW, has been going down from 1.4 trillion to 250 billion since 2009).

And you have a lot of posturing too like - repeal Obamacare, defund PP, etc. Repealing Obamacare I would actually be happy to see, but only if it's replaced with a plan that covers more people at lower costs, which so far hasn't been proposed.

Defunding PP makes absolutely no sense if it's because of your anti abortion stance. Planned parenthood services are about 97% women's health (medical check ups, cancer screening, birth control, etc.) and 3% abortive procedures. Thing is though, governmental funding is only legally allowed to support the former. Government funds don't actually pay for a single abortion, so defunding something that doesn't even use the funds for the things you hate doesn't actually help anyone.

I'm curious why someone who lives in Australia and benefits from better social services is critical of paying for them. Have you paid for healthcare at all in your life? As a Canadian, I have paid for my healthcare once in my life, and that was for an evaluation that had nothing to do with primary care. Why wouldn't you want that for other people too? You don't like the system you currently have? I know in Canada for example, a HUGE criticism is the waiting time. If you tear a ligament in your knee, your MRI isn't coming for at least another 6 months, and the surgery won't be for another few months after that. Does your system have the same problems or does it run fine?

[rufuspaul]

Listening to NPR this morning was typical. They briefly mentioned that Cruz won and Rubio had a good showing. Then all the sound bites and commentary were about Trump and Clinton with no mention of Bernie Sanders whatsoever. Their agenda is clear.

[Take Your Lumps]

I'm sorry, but did Trump already lose? Oh, that's right. The primary isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only Iowa. Does not having the lead in corn holing central count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the caucus is still on? Trump is still campaigning right now and they have been the top of the polls for how many months now? He's campaigning against one of the worst senators in the Senate who just happen to have a lead because he conned a bunch of Jesus freaks. But you know what? They still ****ing suck. Trump is one of the best ****ing businessmen in the nation, he rocked the polls last year and would of won the last debate if Megyn Kelly didn't mediate. Maybe you should shut the **** up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Trump wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Cruz just dropped a point. Are you a ****ing drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a ****ing idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm ****ing serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Trump topics because you're a ****ing hater who doesn't like the Trump because hes good. **** you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these ****ing people on the board, like I give a ****. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your ****ing life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. **** you. You are nothing.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rwro8doozUw/T755eP-AslI/AAAAAAAABPU/nCWLy9hg7Dg/s1600/triple-h-angry.gif

[highwhey]

Listening to NPR this morning was typical. They briefly mentioned that Cruz won and Rubio had a good showing. Then all the sound bites and commentary were about Trump and Clinton with no mention of Bernie Sanders whatsoever. Their agenda is clear.
Yes, npr is as liberal as it gets. Still 100x better than listening to fox news or other major right wing media.


What have the candidates proposed for healthcare? We all know obamacare is hot garbage and is simply a name, rather than a proper reform.

[Patrick Chewing]

Listening to NPR this morning was typical. They briefly mentioned that Cruz won and Rubio had a good showing. Then all the sound bites and commentary were about Trump and Clinton with no mention of Bernie Sanders whatsoever. Their agenda is clear.


Man I caught MSNBC at the right time last night for just a few seconds. They had Brian Williams and Rachel Maddow on and both of them were kind of in shock at the Hillary camp when the camp had called it for Hillary with only like 80% reporting. :lol

[TheMan]

Yes, npr is as liberal as it gets. Still 100x better than listening to fox news or other major right wing media.


What have the candidates proposed for healthcare? We all know obamacare is hot garbage and is simply a name, rather than a proper reform.
This doesn't make sense.

If NPR was as liberal as it gets, wouldn't they be biased towards the most liberal senator in congress, Bernie Sanders? Dude wrote that they made no mention of Sanders, who everyone has to admit, coming in tied in Iowa is a win for him :confusedshrug:

[navy]

I'm sorry, but did Trump already lose? Oh, that's right. The primary isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only Iowa. Does not having the lead in corn holing central count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the caucus is still on? Trump is still campaigning right now and they have been the top of the polls for how many months now? He's campaigning against one of the worst senators in the Senate who just happen to have a lead because he conned a bunch of Jesus freaks. But you know what? They still ****ing suck. Trump is one of the best ****ing businessmen in the nation, he rocked the polls last year and would of won the last debate if Megyn Kelly didn't mediate. Maybe you should shut the **** up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Trump wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Cruz just dropped a point. Are you a ****ing drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a ****ing idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm ****ing serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Trump topics because you're a ****ing hater who doesn't like the Trump because hes good. **** you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these ****ing people on the board, like I give a ****. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your ****ing life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. **** you. You are nothing.
:biggums:

[UK2K]

Looks like Clinton's camp is being looked at for voter fraud in two precincts.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4578575/clinton-voter-fraud-polk-county-iowa-caucus


A quick explanation of what you're watching (voter fraud):

The important problem is that the Bernie counters recounted everyone, while the Hillary counter was literally recorded telling someone else that she only added newcomers to the count she had before, and then when asked if she recounted everyone, she lied to the organizer and said "Yes". This means that if anyone left the caucus site who was supporting Bernie, then they were removed by Bernie's recounters, but any Hillary supporter who left the caucus site was treated as though they were still there for the purposes of the recount. Thus, artificial inflation of her numbers occurred unless everyone who left was a Bernie delegate, on top of the Hillary campaign surrogate lying to an election official to cover up her (negligent at best, malicious at worst) mistake.

And they left the recount up to a Yea Nay vote, which is just ridiculous.
Imagine how many other precincts used similar tactics. The fact that even C-SPAN calls it outright voter fraud should leave Americans with no illusions: The Democratic nominee has already been chosen.

[Take Your Lumps]

This doesn't make sense.

If NPR was as liberal as it gets, wouldn't they be biased towards the most liberal senator in congress, Bernie Sanders? Dude wrote that they made no mention of Sanders, who everyone has to admit, coming in tied in Iowa is a win for him :confusedshrug:

Liberal =! progressive

Most media outlets, including NPR, are in the bag for Clinton. The fact that he's not a registered democrat also pits many "liberal democrats" in the corporate media against his candidacy.

[Terahite]

I'm sorry, but did Trump already lose? Oh, that's right. The primary isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only Iowa. Does not having the lead in corn holing central count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the caucus is still on? Trump is still campaigning right now and they have been the top of the polls for how many months now? He's campaigning against one of the worst senators in the Senate who just happen to have a lead because he conned a bunch of Jesus freaks. But you know what? They still ****ing suck. Trump is one of the best ****ing businessmen in the nation, he rocked the polls last year and would of won the last debate if Megyn Kelly didn't mediate. Maybe you should shut the **** up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Trump wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Cruz just dropped a point. Are you a ****ing drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a ****ing idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm ****ing serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Trump topics because you're a ****ing hater who doesn't like the Trump because hes good. **** you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these ****ing people on the board, like I give a ****. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your ****ing life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. **** you. You are nothing.

http://mtv.mtvnimages.com/uri/mgid:file:http:shared:mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/tumblr_nmwyrtckFG1rvwsfxo2_500-1429215207.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

Looks like Clinton's camp is being looked at for voter fraud in two precincts.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4578575/clinton-voter-fraud-polk-county-iowa-caucus


The Clintons and their ilk are such dirty people. Soulless blowhards who think they are above the law and are made of Teflon.

[Terahite]

No, but I'd imagine they spent the majority of their coverage talking about Dylan Roof, the crusades, the Iraq war and slavery.

:roll:

Young Turks is like textbook libtardism. Never an original thought to be found. :oldlol:

[Derka]

Liberal =! progressive

Most media outlets, including NPR, are in the bag for Clinton. The fact that he's not a registered democrat also pits many "liberal democrats" in the corporate media against his candidacy.
Doesn't help him that despite his democratic socialist campaign rhetoric, Bernie has a history of reaching across the aisle to get stuff done.

Presently, our (corporate owned) media is making tons of hay (money) out of running story after story of elected officials on the left and right entrenching themselves and prohibiting actual governance in favor of holding to the extreme principles. The national drama keeps people screaming at each other on Facebook and comments sections nationwide. Hillary keeps that drama rolling uninterrupted.

[navy]

538 >>>

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-comes-out-of-iowa-looking-like-pat-buchanan/

You can claim they are biased if you want, but they are the only ones with actual good use of numbers.

[FillJackson]

Looks like Clinton's camp is being looked at for voter fraud in two precincts.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4578575/clinton-voter-fraud-polk-county-iowa-caucus
You don't link to where your quoted text is from, but this part is mistaken.


The fact that even C-SPAN calls it outright voter fraud should leave Americans with no illusions: The Democratic nominee has already been chosen.

C-Span is not calling it anything. That is a video clip put up by a C-Span viewer. It's just like posted on ISH or YouTube or Red State. I was confused by that at first too because I didn't know that C-Span had this feature. It lets you create mini clips from C-Span footage. So here is the person who called it voter fraud.
CREATED BY AN ANONYMOUS USER
ON FEBRUARY 1, 2016

If you scroll to the bottom of your C-Span link you see other folks uploaded the same clip with different titles.

Clinton voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa Caucus

IA Caucus Precinct 43 Irregular Vote Counting


bad call - improper vote call

Clinton Captain Counting Controversy Part 1

So American can have its illusions back.

[UK2K]

You don't link to where your quoted text is from, but this part is mistaken.



C-Span is not calling it anything. That is a video clip put up by a C-Span viewer. It's just like posted on ISH or YouTube or Red State. I was confused by that at first too because I didn't know you created mini clips from C-Span footage. The person calling it that is an anonymous user
CREATED BY AN ANONYMOUS USER
ON FEBRUARY 1, 2016

If you scroll to the bottom of your C-Span link you see other folks uploaded the same clip with different titles.

Clinton voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa Caucus

IA Caucus Precinct 43 Irregular Vote Counting


bad call - improper vote call

Clinton Captain Counting Controversy Part 1

So American can have its illusions back.

http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/85864001-clinton-caucus-caught-on-camera-committing-voter-fraud-in-iowa

Reddit user cosmicjesus3 explains:

So basically in the caucus they have to hand count everyone depending on what side they're sitting on. Well when it came time to do the second count the numbers were off. The first vote breakdown was like this
FIRST VOTE: 215 Sanders 210 Clinton 26 O'Malley 8 Undecided 459 TOTAL
And this is the SECOND Vote: 232 Clinton 224 Sanders 456 Total
So somehow they lost 3 people but Clinton's vote went up by 14.
So basically what had happened was Hillary's team didn't take the time to do a full recount instead she just added the new people who joined the second vote. Which clearly wasn't an accurate count.

http://www.examiner.com/article/hillary-clinton-campaign-accused-of-voter-fraud-polk-county-iowa

The video shows Clinton caucus chair Drew Gentsch and precinct captain Liz Buck allegedly not conducting an "actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus." The location in question was prescient #43 in Des Moines, IA, as the caucus event was held at Roosevelt High School, as the video was broadcasted live on C-SPAN2.

The final delegate count finished with Clinton receiving five and Sanders pulling in four. Multiple rounds of voting took place, as the head count changed from round to round, which raised questions from those in attendance. On Reddit, the incident was explained in further detail.

"It was assumed by the chair, Drew Gentsch, that the voter difference was due to a few people that left the building before the second round began. The question is whether there were really 456 total people present for the second round of voting. That was not clear, as Clinton's team did not perform a recount of ALL of the Hillary supporters during the second round of voting."

[Trollsmasher]

so Cruz campaign was apparently spreading bullshit about Carson dropping out before the caucuses started?

I hope Ben drops BBC on that Cuban-Canadian ass

[FillJackson]

You can see the whole C-Span clip here.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?403824-1/iowa-democratic-caucus-meeting


By the way, the clip that called it Fraud is getting like 1,000 times more views. Clickbait headlines work.

[UK2K]

so Cruz campaign was apparently spreading bullshit about Carson dropping out before the caucuses started?

I hope Ben drops BBC on that Cuban-Canadian ass
I saw Carsons campaign manager saying something about it.

If Carson drops out, Cruz gets his voters.

[Dresta]

:roll:

Young Turks is like textbook libtardism. Never an original thought to be found. :oldlol:
Those guys are downright embarrassing. Like the Glenn Beck show for liberal fanatics.

[UK2K]

You can see the whole C-Span clip here.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?403824-1/iowa-democratic-caucus-meeting


By the way, the clip that called it Fraud is getting like 1,000 times more views. Clickbait headlines work.
The chick who is supposed to count lies on camera about how she counted.

That's what it all comes down to.

[FillJackson]

http://www.conservativeoutfitters.co...-fraud-in-iowa
Quote:
Reddit user cosmicjesus3 explains:

So basically in the caucus they have to hand count everyone depending on what side they're sitting on. Well when it came time to do the second count the numbers were off. The first vote breakdown was like this
FIRST VOTE: 215 Sanders 210 Clinton 26 O'Malley 8 Undecided 459 TOTAL
And this is the SECOND Vote: 232 Clinton 224 Sanders 456 Total
So somehow they lost 3 people but Clinton's vote went up by 14.
So basically what had happened was Hillary's team didn't take the time to do a full recount instead she just added the new people who joined the second vote. Which clearly wasn't an accurate count.

http://www.examiner.com/article/hill...lk-county-iowa
Quote:
The video shows Clinton caucus chair Drew Gentsch and precinct captain Liz Buck allegedly not conducting an "actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus." The location in question was prescient #43 in Des Moines, IA, as the caucus event was held at Roosevelt High School, as the video was broadcasted live on C-SPAN2.

The final delegate count finished with Clinton receiving five and Sanders pulling in four. Multiple rounds of voting took place, as the head count changed from round to round, which raised questions from those in attendance. On Reddit, the incident was explained in further detail.

"It was assumed by the chair, Drew Gentsch, that the voter difference was due to a few people that left the building before the second round began. The question is whether there were really 456 total people present for the second round of voting. That was not clear, as Clinton's team did not perform a recount of ALL of the Hillary supporters during the second round of voting."
This is incorrect.
The video shows Clinton caucus chair Drew Gentsch

The C-Span identifies who the Clinton and Sanders folks are. Gentsch is with the party, not a campaign
Carol Baty, Surrogate, Sanders Presidential Campaign
Elisabeth Buck, Surrogate Clinton (Hillary) Presidential Campaign
Drew Gentsch Temporary Caucus Chair Democratic Party of Iowa->Des Moines Precinct 43

FIRST VOTE: 215 Sanders 210 Clinton 26 O'Malley 8 Undecided 459 TOTAL
And this is the SECOND Vote: 232 Clinton 224 Sanders 456 Total
So somehow they lost 3 people but Clinton's vote went up by 14.
Welcome to Iowa. That's how caucuses work, people can change their votes between rounds. You're allowed to persuade fellow voters to switch. So just knowing that totals changed you can't tell if anything is amiss.

This is whole thing is written weird, why is surprising that Clinton's vote went up by 14. Bernies vote also went up. You could just as easily write this
So somehow they lost 3 people but Bernie's vote went up by 9.

Unless there is something I'm missing this person, doesn't know how the Iowa Caucuses work. Or perhaps the evidence he is citing is irrelevant to the charge of not doing a proper count.
Because the math works out pretty easily for the second count if 3 people total left.


If you look at 1:52 of full video, you'll see that this issue was known last night and a recount was voted down. So the head of the Sanders campaign knew about this last night and and signed off on the vote count. It doesn't look all that controversial. Clinton won up with 5 delegates and Sanders 4.

[Take Your Lumps]

The democratic race is shaping up to be pretty interesting. Both candidates have some glaring weaknesses in their support demographics.

Bernie with minorities, and Hillary with young voters. Sanders got 85% of the under-30 vote and 65% of the under-40 vote in Iowa :eek:

I think the longer this race goes on the trickier it gets for Hillary. It's easier for Bernie to convert minorities with a clear-cut message than it is for Hillary to convince young people with just her resum

[Bobcats2013]

once the spanish media stops talkin bout el chapo, bernie will convert them watch

if bernie gets the nom it just shows the internet community is taking over bruh

[Take Your Lumps]

once the spanish media stops talkin bout el chapo, bernie will convert them watch

if bernie gets the nom it just shows the internet community is taking over bruh

He'll likely lose SC but I think he'll surprise people by winning Nevada first. He's been getting some latino endorsements out there and that state seems like a decent fit for him. I'm waiting for really good odds to put a few bucks down on that...I think he's got a decent shot there. NH is a formality for him, obviously.

[DonDadda59]

[QUOTE=Take Your Lumps]The democratic race is shaping up to be pretty interesting. Both candidates have some glaring weaknesses in their support demographics.

Bernie with minorities, and Hillary with young voters. Sanders got 85% of the under-30 vote and 65% of the under-40 vote in Iowa :eek:

I think the longer this race goes on the trickier it gets for Hillary. It's easier for Bernie to convert minorities with a clear-cut message than it is for Hillary to convince young people with just her resum

[niko]

When push came to shove, Trump got less support. SHOCKING.

[Take Your Lumps]

Trump with the passive-aggressive Twitter meltdown today...not a good look.

https://i.imgur.com/b5G6359.png

[DonDadda59]

When push came to shove, Trump got less support. SHOCKING.

All his supporters said that all it would take for him to get a W was people showing up, especially new voters. That happened (record turnout), and they chose Ted Cruz, with Rubio seeing a massive surge. CNN show a graph of voters who were still undecided within a week of the Caucus and only 14% voted for Trump. Rubio got 30% and Cruz 25% of that group.

Now that the ISIS hysteria has predictably calmed down, people are starting to see how empty of a candidate and how not serious the Donald really is.


Trump with the passive-aggressive Twitter meltdown today...not a good look.


Predictable.

[NumberSix]

When push came to shove, Trump got less support. SHOCKING.
Until last night, the record for most votes in the republican caucus was 42k. Donald trump got 45.5k. Ted Cruz is the only republican in the history of the Iowa caucus to get more votes than Donald Trump.

[navy]

Until last night, the record for most votes in the republican caucus was 42k. Donald trump got 45.5k. Ted Cruz is the only republican in the history of the Iowa caucus to get more votes than Donald Trump.
Ignoring the fact that the Iowa Caucus means nothing,

This is such a blatant misrepresentation of statistics. Is the total population not higher than it's ever been and on a continual rise?

[UK2K]

All his supporters said that all it would take for him to get a W was people showing up, especially new voters. That happened (record turnout), and they chose Ted Cruz, with Rubio seeing a massive surge. CNN show a graph of voters who were still undecided within a week of the Caucus and only 14% voted for Trump. Rubio got 30% and Cruz 25% of that group.

Now that the ISIS hysteria has predictably calmed down, people are starting to see how empty of a candidate and how not serious the Donald really is.

Predictable.

Honestly, I think that's a lie.

Then again, I haven't met one person who willingly admits to wanting to vote for Clinton yet, she got 50% of the vote, so I guess anything is possible.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why the hell would Bernie get the Latino vote when there are TWO fu*king Latinos running in the Republican Party??

[Lakers Legend#32]

No way Hillary can spin this as a win.
#FeelTheBurn

[NumberSix]

Ignoring the fact that the Iowa Caucus means nothing,

This is such a blatant misrepresentation of statistics.
Is it?

Is the total population not higher than it's ever been and on a continual rise?
You tell me. You seem to be so sure that it's a blatant misrepresentation of statistics.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Trump with the passive-aggressive Twitter meltdown today...not a good look.

https://i.imgur.com/b5G6359.png

Funny that Trump blames the Media. Trump's entire campaign has been with the Media. They cover his every move. They cover his every tweet or utterance. They cover events where he's not even there with the headline "Where's Trump". They cover unrelated events with, "What would Trump Say/Do? He has no ground game or canvassers in place, in any states. There aren't even Trump headquarters in most states. His whole campaign is focused on large media events where he puts the Media in predetermined cages and ejects them if they don't sit still. Every other candidate has spent millions tring to get a fraction of Media attention that Trump gets and when he loses, he blames the media.
Without the Media, Trump would have no campaign.

[NumberSix]

Funny that Trump blames the Media. Trump's entire campaign has been with the Media. They cover his every move. They cover his every tweet or utterance. They cover events where he's not even there with the headline "Where's Trump". They cover unrelated events with, "What would Trump Say/Do? He has no ground game or canvassers in place, in any states. There aren't even Trump headquarters in most states. His whole campaign is focused on large media events where he puts the Media in predetermined cages and ejects them if they don't sit still. Every other candidate has spent millions tring to get a fraction of Media attention that Trump gets and when he loses, he blames the media.
Without the Media, Trump would have no campaign.
This.

If this guy is actually serious about winning, he better start spending some money and put an actual ground operation together. You can't win just by attention whoring.

[poido123]

Let's be honest.


Unless Trump loses New Hampshire, then things are very much open wide.


According to experts, Trump wasn't meant to win Iowa, so Phantomcreep and the other libtard Dondadda can sit the f.ck down.


On the other side, same goes. Bernie is looking to poll better as it moves to New Hampshire.

[bladefd]

Why the hell would Bernie get the Latino vote when there are TWO fu*king Latinos running in the Republican Party??

Because not everyone votes based on nationality?

[FillJackson]

Honestly, I think that's a lie.
Why is a lie? As opposed to being just false?

I also don't think it's false. Rubio has not been polling above 20% and then shot to 24% in the caucus, that does appear to the be a rush of late support.


Then again, I haven't met one person who willingly admits to wanting to vote for Clinton yet, she got 50% of the vote, so I guess anything is possible.
That really doesn't indicate anything. I have yet to meet a Ted Cruz voter.

As to this from earlier.

The chick who is supposed to count lies on camera about how she counted.

That's what it all comes down to.Someone on Reddit points out that if this is voter fraud the lead Sanders Representative is in on it, because she is right there the whole time. She's wearing a light blue POLITICAL REVOLUTION shirt. At 3 minutes in she explains what's up to the 3 young kids who made the complaint.

[Trollsmasher]

Trump certainly could have won if he spent some fvcking money.

WaPo says he spent 300 bucks per voter while Cruz spent 700.

Too bad he is such a cheap ass. Could've sold some Picasso he has in that penthouse in Trump Tower and finance his whole campaign.

Now he could use some fvckery in NH. The threshold for delegates there is 10% and everyone but him is hovering around that number there. Rubio needs to be kept under it.

[NumberSix]

Expect Trump to do/say something crazy in the next few days that will suck up all the media before the NH primary.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump certainly could have won if he spent some fvcking money.

WaPo says he spent 300 bucks per voter while Cruz spent 700.

Too bad he is such a cheap ass. Could've sold some Picasso he has in that penthouse in Trump Tower and finance his whole campaign.

Now he could use some fvckery in NH. The threshold for delegates there is 10% and everyone but him is hovering around that number there. Rubio needs to be kept under it.


I don't think Trump wants to be President. I think he's just there to get all the troops in line, then he'll back out and whoever he endorses will be the next President. If that's not the case and he really wants it, he's in serious danger of losing New Hampshire to Rubio.

[Take Your Lumps]

Sanders got 85% of the under-30 vote and 65% of the under-40 vote in Iowa


:wtf:

Such a bizarre race. On one side you have a bad Mussolini impersonator and a guy whose greatest political accomplishment was reading 'The Cat in the Hat' on the Senate floor leading the pack. On the other you have a 74 year old socialist atheist ('culturally Jewish') being treated by young people like he's the second coming of Kurt Cobain.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/694615444209139712


surprising from Iowa Dem vote:

Among women under age 30:
Sanders 84%, Clinton 14%

Women age 30-44:
Sanders 53%, Clinton 42%

Women 30-44 was pretty shocking to me.

[NumberSix]

I don't think Trump wants to be President. I think he's just there to get all the troops in line, then he'll back out and whoever he endorses will be the next President. If that's not the case and he really wants it, he's in serious danger of losing New Hampshire to Rubio.
I can't see that. I'd bet Trump will win NH by double digits. The NH primary is a completely different game from the Iowa caucus. Things might get tight in South Carolina, but Trump will probably win NH and Nevada pretty easily.