Colin Kaepernick won't stand for anthem.

[UK2K]

He believes, while he wipes the sweat from his head with $100 bills from his $114,000,000 contract, that the US is unfair to black people and refuses to stand for the anthem.

Ahh, freedom of speech and all, he can do what he pleases. I do notice that it's not THAT unfair cause if it were, he wouldn't be here to collect his paycheck, eh? Maybe he got the Russell Wilson treatment and was told hes not being black enough? He's light skinned.

If I lived in Somalia, or South Africa, or Kenya, or Uganda, and I thought those countries were unfair to white people, guess what I'd do? I'd leave. But not before I collect that paper, knowhaimsayin?

[PJR]

Seems like only the White hicks who are voting for Trump, and watch Fox News are outraged by this.

+1 for Kaepernick

[TheWinningFam]

If you're more outraged by collin kaepernick not standing for a national anthem than for cops shooting unarmed people you're the problem.

[UK2K]

Seems like only the White hicks who are voting for Trump, and watch Fox News are outraged by this.

+1 for Kaepernick

Eh, likely. A lot of blacks and hispanics don't give two shits about this country except finding new ways to exploit it, and white liberals hate everything.

Least youre not hiding your racism/bigotry. That's a big step.:lol

[NumberSix]

Meh. On the list of things to be annoyed by, this doesn't even make the list.

[KiiiiNG]

Colin's one of the stupidest guys in the league so this isn't surprising. Kid isn't even black and was raised by white parents. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

This is just cringeworthy all-around. What a ****ing poser.

[UK2K]

If you're more outraged by collin kaepernick not standing for a national anthem than for cops shooting unarmed people you're the problem.
If you're more outraged over cops shooting unarmed people then people shooting unarmed people 1000 times more often, you're part of the problem.

I saw D Wade's cousin was shot and killed in ChIraq last night... let me guess, cops fault? Or do you care about her life cause it wasn't a white guy who killed her?

"I see your trueee colorssss, shining throughhhhh".

Not sure anyone really LIKES cops shooting people, but most people with a grasp and logic and statistics understand its a pretty rare.

[PJR]

If you're more outraged by collin kaepernick not standing for a national anthem than for cops shooting unarmed people you're the problem.

It's truly amazing how outraged a certain segment of White people get when people like Kapernick speak out on social issues.

So because Kapernick has made well for himself as a professional athlete, that means he can't take a stand and use his platform for those who continue to be oppressed? Funny how that works.

A certain segment of White people really do HATE when you remind them of the history of this country. They also want you to believe that White supremacy is a myth in this country, or that racism doesn't exist anymore lol.

[TheWinningFam]

If you're more outraged over cops shooting unarmed people then people shooting unarmed people 1000 times more often, you're part of the problem.

I saw D Wade's cousin was shot and killed in ChIraq last night... let me guess, cops fault? Or do you care about her life cause it wasn't a white guy who killed her?

"I see your trueee colorssss, shining throughhhhh".
Everytime we try to bring this up suspected white supremacist always try to deflect to other unrelated stuff. smh

The difference is police are committing state sanctioned murder, they should be held to a higher standard.

At the end of the day idk why you would be upset by this, Deny a peoples struggles exist and expect them to respect you back brehs.

[UK2K]

Colin's one of the stupidest guys in the league so this isn't surprising. Kid isn't even black and was raised by white parents. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

This is just cringeworthy all-around. What a ****ing poser.
He got his money now he doesn't care....

He's got the mentality of 'what can YOU do for ME'. Most who support his stance on the anthem have a similar outlook. That's how you end up bankrupt after your career... cause you're dumb.

[NumberSix]

It's truly amazing how outraged a certain segment of White people get when people like Kapernick speak out on social issues.

So because Kapernick has made well for himself as a professional athlete, that means he can't take a stand and use his platform for those who continue to be oppressed? Funny how that works.

A certain segment of White people really do HATE when you remind them of the history of this country. They also want you to believe that White supremacy is a myth in this country, or that racism doesn't exist anymore lol.
It's SUPER weird that you assume respect for the national anthem is exclusive to white people.

[warriorfan]

Eh, likely. A lot of blacks and hispanics don't give two shits about this country except finding new ways to exploit it, and white liberals hate everything.

Least youre not hiding your racism/bigotry. That's a big step.:lol

UK2K with another one, this one goes out to the most unintentionally hilarious poster on the forum. UK, never stop being you.

[Akrazotile]

The thing is, if youre not gung ho, rah rah about the anthem and all that, I get it. So just stand there with your teammates and chill, wait for it to be over. You dont have to sing out at the top of your lungs, or shed tears of raw emotion. Everyone will know he's just going through the pregame process, it's not like he's specifically, individually endorsing the ideals and tradition of the anthem.

But by singling himself out, he's not actually serving to advance whatever silly and likely hypocritical ideals he thinks he believes in... He's just attention wh0ring. If he's got real gripes about the system, then articulate them logically in appropriate places. I have a feeling, based on his general behavior, he is not capable of doing that and is instead attempting to simply show off, through artificial rebellion.


But, whatever floats his boat... :confusedshrug:

[UK2K]

Everytime we try to bring this up suspected white supremacist always try to deflect to other unrelated stuff. smh

The difference is police are committing state sanctioned murder, they should be held to a higher standard.

At the end of the day idk why you would be upset by this, Deny a peoples struggles exist and expect them to respect you back brehs.
I agree and I've called for officers who commit crimes in uniform to be given sentences twice as long as allowed... but you don't care about that do you? Nah, you dont.

I don't like the behavior seeing is there have been many who have died for his right to claim life is unfair while bathing in millions of dollars.

But I'm not denying he has the freedom to do what he wants. It's his right not to stand if he so chooses. I just find it really ironic, cause life for blacks isn't THAT unfair if he's not rushing to hand out that money to his oppressed people in the ghetto.

[UK2K]

UK2K with another one, this one goes out to the most unintentionally hilarious poster on the forum. UK, never stop being you.
Call em like you see em. :cheers:

[NumberSix]

:roll:

Just imagine the reaction if Tom Brady refused to stand for the anthem and the reason he gave was "this country allows Mexican illegals to rape and murder innocent Americans".


Sorry, I thought of it and thought it was funny.

[Hawker]

The thing is, if youre not gung ho, rah rah about the anthem and all that, I get it. So just stand there with your teammates and chill, wait for it to be over. You dont have to sing out at the top of your lungs, or shed tears of raw emotion. Everyone will know he's just going through the pregame process, it's not like he's specifically, individually endorsing the ideals and tradition of the anthem.

But by singling himself out, he's not actually serving to advance whatever silly and likely hypocritical ideals he thinks he believes in... He's just attention wh0ring. If he's got real gripes about the system, then articulate them logically in appropriate places. I have a feeling, based on his general behavior, he is not capable of doing that and is instead attempting to simply show off, through artificial rebellion.


But, whatever floats his boat... :confusedshrug:

Agreed.

I wonder how much he does personally to help black youth.

Also, Colin is more privileged than 99% of America.

Not a big deal he choose to do whatever but there's more effective ways of battling a problem than refusing to stand for an anthem.

[UK2K]

:roll:

Just imagine the reaction if Tom Brady refused to stand for the anthem and the reason he gave was "this country allows Mexican illegals to rape and murder innocent Americans".


Sorry, I thought of it and thought it was funny.

Im telling you... his black card was being questioned. RG3 and Wilson went through the same thing. RG3 got suckered into it and became a nobody... Wilson ignored it and won a super bowl and took Futures girl.

[Long Duck Dong]

I wonder if the cops should now ignore black "civil rights" groups because blacks are 3-4 times more likely to kill cops than whites, asians and latinos.

[PJR]

It's SUPER weird that you assume respect for the national anthem is exclusive to white people.

When was the national anthem drafted? In 1813?

So it was drafted at a time where the power structure of White Supremacy was at it ultimate HEIGHTS. A time where Blacks were considered property, and were sold, raped, and beaten to death. Without any type of consequence.

So it's certainly not an anthem for Black Americans to stand for proudly. Certainly not back then, and not now either.

The idea of the national anthem sounds great in theory, if it actually applied to everyone from Day 1.

Respect for national anthem is absolutely exclusive to White people. That's why the vast majority of the outage you see when you search Colin Kapernick on Twitter, comes from those certain segment of Whites with "FOR TRUMP" or "Make America Great again" in their Twitter Bios. It's not a coincidence.


Super weird my ass.

[atljonesbro]

When was the national anthem drafted? In 1813?

So it was drafted at a time where the power structure of White Supremacy was at it ultimate HEIGHTS. A time where Blacks were considered property, and were sold, raped, and beaten to death. Without any type of consequence.

So it's certainly not an anthem for Black Americans to stand for proudly. Certainly not back then, and not now either.

The idea of the national anthem sounds great in theory, if it actually applied to everyone from Day 1.

Respect for national anthem is absolutely exclusive to White people. That's why the vast majority of the outage you see when you search Colin Kapernick on Twitter, comes from those certain segment of Whites with "FOR TRUMP" or "Make America Great again" in their Twitter Bios. It's not a coincidence.


Super weird my ass.
Should the new one be produced by DJ Khaled with Future on the vocals?

[atljonesbro]

Time and place for everything, Colin picked the wrong time. A total show of disrespect for the people who fought to allow him to be trash and collect millions. That INCLUDES black people.

[9erempiree]

Low IQ guy and does his team no favors. He doesn't respect all the great players that played before him and he doesn't respect the position he plays especially for a storied franchise like the 49ers. Total utter disrespectful diva on and off the field.

[NumberSix]

When was the national anthem drafted? In 1813?

So it was drafted at a time where the power structure of White Supremacy was at it ultimate HEIGHTS. A time where Blacks were considered property, and were sold, raped, and beaten to death. Without any type of consequence.

So it's certainly not an anthem for Black Americans to stand for proudly. Certainly not back then, and not now either.

The idea of the national anthem sounds great in theory, if it actually applied to everyone from Day 1.

Respect for national anthem is absolutely exclusive to White people. That's why the vast majority of the outage you see when you search Colin Kapernick on Twitter, comes from those certain segment of Whites with "FOR TRUMP" or "Make America Great again" in their Twitter Bios. It's not a coincidence.


Super weird my ass.
White supremacy? British supremacy maybe. It's not like other Europeans were enthusiastically welcome at that point.

[UK2K]

When was the national anthem drafted? In 1813?

So it was drafted at a time where the power structure of White Supremacy was at it ultimate HEIGHTS. A time where Blacks were considered property, and were sold, raped, and beaten to death. Without any type of consequence.

So it's certainly not an anthem for Black Americans to stand for proudly. Certainly not back then, and not now either.

The idea of the national anthem sounds great in theory, if it actually applied to everyone from Day 1.

Respect for national anthem is absolutely exclusive to White people. That's why the vast majority of the outage you see when you search Colin Kapernick on Twitter, comes from those certain segment of Whites with "FOR TRUMP" or "Make America Great again" in their Twitter Bios. It's not a coincidence.


Super weird my ass.
Ironically the blacks that do believe the national anthem is for them are successful on multiple levels. The ones who don't... generally not so much.

[bdreason]

He just wants attention.

[PJR]

He just wants attention.

Kapernick has been active with his platform on social media, speaking out these certain issues for a while now. It's gotten worse with the most recent killings, so this is him just taking it to another level. Don't view this as attention seeking.






Ironically the blacks that do believe the national anthem is for them are successful on multiple levels. The ones who don't... generally not so much.

You mean like.....Colin Kapernick? :roll:


You know it's entirely possible to make very well of yourself living in the US, while still calling out the bullshit that has gone on, and continues to go on in this country? I know Donald Trump supporting simpletons may not believe this to be true, but it most certainly is.

[UK2K]

Kapernick has been active with his platform on social media, speaking out these certain issues for a while now. It's gotten worse with the most recent killings, so this is him just taking it to another level. Don't view this as attention seeking.




.

You mean like.....Colin Kapernick? :roll:


You know it's entirely possible to make very well of yourself living in the US, while still calling out the bullshit that has gone on, and continues to go on in this country? I know Donald Trump supporting simpletons may not believe this to be true, but it most certainly is.
I said MULTIPLE levels. Any piece of shit can become successful if they're good at sports.

Athleticism has nothing to do with your attitude, but you won't find blacks who are successful on MULTIPLE levels (as Ben Carson is) who believe what you wrote. You won't find many successful people at all, really.

Also, considering Blane Gabbert is taking his spot, him being a success is up for debate. Maybe that's his beef... Mad a white QB is taking his job?

[Facepalm]

He believes, while he wipes the sweat from his head with $100 bills from his $114,000,000 contract, that the US is unfair to black people and refuses to stand for the anthem.

Ahh, freedom of speech and all, he can do what he pleases. I do notice that it's not THAT unfair cause if it were, he wouldn't be here to collect his paycheck, eh? Maybe he got the Russell Wilson treatment and was told hes not being black enough? He's light skinned.

If I lived in Somalia, or South Africa, or Kenya, or Uganda, and I thought those countries were unfair to white people, guess what I'd do? I'd leave. But not before I collect that paper, knowhaimsayin?
Fvck that douche

[ArbitraryWater]

Meh. On the list of things to be annoyed by, this doesn't even make the list.

this is actually gaining traction and support, murrica so ****ed... embarrassing

[Akrazotile]

Kapernick has been active with his platform on social media, speaking out these certain issues for a while now. It's gotten worse with the most recent killings, so this is him just taking it to another level. Don't view this as attention seeking.




http://www.gifbin.com/bin/032011/1299867456_the-situation-is-shocked.gif

For real! Dude is profound af and straight taking it to that other level. Nuff respect to the brother. I expect police-related deaths to drop PRECIPITOUSLY now that Kaepernick aint on that anthem shit.

Time for talk is over. Kaepernick is DOING something. This is real. Honestly, I'm just waiting for him to rip that little American flag patch off his jersey, and we can all march hand-in-hand straight into global utopia.

Take a lesson, wannabes. THIS is how you make a difference.

LET EM KNOW, KAP :applause:

[UK2K]

Kap said 'piles of bodies are in the streets'.. those aren't from cops. Cops didn't murder D Wade's cousin yesterday as she was pushing a stroller down the sidewalk. Slavery didn't murder her. Oppression didn't murder her.

Because none of those things murdered her, nobody cares.

We care about Alton Sterling though, cause that fits the narrative.

[TheWinningFam]

Kap said 'piles of bodies are in the streets'.. those aren't from cops. Cops didn't murder D Wade's cousin yesterday as she was pushing a stroller down the sidewalk. Slavery didn't murder her. Oppression didn't murder her.

Because none of those things murdered her, nobody cares.

We care about Alton Sterling though, cause that fits the narrative.
Why when we talk about police yall always have to deflect to other shit that has nothing to do with what we are talking about, thats the issue.

We're talking about police corruption and what we can do to fix it, not ''black on black crime'' Its like constantly bringing up ''what about aids'' at a breast cancer fundraiser.

[UK2K]

Why when we talk about police yall always have to deflect to other shit that has nothing to do with what we are talking about, thats the issue.

We're talking about police corruption and what we can do to fix it, not ''black on black crime'' Its like constantly bringing up ''what about aids'' at a breast cancer fundraiser.
Because I want dumbasses to understand you are singling out a miniscule percentage of blacks deaths...

Say 'I protest police brutality'. Cool, me too. I have no problem with that idea.

But when you try to exaggerate the problem and relate a small number of deaths to 'bodies laying in the streets' when 96% of those bodies have nothing to do with police... I'm going to call you out for it.

Fair?

I've never heard someone ever say "yeah we get that the vast majority of black murders are committed by blacks but..."

They cant even admit that much. They'd rather not discuss it.

"There's a hole in the boat! We're sinking!"

"Quick, someone get a canopy up to stop the rain water from hitting the deck!"

[Lakers Legend#32]

Kap is my hero.

[TheMan]

Meh. On the list of things to be annoyed by, this doesn't even make the list.
This

OP is easily triggered

[You Cant Ban Me]

i can respect his decision

[sd3035]

Is that guy even black? Look at this uncle Thomas trying to get some street cred :lol

[TheMan]

:roll:

Just imagine the reaction if Tom Brady refused to stand for the anthem and the reason he gave was "this country allows Mexican illegals to rape and murder innocent Americans".


Sorry, I thought of it and thought it was funny.
It would be funny because Mexicans illegals haven't cornered the market on rape and murder in this country. Plenty of 100% real Americans murder and rape everyday.

He'd look like a complete idiot if he did that.

[sd3035]

I guess Colin wants the United States to send all black people back to Africa since they are the ones killing the majority of blacks, and preventing their progress.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Meh. On the list of things to be annoyed by, this doesn't even make the list.

This.

[bdreason]

Kapernick has been active with his platform on social media, speaking out these certain issues for a while now.

I don't follow him on social media, but I don't remember hearing any of this from him when he was a star QB. Seems like he's become a social justice warrior as his star has faded.

[Jameerthefear]

F*ck the anthem.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Im not outraged because I know he will get broken on the field

You think NFL defenses playing the niners wont get fired up about this

[dude77]

what a dumb ungrateful bitch .. that is a symbol of the country that is giving you all the money, fame, comfort that you have .. and you just shit on it .. surely you can find another way to protest criminals being put down by cops .. this goes perfectly with this idiot's iq .. some people really don't deserve what they have

[highwhey]

114 million for this scrub? :roll:

[TheMan]

Kap cashed in while he was hot...

https://youtu.be/23IIQx8PSFE

[knickballer]

I do think there's some irony and ignorance on Kaepernick's part but at the end of the day it's his decision. That's his viewpoint and he's taking a stance on it. Good for him I guess.

But he might be milking this out for sympathy as his reputation as been somewhat damaged as of late.

[9erempiree]

Thank goodness his contract is incentive based.

[Bosnian Sajo]

The fact that people take time out of their day to be outraged by a football player not standing during a fcking anthem....



People on my facebook feed make me cringe. "How dare he, he's disrespecting the flag men and women die for!!" - stfuuuuu, seriously.

[Bosnian Sajo]

what a dumb ungrateful bitch .. that is a symbol of the country that is giving you all the money, fame, comfort that you have .. and you just shit on it .. surely you can find another way to protest criminals being put down by cops .. this goes perfectly with this idiot's iq .. some people really don't deserve what they have


The country isn't "giving" him shit, if anything he is giving the country millions in tax dollars every year. Did the country also give him the talent to be a QB in the NFL? Colin Kaepernick has given more to this country then you and the rest of your family ever will.


He has every right to voice his opinion. I can't believe you even tried to say the country gave him everything he has :oldlol: He would be working a regular 9-5 if he didn't know how to throw a football.


Jam, I'm with you man. **** the anthem. Not cause I hate the USA (I love where I live), but because the people outraged by this are petty af.

[dude77]

The country isn't "giving" him shit, if anything he is giving the country millions in tax dollars every year. Did the country also give him the talent to be a QB in the NFL?


Colin Kaepernick has given more to this country then you and the rest of your family ever will.


He has every right to voice his opinion. I can't believe you even tried to say the country gave him everything he has :oldlol: He would be working a regular 9-5 if he didn't know how to throw a football.


Jam, I'm with you man. **** the anthem. Not cause I hate the USA (I love where I live), but because the people outraged by this are petty af.

^ another dumb ungrateful bitch .. it's giving him the environment and place to do what he does .. in no other country would he be famous or making the money he's making .. IN NO OTHER COUNTRY .. so of course it's giving him 'shit' you dumb mker ..

he would be a fkn no nothing nobody if had been born somewhere else .. his ability to 'throw a stupid ball in the air' wouldn't do shit for him anywhere else .. so he's lucky as shit that he was born here and not somewhere else and should be thankful .. instead he does this .. low iq turd protesting shit he doesn't even know about .. protesting scum getting shot by police by shitting on the anthem of his own country .. he'll probably be broke 5-10 yrs after he retires

[knickballer]

The country isn't "giving" him shit, if anything he is giving the country millions in tax dollars every year. Did the country also give him the talent to be a QB in the NFL? Colin Kaepernick has given more to this country then you and the rest of your family ever will.


He has every right to voice his opinion. I can't believe you even tried to say the country gave him everything he has :oldlol: He would be working a regular 9-5 if he didn't know how to throw a football.


Jam, I'm with you man. **** the anthem. Not cause I hate the USA (I love where I live), but because the people outraged by this are petty af.

Lets be real no one gives a **** about Collin Kaepernick and I'm willing to suspect only a vocal minority of conservative football fans care. What is the percentage of that to the US population? I'm not sure but it's definitely not much.

[Bosnian Sajo]

^ another dumb ungrateful bitch .. ****in' scum .. it's giving him the environment and place to do what he does .. in no other country would he be famous or making the money he's making .. he would be a fkn no nothing nobody .. his ability to 'throw a stupid ball in the air' wouldn't do shit for him anywhere else .. so he's lucky as shit that he was born here and not somewhere else and should be thankful .. instead he does this .. low iq turd .. he'll probably be broke 5-10 yrs after he retires

Profile picture suits you well.

[9erempiree]

I don't care that he doesn't stand because he has a right to. This is what so great about our country even though its a total lack of respect.

On the other hand, I am a fan of the team and this a huge distraction considering there is high expectation for him.

I want him to shut up about social issues and do his job. If you read his twitter he is like an activist. The fan base right now thinks he is doing it to stay relevant.

[warriorfan]

Thank god that dude77 has no children and never will

[Cleverness]

The country isn't "giving" him shit, if anything he is giving the country millions in tax dollars every year. Did the country also give him the talent to be a QB in the NFL? Colin Kaepernick has given more to this country then you and the rest of your family ever will.


He has every right to voice his opinion. I can't believe you even tried to say the country gave him everything he has :oldlol: He would be working a regular 9-5 if he didn't know how to throw a football.


Jam, I'm with you man. **** the anthem. Not cause I hate the USA (I love where I live), but because the people outraged by this are petty af.


I'm not outraged, but it seems like a stupid idea to get your point across.

[dude77]

Thank god that dude77 has no children and never will

^another ***** ass triggered fggt

[dude77]

this is exactly why Trump is going to win .. people are done with these unamerican pieces of shit constantly taking a dump on this country with impunity

[warriorfan]

dude77's bloodline is going to end while he watches cuck porn and slurps Trump's Kool-Aid




































:yaohappy:

[Cleverness]

this is exactly why Trump is going to win .. people are done with these unamerican pieces of shit constantly taking a dump on this country with impunity

lol dude.. are you trying to make Trump look bad?:oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

I'm not outraged, but it seems like a stupid idea to get your point across.


It obviously worked if everyone is talking about it...not so stupid after all.

[dude77]

lol dude.. are you trying to make Trump look bad?:oldlol:

simpleton think

[JtotheIzzo]

He believes, while he wipes the sweat from his head with $100 bills from his $114,000,000 contract, that the US is unfair to black people and refuses to stand for the anthem.

Ahh, freedom of speech and all, he can do what he pleases. I do notice that it's not THAT unfair cause if it were, he wouldn't be here to collect his paycheck, eh? Maybe he got the Russell Wilson treatment and was told hes not being black enough? He's light skinned.

If I lived in Somalia, or South Africa, or Kenya, or Uganda, and I thought those countries were unfair to white people, guess what I'd do? I'd leave. But not before I collect that paper, knowhaimsayin?


Dumb guy gonna dumb.

he'd fit in well around here.

looks like he is setting up an excuse for when he is out of the league, can blame something other than his inability to grasp the mental parts of the game.

this is what happens when simpletons become activists (see the anti-Islam set here in the OTC).

[west_tip]

In what other country in the world can you be born to a destitute mother, get a scholarship to play sports in college, earn over $100 million to play professionally and still after all that be free to express your disdain for the anthem of the country that gave you everything?

Greatest nation on earth, God bless America! :rockon:

[9erempiree]

Like I said, I don't have a problem with him not standing because our country allows us to do so. Is it disrespect? Sort of.

Lets look at 'America' under Obama and Hillary's vision....there is nothing but despair. Selling out to the highest bidder. Inner cities are being neglected and certain groups of this country are being looked upon as votes from the Democrats.

Big ups for him to stand up against our corrupted government.

When Trump gets elected watch him stand up proudly.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I think if you choose not to participate in the national anthem, you should pray instead. If you're feeling a little unsatisfied in the government of this country today, maybe the the polite thing to do is kneel, and give thanks to God. That way you are still participating in the ceremony without being disrespectful, voicing your opinion about America without turning your back on it, and also giving thanks to your higher power at the same time.


.... Deep Thoughts.

[TheMan]

this is exactly why Trump is going to win .. people are done with these unamerican pieces of shit constantly taking a dump on this country with impunity:biggums:

dude77, as a fellow ISHer, I think you should start considering the fact that Trump might not win. Sure, in theory he has a shot but there are indications out there that Trump is fighting an uphill battle.

Just a thought

[Jameerthefear]

I have never stood for the anthem in my entire life and never will.

[atljonesbro]

It obviously worked if everyone is talking about it...not so stupid after all.
It didn't work. Majority of people think its just stupid. It obviously wasn't a genuine act lmao.

[atljonesbro]

I have never stood for the anthem in my entire life and never will.
Do you plan on leaving the country when you get the chance?

[west_tip]

Do you plan on leaving the country when you get the chance?

Not likely. As far as I can tell he's just one of those contrarian type of dudes who will go against the grain in order to be rebellious. If the custom was to sit down during the anthem he would stand up. If someone says go forward he's gonna go backward just because.

He will eventually mature past this mentality.

[JtotheIzzo]

I think if you choose not to participate in the national anthem, you should pray instead. If you're feeling a little unsatisfied in the government of this country today, maybe the the polite thing to do is kneel, and give thanks to God. That way you are still participating in the ceremony without being disrespectful, voicing your opinion about America without turning your back on it, and also giving thanks to your higher power at the same time.


.... Deep Thoughts.

I used to have a Jeehovah's Witness or odd sect of Mormonism kid in my grade 8 home room class who never stood for the national anthem as it was against his family's form of Christianity.

He looked awkward every morning when the anthem and Lord's prayer was played over the loud speaker. All it took was a note from his mother to our homeroom teacher.

People accepted it and moved on. I think 9er and Tip are right to praise the country for accepting it and not getting butthurt, sign of a strong country.

[Jameerthefear]

Do you plan on leaving the country when you get the chance?
What kind of question is that? Are you autistic? :oldlol: "muh anthem"
Go back to Reddit

[Jameerthefear]

Not likely. As far as I can tell he's just one of those contrarian type of dudes who will go against the grain in order to be rebellious. If the custom was to sit down during the anthem he would stand up. If someone says go forward he's gonna go backward just because.

He will eventually mature past this mentality.
Maybe when you grow past 14 you'll start to realize the anthem or the pledge don't mean anything :oldlol: Doubt it though

[Patrick Chewing]

I have never stood for the anthem in my entire life and never will.


That's why you're a scumbag and people hate you.

[Lakers Legend#32]

America was founded on the African slave trade and Native American genocide.
Kap speaks the truth.

[9erempiree]

America was founded on the African slave trade and Native American genocide.
Kap speaks the truth.

Or he could just be tired of this administration and the likelihood of a continuation with Hillary....

I'm going with my theory because to be honest, I don't think Kap has an idea of the slave trade and the genocide.

[dude77]

:biggums:

dude77, as a fellow ISHer, I think you should start considering the fact that Trump might not win. Sure, in theory he has a shot but there are indications out there that Trump is fighting an uphill battle.

Just a thought

he may not win .. but I still think he has a very good shot .. gonna come down to how people react to the upcoming wikileaks and on how well he stays focused and on message and of course the debates can be huge

[L.Kizzle]

Who cares if he does it or doesn't do it?
How many people here sing the national anthem every morning when they wake up or befofe they go to sleep?
It's just words.
No one should be losing sleep because he doesn't want to sing a song.

[ROCSteady]

I have never stood for the anthem in my entire life and never will.


http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/50454.jpg

[StephHamann]

Colin Kaepernick stands for everything that's wrong with pro sports. A scrub millionaire.

[NumberSix]

I don't think he did it to "gain attention". I think he drank the anti-American kool-aid. I think he genuinely believes that America "oppresses" black people.

[PJR]

The outrage coming towards Kap from the thousands of racist white crackers, hurling racial slurs left and right on Twitter is outstanding.

They are far more passionate about this subject than say....Philando Castille (I wonder why?). They are really proving to Kap, and everyone else how United this country is, and has always been :applause:

[KyrieTheFuture]

Maybe when you grow past 14 you'll start to realize the anthem or the pledge don't mean anything :oldlol: Doubt it though
An 18 year old laughing at a 14 year old for being young

[knickballer]

The outrage coming towards Kap from the thousands of racist white crackers, hurling racial slurs left and right on Twitter is outstanding.

They are far more passionate about this subject than say....Philando Castille (I wonder why?). They are really proving to Kap, and everyone else how United this country is, and has always been :applause:

While the twitter and other social media posts are disgusting these people still represent a small fraction of the US population. Most people probably don't care about Kaepernick and alot of these posts get upvoted for the sheer stupidity.

It will be like thinking every millennial in America gets offended by people eating tacos for cultural appropriation based on Tumblr posts. We obviously know that's not the case.

[atljonesbro]

The outrage coming towards Kap from the thousands of racist white crackers, hurling racial slurs left and right on Twitter is outstanding.

They are far more passionate about this subject than say....Philando Castille (I wonder why?). They are really proving to Kap, and everyone else how United this country is, and has always been :applause:
Racist white crackers... Uhh... That has to be the most counter productive statement I've ever seen :lol

[JohnnySic]

Who cares what he does? I dont get why they play the anthem at sports events to begin with.

PS - he's a crap qb anyway. If he was good maybe this would be a story.

[TheMan]

In what other country in the world can you be born to a destitute mother, get a scholarship to play sports in college, earn over $100 million to play professionally and still after all that be free to express your disdain for the anthem of the country that gave you everything?

Greatest nation on earth, God bless America! :rockon:
You do realize there are professional athletes making millions in other parts of the world, right? It's not just an American thing.

Do the names Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Kun Aguero, Luis Suarez, Neymar etc etc ring a bell?

[tomtucker]

America was founded on the African slave trade and Native American genocide.
Kap speaks the truth.
then send the motherfukkers home......nobody will miss em

[Dresta]

It's truly amazing how outraged a certain segment of White people get when people like Kapernick speak out on social issues.

So because Kapernick has made well for himself as a professional athlete, that means he can't take a stand and use his platform for those who continue to be oppressed? Funny how that works.

A certain segment of White people really do HATE when you remind them of the history of this country. They also want you to believe that White supremacy is a myth in this country, or that racism doesn't exist anymore lol.
You really are quite remarkably stupid. If you can't realise why some people might find it hypocritical to be lectured about how unfair life is for blacks by a multimillionaire black man, then I really don't know what to tell you.

Yes, being a rich, privileged, and completely unoppressed individual does not entitle a person to lecture the whole of society about oppression. He does not have some magical tie to the oppressed just because of the colour of his skin; that is the peak of inanity and illogical thinking.

[west_tip]

You do realize there are professional athletes making millions in other parts of the world, right? It's not just an American thing.

Do the names Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Kun Aguero, Luis Suarez, Neymar etc etc ring a bell?

They all had to leave the country of their birth in order to maximize their skills and their earning potential.

In contrast Colin was able to parlay his football talents into a scholarship, a degree in business management and millions of dollars all without leaving the USA. :rockon:

[PJR]

You really are quite remarkably stupid. If you can't realise why some people might find it hypocritical to be lectured about how unfair life is for blacks by a multimillionaire black man, then I really don't know what to tell you.

Yes, being a rich, privileged, and completely unoppressed individual does not entitle a person to lecture the whole of society about oppression. He does not have some magical tie to the oppressed just because of the colour of his skin; that is the peak of inanity and illogical thinking.

So what you're saying is that ONLY the oppressed can speak up on the behalf of other oppressed?

So anyone who has become well off, rich, and or famous can't speak up, or acknowledge social issues that they don't personally relate to? Colin Kaepernick being a rich professional athlete completely invalidates his stance, eh?

If this is what you indeed believe to be true, it is you who is quite remarkably stupid.

[LikeABosh]

Won't be standing much when he's benched for Blaine Gabbert.

[atljonesbro]

So what you're saying is that ONLY the oppressed can speak up on the behalf of other oppressed?

So anyone who has become well off, rich, and or famous can't speak up, or acknowledge social issues that they don't personally relate to? Colin Kaepernick being a rich professional athlete completely invalidates his stance, eh?

If this is what you indeed believe to be true, it is you who is quite remarkably stupid.
I don't really by you aren't for racism when you describe white people as "racist white crackers". I think you're just crying out for attention right now

[Long Duck Dong]

Let me guess. When he loses endorsements and playing time, it will be because of "racism"

[KiiiiNG]

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/50454.jpg
Jameer's the homie but :lol :lol :lol

God stuff Roc Steady. Quality meme.

[PJR]

I don't really by you aren't for racism when you describe white people as "racist white crackers". I think you're just crying out for attention right now

Im not describing all white people as "racist white crackers". I certainly don't hold the stance that all white people are racist. At all. That would be quite foolish. If you are a non bigoted Caucasian person, you're more than good in my book.

If you are a racist, or believe in the ideology of White supremacy, then I don't really give a shit what you think. And I'll mock you to every end. And you are a cracker.

So basically, if the shoes fits......

[L.Kizzle]

Let me guess. When he loses endorsements and playing time, it will be because of "racism"
Should he lose endorsements because of this?

[KiiiiNG]

Im not describing all white people as "racist white crackers". I certainly don't hold the stance that all white people are racist. At all. That would be quite foolish. If you are a non bigoted Caucasian person, you're more than good in my book.

If you are a racist, or believe in the ideology of White supremacy, then I don't really give a shit what you think. And I'll mock you to every end. And you are a cracker.

So basically, if the shoes fits......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbLZPUBOtJ8

[Long Duck Dong]

Should he lose endorsements because of this?

Corporate sponsors generally don't want anything controversial or that upsets a significant amount of their patrons. I though this was common sense

[L.Kizzle]

Corporate sponsors generally don't want anything controversial or that upsets a significant amount of their patrons. I though this was common sense
I'm asking do you think he should, I don't care about what "corporate" sponsors think?

[Long Duck Dong]

I'm asking do you think he should, I don't care about what "corporate" sponsors think?

Then yes he should. He knew he was going to piss off a bunch people he wanted to whore products to

[L.Kizzle]

Then yes he should. He knew he was going to piss off a bunch people he wanted to whore products to
He only pissed of white folks. I guess that's the people that matter huh.

[Long Duck Dong]

He only pissed of white folks. I guess that's the people that matter huh.

You think he pissed off only "white folks"? :oldlol: My girlfriend, who is Hispanic, her brother was railing against this guy something fierce this very morning. He's a marine, but his cousin was pretty much in agreement with him. To think only white folks have national pride is stupid and idiotic.

[L.Kizzle]

You think he pissed off only "white folks"? :oldlol: My girlfriend, who is Hispanic, her brother was railing against this guy something fierce this very morning. He's a marine, but his cousin was pretty much in agreement with him. To think only white folks have national pride is stupid and idiotic.
Maybe I shouldn'thave said just white people. But why was he so fierce about it? It literally means nothing. Why are people losing sleep because an athlete didn't stand up?
It's an 70-80 year old custom, it's not the law.

When did not standing up while the anthem is being sung mean you hate all military people, veterans, ect.

No one here is saying the anthem every morning when they wake up or before they go to bed.
Hell, it only gets done during sporting events. Never seen it at an Award show. They don't even do it during presidential debates or other American politic events.

Be it Colin Kaepernick or Phill Collins, at the end of the day who cares really.

[highwhey]

Maybe I shouldn'thave said just white people. But why was he so fierce about it? It literally means nothing. Why are people losing sleep because an athlete didn't stand up?
It's an 70-80 year old custom, it's not the law.

When did not standing up while the anthem is being sung mean you hate all military people, veterans, ect.

No one here is saying the anthem every morning when they wake up or before they go to bed.
Hell, it only gets done during sporting events. Never seen it at an Award show. They don't even do it during presidential debates or other American politic events.

Be it Colin Kaepernick or Phill Collins, at the end of the day who cares really.
white supremacists care.

[Long Duck Dong]

Maybe I shouldn'thave said just white people. But why was he so fierce about it? It literally means nothing. Why are people losing sleep because an athlete didn't stand up?
It's an 70-80 year old custom, it's not the law.

When did not standing up while the anthem is being sung mean you hate all military people, veterans, ect.

No one here is saying the anthem every morning when they wake up or before they go to bed.
Hell, it only gets done during sporting events. Never seen it at an Award show. They don't even do it during presidential debates or other American politic events.

Be it Colin Kaepernick or Phill Collins, at the end of the day who cares really.

Of course it's not the law, nobody said he should be arrested for it. It's just like any other customary sign of respect. Like if someone extends their hand to you in public and you refuse to take it, or if you are at a ball game and they have a moment of silence for someone who has passed and you keep running your yap. It's your right to do so, but many if not most people expect you follow these traditional signs of respect, and take any grievance you have to another forum. Otherwise you look like a total douche.

And sponsors don't want douches pimping their products.

[Patrick Chewing]

No one should be losing sleep because he doesn't want to sing a song.

:facepalm

It's not about singing, it's about standing up and showing respect. Hardly any athlete sings it cause they probably don't know the words. But stand up is all he had to do.

[Patrick Chewing]

America was founded on the African slave trade and Native American genocide.
Kap speaks the truth.


That was 400 years ago. What does that have to do with anything now?? There is no slave trade or genocide happening now. What's happening now in this country is opportunity, wealth, freedom, etc.


You can't change the past. Anyone that thinks that is a buffoon.

[L.Kizzle]

Of course it's not the law, nobody said he should be arrested for it. It's just like any other customary sign of respect. Like if someone extends their hand to you in public and you refuse to take it, or if you are at a ball game and they have a moment of silence for someone who has passed and you keep running your yap. It's your right to do so, but many if not most people expect you follow these traditional signs of respect, and take any grievance you have to another forum. Otherwise you look like a total douche.

And sponsors don't want douches pimping their products.
I could see if he started screaming obscenities and stuff like that. Now that would be disrespectful IMO. He didn't make a scene (unless not standing is making a scene.)

People make too big of a deal of standing and not standing. It literally doesn't mean he doesn't care about military service.

[Patrick Chewing]

And I like how some posters clearly think showing respect to the flag is a "white thing". How racist and stupid can you be?

If ya'll don't have any respect for this country, then simply get the **** out. Go collect your welfare checks somewhere else and waste their taxpayer money.

You can't change the past (if you even know about American History other than what you can Google up), but you can certainly be a part of the present and future of this country. And if all you do is cry like a bitch about America, white people, and cops, then you'll be a part of American History soon enough. Meaning, you'll be history cause there won't be a future for you ingrates.

[L.Kizzle]

:facepalm

It's not about singing, it's about standing up and showing respect. Hardly any athlete sings it cause they probably don't know the words. But stand up is all he had to do.
Who doesn't know the words, it's done at every game.

And he didn't stand up so what? That doesn't mean he does not respect America or military service. It just means he didn't stand up.

If you can find something that states if you don't stand and place your hand over yoir heart, it means you're an animal and don't respect America?

[L.Kizzle]

And I like how some posters clearly think showing respect to the flag is a "white thing". How racist and stupid can you be?

If ya'll don't have any respect for this country, then simply get the **** out. Go collect your welfare checks somewhere else and waste their taxpayer money.

You can't change the past (if you even know about American History other than what you can Google up), but you can certainly be a part of the present and future of this country. And if all you do is cry like a bitch about America, white people, and cops, then you'll be a part of American History soon enough. Meaning, you'll be history cause there won't be a future for you ingrates.
Never said it was a white thing, I just seen at lot of white folks being overly upset about it. More than any other race.

[Patrick Chewing]

Who doesn't know the words, it's done at every game.

And he didn't stand up so what? That doesn't mean he does not respect America or military service. It just means he didn't stand up.

If you can find something that states if you don't stand and place your hand over yoir heart, it means you're an animal and don't respect America?


It's pretty common knowledge that if you don't stand up during the anthem, you're disrespecting the flag and this country. Notice how the PA announcer asks everyone to stand up for the singing of the anthem?

Are athletes above standing? No. Clearly this was a protest against crap he doesn't know anything about cause he's a privileged primadonna.

There is no defending this. And let's not pretend like we don't know why you're defending him. Birds of a feather flock together. Am I right?

[Patrick Chewing]

Never said it was a white thing, I just seen at lot of white folks being overly upset about it. More than any other race.


Cause White folks make up the majority of sports fans. Clearly you are going to see more White people upset about this, but I'm sure there are countless number of Latinos and Blacks who do not agree. Especially those that have served in the Military.

[RedBlackAttack]

This sounds like a story that FoxNews would just beat the hell out of. I haven't checked to see how it is playing in the media, but it seems like it is in their sweet spot... young, rich black athlete not honoring the country in a manner they deem appropriate is a Roger Ailes wet dream.

[Patrick Chewing]

This sounds like a story that FoxNews would just beat the hell out of. I haven't checked to see how it is playing in the media, but it seems like it is in their sweet spot... young, rich black athlete not honoring the country in a manner they deem appropriate is a Roger Ailes wet dream.


Nice try, buddy.


It's all over social media. ESPN, Fox Sports, CNN, it's everywhere.

[L.Kizzle]

It's pretty common knowledge that if you don't stand up during the anthem, you're disrespecting the flag and this country. Notice how the PA announcer asks everyone to stand up for the singing of the anthem?

Are athletes above standing? No. Clearly this was a protest against crap he doesn't know anything about cause he's a privileged primadonna.

There is no defending this. And let's not pretend like we don't know why you're defending him. Birds of a feather flock together. Am I right?
I already said I don't care. I'm just here reading comments. I said it could be Colin Kaepernick or Phill Collins. I wouldn't look at them any different than before. I'm not going ape shit because of it. I don't think he should be kicked out the country or released from the 49ers.

And how is it disrespect? It's just something that you're expected to do. If it was that big of a deal, it would be done at other events besides sporting events. It's not done at the Academy Awards, the Grammys. Not even the BET Awards man.

Do they even still have the pledge is schools. I know we did it in elementary school but not in middle school and high school.

[Jameerthefear]

I already said I don't care. I'm just here reading comments. I said it could be Colin Kaepernick or Phill Collins. I wouldn't look at them any different than before. I'm not going ape shit because of it. I don't think he should be kicked out the country or released from the 49ers.

And how is it disrespect? It's just something that you're expected to do. If it was that big of a deal, it would be done at other events besides sporting events. It's not done at the Academy Awards, the Grammys. Not even the BET Awards man.

Do they even still have the pledge is schools. I know we did it in elementary school but not in middle school and high school.
yeah they still sadly have the pledge. i know when i was in highschool i never said it or stood up though

[atljonesbro]

I think this is more about him sensing his time the NFL is running out and he's trying to position himself for a longer career. There will definitely be stories on how racist the 49ers are if they cut this guy or maybe even not start him :lol

[RedBlackAttack]

Nice try, buddy.


It's all over social media. ESPN, Fox Sports, CNN, it's everywhere.
Nice try? I made an observation. I don't check any of those stations/websites regularly so I wouldn't know. I do sense that the usual crowd is getting whipped up into a frenzy, though, which tells me FNC is digging its heels in.

[PJR]

Who doesn't know the words, it's done at every game.

And he didn't stand up so what? That doesn't mean he does not respect America or military service. It just means he didn't stand up.

If you can find something that states if you don't stand and place your hand over yoir heart, it means you're an animal and don't respect America?

You see the conclusions these asshats LOVE to draw? :lol

Now Kap doesn't respect the military.


"They" LOVE using Military vets as props when "these" topics come about.

As if there aren't any military veterans of color who don't stand for the same EXACT message that Kap is trying to bring light to.


"They" expose themselves all the time.

[Bankaii]

I don't think he did it to "gain attention". I think he drank the anti-American kool-aid. I think he genuinely believes that America "oppresses" black people.
Maybe because it does...

[KyrieTheFuture]

Well he's assuring people he'll continue to sit, at this rate he'll be doing it at home. He was already a garbage QB and toxic in the locker room, this might be the final nail, no one needs a PR mess.

[NumberSix]

Who doesn't know the words, it's done at every game.

And he didn't stand up so what? That doesn't mean he does not respect America or military service. It just means he didn't stand up.

If you can find something that states if you don't stand and place your hand over yoir heart, it means you're an animal and don't respect America?
He explicitly said his reason for sitting down was to not show respect for America. People aren't guessing that's his reason. He told us that's his reason.

[Nick Young]

I think this is more about him sensing his time the NFL is running out and he's trying to position himself for a longer career. There will definitely be stories on how racist the 49ers are if they cut this guy or maybe even not start him :lol
This makes the most sense.

[NumberSix]

Never said it was a white thing, I just seen at lot of white folks being overly upset about it. More than any other race.
America is mostly white. I'd imagine nearly everything is done by more whites than any other race. More whites eat McDonalds than any other race. More whites play violin than any other race. More whites buy condoms than any other race. More whites drop their phones than any other race.

[NumberSix]

Nice try? I made an observation.
No, you didn't.


I don't check any of those stations/websites regularly so I wouldn't know. I do sense that the usual crowd is getting whipped up into a frenzy, though, which tells me FNC is digging its heels in.
See. You didn't observe this. You're not making an observation. You're blindly guessing.

FYI, Fox is spending all their time talking about the presidential race. I've only seen this topic mentioned 1 single time on Fox and it was only mentioned in passing and talked about for less than 1 minute.

[Patrick Chewing]

And how is it disrespect? It's just something that you're expected to do. If it was that big of a deal, it would be done at other events besides sporting events.


Do me a favor, Google some early pictures of people in classrooms and in baseball stadiums and you'll see that standing up for the National Anthem is a big deal. It was done out of respect for this country. Our country.

Unless you think that back in those days it was a "White thang" only and people of color don't have to subscribe to that. If that's the attitude of today's minorities, then I truly feel sorry for you guys. It will never be "hip" not to stand for the national anthem. Never.

[L.Kizzle]

Do me a favor, Google some early pictures of people in classrooms and in baseball stadiums and you'll see that standing up for the National Anthem is a big deal. It was done out of respect for this country. Our country.

Unless you think that back in those days it was a "White thang" only and people of color don't have to subscribe to that. If that's the attitude of today's minorities, then I truly feel sorry for you guys. It will never be "hip" not to stand for the national anthem. Never.
It's not a big, if it was it would have opened the VMAs instead of Rihanna.
It's literally only done at sporting events. I don't even know if they make kids in school do it.

Also, how many times do you say it?
When is the last time you said the National Anthem on your own? Not at a sporting event but just on your own time to show respect to our Nation? I'm assuming a least a few times a week. It's only the American way right.

[TheWinningFam]

Cant blame him tbh,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cq-zSzYXEAAnOns.jpg


The only people getting upset with this, either dont understand the history behind the anthem and what is means today, or practice and benefit from systematic white supremacy in today's society.

[falc39]

I stand up for the national anthem when I hear it, but it doesn't bother me that Kap didn't. People getting so upset for one person's decision to sit out of something. He didn't bring this attention onto himself, the media did because the media always has to manufacture controversy like this. He also isn't the first athlete to sit down during the national anthem either. If the guy wants to sit down, then let him sit down instead of this compulsory 'pay your respect' nonsense.

[imdaman99]

He's about to get blacklisted like Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf did. Except Mahmoud was a lot more talented than this guy is. Dude was the Steph Curry of that time, not as good but equally as explosive putting the ball in the hoop. Kaep is just an average to below average QB.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Kaepernick is a b1tch and a sh1tty quarterback but who cares if he doesn't stand? He can think whatever negative things he wants about the U.S. Lots of stupid people have stupid opinions- no need to get upset over it.

[G-train]

couldnt care less

[Patrick Chewing]

He's about to get blacklisted like Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf did. Except Mahmoud was a lot more talented than this guy is. Dude was the Steph Curry of that time, not as good but equally as explosive putting the ball in the hoop. Kaep is just an average to below average QB.


His career went downhill after that incident. I think it started when he became Mahmoud, but that's me.

These athletes really aren't that smart when they start making statements like these.

Mo's probably flipping burgers nowadays.

[G-train]

why do they even play the anthem before sporting games.
its a friggin game of sport.
happens world over too, really weird.

[UK2K]

49ers said they could possibly release him before week 1. :oldlol:

Not only do you suck, but now everyone knows you're a shitty person. Good thing you got that money because that's the end of it.

His 19 year old homeless mother (and completely absent father, surprise) gave him up to a white couple who oppressed the shit out of him by forcing him to get 4.0gpas and attend private schools.

He's entitled to opinion.

[keep-itreal]

:roll:

Just imagine the reaction if Tom Brady refused to stand for the anthem and the reason he gave was "this country allows Mexican illegals to rape and murder innocent Americans".


Sorry, I thought of it and thought it was funny.
:oldlol:

[keep-itreal]

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/032011/1299867456_the-situation-is-shocked.gif

For real! Dude is profound af and straight taking it to that other level. Nuff respect to the brother. I expect police-related deaths to drop PRECIPITOUSLY now that Kaepernick aint on that anthem shit.

Time for talk is over. Kaepernick is DOING something. This is real. Honestly, I'm just waiting for him to rip that little American flag patch off his jersey, and we can all march hand-in-hand straight into global utopia.

Take a lesson, wannabes. THIS is how you make a difference.

LET EM KNOW, KAP :applause:

:roll: :roll:

[falc39]

why do they even play the anthem before sporting games.
its a friggin game of sport.
happens world over too, really weird.

That's similar to what one of my friends said when he moved here from his country to work. He was surprised how much we worship our militarism culture and how it permeates into every kind of public event. You can't go to any public event or be a public figure these days without having to thank the military and show your support of the troops. And for some reason if you show any disinterest in doing so, you are immediately shamed. It's kind of troubling when you think about what has been done by reckless US foreign policy over the years.

[nightprowler10]

He's about to get blacklisted like Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf did. Except Mahmoud was a lot more talented than this guy is. Dude was the Steph Curry of that time, not as good but equally as explosive putting the ball in the hoop. Kaep is just an average to below average QB.
I feel like Rauf had no good reason to do it though. I saw the documentary about it and thought his reasoning was bullshit.

[UK2K]

That's similar to what one of my friends said when he moved here from his country to work. He was surprised how much we worship our militarism culture and how it permeates into every kind of public event. You can't go to any public event or be a public figure these days without having to thank the military and show your support of the troops. And for some reason if you show any disinterest in doing so, you are immediately shamed. It's kind of troubling when you think about what has been done by reckless US foreign policy over the years.
You don't have to worship the military, it's just seen as good courtesy to show a slight bit of respect given that America's military is why we even have a country, and why that country is free today.

Free... in a sense. But most of the unappreciative assholes would be killing their first born to get here if they were born in any other country.

You don't have to thank a vet. I don't even like it when people thank me. I don't use my discounts ever. I don't even own anything military related anymore except my dress blues.

But it's telling... when I see someone who can't be bothered to stand for 60 seconds, you can guess which party they vote for with about 99% certainty. Dead give away, don't ask who someone is voting for, ask them if they're proud of their country... that'll give away their voting preference.

[L.Kizzle]

What does being proud of this country mean?

[EllisGW]

anthem was written by white white slave owner talking about the greatness of killing blacks

[UK2K]

What does being proud of this country mean?

Being appreciative. Like this, I'll show you:

I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free....

Because I can voice my opinion. I can walk down the street without being murdered because my uncle's mother was from a different tribe. I can practice any religion I want. I can piss and moan and bitch and complain about practically anything and people HAVE to take it somewhat seriously otherwise they're shamed. I can live where I want, go where I want, do almost anything I want. I can vote for who I want, work ANY job I want (to an extent). Very, very few places on the planet can someone agree with all of those things.

I'm proud of our Olympic athletes, and the medals they bring home. I'm proud that we dominate everything. British? They're cool. Japs? They're cool too. But when push comes to shove, it's America first in my mind. Always has been and always will be. I'm proud of the good we have done (whether you want to believe it or not, I've seen it first hand).

We've made a lot of mistakes, sure, but so has everyone. The UN just admitted they were responsible for the Cholera outbreak in Haiti that killed 10,000 in the past 5 years... nobody says a word. But if ISIS uses a school as a staging depot for weapons and we blow it up, we get crucified by the media. Nobody is perfect, nobody, but there's no country I'd rather live in.

See? It's easy not to whine about something for a few minutes if you consider what all you have been given. It's called being appreciative. But for ****'s sake, some people in this country can't even go that long.

Then again, some people are just born to complain. More accurately, some people have been taught to complain.

[falc39]

You don't have to worship the military, it's just seen as good courtesy to show a slight bit of respect given that America's military is why we even have a country, and why that country is free today.

Free... in a sense. But most of the unappreciative assholes would be killing their first born to get here if they were born in any other country.

You don't have to thank a vet. I don't even like it when people thank me. I don't use my discounts ever. I don't even own anything military related anymore except my dress blues.

But it's telling... when I see someone who can't be bothered to stand for 60 seconds, you can guess which party they vote for with about 99% certainty. Dead give away, don't ask who someone is voting for, ask them if they're proud of their country... that'll give away their voting preference.

Personally, I don't see the national anthem as overly tied to the military and just more of a pride for the country in general, so it is something I always stood up for. But the comment from my friend did make me realize what he was seeing and noticing all the instances from there on.

I don't really agree about knowing someone's political affiliation by how proud they are of their country. I know some very left leaning voters who are proud of the country in an unhealthy way (think of the big government worshippers).

As for your habits and actions, I admire that. I would say that I know some others who are in the military or who were in the military that don't act like you, unfortunately. They easily get offended by any kind of perceived lack of respect and spend a lot of time seeking out stories like this all the time on social media to remind everyone about this lack of support.

[UK2K]

anthem was written by white white slave owner talking about the greatness of killing blacks

Owned a whopping six slaves, whom he later freed. He treated them so awful that one stayed around to work for him after he had been freed.

He also represented slaves in court FOR FREE. He was called the 'N*igger Lawyer'.

Case in point... Some people ^^ just live to complain about anything they can find.

[UK2K]

Personally, I don't see the national anthem as overly tied to the military and just more of a pride for the country in general, so it is something I always stood up for. But the comment from my friend did make me realize what he was seeing and noticing all the instances from there on.

I don't really agree about knowing someone's political affiliation by how proud they are of their country. I know some very left leaning voters who are proud of the country in an unhealthy way (think of the big government worshippers).

As for your habits and actions, I admire that. I would say that I know some others who are in the military or who were in the military that don't act like you, unfortunately. They easily get offended by any kind of perceived lack of respect and spend a lot of time seeking out stories like this all the time on social media to remind everyone about this lack of support.

I know, I've lost friends over it. It's even worse for me because I've disagreed with a lot of vets over this Kap issue. I have a dozen tattoos, some military related, but none you can see if I'm wearing a shirt. I let my hair grow out, I usually keep facial hair, and I smoke pot regularly.

You'd never know I was in the military by meeting me other than my posture and by the way I talk. I've been invited to compete for my college against other colleges in some critical thinking competition because the guy running it could tell I was prior-military (as was he) just by the way I said things.

I don't blame people for taking advantage of the discounts, especially if you're struggling to get by, but that's just not for me. I'd never EXPECT someone to give me special treatment or a discount because at one point I spent a few months in Afghanistan, and a lot of months picking up bark from the grass and escorting people who didn't need an escort.

[NumberSix]

Bitching about how "oppressive" America is, is like a rich kid with a 2014 Ferrari bitching that his parents won't buy him a 2016 Ferrari.

Have some self awareness of how good you have it compared to the rest of the world.

[L.Kizzle]

Being appreciative. Like this, I'll show you:

I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free....

Because I can voice my opinion. I can walk down the street without being murdered because my uncle's mother was from a different tribe. I can practice any religion I want. I can piss and moan and bitch and complain about practically anything and people HAVE to take it somewhat seriously otherwise they're shamed. I can live where I want, go where I want, do almost anything I want. I can vote for who I want, work ANY job I want (to an extent). Very, very few places on the planet can someone agree with all of those things.

I'm proud of our Olympic athletes, and the medals they bring home. I'm proud that we dominate everything. British? They're cool. Japs? They're cool too. But when push comes to shove, it's America first in my mind. Always has been and always will be. I'm proud of the good we have done (whether you want to believe it or not, I've seen it first hand).

We've made a lot of mistakes, sure, but so has everyone. The UN just admitted they were responsible for the Cholera outbreak in Haiti that killed 10,000 in the past 5 years... nobody says a word. But if ISIS uses a school as a staging depot for weapons and we blow it up, we get crucified by the media. Nobody is perfect, nobody, but there's no country I'd rather live in.

See? It's easy not to whine about something for a few minutes if you consider what all you have been given. It's called being appreciative. But for ****'s sake, some people in this country can't even go that long.

Then again, some people are just born to complain. More accurately, some people have been taught to complain.
I agree with everything you said.
You also said you're allowed to voice your own opinion. That's what Kap did and you're shitting on him hard as hell.

And your last statement about complaining. Well, you're complaining that he didn't stand because you were taught that if you don't stand, you hate America and the Military.

[PJR]

Owned a whopping six slaves, whom he later freed. He treated them so awful that one stayed around to work for him after he had been freed.

He also represented slaves in court FOR FREE. He was called the 'N*igger Lawyer'.

Case in point... Some people ^^ just live to complain about anything they can find.

Awww, he only owned 6 of them? And they were "WELL FED", so it was all good that they were considered property, right Bill O'Reilly?

[Dresta]

So what you're saying is that ONLY the oppressed can speak up on the behalf of other oppressed?

So anyone who has become well off, rich, and or famous can't speak up, or acknowledge social issues that they don't personally relate to? Colin Kaepernick being a rich professional athlete completely invalidates his stance, eh?

If this is what you indeed believe to be true, it is you who is quite remarkably stupid.
Where did I say that? I think your reading comprehension is pretty bad too.

And yes, being a rich professional athlete, like a Hollywood megastar, means you are completely detached from real "social issues", are likely to have a warped (and rather self-centred) perspective of things, and makes such preachy nonsense, if not invalid, a bit damn rich. It irks people quite understandably, and if you can't understand why, you don't have much of an imagination.

Nor are athletes or Hollywood stars qualified or positioned to have any insight whatsoever into "social issues"--they live in their own society, which is different to that one the rest of us inhabit. So that they are listened to and given a microphone and platform to mouth off on such subjects is downright absurd, a sure sign of a sick and deluded culture.

[UK2K]

I agree with everything you said.
You also said you're allowed to voice your own opinion. That's what Kap did and you're shitting on him hard as hell.

And your last statement about complaining. Well, you're complaining that he didn't stand because you were taught that if you don't stand, you hate America and the Military.

Perks of living here... he has a right to his opinion, and I have a right to shit on him for it.

But I've never said he should be forced to stand nor did I ever say he didnt have a right to not stand.

[UK2K]

Awww, he only owned 6 of them? And they were "WELL FED", so it was all good that they were considered property, right Bill O'Reilly?

Yes, at a time when slavery was rolling along at 10x the speed in Africa and blacks in America owned slaves themselves, he only owned 6 slaves. Which came back to work for him AFTER he freed them.

Do you care about blacks owning other blacks or is it just a white people hate thing? Because you don't get to be selectively outraged.


The census also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves (1). Even if all slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country (or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves).


These include individuals such as Justus Angel and Mistress L. Horry, of Colleton District, South Carolina, who each owned 84 slaves in 1830. In fact, in 1830 a fourth of the free Negro slave masters in South Carolina owned 10 or more slaves; eight owning 30 or more (2).


Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were not slaves. Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country's leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in

I can keep going....


In 1860 there were at least six Negroes in Louisiana who owned 65 or more slaves The largest number, 152 slaves, were owned by the widow C. Richards and her son P.C. Richards, who owned a large sugar cane plantation. Another Negro slave magnate in Louisiana, with over 100 slaves, was Antoine Dubuclet, a sugar planter whose estate was valued at (in 1860 dollars) $264,000 (3). That year, the mean wealth of southern white men was $3,978 (4).

In Charleston, South Carolina in 1860 125 free Negroes owned slaves; six of them owning 10 or more. Of the $1.5 million in taxable property owned by free Negroes in Charleston, more than $300,000 represented slave holdings (5). In North Carolina 69 free Negroes were slave owners (6).

Quit your bitching. "White people, white people... wahhhh" A quarter of blacks owned slaves, which dwarfs the percentage of whites who owned slaves.

Take your medicine.

[Dresta]

Awww, he only owned 6 of them? And they were "WELL FED", so it was all good that they were considered property, right Bill O'Reilly?
Francis Scott Key is worth 100 of any of these idiot athletes; he was a better man, and far more intelligent than an egotist like Colin Kaepernick. That he was born into a slaveholding society is no more his fault than that of a slave born into bondage; that he actually rejected many aspects of slaveholding, freed his slaves, and supervised the will of John Randolph of Roanoke (freeing several hundred slaves, and settling them on property bought for them in Ohio), shows that he was a man of character and integrity and conscience, and a better man than 95% of society and 99.9999% of professional athletes (living it up in mansions and with fleets of ridiculous cars, while their "oppressed" brothers sit in the squalor that are the streets of US cities).

F.S. Key made such an effort to defend actually oppressed blacks that he was termed "the ****** lawyer"--so you, who haven't done shit for anyone, should get off your high-horse, and stop bashing someone you know nothing about, over such shallow rubbish.

[Nick Young]

Colin Kaepernick Converted To Islam Before His Anti-American Stance. Coincidence? (https://conservativedailypost.com/colin-kaepernick-converted-to-islam-before-his-anti-american-stance-coincidence/)

Intradesting

[32jazz]

Yes, at a time when slavery was rolling along at 10x the speed in Africa and blacks in America owned slaves themselves, he only owned 6 slaves. Which came back to work for him AFTER he freed them.

Do you care about blacks owning other blacks or is it just a white people hate thing? Because you don't get to be selectively outraged.

Take your medicine.

Oh. Bigots still trying to downplay slavery in America.

Stop quoting that nonsense about what percentage of " individual" Whites owned slaves.


If you were intellectually honest you would give us the percentage of Southern Households that owned slaves.

In Missisppi alone,( according to the University of Virginia archives/ slave schedules & Census )49% of Households alone in owned slaves in 1860. Approximately 46% in South Carolina. This info ( slave schedules & Census is public record).


All White members of the Household who benefitted from ,raped, abused & basically had control of their slaves weren't on the deed. Just the Head of Household.

Julia Grant always spoke of "my slaves", travelled with them & assumed to be the owner by all who knew her.

Technically/ Legally/Statistically Mrs. Julia Grant never owned a slave in her life ,but her Father did.


Neo Confederates really like to play fast with facts to downplay slavery.

Go try that with the Holocaust sometime.

[UK2K]

Oh. Bigots still trying to downplay slavery in America.

Stop quoting that nonsense about what percentage of " individual" Whites owned slaves.


If you were intellectually honest you would give us the percentage of Southern Households that owned slaves.

In Missisppi alone,( according to the University of Virginia archives/ slave schedules & Census )49% of Households alone in owned slaves . Approximately 46% in South Carolina.


All White members of the Household who benefitted from ,raped, abused & basically had control of their slaves weren't on the deed. Just the Head of Household.

Julia Grant always spoke of "my slaves", travelled with them & assumed to be the owner by all who knew her.

Technically/ Legally/Statistically Mrs. Julia Grant never owned a slave in her life ,but her Father did.


Neo Confederates really like to play fast with facts to downplay slavery.

Go try that with the Holocaust sometime.

You literally ignored everything about blacks in my post and went straight for white people again. :oldlol:

Predictable, like I said you would. Again, you don't get to be selectively outraged; so condemn many, many black slave owners or go bitch somewhere else.

Or stay here and bitch, I don't really care.

Another fun fact... the first 'official' slave (for life) in the US was owned by a black man. That black man finished his indentured servitude, inherited farmland, and then went out and got him some slaves. Funny, isn't it?

[32jazz]

Bitching about how "oppressive" America is, is like a rich kid with a 2014 Ferrari bitching that his parents won't buy him a 2016 Ferrari.

Have some self awareness of how good you have it compared to the rest of the world.

Because only Whites can criticize this country unlike minorities/legal immigrants who are challenged to leave this country if they dare criticize it.


Minorities/ immigrants should just be glad they are lucky enough to be in the US & be quiet.

Donald Trump should be appreciative that he can make millions selling his Malaysian/ Bangladeshi/ Chinese made clothing in America.


Why doesn't Donald Trump go back to Germany if America is as awful as he says:confusedshrug:





Maybe because a certain demographics feel thy own this country ?


The "Let's take our Country back" crowd.

[Nick Young]

Donald Trump should be appreciative that he can make millions selling his Malaysian/ Bangladeshi/ Chinese made clothing in America.

He does this only because the idiotic bureaucratic red tape laws created by leftards makes it financially impossible to produce clothing in America.

Trump-and all business men dealing with textiles-would price themselves out of the market if they only went with American manufacturing.

This is a fault of the system itself, created by the libtard.

[PJR]

Francis Scott Key is worth 100 of any of these idiot athletes; he was a better man, and far more intelligent than an egotist like Colin Kaepernick. That he was born into a slaveholding society is no more his fault than that of a slave born into bondage; that he actually rejected many aspects of slaveholding, freed his slaves, and supervised the will of John Randolph of Roanoke (freeing several hundred slaves, and settling them on property bought for them in Ohio), shows that he was a man of character and integrity and conscience, and a better man than 95% of society and 99.9999% of professional athletes (living it up in mansions and with fleets of ridiculous cars, while their "oppressed" brothers sit in the squalor that are the streets of US cities).

F.S. Key made such an effort to defend actually oppressed blacks that he was termed "the ****** lawyer"--so you, who haven't done shit for anyone, should get off your high-horse, and stop bashing someone you know nothing about, over such shallow rubbish.

You can sell the bullshit narrative that Francis Scott Key was some hero who helped shaped the new republic of America all you want.

It won't make it any true.

I LOVE how you neglected to mention that he also represented slave owners trying to recapture their "property", completely contradicting the cause.

He also always maintained the belief that it was a constitutional right to own slaves, and that blacks were "intellectually and morally inferior".

Francis Scott Key was a shithead. He was just a "nicer" shithead, relative to the field back then. F*ck outta here.

[PJR]

A certain segment of individuals are more offended and outraged at Colin Kaepernick standing up for a cause he believes in, MORE han Donald Trump using the murder of Dwyane Wade's cousin, and the tragedy in Orlando as campaign boosters.

WHAT A TIME.

[UK2K]

A certain segment of individuals are more offended and outraged at Colin Kaepernick standing up for a cause he believes in, MORE han Donald Trump using the murder of Dwyane Wade's cousin, and the tragedy in Orlando as campaign boosters.

WHAT A TIME.

Why not? She's a great example of his main point... That Democrats have been running inner cities for decades and blacks are no better now then they were 30 years ago.

I guess you also have a problem with Clinton using dead felons' mothers as political ammunition as well? Or nah?

[32jazz]

You literally ignored everything about blacks in my post and went straight for white people again. :oldlol:

Predictable, like I said you would. Again, you don't get to be selectively outraged; so condemn many, many black slave owners or go bitch somewhere else.

Or stay here and bitch, I don't really care.

Another fun fact... the first 'official' slave (for life) in the US was owned by a black man. That black man finished his indentured servitude, inherited farmland, and then went out and got him some slaves. Funny, isn't it?

So you refuse to respond to your intellectual dishonesty by quoting some silly small number of Whites who actually owned slaves?


The US Slave Schedules & US Census are public records & the real numbers are indisputable about the percentage of Households that owned slaves. They are fairly easily available & schools like the University of Virginia have already compiled the numbers.

Again.

Mississippi & S.Carolina alone had 49% & 46% of Households that owned slaves in 1860.

And that's not counting those who benefitted from the slave economy ,but did not have them in their household( Patrollers,Traders,Bounty Hunters,Auction Houses,etc...)


Seems as if the Holocaust is the main atrocity that bigots like you are called out for playing fast with the facts.

Neo Confederates have 'almost' normalized the downplaying of slavery .


In other words take that less than 6 percent or so of Whites owned slaves & gtfo.

[Dresta]

So you refuse to respond to your intellectual dishonesty by quoting some silly small number of Whites who actually owned slaves?


The US Slave Schedules & US Census are public records & the real numbers are indisputable about the percentage of Households that owned slaves. They are fairly easily available & schools like the University of Virginia have already compiled the numbers.

Again.

Mississippi & S.Carolina alone had 49% & 46% of Households that owned slaves in 1860.

And that's not counting those who benefitted from the slave economy ,but did not have them in their household( Patrollers,Traders,Bounty Hunters,Auction Houses,etc...)


Seems as if the Holocaust is the main atrocity that bigots like you are called out for playing fast with the facts.

Neo Confederates have 'almost' normalized the downplaying of slavery .


In other words take that less than 6 percent or so of Whites owned slaves & gtfo.
Francis Scott Key wasn't from Mississippi or S. Carolina though. South Carolina was easily the worst offender when it came to slavery. A State like Virginia would likely have abolished slavery themselves if not for the rise of abolitionism and the fear created by things like the Nat Turner revolt (even with these things they were very close to passing a motion that would have gradually abolished slavery in the State).

It is not accurate to portray the South as monolithic; they were not even in political alignment until the rise of abolitionism encouraged them to be. Henry Clay and Calhoun were partners against the Virginians and New Englanders before they became enemies, and they were primarily motivated by the war-interest (they drove the nation to war in 1812, with an eye on Canada).

[Dresta]

You can sell the bullshit narrative that Francis Scott Key was some hero who helped shaped the new republic of America all you want.

It won't make it any true.

I LOVE how you neglected to mention that he also represented slave owners trying to recapture their "property", completely contradicting the cause.

He also always maintained the belief that it was a constitutional right to own slaves, and that blacks were "intellectually and morally inferior".

Francis Scott Key was a shithead. He was just a "nicer" shithead, relative to the field back then. F*ck outta here.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Francis Scott Key was a really remarkable individual. What you know about him you likely just gleaned from wikipedia, but if you've actually gone back and read the letters of people in antebellum America (as I have) you'd be amazed at the number of people who thought Frank Key the most impressive man they knew.

And yes, he opposed abolitionism, just like Lincoln and many others did, because he saw it as destructive, dangerous and counter-productive, and it clearly was. It is not a belief that it was a constitutional right to own slaves, but a legal fact, whether you liked it or not--as a lawyer, one is obliged to recognise and respect the law, even when you disagree with it. But you're obviously too stupid and too ignorant to know even this.

That you think this revelation is some great condemnation and think that you've proven a person a "shithead" because they opposed the very radical abolitionist movement, just goes to show how uninformed and ahistorical you are. No knowledge, no understanding, no logic, just enthusiastic moral fervour: grow up you silly boy.

[UK2K]

So you refuse to respond to your intellectual dishonesty by quoting some silly small number of Whites who actually owned slaves?


The US Slave Schedules & US Census are public records & the real numbers are indisputable about the percentage of Households that owned slaves. They are fairly easily available & schools like the University of Virginia have already compiled the numbers.

Again.

Mississippi & S.Carolina alone had 49% & 46% of Households that owned slaves in 1860.

And that's not counting those who benefitted from the slave economy ,but did not have them in their household( Patrollers,Traders,Bounty Hunters,Auction Houses,etc...)


Seems as if the Holocaust is the main atrocity that bigots like you are called out for playing fast with the facts.

Neo Confederates have 'almost' normalized the downplaying of slavery .


In other words take that less than 6 percent or so of Whites owned slaves & gtfo.

So now 12 year old kids are considered 'slave owners' even if they weren't related to the person who owned the slaves to begin with?

Cause you know what that means, right? At that time, families a dozen deep would pile in with other families and all work the same land. If my grandfather owned slaves, and you lived in my house with 20 other people, you are a slave owner too. Would you say that's accurate or no? Would it be accurate to say my 8 year old nephew is a slave owner because the guy down the road had extra space in his house so he moved in with them, and now he owns slaves?

So you trying to say that half of whites owned slaves (when really, the number wasn't even remotely close to that) is you just trying to spin a fact into something it's not. I never disagreed with your facts, I am just trying to help you understand them.

Are you pissed off blacks owned other blacks or nah? Still haven't answered my question. Or just whites?

Not even worth my time to discuss with someone like you.

[Dresta]

No wonder these people want to tear down America: the absurd and ahistorical moral stance they take when analysing the past almost necessitates it. They don't even bother to try to understand, they just condemn with ignorant enthusiasm.

[NumberSix]

Because only Whites can criticize this country unlike minorities/legal immigrants who are challenged to leave this country if they dare criticize it.


Minorities/ immigrants should just be glad they are lucky enough to be in the US & be quiet.
My post goes for ALL people. I don't know why you've out of the blue attributed it to minorities only. Very odd on your part.


Why doesn't Donald Trump go back to Germany if America is as awful as he says:confusedshrug:

Maybe because a certain demographics feel thy own this country ?
Why are you talking about people leaving the country? Who was talking about that? Who said anything about people leaving?

[NumberSix]

A certain segment of individuals are more offended and outraged at Colin Kaepernick standing up for a cause he believes in, MORE han Donald Trump using the murder of Dwyane Wade's cousin, and the tragedy in Orlando as campaign boosters.

WHAT A TIME.
What is wrong with you people? This man is running to be the head of the government. Do you not think that identifying and addressing problems is EXACTLY what someone in his position SHOULD be doing?

Do you think people running for president should spend their time only talking about things that aren't problems?

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm convinced these assholes want a new country. New name, new flag, new anthem, everything.


Their little brains think they're actually standing up for something revolutionary.

[NumberSix]

Has anybody actually looked at Kap's comment? He said part of his reason for being upset with America is that some like Hillary Clinton can run for president when she should be in prison.

Interesting that THIS part of the story is not being mentioned ANYWHERE in the media.



"I mean, we have a presidential candidate (Hillary) who's deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn't make sense to me, because if that was any other person, you'd be in prison.

So what is this country really standing for?"

[senelcoolidge]

So this guy converted to islam and is dating a BLM girl..talk about a double loser. Funny but this BLM movement as a strong islam element.

[Patrick Chewing]

Has anybody actually looked at Kap's comment? He said part of his reason for being upset with America is that some like Hillary Clinton can run for president when she should be in prison.

Interesting that THIS part of the story is not being mentioned ANYWHERE in the media.


He also called Trump an open racist in the same sentence.

[L.Kizzle]

Has anybody actually looked at Kap's comment? He said part of his reason for being upset with America is that some like Hillary Clinton can run for president when she should be in prison.

Interesting that THIS part of the story is not being mentioned ANYWHERE in the media.
No one has paid attention to anything he has said, they just noticed he didn't stand and went somewhere else.

[Godzuki]

Kapernick fukkin sucks ass. dude played like trent dilfer last year, scared as fukk of INT's to the point 3/4's of his throws were out of bounds lol. this mf'ers is such a mentally weak poohsee, i am not surprised he went cornball black athlete and tried to send some political message. its always mentally weak black dudes that do that like that lebron fgt.

and lmao @ this illiterate mf'er talking about hillary, trump, and obama. sounds like dexter manly trying to read :oldlol:

[UK2K]

I'm convinced these assholes want a new country. New name, new flag, new anthem, everything.


Their little brains think they're actually standing up for something revolutionary.
They do. Anything thought up before 2015 is racist, somehow.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I'm really getting sick of people today expecting people from 200 years ago to live under the moral code we have today.

[UK2K]

He also called Trump an open racist in the same sentence.
He also got fined for calling someone a ****** like two years ago... kyle fuller maybe?

But ****** can call each other ****** because they ****** I guess.

[NumberSix]

Is there any chance that he's the founder of ISIS?

[Bless Mathews]

He also got fined for calling someone a ****** like two years ago... kyle fuller maybe?

But ****** can call each other ****** because they ****** I guess.

A hillbilly gets years in jail for being a crystal meth purchaser.

You are a hillbilly that buys meth in pill form.

Junkie

[atljonesbro]

Already seeing a bleacher report article on how he's "taking himself out the league" with this act. This further confirms my suspicion that this is purely a move to try to lengthen his career

[Patrick Chewing]

Surprised we haven't seen too much mention on his supposed conversion to Islam last year and how his girlfriend may have been the motivation for his actions. She is part of BLM and his a Muslim herself.


Combining BLM and Islam is a recipe for disaster. The media nor the authorities will touch either one of them. They have free reign in this country to pollute the masses with their incendiary anti-American rhetoric.

[knickballer]

I think it's idiotic how the conversation turned into he doesn't support the military and the veterans. So much blind loyalty in this country to the military for the "freedoms" they give and how they make us all safe. From who? Every damn event it's some parading of the military and how we'll be living like savages without them. That money spent on the military needs to be re-invest in the crumbling infrastructure in this country, that's a fact.

But that being said Kaepernick is a ****ing moron and he's obviously doing this right before he's gonna get benched to Blaine ****ing Gabbert. Many of his teammates hate him and have been hating him for years now because he's a locker room cancer. Many of the current and past veterans like Gore, Staley, Willis, Bowman, etc, have indicated disdain towards him and his unprofessionalism. The apparent locker room drift the team during Harbaugh's last year was apparently because of Kaepernick thinking he's above the team and he still has that mentality.

[sd3035]

Crapernick got his 15 min of fame so he finally accomplished something in his football career :applause:

[Nick Young]

Kap getting cut :roll:

What a fluke of a QB

[NumberSix]

I think it's idiotic how the conversation turned into he doesn't support the military and the veterans. So much blind loyalty in this country to the military for the "freedoms" they give and how they make us all safe. From who? Every damn event it's some parading of the military and how we'll be living like savages without them. That money spent on the military needs to be re-invest in the crumbling infrastructure in this country, that's a fact.

There are many countries that would invade and occupy America if they could. The only thing that's stopping them is America's superior military and armed population.

[Godzuki]

God i fukkin hate all of the politically correct mainstream fgts in this country. every fukkin sports radio bitch other than Dukes are ingratiating themselves into the BLM movement, and none of them will be honest with these low IQ ignorant blacks blaming white people and cops for everything.

lmao @ "i got no home to go to, you all brought me here"...mfer, u could go to a million places and make it home. such a joke how a lot of black people blame whites for shit that happened so far back like they themselves didnt get a opportunity at all lol :oldlol:

lmao@ "we need to bring attention to what police are doing to black people" ....and yet u mf'ers dont put any blame on your own black community or people its always someone elses fault :oldlol:

lmao @ "the police are killing black people for no reason all of the time".... no u stupid mf'er, it does not happen all of the time. in fact it happens very infrequently proportional to black arrests.

its just such a joke how NOBODY in sports media will be honest with black people. its full of liberal whites ingratiating themselves to blacks just like every whitie Dem. i swear Trump needs to take control of the NFL and handle the Kaep situation. Ban that nikka from the nfl and hold black people accountable for their own issues :coleman: so fukkin ridiculous nobody will do that but Trump.

[Funktion]

http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/nfl/news/rodney-harrison-colin-kaepernick-not-black/172krqv16ji66153ho89cy75i5

:facepalm

[UK2K]

http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/nfl/news/rodney-harrison-colin-kaepernick-not-black/172krqv16ji66153ho89cy75i5

:facepalm
Blacks claiming other blacks aren't black enough... that's new... :rolleyes:

[Long Duck Dong]

Worst thing is, he's doing it because he's pvssy whipped. His Egyptian gf is dangling him like a puppet. Until he met her he probably loved white people for giving him a great upbringing. Dude is weak, he's a pvssy puppet.

Nessa Diab may be hot AF but I can see this having a negative impact on her career as well with her comments on 9/11 now in the spotlight.

[Long Duck Dong]

When CK is out of the league, he'll still be rich but I bet he will regret this whole thing when his gf moves on to a real black guy.

This will be his theme song when he's looking back at his career

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMVOzPPtiw

[97 bulls]

Blacks claiming other blacks aren't black enough... that's new... :rolleyes:
Did you read the article? He's not black. He's half black. That's that racists one drop rule. I personally disagree. If Kapernik wants to identify with his black side, so be it

[StephHamann]

Did you read the article? He's not black. He's half black. That's that racists one drop rule. I personally disagree. If Kapernik wants to identify with his black side, so be it

Steph Curry is white

[UK2K]

Did you read the article? He's not black. He's half black. That's that racists one drop rule. I personally disagree. If Kapernik wants to identify with his black side, so be it

I didn't need the article to tell me that...

I'm darker than he is.

Pretty sure Steph and Russell Wilson and Blake Griffin have heard the same thing as well. They aren't black enough.

[Patrick Chewing]

Kaperdick personally pissing me and my people off today.

[Funktion]

Rodney Harrison acts like the majority of black men walk around with 2 or 3k in their pockets while grocery shopping.

Of course the follow up tweet:

"I should not have called Colin Kaepernick’s race into question during this morning’s radio interview. It was a mistake and I apologize."

[UK2K]

Kaperdick personally pissing me and my people off today.

pissing his mom off too...

[QUOTE]Colin Kaepernick

[greymatter]

Maybe I shouldn'thave said just white people. But why was he so fierce about it? It literally means nothing. Why are people losing sleep because an athlete didn't stand up?
It's an 70-80 year old custom, it's not the law.

When did not standing up while the anthem is being sung mean you hate all military people, veterans, ect.

No one here is saying the anthem every morning when they wake up or before they go to bed.
Hell, it only gets done during sporting events. Never seen it at an Award show. They don't even do it during presidential debates or other American politic events.

Be it Colin Kaepernick or Phill Collins, at the end of the day who cares really.

Outside of K-12 schooling and sporting events, there isn't a single venue that I can think of where it is custom to play the anthem. It's stupid. What other events are there where you pay money to be entertained and they foist this mindless nationalistic claptrap?

When I pay to see a movie, a Broadway play, or a stripper, they don't bust out with the fcuking anthem before doing their thing.

[Godzuki]

Outside of K-12 schooling and sporting events, there isn't a single venue that I can think of where it is custom to play the anthem. It's stupid. What other events are there where you pay money to be entertained and they foist this mindless nationalistic claptrap?

When I pay to see a movie, a Broadway play, or a stripper, they don't bust out with the fcuking anthem before doing their thing.


thats because you're in the US where a lot of mf'ers dont give a shit about the country and the rights/freedoms they have thanks to past history. black people are probably the least appreciative of it but they're so hung up on the slavery days and recompensation forever from whities to make up for it, they think the country owes them.

every other country's citizens are far more patriotic than we are. the patriotic base of America are mostly old white civilian Republicans, or those in and affiliated with the military.

either way its a matter of respect to those who have paved the road to the freedoms and luxuries you enjoy in America today. ignorant people dont get that.

[AceManIII]

pissing his mom off too...

Colin's "birth" mother is a really crazy broad.

Speaking of crazy broad...

[QUOTE]Sarah Palin Urges Violence Against

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=AceManIII]Sarah Palin Urges Violence Against

[Sarcastic]

Everytime I go to a sporting event, a handful of people just in my section don't stand for the anthem or don't take off their hat. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Everytime I go to a sporting event, a handful of people just in my section don't stand for the anthem or don't take off their hat. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
Do they then take out a megaphone to explain why they didn't?

[Sarcastic]

Do they then take out a megaphone to explain why they didn't?

Did Kaepernick? I was under the impression that the media came to him and asked, but I might be mistaken.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Did Kaepernick? I was under the impression that the media came to him and asked, but I might be mistaken.
Kap is a SJW, he wanted the attention on that stage.

[UK2K]

Yeah, I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that quote isn't entirely accurate.
Yep, don't even have to look it up.

HuffPo probably...

[Jameerthefear]

Word is on campus that a lot of our football players will be doing the same as Kap. Won't say what school I go to, but I guess if the news picks up you'll hear about it. Proud of our boys :applause:

[Sarcastic]

Kap is a SJW, he wanted the attention on that stage.

So he pulled out a megaphone? Didn't know.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Word is on campus that a lot of our football players will be doing the same as Kap. Won't say what school I go to, but I guess if the news picks up you'll hear about it. Proud of our boys :applause:
An empty gesture is so much more powerful when a lot of people do it. Those cops will DEFINITELY stop shooting black people in order to see their beloved athletes stand up for a song.

[Jameerthefear]

An empty gesture is so much more powerful when a lot of people do it. Those cops will DEFINITELY stop shooting black people in order to see their beloved athletes stand up for a song.
I don't care about it for that reason. Just glad they're not f*cking with indoctrination. Good dudes.

[Godzuki]

Word is on campus that a lot of our football players will be doing the same as Kap. Won't say what school I go to, but I guess if the news picks up you'll hear about it. Proud of our boys :applause:


way to make more and more people racist against y'all every day :applause:

[TheWinningFam]

way to make more and more people racist against y'all every day :applause:

Lol if someone is gonna be racist over someone not standing for a flag they are probably already racist. So who cares?

[EllisGW]

this thread shows whites living up to the great talent which racism.

only in America we find white people more mad at a black person fighting for equal rights than a white slave who wrote the anthem talking about killings of blacks.

[EllisGW]

When whites complain about the country, they say they want our country back....when blacks do they say go back to africa haha white people are amazing

[dude77]

he's standing up for a false cause .. cops aren't out to get blacks .. blacks are the ones attacking whites .. playing knockout games on old white people .. raping old white people .. murdering whites .. that's the real problem the 'news' isn't telling us .. colin is a ****in dumbass who's just going off of the stupid shit hears on the 'news' and this blm nonsense .. you can tell he's slow .. he wouldn't come up with this on his own .. and fk the nfl if they don't make him pay or suspend him for this disrespect .. the nfl is already wearing thin with me .. give me one more reason to shut that crap off

[Patrick Chewing]

When whites complain about the country, they say they want our country back....when blacks do they say go back to africa haha white people are amazing


Literally no one publicly or on this site has said Blacks can go back to Africa.


So yeah, go ahead and find some random White person on Facebook through your Google search function and then post it on here as some evidence than White people want Blacks to go back to Africa.

It's all about race with you assclowns.

[Cleverness]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrEMZ16XEAAgbm6.jpg

[Lebron23]

what an idiot.

[Dresta]

this thread shows whites living up to the great talent which racism.

only in America we find white people more mad at a black person fighting for equal rights than a white slave who wrote the anthem talking about killings of blacks.

When whites complain about the country, they say they want our country back....when blacks do they say go back to africa haha white people are amazing

You are a moron and a racist: congratulations.

What "equal rights" was he fighting for exactly? That first post of yours doesn't even make any sense...

[ROCSteady]

*Takes national stance on oppression*



*Wears Fidel Castro t-shirt to press conference*





:hammerhead:

[Patrick Chewing]

*Takes national stance on oppression*



*Wears Fidel Castro t-shirt to press conference*





:hammerhead:


He's doing a great troll job and doesn't know he's doing it.


This is why athletes and entertainers need to keep their nose out of Politics and Social issues. They clearly have little to no knowledge on the subject matter. Kap just proves that he himself is an idiot and actually has done more damage than good.

[MintBerryCrunch]

If you're more outraged by collin kaepernick not standing for a national anthem than for cops shooting unarmed people you're the problem.
:applause:

[EllisGW]

He's doing a great troll job and doesn't know he's doing it.


This is why athletes and entertainers need to keep their nose out of Politics and Social issues. They clearly have little to no knowledge on the subject matter. Kap just proves that he himself is an idiot and actually has done more damage than good.

white person acting like he know more about racial inequality than a black person haha this vegan saying he knows more about the taste chicken than non vegan haha

[EllisGW]

when it comes to racism white people have embarrassment since the first step soil and until today

[UK2K]

white person acting like he know more about racial inequality than a black person haha this vegan saying he knows more about the taste chicken than non vegan haha
His comment was directed at CK's shirt, dumbass. :facepalm

[highwhey]

#VeteransForKaepernick trends as vets defend NFL player

white supremacists are furious.

[Patrick Chewing]

His comment was directed at CK's shirt, dumbass. :facepalm


Dude, it's an epidemic. The stupidity is on another level.

[Dresta]

white person acting like he know more about racial inequality than a black person haha this vegan saying he knows more about the taste chicken than non vegan haha


when it comes to racism white people have embarrassment since the first step soil and until today
:facepalm

This guy is completely illiterate.

[UK2K]

Welcome to the land of exiled black men, Jerry...

You should have known if a black man doesn't support every black stance, they aren't black. That's okay, you're welcome on our side. You can join Kobe, Barkley, and Russell Wilson.

We be assembling a dream team of Uncle Tom's lol

Blacks cutting down other blacks for not being black enough. Yet again.


Jerry Rice Tweets ‘All Lives Matter,’ Endures Twitter Meltdown


Jerry Rice ✔ @JerryRice
All lives matter. So much going on in this world today.Can we all just get along! Colin,I respect your stance but don't disrespect the Flag



@KarmaJonez @KarmaJonez
@JerryRice the cooning never ends

Miko Grimes @iHeartMiko
@JerryRice shut ur ass up! keep your uncle tom, dick in the booty ass IN the closet and OUT of real black people affairs

Willie D ✔ @WillieDLIVE
@JerryRice If you respect his stance why are you speaking against it. Oh that's right, you're a COON!

UnapologeticBlackman @the_ubm
WOW! Look at this boot-licking sh*t right here. #jerryrice SMDH #getofftheplantation https://www.instagram.com/p/BJvrO7wh8xB/

Buddha @buddhacoleman6
MalcolmX said anytime you get a black man speaking with power they find the nearest uncle Tom to counter what he said Tiki Barber Jerry Rice

[atljonesbro]

Welcome to the land of exiled black men, Jerry...

You should have known if a black man doesn't support every black stance, they aren't black. That's okay, you're welcome on our side. You can join Kobe, Barkley, and Russell Wilson.

We be assembling a dream team of Uncle Tom's lol

Blacks cutting down other blacks for not being black enough. Yet again.
This is something I never understood and never will. How can someone not be black enough? Dumbest shit I've heard in my entire life. You see people being called that all the time

[Bless Mathews]

This is a good point. And I've typed it many times on here. As a niggah, kap
Is white. Raised in upper middle class.

http://1csabj4ddrd61fgqez2e4nss.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/14102188_10153893712690954_3719320003967395316_n.j pg

[UK2K]

This is something I never understood and never will. How can someone not be black enough? Dumbest shit I've heard in my entire life. You see people being called that all the time

If you don't fall in line, you aren't black enough... 'but black people are all individuals and we don't all think alike'... which is why Obama got 98% of the black vote, because they think for themselves.

Herd mentality.

It's as simple as that. And the go to response is always to call them Uncle Tom's or question their blackness just as whites (and everyone really) will throw out the word racist when they don't agree with someone's views....

You see it on this board every day. There's no legitimate response but to scream 'racist!', and repeat it over and over.

It's been replayed over and over again... Kobe got it the worst but there's plenty of examples.

[Steven Kerry]

If you don't fall in line, you aren't black enough... 'but black people are all individuals and we don't all think alike'... which is why Obama got 98% of the black vote, because they think for themselves.

Herd mentality.

It's as simple as that. And the go to response is always to call them Uncle Tom's or question their blackness just as whites (and everyone really) will throw out the word racist when they don't agree with someone's views....

You see it on this board every day. There's no legitimate response but to scream 'racist!', and repeat it over and over.

It's been replayed over and over again... Kobe got it the worst but there's plenty of examples.


Nothing like making up stats to support your point in generalizing all black people.

[Nick Young]

This is a good point. And I've typed it many times on here. As a niggah, kap
Is white. Raised in upper middle class.

http://1csabj4ddrd61fgqez2e4nss.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/14102188_10153893712690954_3719320003967395316_n.j pg
He probably felt like a man without a country his entire life growing up so now is trying extra hard and overcompensating in order to do what he thinks it takes to fit in with BLM pro-segregationist psychos.

[UK2K]

Nothing like making up stats to support your point in generalizing all black people.

My bad *******...


Fully 96 percent of black voters supported Obama and constituted 13 percent of the electorate, a 2-percentage-point rise in their national turnout. As in past years, black women turned out at a higher rate than black men.


96% :oldlol:

[falc39]

Kaepernick on the two presidential candidates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktfas66rXUI

I like it :applause:

He really went after Clinton :applause:

[NumberSix]

when it comes to racism white people have embarrassment since the first step soil and until today
Can you English?

[NumberSix]

This is a good point. And I've typed it many times on here. As a niggah, kap
Is white. Raised in upper middle class.

http://1csabj4ddrd61fgqez2e4nss.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/14102188_10153893712690954_3719320003967395316_n.j pg
This doesn't really have anything to do with anything. Having a white family doesn't make his opinion invalid.

[Godzuki]

bleacher reports has THE worst writers. i swear they just take people off the street to write for them. i dont even believe bleacher report has the pull to talk to 10~ nfl executives. its the biggest joke sports site i come across.

anyways i hope Kaepernick is run out of the league but considering the amount of blacks in the NFL, i'm sure many will be siding with him. i swear if not for the black athletes and entertainers the whole BLM movement would be nothing. most black movements are carried by the black athletes and entertainers, who convince weak minded whites, azns, etc. to join their bandwagon. more than a few of them weak bitches here :coleman:

lol i'll never forget the wave of support out of nowhere for Palestine after Dwight and Rihanna tweeted their support.

[longtime lurker]

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/colin-kaepenick-veteransforkaepernick-black-lives-matter-protest-national-anthem/1wegquuk48g661n5yu0f617na0

[Snow]

This doesn't really have anything to do with anything. Having a white family doesn't make his opinion invalid.

True, but lots of successful blacks including the most successful black of all time, Obama have been raised by whites. How many whites have become successful raised by blacks?

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/steve-martin-the-jerk-today.jpg

[Godzuki]

Lol if someone is gonna be racist over someone not standing for a flag they are probably already racist. So who cares?

nah i'm talking about everything. the impeding traffic, impeding shoppers at malls, arm bands, boycotting, etc. etc. everywhere that has zero to do with the area or medium its done. all of this attention u bring to ureselves is negative attention, purposely to annoy everyone else to look. its called being a pest. BLM and the black movement today are trying their best to annoy the fukk out of everyone until they think like black people do - that cops are racist and every black is innocent.

and nobody who isn't some low IQ easily brainwashed moron is buying that shit. people who were in the middle with no racist thoughts at all previously have to be getting annoyed as fukk seeing this shit everywhere. especially when at the same time all you're reading about are black people pulling guns and killing each other. nobody wants to turn on NFL to see every story about that corny mf'er kaepernick. nobody wants to be stuck in traffic for hours over black people protesting shit they got zero to do with.

the black movement of today is full of so much hypocrisy they're not called out on because its politically incorrect....probably more accurate to call it abusing the race card because anyone that does is labeled a racist or 'trump lover'. there aren't sadder white people than Bernie sanders and the spineless poohsee's like him with zero backbone who support racism against themselves :coleman:

[AceManIII]

^^^^^

Nicole Ritchie is one...

A lot of black families ain't trying to adopt white kids though.

https://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/lol-white-people-dancing-1.gif

[Snow]

^^^^^

Nicole Ritchie is one...

A lot of black families ain't trying to adopt white kids though.

https://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/lol-white-people-dancing-1.gif

Nicole "Ritchie" isn't white. She's black, or biracial. Definitely blacker than Steph.

http://thelaughingstork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Answer33.jpg

[NumberSix]

Lol. This retard Kaepernick is now a Fidel Castro supporter. You can't make this shit up. :roll:

This idiot is bitching about "injustice" and "oppression" and supports evil scum like Castro. That's like bitching about racism while wearing a KKK hood.

What a clown.

http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/colin-kaepernick-castro-t-shirt.jpg

[UK2K]

Lol. This retard Kaepernick is now a Fidel Castro supporter. You can't make this shit up. :roll:

This idiot is bitching about "injustice" and "oppression" and supports evil scum like Castro. That's like bitching about racism while wearing a KKK hood.

What a clown.

http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/colin-kaepernick-castro-t-shirt.jpg

He's a Muslim convert with a BLM girlfriend...

Not the brightest bulb on the tree.

[Long Duck Dong]

Give him a break. He doesn't know what he's doing. Whatever his girlfriend tells him to do, say or wear, that's what he does. He probably doesn't even know Castro was from Cuba or that Malcolm X was killed by his own fellow black muslims.