2016- Yet another long off-season

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http://saltcityhoops.com/why-this-offseason-rocks-a-recent-history-lesson/

[QUOTE]When the Jazz ended up with skinny Gordon Hayward out of Butler, many booed the pick by Kevin O

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/22/utah-jazz-sign-second-round-pick-marcus-paige/

[QUOTE]The team is likely signing him for training camp, after which he

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[QUOTE]The Cavaliers guaranteed $1 million to No. 54 pick Kay Felder, and No. 52 pick Joel Bolomboy

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/24/jazz-best-bench-nba/


The ability and efficiency of four Jazz starters last season could never be questioned.

Sure it could. Not sure I'd put Hood above Mack or Neto. There's a lot more to the game than scoring. :rolleyes:


Although, one hole that made life difficult for Utah was finding consistent production from the point guard spot. The two point guards that played regularly were Raul Neto and Shelvin Mack.

Neto and Mack were two of their best players.


That won’t be the case this season as both Neto and Mack will likely have their minutes restricted with Exum and Hill on board.

We'll see. Hard for me to see their best playmaker(maybe their two best?) not playing.


Not only will this improve the starting five, but it should also play a role in giving the Jazz one of the strongest benches in the league after struggling with a lack of depth last season.

Not convinced Hill starting instead of Mack makes them better. Hill starting over Hood I see being better.


Although, unlike many, I find it very hard to see Hill keeping that starting role when Exum returns to full health.

Exum is supposed to be 100% now. I find it very hard to see a one dimensional player who maybe can't even do that after his injury even being on the floor.


Even if Hill fits to a tee the way that Jazz coach Quin Snyder runs things in Utah, it’s hard to imagine him staying for years to come, given the terms of his contract. This is where Exum can establish himself as the ‘point guard of the future’ in Utah.

I don't think they give up a lottery pick if they didn't plan on Hill being around for a few years. Exum has shown very little actual pg skills. Where do people get this stuff anyway? He was drafted high. He played some D. Other than that what has he shown anyone that they would keep saying shit like this? :facepalm


Burks isn’t really a free agent acquisition, but his return will surely have the impact of one.

Burks was a premiere candidate for Sixth Man of the Year before a broken leg kept him out for the majority of last season. He is the very definition of a spark plug with how he can score in flurries and keep defenses on their toes. His job coming off the bench next season will be to provide a scoring punch and an injection of energy for Jazz players and fans.

I really think his days might be numbered. Lindsey didn't draft him. He doesn't really fit on either end of the court.


It will be a big adjustment for Johnson to come off the bench next season, after he started in each of the last 997 games he played over the course of 12 years, but the veteran looks ready to transition into a new role.
I think he could start


In looking at the frontcourt, it’s no secret that Diaw will be playing limited minutes behind Favors, Lyles and Rudy Gobert.

Not sure Lyles plays more than Diaw really. Lyles had some nice moments last year but he's still got a lot to prove. As far as I can tell players will actually have to earn minutes this year. They won't be given anymore.


Meanwhile, Lyles is just an incredible talent to have coming off the bench. It’s almost unfair to have a possible future All-Star in reserve behind Favors and Gobert, but that’s just what the Jazz have.

Yeah it's unfair to have a guy who was wildly inconsistent on the bench. :wtf:



Lyles’ summer league performance was something to see. I know what your thinking–it was only the summer league. Nevertheless, the way he ran the show on both ends of the floor was very promising.

Both ends? He scored a lot. Shot well. Didn't do much else.


The big question with Lyles heading into his second season will be his defense; he’s slightly undersized for a power forward and shies away from contact on occasion.

He's hardly undersized. :no:


However, when Lyles fills out and becomes a better interior defender, he could eventually become a threat to Favors’ starting role.
Looks to me like he needs to get in a lot better shape. He's plenty big. After Exum I think the biggest thing to watch is how Gobert/Favors compares to Gobert/Lyles. If the latter becomes comparable to the former Favors is gone.


Lyles (a premiere bench player that could soon become a starter).

He should have been in the D-league last year and now he's a premier bench player? What do we base this on? Summer league? :coleman:


The Golden State Warriors are the only team that really pose a threat to Utah’s bench. Even so, I give the Jazz a slight edge because the Warriors don’t have one big man who can come in and be a gamechanger.

My bench is even better!

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/24/deep-dives-rodney-hood/


Utah Jazz wing Rodney Hood has quickly become one of the better shooting guards in the NBA. How good can he be next season?

Is he even the best on his own team? I see his numbers going down. Hopefully efficiency goes up. I think he could be traded too if he doesn't like the new bench role I predict or he doesn't show he can do something other than score. Too much talent on the team.

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz rebuild has been rightfully praised for many reasons

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Alexander Chernykh: President Kirilenko was reelected for new 4-year term today at Russian basketball federation

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http://www.slamonline.com/nba/derrick-favors-great-expectations/#GWOij7HHg7ZJ3jkV.97With talented youngins Trey Lyles and


Chris Johnson teaming up with Gordon Hayward, Rudy Gobert and Rodney Hood, the squad is loaded with talent.

CJ? :wtf:


The man holding it all together is soon-to-be seventh-year pro Derrick Favors.

:facepalm

[QUOTE]I think every guy on the team is out there working hard to improve their game so we can reach that goal this year.

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http://saltcityhoops.com/league-players-union-should-fix-counterproductive-draft-rights-rules/

[QUOTE]the Jazz

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/243189/Warriors-Spurs-Cavs-Celtics-Raptors-Lead-ESPNs-RPM-Projected-Wins

Jazz ahead of the Clipps! 47 wins would suck though

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[QUOTE]The Philadelphia 76ers announced today that the team has acquired center Tibor Pleiss, two 2017 second-round draft picks and cash considerations from the Utah Jazz in exchange for Kendall Marshall. The Sixers will receive the most and least favorable of the four 2017 second-round picks currently held by Utah (their own, in addition to those of Detroit, Golden State and New York).

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865661065/Report-Jazz-acquire-guard-Kendall-Marshall-from-Sixers-for-Tibor-Pleiss-picks.html

Makes a bit more sense. Marshall's contract wasn't guaranteed until today. Pleiss had another 500,000 at least due next year. Thus the cash. With only 4 picks next year and hopefully stashed Wallace they potentially have 5 guys going for at most a couple of spots next year.

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http://www.si.com/nba/2016/08/25/thunder-russell-westbrook-northwest-division-grades


Netting George Hill for a late lottery pick addressed the Jazz's biggest need at the point, and takes pressure off the recovering Dante Exum.

Neto and Mack were two o their best players. :facepalm


Boris Diaw was hobbled down the stretch last season, and getting him for essentially nothing should pay off if Utah can keep him motivated and full of espresso.

We'll see if it's nothing. Hanlan looked good. The fact that the Spurs wanted him says a lot.

[QUOTE]Johnson faded down the stretch for the Heat in the playoffs, with his three-point shooting particularly vanishing in the second round. Will JJ stay consistent

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4282390-155/utah-jazz-trade-tibor-pleiss-to


All told, the move puts Utah at $12 million under the cap, which is enough to make another move if it chooses, such as renegotiating the contract of Derrick Favors in order to get to the cap floor.

10 mill under was enough to make a move too no? they have to be under the cap to renegotaiate? Maybe for Hill?


Bolomboy, an athletic power forward out of Weber State, has impressed the Jazz with his work ethic, demeanor and play during summer league and is now expected to make the opening night roster

He already made it. They aren't giving him all that money to cut him. He's their 5th big and could possibly move up to 3rd or even 2nd when Favors goes.


Utah envisions Bolomboy replacing some of the energy and athleticism the team lost when Trevor Booker left for the Brooklyn Nets in free agency this summer

I see him as the local draw at Stars games to start. If there is an injury he will play ahead of Withey.


center Jeff Withey and guard Chris Johnson battling it out for the last remaining roster spot

Got to carry a vet big. Joel is a prospect and is too thin. thanks CJ :applause:


Withey's production last season was unexpected on some levels by the organization.

sure it was as was Pleiss being so slow


Should he make the team, the remainder of his contract would be guaranteed in January. But there is little doubt that his shot-blocking and defense last season were welcomed by the Jazz

there's plenty of doubt. They missed the playoffs because they didn't play him. :facepalm

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/26/utah-jazz-derrick-favors-working-mehmet-okur/

Might want to work with Rudy too :confusedshrug:

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/26/utah-jazz-trade-tibor-pleiss-philadelphia-76ers/


More than anything, the trade was made to make room on the Jazz roster for Bolomboy

It was made because Pleiss had to go because he isn't good enough. Joel already made the team. Plies and/or Withey were gone already.


It also provides extra cap space that could come into play as the Jazz look to extend Derrick Favors and/or George Hill

doesn't sound like it makes much sense for either to do so. They got something else going on

[QUOTE]In what was a somewhat surprising move at the time, the team signed Bolomboy to a fairly significant contract for a second-round pick last week. Basketball Insiders

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/25/utah-jazz-four-players-that-have-to-break-out-in-16-17/2/

[QUOTE]Hood carried an enormous load last season particularly in the absence of Alec Burks and was arguably the Jazz

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/25/utah-jazz-making-significant-investment-in-joel-bolomboy/

[QUOTE]Dan Feldman of NBC Sports has noted that Bolomboy

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2016/8/27/12672340/utah-jazz-enes-kanter-tibor-pleiss-kendall-marshall-76ers-trade

[QUOTE]They have found Gobert, Hood, Lyles, Exum, and Neto with almost surgical precision. Sooner or later it isn

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2016/8/27/12679810/nba-trade-2017-utah-jazz-cap-space-update-tibor-pleiss-derrick-favors-kendall-marshall-76ers

[QUOTE]he Utah Jazz were basically led towards having to get rid of Tibor Pleiss. Not because he

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http://www.denverstiffs.com/2016/8/22/12448582/ranking-all-30-starting-small-forwards-in-the-nba


He's the face of their franchise and has been for a long time.

Rudy is as far as I'm concerned but I would take Maxi G over Carmelo.

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17385953/ranking-contracted-nba-players-australia-new-zealand

Only guy on the list I can see putting Exum ahead of is Maker and even he we saw in the summer and have a clue about. When is the guy going to have to earn something? :confusedshrug:

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http://saltcityhoops.com/could-pleiss-deal-clear-the-way-for-extensions/

[QUOTE]More specifically, the $9.3M they had available before making this deal would have been plenty to do a meaningful

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/29/utah-jazz-deep-dives-trey-lyles/

[QUOTE]Trey Lyles

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/29/utah-jazz-fans-worry-goberts-olympic-performance/

[QUOTE]for the tournament, Gobert averaged 5.7 points, 7.2 rebounds and 1.8 blocks per game while shooting 45 percent from the floor and 56 percent from the line. All things considered, it

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/28/top-five-centers-utah-jazz-history/


In fact, most Jazz fans would probably tell you that the only reason the team missed the playoffs was because of key injuries to their big men.

except this one

[QUOTE]Gobert

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[QUOTE]David

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[QUOTE]Tom Moore: #NBA source: #Sixers

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[QUOTE]The Philadelphia 76ers announced today the team has waived forward Carl Landry and center Tibor Pleiss.

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[QUOTE]According to sources near the player, even if he is waived, Pleiss will be fully paid for next season ($2,8 m.) and he is not eager to sign with a European team. At this point after all only Barcelona and Maccabi Tel Aviv have front line oppenings, but also an almost complete roster.

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https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2016/08/30/paltry-offseason-odds-and-ends-2/


Dennis Lindsey on trading Tibor Pleiss: This is not a typical deal that the casual fan would understand. The purpose behind the deal this morning was salary cap management, roster management. We decided we wanted to increase our flexibility on the short term and maximize our salary cap space. (1280)

Not to hard to understand but thanks big guy!

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http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/243214/2016-NBA-Offseason-Review-Northwest-Division


Hill should step in and immediately stabilize the point guard position.

the 2 guard


If Exum can handle the backup spot by the Trade Deadline, the Jazz can then trade away Neto or Mack to fill another hole.

I can see all of them playing. Burks than Hood seem more likely as far as trades

[QUOTE]At shooting guard, Hood has taken hold of the position and isn

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/hype-extinguisher-5-nba-teams-that-could-fail-in-the-face-of-expectations/


They have no injury concerns.

after last year I'd say they might


Gobert has to hit an exceptionally high bar for defensive performance night in and night out. The rest of the Jazz defenders are good, but the whole team balance tilts if Gobert isn't playing at top level.

It certainly has the past couple years. Hopefully they have enough depth to withstand even Rudy going down for a while. If Withey plays than maybe. Last year he only played when Rudy and Favors were out which was only a few games I think.


This is also the first time this core is playing with pressure, and that's a tough spot for what is still a very young team.

2nd time. Failed miserablty last year.


It comes at a time when Utah is starting to face serious dilemmas about its future cap sheets with Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors and Rodney Hood due for new big deals in the coming years.


Someone else will be paying Hood

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/08/31/is-the-stifle-tower-the-x-factor-for-the-utah-jazz/


Since the trade of Enes Kanter at the 2015 All-Star break, Rudy Gobert has turned some heads with his game-changing defense.

actually started a couple moths earlier

[QUOTE]despite seeing glimpses of Gobert

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[QUOTE]Here

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http://sircharlesincharge.com/2016/08/30/utah-jazz-three-stars/

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz have become everyone

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http://sircharlesincharge.com/2016/08/29/power-ranking-nba-frontcourts/28/


Hayward is a go-to offensive option who has great range and drives to the basket quite well.

He can hit a 3. Today that isn't great though.


Gobert is finally coming into his own

2nd month of his 2nd season is finally? :coleman:

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2016/9/1/12748504/nba2k17-ratings-utah-jazz-derrick-favors-gordon-hayward-joe-johnson-joel-bolomboy-pistol-pete

[QUOTE], I

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BJoLYFVDB9D/

At least he appears to be in great shape this year. Hard lesson to learn with an ACL geting blown.

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/01/can-utah-jazz-win-northwest-division/

Does it really matter? It means nothing now as far as playoff seeding right?

[QUOTE]while Minnesota will more than likely be improved next season, they still shouldn

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4307073-155/jazz-nearing-several-hard-financial-decisions


Hayward's pending free agency is well known. He's expected to opt out of the final year of his contract next summer and cash in for max dollars, whether it be with the Jazz, or with another team.

The only reason the tanking has finally stopped. If he couldn't opt out they'd still be playing to lose. :banghead:


He can also renegotiate and extend either Hill or Favors.

sounds like both


Before trading Pleiss, the Jazz didn't have the requisite cap space to offer Favors an extension.

you mean before getting Diaw. They did have it. Why didn't they just keep it? :confusedshrug:


If they don't extend Favors, I'm not sure it was a worthwhile deal."

Could still sign Hill. Could get picks back using their cap space to take on a contract like Hawes. They were supposed to be offering a 1st to take him.

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The 76ers

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2016/9/5/12800204/golden-state-warriors-utah-jazz-2016-preview


With Dante Exum and Rodney Hood, the Utah Jazz had two players on the wing that had the wingspans of forwards, power forwards.

Hood doesn't have great length


The Utah Jazz then moved the offensive hub to Hayward. Shifting another responsibility normally designed for the backcourt to the front court.

and based on what we saw the ball needs to be in Mack and Neto's hands


Derrick Favors and Rudy Gobert, both rim protectors in their own right, became the gate keepers to an opposing team.

let's keep saying it even if it's not true


A team that is more apt to throw a shoulder than to throw a 3 pointer.

I'd guess they will throw up more than most teams this year.

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http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/from-the-courts/ranking-nba-coach-year-candidates-2016-17/


Projected range for 2016-17 wins: 44-54

I'd probably want him fired for that. Outside Gobert everyone still has a lot to prove including coach

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http://saltcityhoops.com/why-rudy-gobert-is-worth-following/


The Jazz acquired Gobert through a draft night trade with the Denver Nuggets in exchange for Erick Green and cash considerations. Erick who?

I liked Green. Think he's in someone's camp


emerging last year as one of the premier rim protectors in the league

almost 2 years ago now

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http://sircharlesincharge.com/2016/09/05/nba-rumors-gordon-hayward-free-agency/

[QUOTE]According to Tony Jones of the Salt Lake Tribune, while there is definite excitement revolving around this version of the Utah Jazz, there

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2661769-nba-rumors-latest-buzz-on-gordon-hayward-potential-kevin-love-trade-and-more


But they also have to worry about Rudy Gobert (a restricted free agent in 2017), Derrick Favors (unrestricted in 2018), and Dante Exum and Rodney Hood (both restricted in 2018), along with some other smaller pieces of their future.



Let Exum show something first. Hood will be gone.

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http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/gordon-hayward-expected-opt-out-test-free-agency-next-summer/320935

[QUOTE]Hayward, who probably would already have multiple All-Star appearances under his belt if he didn

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[QUOTE] The Utah Jazz have signed rookie small forward Quincy Ford, the team formally announced on Wednesday morning. In a deal that comes with a partial guarantee of $75,000, Ford, a 6-foot-8 small forward out of Northeastern, will attend training camp, which starts on September 27th, and is expected to be on the Salt Lake City Stars roster, Utah

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http://www.sltrib.com/blogs/jazznotes/4325564-155/jazz-sign-ford-to-partially-guaranteed


Ford is expected to join rookie point guard Marcus Paige with the Stars. The Jazz currently have 14 guaranteed contracts on their roster. The 15th spot is expected to go to center Jeff Withey, who has a contract that will become guaranteed in January.

Wallace and Bolomboy will hopefully be on the Stars as well

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2016/9/7/12841232/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-mark-eaton-kyrylo-fesenko-greg-ostertag-dominate


doing so on a foot so jacked that he would require post-draft / pre-summer league surgery.

that's a bit worrisome for a big guy. maybe why he wasn't drafted higher?


Mark Eaton had height and basketball IQ (timing, instincts, etc).

:roll:


now really strong.

stronger. really strong? :confusedshrug:

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/07/utah-jazz-training-camp-battles-back-wing/


However, with the start of training camp on the horizon, the battle for playing time in the second unit will soon be going in full force. One situation that will be particularly interesting to monitor will be the way in which Jazz coach Quin Snyder handles the reserve wing minutes.

The biggest battle should be for the starting 1 and 2. I sure don't think that is being given to anyone.


When healthy, Alec Burks is without a doubt the best choice as the first shooting guard off the bench. In fact, in his highs, Burks could even challenge Hood for the starting gig. However, during 2015 training camp and the early part of the 2015-16 season, Burks proved to be the most effective fit when coming off the bench in a Sixth Man type role.


I think he could be traded as soon as he shows other teams he's healthy. Hood and Exum should be fighting for the back-up 2 as I see it.

[QUOTE]Assuming Burks is playing at a high level, he still deserves

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[QUOTE] David Locke: Word out of Jazz is Gordon Hayward and Derrick Favors notched up the off-season work to brand new level. Trey Lyles not far behind

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[QUOTE] The Milwaukee Bucks have signed free agent guard Orlando Johnson and free agent forward J.J. O

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http://www.12up.com/posts/3737065-4-predictions-for-the-utah-jazz-for-the-2016-17-season


Postseason Appearance

really going out on a limb there!


​Utah's offense was atrocious last season, as it was utterly stagnant due to a lack of playmakers. However, with the addition of Johnson, Diaw, and Hill and the return of Alec Burks and Dante Exum, the Jazz should have better ball movement and players who can create for themselves. Certainly, they won't be ranked third to last in points this upcoming season especially with the roster makeover they had during free agency.


and a full season of Mack! :bowdown:


Two seasons ago, the Jazz were ranked first in opponent points per game. Last season, they dropped to second behind the San Antonio Spurs. Nonetheless, they may be able to return to the top in this particular category because of their lengthy French big man Rudy Gobert. Gobert's intimidating factor has made Utah one of the best defensive teams in the league, and they show it by holding opponents under 100 points most nights.

think they were first with Mack because their offense was better


​Rudy Gobert will be eligible for a contract extension this year, and he will most likely receive a massive deal when that time comes. He is the heart and soul of Utah's interior defense and has been significantly improving each year. He is definitely a keeper, and the future of the team. When Gobert does get his extension, he will deserve every penny of it.


I'd guess next summer. Better be 5 year max though!

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/08/utah-jazz-gm-dennis-lindsey-length/


For Utah Jazz GM Dennis Lindsey, Length is the Thing


obviously

[QUOTE]In my 20 years as a Utah Jazz fan, the team has only signed away one free agent for double-digit millions per year: Carlos Boozer, in 2004, on a five-year/$60M deal. Laboring in one of the league

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/07/ranking-utah-jazz-four-tiers-western-conference/

[QUOTE]Utah Jazz: I

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[QUOTE]Alex Kennedy: More info: The Utah Jazz

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Alex Kennedy: Jermaine Taylor will work out for the Utah Jazz, per sources.

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Chris Reichert: Jerrelle Benimon turned down camp offer from Utah Jazz and will sign in China with Qingdao, source tells U&M

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http://hoopshabit.com/2016/09/08/utah-jazz-golden-state-warriors-threat/

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz were not a playoff team last season. Despite having the seventh-best defensive rating in the NBA, the team wasn

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/breaking-down-the-most-underrated-player-on-each-nba-team/

Hayward isn't the most underrated. :facepalm

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Alex Kennedy: In addition to working out free agents Jermaine Taylor and Henry Sims today, sources say the Jazz will work out Richard Solomon next week.

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http://hoopshabit.com/2016/09/08/utah-jazz-golden-state-warriors-threat/2/

[QUOTE]Last season it wouldn

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http://hoopshabit.com/2016/08/23/utah-jazz-best-move-make/


Best Move They Made: Trading for George Hill

so far. signing Favors to an extension would be bigger though


Utah has high hopes for next season, and point guard stood out as both a point of depth and a lack of reliable production. Trey Burke and Raul Neto both have backup point guard as their end point, while Shelvin Mack is a high-usage ball-dominant guard who provides inconsistent defense.

I can see Neto as a starter. Mack too. Had number 1 D with him. Burke is a 3rd pg at best right now though it looks like he might back up Wall


If the team can re-sign Hill to a team-friendly contract, either by an extension or in free agency next summer, then Utah will have 48 minutes of consistent point guard play moving forward.

Let's see if Exum is actually an NBAer first please!


Paige is always going to be an undersized guard too small to guard 2s and too trigger-happy to run an NBA offense. The upside for such a pick is limited.

Has length. Needs to get stronger. He didn't necessarily look trigger happy. Might not matter anyway since they will lose his rights once he's sent to the D-league

[QUOTE]Adding players who can

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http://hoopshabit.com/2016/08/18/utah-jazz-new-backcourt-x-factor/


Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors have proven to be a good duo, with the first being a rim protector and the latter being a more proven low-post scorer.

proven for a year. Hopefully it doesnt disappear like his jumer did.


If they were to experiment with an Exum-Hill backcourt, it could work.

It could and I imagine that is what they envision eventually but Dante has to show he can play first.

[QUOTE]But if Quin Snyder puts this duo out on the court together, he really isn

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http://hoopshabit.com/2016/08/14/utah-jazz-have-given-gordon-hayward-some-offensive-help-finally/

The Utah Jazz are an elite defensive team. They were able to keep their opposition at an average of 95.9 points per game. Second best in the NBA last season. However, their offense was ranked 28th last season. Unfortunately, this is due to too much of the load being on Gordon Hayward.


The Utah Jazz are an elite defensive team. They were able to keep their opposition at an average of 95.9 points per game. Second best in the NBA last season. However, their offense was ranked 28th last season. Unfortunately, this is due to too much of the load being on Gordon Hayward.

biggest problem was not having a vet on the team instead of Burke. Once Mack came they were a different team. Neto could have done more too if they'd let him run the offense


The third addition which will help Hayward is Hill, who played with the Indiana Pacers last season. In a position-less NBA, Hill is a combo guard who has made a career out of being what is needed. His eight years experience will help Shelvin Mack.

someone that hasn't written off Mack! :applause:

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http://hoopshabit.com/2016/08/04/utah-jazz-2016-offseason-grades/2/

Getting a better point guard, something Hayward desired, will help Gordon's game a lot. He was required to do a lot, too much, last season.


The Jazz use Hood and Hayward as the primary ball handlers in PnR situations, while their point guards usually spot up off of the ball.
except for Mack

[QUOTE]A second round pick five years down the road is not terrific compensation for Burke, but his inability to carve out a concrete role in Utah was frustrating and ultimately forced the front office

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/09/utah-jazz-training-camp-battles-back-up-bigs/


These attributes will be vital to add an extra scoring punch to the second unit while also keeping opposing defenses off balance by throwing the versatile Lyles at them while Favors grabs some rest.

or Rudy or both. The Booker/Lyles line-up was terrible last year. So how they do without both starters is something to watch.

[QUOTE]Aside from shouldering the major load of the reserve power forward minutes, Lyles will also have to assume some of Trevor Booker

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/09/utah-jazz-notes-rudy-gobert-guns-eurobasket/


Dante Exum and Alec Burks will be back on the floor after being felled by injuries last season. Derrick Favors is apparently looking to extend his range, potentially out the three-point line.


Like to see Favors hit even a mid range shot again

[QUOTE]Meanwhile, Rudy Gobert suddenly has the meanest-looking set of guns on the team

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4335397-155/utah-jazz-george-hill-settles-into


The Jazz craved Hill's ability to spot up and hit shots. They welcome his ability to stay in front of the many quicksilver point guards in the league. The Jazz front office would love for him to serve as a mentor to Dante Exum, the young point guard who is a year removed from a torn ACL.


have they actually said any of this? I have yet to read this :confusedshrug:

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/10/utah-jazz-work-out-free-agents-taylor-sims/

Even now, with the Jazz 15-man roster for the 2016-17 NBA season all but set, Lindsey and his brain trust are hard at work, getting to know a slew of vagabond ballers on a personal level. Just this week, a couple of notable players were at the Zions Bank Basketball Center, strutting their stuff for the Jazz GM.


We'll see. I think there could be more moves coming after camp starts. Notable? :rolleyes:

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[QUOTE]David

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[QUOTE]David

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Galatasaray Odeabank Istanbul reacted quickly to fill its need for a big man under the rims by signing a one-year deal with center Tibor Pleiss, the club announced on Monday. A veteran of five Turkish Airlines EuroLeague seasons, Pleiss (2.18 meters, 26 years old) arrives days after Galatasaray parted ways with center Nenad Krstic last week. Pleiss spent last season playing for Utah in the NBA and Idaho in the NBDL.

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[QUOTE] Nets Daily: #Nets weren

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Emiliano Carchia: Richard Solomon will workout with the Jazz today and Tuesday

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[QUOTE] Tony Jones: Former Los Angeles Lakers shooting guard Jabari Brown is working out for the jazz tomorrow, league sources tell The Salt Lake Tribune

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David Locke: Congrats to Memo Okur for his new job as player development coach with Phoenix Suns. Derrick Favors spoke very highly of working with Memo.

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/12/utah-stars-zelmo-beaty-hall-of-fame-utah-jazz/

He was also the Jazz commentator before Boone. He was just as bad too! :roll:

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/12/utah-jazz-key-dates-2016-17-nba-season/


October 3
The Jazz return to the court for their preseason opener against Damian Lillard, C.J. McCollum and the Portland Trail Blazers.

Finally see if Exum lives up to the hype or is a bust in the making

[QUOTE]October 24
Rosters set for NBA Opening Day. It

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Ryan McDonald: Saw this tweet but didn

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Jazz announce Craig Bolerjack and Matt Harpring are back on Jazz TV broadcasts, David Locke and Ron Boone back on Jazz radio broadcasts.

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http://saltcityhoops.com/rodney-hood-and-the-third-year-leap/


The key to this jump for Miller was that his USG% went up 5.7% to 24.2%. For Hood to have this sort of role on offense he would have to increase his usage by 2.7% and take 3.4 more shots a game. That may be a tough order for Hill on a suddenly much deeper roster, but that would be the path for Hood to take that type of leap.

His usage will be down if he's still on the team. Hopefully a lot more efficient though!

[QUOTE]On the aggregate, these players only improved to a small extent, a sign that we shouldn

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/14/george-hill-dante-exum-point-guard-battle/


Hill fills a hole at the point guard position that ultimately saw Utah miss out on the playoffs last season.

They had a lot bigger issues than Neto. Burke being on the team was one though.


If Hill had have been on the roster last season, making the postseason would have become a near certainty for the Jazz.

If any decent vet that actually fit what they do unlike Burke they make the playoffs. I imagine they could hvae gotten Mack at any time.

[QUOTE]Exum should finally return to action in Utah

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/14/utah-jazz-work-out-jabari-brown-richard-solomon/

[QUOTE]In any event, it

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http://www.si.com/nba/2016/09/12/nba-top-100-player-rankings

[QUOTE] There

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Andy Bailey: The Celtics, Cavs, Warriors, Magic, Spurs & Jazz are the only teams with 5 players in Sports Illustrated

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Andy Larsen: Jazz will reveal Vivint Arena renovation plans next Wed, Sept. 21, at 1:30 PM. Gail Miller, Steve Starks, Jim Olson speaking.

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The Hawks will sign Richard Solomon to a non-guaranteed contract and the forward will join the team for training camp in two weeks, according to several people familiar with the situation. Exact terms of the contract are not known. The 6-foot-11, 235-pound Solomon worked out for the Hawks this week.

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[QUOTE] Scott Souza: #Celtics coach Brad Stevens: player development is not achieved by giving away minutes, it

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http://saltcityhoops.com/three-things-to-watch-this-season/

[QUOTE]While wing depth may lighten Hayward

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/16/utah-jazz-five-players-in-sports-illustrated-top-100/

[QUOTE]Utah Jazz fans were delighted to find five names from their team among the league

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/15/utah-jazz-stars-aaron-craft-trade/

Good mentor for Paige.

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[QUOTE]Remember in 1996 when Denver Nuggets guard Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf refused to stand for the anthem before games and the controversy it caused? He cited his religious beliefs, calling the flag a "symbol of oppression, of tyranny."

He also said: "My beliefs are more important to me than anything. If I have to, I'll give up basketball.

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https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2016/09/17/last-paltry-offseason-odds-and-ends/

[QUOTE]Three. Dennis Lindsey wants you to know something real bad

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/17/utah-jazz-stars-acquire-rights-henry-sims/


While the Jazz will likely turn to Jeff Withey to be their third center, Sims could find himself in the mix down the road.

Wouldn't be so sure. He was shooting the 3 a couple of years ago. Not very good but he shot it.

I assume this means he's getting a camp spot? They look like they are going to have a competitive camp and Dleague team.

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Jabari Brown would make me happy now :applause:

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[QUOTE] The Thunder has renounced the rights to Tomislav Zubcic on Sunday, making the 6-foot-10 forward a free agent. In June 2015, Zubcic, 26, was acquired along with a $2.85 million trade exception by the Thunder from the Toronto Raptors in exchange for Luke Ridnour and cash. Zubcic played 36 games for the D-League Oklahoma City Blue last season, averaging 7.7 points, 4.8 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 19.8 minutes per game. Zubcic was fourth on the Blue in 3-pointers made (44), shooting 35.2 percent.

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[QUOTE] Despite praising rookie forward Brandon Ingram for his playmaking and versatility, Walton said

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[QUOTE]A shoulder injury near the end of last season required surgery. The timetable for his return is sometime next month, but could spill into the start of the regular season. Unsure of how he will perform once he

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John Henderson: @Bolomboy21 showing off a 12 ft plus max reach!

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Rudy Gobert: When you get drafted by Orlando and get to see @EvanFourmizz every day 😂.

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[QUOTE]Assistant coach Igor Kokoskov has been promoted, and will move to the front of the bench. Now entering his second season with the Jazz and 16th as an NBA assistant, Kokoskov

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[QUOTE]As painful as it is, considering I

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http://www.sltrib.com/blogs/jazznotes/4373908-155/jazz-shuffle-staff


The major casualty in the reshuffling is Brad Jones, who had been the lead assistant, as he won't be returning to the Jazz this season in a coaching capacity. There is the chance that Jones can stay on in the organization in a different role. But as an assistant, Jones is out.

He wasn't sitting next to Snyder last year. He was still the lead assistant? I think he was in the back row actually? :confusedshrug:

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865662767/Morning-links-George-Hill-gives-back-Jimmer-Fredette-excited-for-new-opportunity.html

:bowdown:

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http://pickandroll.com.au/aussies-in-nba-where-does-joe-ingles-fit-in-the-utah-puzzle/

[QUOTE]But with the addition of Johnson, and the overall upward trend that Ingles

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/19/utah-jazz-giannis-extension-gobert-next/


The Milwaukee Bucks just signed Giannis Antetokounmpo to a big extension. Can the Utah Jazz do the same with Rudy Gobert?

The problem is even if Rudy will take less he can only sign a 4 year deal. I think you have to give him max to get the 5 years.

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/18/utah-jazz-top-five-power-forwards/


Thurl Bailey was a star in the league and a crucial piece to the Jazz for nearly a decade. Big T could have started for just about every other team in the league throughout the 80s, but ended up playing second fiddle to arguably the greatest power forward of all-time instead.

a star? He was more of a small forward plauing alongside Karl actually though. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]he

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http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/243373/Re-Doing-The-2011-NBA-Draft

Imagine the Jazz with Kyrie! :facepalm

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The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has promoted Richard Smith to executive director of international scouting and Bart Taylor to Jazz director of scouting/Salt Lake City Stars vice president of basketball operations. Additionally, the team announced the hiring of Nixon Dorvilien as director of rehabilitation. Per team policy, terms of the agreements were not announced

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[QUOTE] Andy Larsen: Hayward:

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/21/utah-jazz-vegas-line-win-total-2016-17/

I'll be disappointed if they aren't around 55

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/20/utah-jazz-deep-dives-george-hill/

[QUOTE]Gordon Hayward, selected one pick before George in 2010, mimics the latter

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[QUOTE]Marc J. Spears: The Bucks are bringing ex-Lakers shooting guard Jabari Brown to training camp, a source told The Undefeated. http://es.pn/2cRvCpv

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Andy Larsen: Steve Starks said the Jazz haven

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[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: Re: @Shams Charania report, Bucks making calls today to inquire about wing deal to compensate for Middleton loss, sources tell @The Vertical.

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[QUOTE] Milos Teodosic: In the past I felt that playing in the NBA was not something really close to me. Now, I think about it. I want to travel to the States, play in the NBA and compete against the best players in the world. Maybe now I am more ready mentally and also on the court. I know what I can do it, I believe in myself and I have no doubts or second thoughts. I am in the best phase of my career, I play for the Euroleague champs and I enjoy the most important thing for me since I was a kid, playing on open courts. I enjoy basketball. I will not risk losing that, because this is the only thing that I really need.

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/21/first-option-offensively-utah-jazz/


With Rudy Gobert taking the title as best defender on the Jazz, the three obvious candidates for being the first option offensively are Rodney Hood, Gordon Hayward and Derrick Favors.

Favors was tough last year. They need to try to get him the ball in the post as much as possible. Play inside out.

[QUOTE]Hood, meanwhile, is a player that could easily become the prime offensive threat in the years to come. It puzzles me how people can talk about where the NBA

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[QUOTE] Utah Jazz signed center Henry Sims to a Contract.

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[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has signed free agent forward Eric Dawson. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not released.

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That is 20 for now. Time to play! :cheers:

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[QUOTE]If Sims has a good showing, it could make things interesting for the Jazz

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2663394-power-ranking-all-30-nba-head-coaches-going-into-2016-17-training-camp


Rodney Hood is the ideal three-and-D wing

:facepalm


Snyder granted Trey Lyles an opportunity to carve out an expansive role, and the rookie delivered, adding much-needed spacing and playmaking to the frontcourt.

Also cost them the playoffs. Hard for me to get past that. He has much to prove still.

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865663206/Utah-Jazz-sign-free-agent-forward-Eric-Dawson.html


the height of his career in the United States coming during the 2011-2012 season when he played four games for the San Antonio Spurs and was the 2012 NBA D-League Impact Player of the Year for the Spurs' affiliate, the Austin Toros, who were coached by current Jazz leader Quin Snyder.

they are familiar with each other and this style of ball

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2016/9/23/13031978/utah-jazz-preview-dante-exum-rodney-hood-rudy-gobert-mark-eaton-nba2k17


[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz have struggled through some less than impressive point guard play over the last few seasons. I don

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=41590019&nid=294


David Locke, on his Locked on Jazz podcast Friday morning, reports that Exum weighed in at about 205 pounds, a big jump from his previously listed weight of 190. That's much more in line for what you'd expect from a 6-foot-6 player.

Hopefully 15 pounds makes him more willing to enter the lane


Exum really struggled as a rookie on the offensive side of the ball: in the pick and roll, he picked up a turnover on 46 percent of pick-and-rolls he finished, according to Synergy data relayed by ESPN's Zach Lowe. That's the highest individual rate ever recorded.

and yet people have him penciled in over proven players. :rolleyes:


Is it best for Exum's future for him to get big minutes?

if he earns them finally


George Hill has come into Jazz workouts and blown players and executives alike away with his talent level, sources say, even above and beyond the high expectations of a team that gave away a lottery pick for him in June.

sg? extension?


Shelvin Mack and Raul Neto were part of one of the most effective starting lineups in the league last year, proving adept at not taking away from the other players on the floor.


Mack took away from Hood for the better.


Overall, as Locke says in his podcast, "There have been plenty of times in practice, defensively, offensively, in open gym where you see the flashes." Multiple sources pointed to one workout moment: Exum sprinted down the floor in one game, moved past the defense, and jumped off his injured knee to throw down a dunk.


Can't see flashes getting you on the court with this team anymore though

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=41408879&nid=304&title=the-new-look-jazz-have-some-intriguing-lineup-possibilities


"If those three", referring to Exum, Burks, and Lyles, "can live up to their potential, the Jazz might be the team in the West with the best chance of matching up with the Warriors in the playoffs."

Alec will be gone.


The lineup of long arms: George Hill, Dante Exum, Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors, and Rudy Gobert


How about just defenders since Hayward has short arms?


if you move Gobert outside, Favors can still play in the middle to swallow up shots.

against certain line-ups probably. Favors hasn't shown he's a good enough rim protector though. If he was Rudy wouldn't be so important.


The spacing lineup: George Hill, Rodney Hood, Gordon Hayward, Joe Johnson, and Boris Diaw.
The crazy thing here: the above lineup is a really, really good shooting lineup, right?

Hood and Hayward are streaky.


Joe Ingles, who is probably the very best open jump shooter on the team.

was. not now. Neto?


And Ingles, while a better outright shooter than Hood or Hayward, isn't the team's best defender, either.

But better than Hood


The crazy passing lineup: Raul Neto, Dante Exum, Joe Ingles, Boris Diaw, and Rudy Gobert.

Mack? :wtf:

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=40760563&nid=294


But his mid-range game adds a more dangerous element. Last year, he shot 50.7 percent from 10-16 feet, a mark that was top-10 in the NBA and would have been first on the Jazz last season. His 47.4 percent mark from 3-10 feet is also excellent, and also would have led the team last year. Those shots aren't such good ones that you want to design an offense around them, but he can get the ball late in the shot clock and design a decent look for himself.

they don't want mid range. Could have kept Burke if they did.

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=40665456&nid=304


The upgrade from a Shelvin Mack/Raul Neto/Trey Burke point guard rotation to a George Hill/Dante Exum one is gigantic, probably worth five wins on its own.

Might be 5 less wins. Mack is their best playmaker and I think Neto could be next if he gets the chance. Exum is the 18th guy on the roster until he proves otherwise as far as I'm concerned.


With health and better luck at the end of games, they could have been a 45-50 win team last season

Better coaching and front office work too :rant

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4394464-155/utah-jazz-fully-recovered-from-his


Exum says his knee feels better and stronger than before the injury. He says his explosion off the dribble, his blinding speed, his jumping ability is back.

seeing is believing

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http://purpleandblues.com/2016/09/24/utah-jazz-land-no-7-espns-power-rankings/


stars on both sides of the ball

stars is sure used loosely anymore :rolleyes:

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Aaron Falk: Rudy Gobert on his contract: