Latest terrorist attack, at least 77 dead in France

[~primetime~]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/europe/nice-france-truck/index.html

At least 77 have been reported dead after a truck careened through crowds on a seafront street.

Hundreds, if not thousands, were out on the streets, celebrating Bastille Day, France's answer to July 4th, with fireworks and a beachfront concert.

[StephHamann]

Tucks kill people, ban all trucks.

[Akrazotile]

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[Akrazotile]

Tucks kill people, ban all trucks.


Antarctica has a 0% truck ownership rate per capita, and have you ever heard of anyone being murdered by truck down there?


Exactly.


The math is undeniable. BAN ALL TRUCKS.

[highwhey]

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is she wrong?

[highwhey]

Antarctica has a 0% truck ownership rate per capita, and have you ever heard of anyone being murdered by truck down there?


Exactly.


The math is undeniable. BAN ALL TRUCKS.

I BEG TO DIFFER

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[Nick Young]

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Islam is an idea. Ideas can't be our enemy. Radical Islamists following their interpretation of the Islamic religion, who dedicate their lives to the destruction of America and the West? They are definitely our enemies.

[Akrazotile]

Islam is an idea. Ideas can't be our enemy. Radical Islamists following their interpretation of the Islamic religion, who dedicate their lives to the destruction of America and the West? They are definitely our enemies.


Islam is an idea and is not our enemy.

But Muslims are people and they're pretty much our enemy. They are people who believe what the koran says is how society should operate. The koran preaches violence and intolerance. This is not compatible with our western world.

It's like saying the nazis aren't the enemies of jews, because nazism is just a political concept, it can't hurt anyone.

The problem is the core values of these ideas preach violence against others, and the people who adopt them as lifestyles are very dangerous.

[Cali Syndicate]

I was in Malaysia for almost 2 weeks , a huge majority of their population are of Muslim background. Everyone I met was nice and never once did I feel any discrimination or intolerance towards me. Americans are such a misinformed bunch it's not even funny.

[iamgine]

I was in Malaysia for almost 2 weeks , a huge majority of their population are of Muslim background. Everyone I met was nice and never once did I feel any discrimination or intolerance towards me. Americans are such a misinformed bunch it's not even funny.
Most of the population in Malaysia, Indonesia and around that area love white people and view the typical Americans and Europeans positively. This is because white people are usually nice looking (Tall, white), charming, well mannered and not cheap with their money.

[Nick Young]

Islam is an idea and is not our enemy.

But Muslims are people and they're pretty much our enemy. They are people who believe what the koran says is how society should operate. The koran preaches violence and intolerance. This is not compatible with our western world.

It's like saying the nazis aren't the enemies of jews, because nazism is just a political concept, it can't hurt anyone.

The problem is the core values of these ideas preach violence against others, and the people who adopt them as lifestyles are very dangerous.
Sorry bro I don't think the same as you. I have met too many Muslims in my life who are genuinely good people to just condemn a whole religion of 1.7 billion people. There are many dominant violent sects and movements of Islam right now but the entire religion is not a violent sect and it is definitely possible to life a hate free life of morality based on the teachings in the Koran. That is how the majority of Muslims on the planet follow the religion. PEACEFULLY AND NORMALLY. The problem for me is that the violent minority is too large and too violent. And ALSO way more Muslims than anyone in the West is willing to talk about are supportive of the violence and Sharia madness.

Was Mohammad a peaceful man who lead a peaceful life and practiced everything that he preached? No. That doesn't mean that it isn't possible to follow his preachings peacefully.

[LJJ]

I was in Malaysia for almost 2 weeks , a huge majority of their population are of Muslim background. Everyone I met was nice and never once did I feel any discrimination or intolerance towards me. Americans are such a misinformed bunch it's not even funny.

Or maybe as a rich foreign tourist you don't experience the discrimination and hardships that minority Malaysians do very much suffer.

[sd3035]

religion of peace

[Akrazotile]

Sorry bro I don't think the same as you. I have met too many Muslims in my life who are genuinely good people to just condemn a whole religion of 1.7 billion people. There are many dominant violent sects and movements of Islam right now but the entire religion is not a violent sect and it is definitely possible to life a hate free life of morality based on the teachings in the Koran. That is how the majority of Muslims on the planet follow the religion. PEACEFULLY AND NORMALLY. The problem for me is that the violent minority is too large and too violent. And ALSO way more Muslims than anyone in the West is willing to talk about are supportive of the violence and Sharia madness.

Was Mohammad a peaceful man who lead a peaceful life and practiced everything that he preached? No. That doesn't mean that it isn't possible to follow his preachings peacefully.

Thats all fine if they want to do that in their own countries. We dont need another divisive force in America. The problem with multiculturalism is it results in forced compromises that leave nobody happy. Let them go praise Mohamed and Allah over somewhere else, and we'll do our thing here. The west has its own culture, its own roots, and there is enough strife as it is between the traditional religions and the secular crowds. We do not need to add Muslims to the equation, IMO. I dont care if some of them are nice. There is no benefit to us to bring them here. It is all risk and no reward.

They can do what they want in the sandbox. Let's leave them alone. But the west should not put up with this nonsense in our own borders. Leave them to their own devices, somewhere else.

[Cali Syndicate]

Or maybe as a rich foreign tourist you don't experience the discrimination and hardships that minority Malaysians do very much suffer.

My point is that I didn't feel any Muslim I came across wanted to incite violence due to their intolerance towards me or my wife. as others have pointed out, apparently the quran suggests this.

For the first few days, my wife was wearing tank tops and short shorts (Malaysia is super hot and humid)....but as a courtesy and respect, she wore clothes a tad more appropriate to the culture the remaining days. but even for those first few days , we didn't get any aggression towards us. Not even a harsh glare. That's all I'm saying.

[west_tip]

Thats all fine if they want to do that in their own countries. We dont need another divisive force in America. The problem with multiculturalism is it results in forced compromises that leave nobody happy. Let them go praise Mohamed and Allah over somewhere else, and we'll do our thing here. The west has its own culture, its own roots, and there is enough strife as it is between the traditional religions and the secular crowds. We do not need to add Muslims to the equation, IMO. I dont care if some of them are nice. There is no benefit to us to bring them here. It is all risk and no reward.

They can do what they want in the sandbox. Let's leave them alone. But the west should not put up with this nonsense in our own borders. Leave them to their own devices, somewhere else.

Agree with all of that, especially the bolded.

Best case scenario: Muslims integrate, assimilate, no problems but what are the benefits? What skills and abilities are Muslims bringing to the table that could not be found in other cultures? If it's all about pushing the multicultural agenda then Sikhs and Hindus are a better bet.

Worst case scenario: Nice, Paris & Brussels.

No way any rational person is prepared to assume that level of risk for such minimal rewards. Don't forget the most radical of Muslims is often the 2nd and 3rd generation who are born and raised in the West.

[LJJ]

My point is that I didn't feel any Muslim I came across wanted to incite violence due to their intolerance towards me or my wife. as others have pointed out, apparently the quran suggests this.

For the first few days, my wife was wearing tank tops and short shorts (Malaysia is super hot and humid)....but as a courtesy and respect, she wore clothes a tad more appropriate to the culture the remaining days. but even for those first few days , we didn't get any aggression towards us. Not even a harsh glare. That's all I'm saying.



What a moronic thing to say. It's a country where most churches are under active threat of violence and the government heavily discriminates against non-Muslims, but "when I was there two weeks as a tourist no one punched me in the face for not being Muslim, Americans are so misinformed about this.".

The statement you made actually made you seem like a textbook ignorant American. Nobody with half a brain thinks people in Malaysia are anything but friendly and nice to average tourists.

[Brunch@Five]

I guess there's two options to significantly reduce the threat of terrorism:

1) remove all muslims from "western" territories
2) do our best to integrate muslims so that they do not feel alienated. No one who truly believes to be part of the society of a country would launch that kind of an attack on it.

Note that I'm not saying that "we" are at fault for muslims feeling alienated. But there certainly are too many young, poor and disadvantaged muslims in Europe that are easily manipulated by a) radical Imams and b) propaganda clips on the internet.

There is a majority of well-integrated muslims that prove that such integration is possible. Trying to pursue that is certainly morally superior to enacting step 1 of a muslim holocaust.

[poido123]

I guess there's two options to significantly reduce the threat of terrorism:

1) remove all muslims from "western" territories
2) do our best to integrate muslims so that they do not feel alienated. No one who truly believes to be part of the society of a country would launch that kind of an attack on it.

Note that I'm not saying that "we" are at fault for muslims feeling alienated. But there certainly are too many young, poor and disadvantaged muslims in Europe that are easily manipulated by a) radical Imams and b) propaganda clips on the internet.

There is a majority of well-integrated muslims that prove that such integration is possible. Trying to pursue that is certainly morally superior to enacting step 1 of a muslim holocaust.



While there's a war going on and the western world bombs muslim lands, there will always be terrorist attacks and ungrateful muslims trying to ruin western society.


Either will pull out all forces and stop the bombing, or we continue to fight the war and ban Islam in the west.

[Brunch@Five]

While there's a war going on and the western world bombs muslim lands, there will always be terrorist attacks and ungrateful muslims trying to ruin western society.


Either will pull out all forces and stop the bombing, or we continue to fight the war and ban Islam in the west.

If we do provide those muslims that are in our countries with decent life opportunities, they won't have the intrinsic motivation to fight against our society. The fact that western military is fighting in the middle east is an extrinsic motivation that can be used to radicalize young muslims.

There are plenty of muslims that do not have strong feelings towards NATO interventions in Iraq etc. We have to make sure that the primary form of identification is towards western civilization or at least the nation state they live in, not their "religion". That's what enlightenment did to western civilization and which is of utmost importance to be part of our society.

[poido123]

If we do provide those muslims that are in our countries with decent life opportunities, they won't have the intrinsic motivation to fight against our society. The fact that western military is fighting in the middle east is an extrinsic motivation that can be used to radicalize young muslims.

There are plenty of muslims that do not have strong feelings towards NATO interventions in Iraq etc. We have to make sure that the primary form of identification is towards western civilization or at least the nation state they live in, not their "religion". That's what enlightenment did to western civilization and which is of utmost importance to be part of our society.


But western society doesn't support muslim beliefs. Democracy is the enemy and they look to change the culture they're in.

What we consider our culture, they find offensive and feel a need to stop it and change it.


Banning Islam is the only way IMO. It's a hard thing to do in this PC world, but I think it's the only way to win the war on Islam.

[west_tip]

If we do provide those muslims that are in our countries with decent life opportunities, they won't have the intrinsic motivation to fight against our society. The fact that western military is fighting in the middle east is an extrinsic motivation that can be used to radicalize young muslims.

There are plenty of muslims that do not have strong feelings towards NATO interventions in Iraq etc. We have to make sure that the primary form of identification is towards western civilization or at least the nation state they live in, not their "religion". That's what enlightenment did to western civilization and which is of utmost importance to be part of our society.


This narrative doesn't mesh with reality because Jacques Chirac was at the forefront of the European opposition to the war in Iraq. I remember Bill O'Reilly imploring his viewers to boycott French products because of France's opposition to the war. In fact you may recall some piece of shit in Congress renamed French fries to "freedom fries" for precisely the same reason. That our government did something so petty is still to this today hugely embarrassing, but I digress.

France did not support military intervention in the middle east and yet they have had multiple terrorist attacks in the last couple years. Terrorism can't be a function of Muslims anger at western intervention in the middle east otherwise there would have been more terrorist attacks in the United Kingdom and fewer in France.

[Richie2k6]

Thats all fine if they want to do that in their own countries. We dont need another divisive force in America. The problem with multiculturalism is it results in forced compromises that leave nobody happy. Let them go praise Mohamed and Allah over somewhere else, and we'll do our thing here. The west has its own culture, its own roots, and there is enough strife as it is between the traditional religions and the secular crowds. We do not need to add Muslims to the equation, IMO. I dont care if some of them are nice. There is no benefit to us to bring them here. It is all risk and no reward.

They can do what they want in the sandbox. Let's leave them alone. But the west should not put up with this nonsense in our own borders. Leave them to their own devices, somewhere else.

Canada disagrees. That's really only a problem when a massive part of a country's population is discriminatory, racist and prejudice.

[Akrazotile]

Canada disagrees. That's really only a problem when a massive part of a country's population is discriminatory, racist and prejudice.


There is a difference between race and culture, which you are clearly unaware of. Canada brings in immigrants much more likely to assimilate and adopt Canadian culture. Ask Sweden how easy it is to import people who maintain a radically different culture.

Also, you are not intelligent for only saying "thats racist you jerk!!" in every post. We get it. That's your crutch. You have nothing meaningful to contribute except to cry "durrr, white peoples are dur racist!!! Look at me, I sound edgy and smart!!" Just understand, you are not fooling anyone. We know you are compensating.

[Dresta]

Canada disagrees. That's really only a problem when a massive part of a country's population is discriminatory, racist and prejudice.
:facepalm

You're like a bloody doll with a pull-string in its back: pull it and out come the same idiot buzzwords each and every time; the whole world explained in its totality by your own prejudices.

There is no limit to how stupid and counter to every bit of empirical information your catch-all understanding of this is; every country that has a large muslim migrant population has had to make concessions to this growing minority, because guess what---that's how democracies work...they are forced to concede things to groups that are of political importance. Not only that, but without mass muslim migration, there would be no need for the vast surveillance states that are now shooting up all across the West, in direct response to things caused by the attempt to absorb large numbers of muslims.

Keep denying obvious reality you ignorant fool; keep defending the most unashamedly conservative political force in the world right now, and thinking that the aggressive secularism of the West doesn't clash or create conflict with people whose approach to religion is rather different to ours. At the same time as taking the side of the most reactionary people on the planet, you likely view every American social conservative with complete contempt, and are happy to dismiss all of their concerns as a product of bigotry or hate or whatever. Your double standards are despicable, your prejudices as clear as day, and your brazen stupidity downright nauseating.

[Richie2k6]

There is a difference between race and culture, which you are clearly unaware of. Canada brings in immigrants much more likely to assimilate and adopt Canadian culture. Ask Sweden how easy it is to import people who maintain a radically different culture.

Also, you are not intelligent for only saying "thats racist you jerk!!" in every post. We get it. That's your crutch. You have nothing meaningful to contribute except to cry "durrr, white peoples are dur racist!!! Look at me, I sound edgy and smart!!" Just understand, you are not fooling anyone. We know you are compensating.
Darn, you got me :(

[Nick Young]

My point is that I didn't feel any Muslim I came across wanted to incite violence due to their intolerance towards me or my wife. as others have pointed out, apparently the quran suggests this.

For the first few days, my wife was wearing tank tops and short shorts (Malaysia is super hot and humid)....but as a courtesy and respect, she wore clothes a tad more appropriate to the culture the remaining days. but even for those first few days , we didn't get any aggression towards us. Not even a harsh glare. That's all I'm saying.
Of course not idiot, they wanted your tourist money so they kissed your ass. Even if you went to Egypt or Yemen on a tourist tour you wouldn't find people "coming up to you and wanting to incite violence." Use your brain. The common people want your money.


Did you spend much time on this tour hanging out with Malaysian Islamists?


Malaysia is not Saudi Arabia. You went to one of the most liberal Muslim countries on the planet.
Why would people who want your American tourist money treat you badly?

[BoutPractice]

Dresta > Your own reasoning isn't exactly clear at this point either.

You're criticizing the contempt liberals have for American "social conservatives" as well as the "aggressive secularism" of the Western world.

At the same time, you're criticizing liberals for siding with "the most unashamedly conservative force in the world right now" and 'the most reactionary people on the planet".

Is it just the hypocrisy you're condemning, or the conservatism as well?

If it's the conservatism, you're not being consistent.

If it's the hypocrisy, it should mean you prefer reactionary Islam to our "aggressively secular culture". Are you prepared to defend that position?

Of course, you could always argue that radical Islamism isn't conservative, but revolutionary (which is a perfectly defensible argument: ask the people in Africa and the Middle East, and they'll tell you all about Daech and Boko Haram trampling on all traditions) and then defend normal, everyday conservative Islam as a positive counterveiling force, both to aggressive secularism and to revolutionary Islamism. But is that what you were going for?

[Nick Young]

Islamists and groups like ISIS are following Islam in nearly the exact same way Mohammad and his first followers practiced Islam historically.

Like ISIS, Mohammad also:
Was a conquerer
Forced people to convert by the sword or die
Told his followers to ambush enemies and commit acts of terror
Executed people who made fun of him or made art making fun of him
Destroyed pagan monuments and symbols
Enslaved his enemies
Had concubines.



Mohammad also preached peaceful things. I'm not saying he didn't. I'm not saying that it's impossible to follow Islam in a peaceful way. Of course that's not true.


All I'm saying is that Mohammad was not like Jesus and Moses. There is not really historic evidence supporting the existence of Jesus and Moses.

Mohammad was alive in a time where we are able to verify historical accuracy due to all the primary and secondary sources available.

The historic Mohammad did all of the things in my list above. This is 100% undeniable historic fact. Muslims often get butthurt and scream racism when these facts are brought up, but that doesn't make them not true.


Does this mean he was evil or his message was evil? Nope. He also preached many positive and progressive things. Like all great leaders in history, he was a mixed bag. The guy was a product of his time and lived in a harsh culture. He did the best he could with what he had and his religion is the fastest growing today. He was one of the most charismatic people of all time.

That doesn't mean we should just ignore the negative or violent aspects of his message.


If we continue to ignore reality and history, we are never going to learn anything, and this situation will never improve.

[Akrazotile]

Dresta > Your own reasoning isn't exactly clear at this point either.

You're criticizing the contempt liberals have for American "social conservatives" as well as the "aggressive secularism" of the Western world.

At the same time, you're criticizing liberals for siding with "the most unashamedly conservative force in the world right now" and 'the most reactionary people on the planet".

Is it just the hypocrisy you're condemning, or the conservatism as well?

If it's the conservatism, you're not being consistent.

If it's the hypocrisy, it should mean you prefer reactionary Islam to our "aggressively secular culture". Are you prepared to defend that position?

Of course, you could always argue that radical Islamism isn't conservative, but revolutionary (which is a perfectly defensible argument: ask the people in Africa and the Middle East, and they'll tell you all about Daech and Boko Haram trampling on all traditions) and then defend normal, everyday conservative Islam as a positive counterveiling force, both to aggressive secularism and to revolutionary Islamism. But is that what you were going for?


Pretty sure the extremes of liberalism in the world are lefties in the west. The extremes of social conservatism are muslims in the middle east.

So if you oppose extremism, it's pretty consistent to find each of those polar opposites loathsome.

[Nick Young]

Dresta > Your own reasoning isn't exactly clear at this point either.

You're criticizing the contempt liberals have for American "social conservatives" as well as the "aggressive secularism" of the Western world.

At the same time, you're criticizing liberals for siding with "the most unashamedly conservative force in the world right now" and 'the most reactionary people on the planet".

This argument is the equivalent of you bringing a knife to a gunfight.

[Cali Syndicate]

What a moronic thing to say. It's a country where most churches are under active threat of violence and the government heavily discriminates against non-Muslims, but "when I was there two weeks as a tourist no one punched me in the face for not being Muslim, Americans are so misinformed about this.".

The statement you made actually made you seem like a textbook ignorant American. Nobody with half a brain thinks people in Malaysia are anything but friendly and nice to average tourists.

I guess it's just as moronic to say how all Muslims and those who have Islamic values are the enemy because terrorists and wealthy radicals are ****ing shit up. Looking from the outside in, you're obviously only going to see the picture painted. Seems to me , People on the inside don't actually like what is being painted.

[Nick Young]

I guess it's just as moronic to say how all Muslims and those who have Islamic values are the enemy because terrorists and wealthy radicals are ****ing shit up. Looking from the outside in, you're obviously only going to see the picture painted. Seems to me , People on the inside don't actually like what is being painted.

"I went to China for two weeks and the people were happy and smiling at me. None of them were hostile. They all were free and happy."
:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[Cali Syndicate]

Of course not idiot, they wanted your tourist money so they kissed your ass. Even if you went to Egypt or Yemen on a tourist tour you wouldn't find people "coming up to you and wanting to incite violence." Use your brain. The common people want your money.


Did you spend much time on this tour hanging out with Malaysian Islamists?


Malaysia is not Saudi Arabia. You went to one of the most liberal Muslim countries on the planet.
Why would people who want your American tourist money treat you badly?

I saw commonalities whether I was in the tourists areas or not. Had the opportunity to even speak in depth with a few locals and it appears they feel Muslims are wrongly portrayed.

[Cali Syndicate]

"I went to China for two weeks and the people were happy and smiling at me. None of them were hostile. They all were free and happy."
:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

Its not like the government isn't instilling radical values with out heavy punishment or anything like that.

[imdaman99]

Terrorists need some love in their lives. All they are taught to do is hate hate hate. They are killing my people too in my country back home, I have lost a distant relative to these scum :( I don't have any answers other than let's do the logical thing and ignore everything krazytile and brick young preach. Those 2 are the equivolent of an angry imam spreading hate.

RIP to the victims and their families.

[Akrazotile]

Terrorists need some love in their lives. All they are taught to do is hate hate hate. They are killing my people too in my country back home, I have lost a distant relative to these scum :( I don't have any answers other than let's do the logical thing and ignore everything krazytile and brick young preach. Those 2 are the equivolent of an angry imam spreading hate.

RIP to the victims and their families.


"Your people" in "your country"?

So wtf are you doing in America? Youve just stated this is not your country and we are not your people.

So GTFO.

[Nick Young]

"Your people" in "your country"?

So wtf are you doing in America? Youve just stated this is not your country and we are not your people.

So GTFO.
Every other post he is talking about us :lol

Any ideology that cannot stand up to even slight criticism without it's followers going in to meltdown mode is not a strong ideology.

[imdaman99]

"Your people" in "your country"?

So wtf are you doing in America? Youve just stated this is not your country and we are not your people.

So GTFO.
I am more an asset to this country than you are, best believe that. I don't troll message boards all day trying to scam people out of $5 :facepalm

I am murican :pimp:

[Patrick Chewing]

I am more an asset to this country than you are, best believe that. I don't troll message boards all day trying to scam people out of $5 :facepalm

I am murican :pimp:


What are you doing to stop terrorism in the name of your religion?

[poido123]

I am more an asset to this country than you are, best believe that. I don't troll message boards all day trying to scam people out of $5 :facepalm

I am murican :pimp:



Ban of Islam is coming, best believe that.


Your religion is radicalising too many people that something has to be done about these terrorist attacks on home soil.


You might be outraged about it, but national security should be number 1 priority.

[imdaman99]

What are you doing to stop terrorism in the name of your religion?
Those guys have nothing to do with my religion. Don't hold me responsible for lunatics on the other side of the planet or people I have never come in contact with and never will. The violent actions you have talk about with your weapons, you have more things in common with them than I do.

So what are you going to do?

[imdaman99]

Ban of Islam is coming, best believe that.


Your religion is radicalising too many people that something has to be done about these terrorist attacks on home soil.


You might be outraged about it, but national security should be number 1 priority.
There will never be a ban on Islam. My religion is not radicalizing anyone, it's called brainwashing 101. You should know, you are on the other side of the world and believe Trump is the answer :facepalm

[poido123]

Those guys have nothing to do with my religion. Don't hold me responsible for lunatics on the other side of the planet or people I have never come in contact with and never will. The violent actions you have talk about with your weapons, you have more things in common with them than I do.

So what are you going to do?


It does become your responsibility if your religion is tied to governments and you recognise yourself as a race. You have a responsibility to behave in foreign lands.


You can't have it both ways when it suits you.


Pull your people into line or face extreme national security measures. Most muslims in Western countries want fundamentalist islam in their country. I find it hard to believe that you don't know a few of these people.

[poido123]

There will never be a ban on Islam. My religion is not radicalizing anyone, it's called brainwashing 101. You should know, you are on the other side of the world and believe Trump is the answer :facepalm



:roll:


Not radicalising anyone? are you serious

[Patrick Chewing]

Those guys have nothing to do with my religion. Don't hold me responsible for lunatics on the other side of the planet or people I have never come in contact with and never will. The violent actions you have talk about with your weapons, you have more things in common with them than I do.

So what are you going to do?


Surrrre, keep telling yourself that. They are using Islam as a basis to establish their caliphate. Anyone that stands in their way is murdered under "God's will". Those guys read the Quran and pray probably more times than you do on a daily basis. So please, do not insult us by saying that they have nothing to do with Islam. They reside within Islam. They kill in the name of Islam. They are Islam.

But from a standpoint of having someone you know killed by ISIS, what are you going to do about it? You are Muslim. They are dragging you and your people and your "religion" in the mud. How do you stop them?


And don't ask me what I would do. I would do God's work if the law of the land permits. Any terrorist and anyone aiding a terrorist would catch a bullet in the head.

[poido123]

What we need is more muslims than other religions to migrate to the West...


Oh wait

[tomtucker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkpWaTkWgAA09Oi.jpg

[highwhey]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkpWaTkWgAA09Oi.jpg
the tail is extremely photoshopped

[pauk]

Islam is an idea and is not our enemy.

But Muslims are people and they're pretty much our enemy. They are people who believe what the koran says is how society should operate. The koran preaches violence and intolerance. This is not compatible with our western world.

It's like saying the nazis aren't the enemies of jews, because nazism is just a political concept, it can't hurt anyone.

The problem is the core values of these ideas preach violence against others, and the people who adopt them as lifestyles are very dangerous.

Stop with that shit already... they have killed more actual muslims than anything else, as they (criminals, psychos etc.) oppose everything about Islam and unfortunately live in closer proximity...

You think they gave a **** if somebody in Nice crowd was muslim or something? Haha:

Many Muslims reportedly among 84 killed by lorry (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nice-attack-latest-news-lorry-terrorism-muslim-victims-isis-a7138156.html) <----- Nobody cares about that you noticed? Those victims were NOT muslim, its that PSYCHO DRIVER who was muslim / who portrays Islam correctly?

Have some respect... instill some logic, ration and start blaming the attacker instead of his choice of movies, music, friends or ideology....... these are PSYCHOS, stop trying to understand it, they would be PSYCHO even if no religion ever existed.... why? Because there is a ****ing screw loose in his head.... then what do you blame his actions on??? What??