2016-17 regular season!

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http://saltcityhoops.com/salt-city-seven-011217/

[QUOTE]He might be the most important non-starter right now, and there are times when the case could be made that he

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/12/utah-jazz-four-bold-predictions-before-the-trade-deadline/


NEXT: Gordon Hayward Will Be an All-Star

The article is missing so I can't comment on anything else but If he is an all-star over Rudy it's a joke!


There was a lot of squabbling about the Jazz last season around the trade deadline as several rumors arose that Utah was going to make a run at some big-time point guards to try to make a late playoff push. Instead they ended up with former Atlanta Hawks third string point guard Shelvin Mack. Pretty big time, huh?

Yeah it was actually. Almost got them in the playoffs. If the move had been made before the season like it should have been they would have likely been in easily. The fact that the front office appeared to be tanking until that point was ridiculous after they finished as one of the best teams the year before! :rant


However, call me crazy, but I think the Jazz are going to pull the trigger and in someway be a participant in or before the trade deadline madness.

You change your mind a lot!

[QUOTE]And although the Jazz are definitely having a successful season, especially in comparison to recent years, it

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/12/utah-jazz-joe-ingles-improvements-from-beyond-the-arc/

Again if the people that write this stuff actually watched games they would know that Joe played like he has this year at the end of the past two years. He just started earlier this year. Hopefully he can keep it up

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/12/utah-jazz-joe-ingles-improvements-from-beyond-the-arc/

Again if the people that write this stuff actually watched games they would know that Joe played like he has this year at the end of the past two years. He just started earlier this year. Hopefully he can keep it up
People here at BYU are always bagging on Joe Ingles, so I always have to refute them and say that he's playing great. Too many people say "all he does is shoot 3's" and forget that 5 assists and 5 rebounds as well as defensive stops and layups are normal for him

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I have a hard time seeing the Jazz being players in trades, just isn't their style. Who could they get who's on the market though? Perhaps I need to do more research but I don't see any real trade scenarios. I saw you say they need something big, but what could that be?
And yeah Rudy should be an all-star over Gordon, but to say Gordon shouldn't be an all star is wrong and disrespectful. But who knows, maybe not will get in.

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People here at BYU are always bagging on Joe Ingles, so I always have to refute them and say that he's playing great. Too many people say "all he does is shoot 3's" and forget that 5 assists and 5 rebounds as well as defensive stops and layups are normal for him

same people probably think Hayward is their best player too. :lol

Ingles is the 4th most important player on the team easily. Does whatever you need.

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I have a hard time seeing the Jazz being players in trades, just isn't their style. Who could they get who's on the market though? Perhaps I need to do more research but I don't see any real trade scenarios. I saw you say they need something big, but what could that be?
And yeah Rudy should be an all-star over Gordon, but to say Gordon shouldn't be an all star is wrong and disrespectful. But who knows, maybe not will get in.

To me Hayward is their 3rd best player and Hill isn't making it and despite Hayward's stats he doesn't play like a star. What Lowry did to the Jazz twice is what stars do. What Hill did to Philly is what stars do. Hayward doesn't do that. His disappering act against GS was disgraceful as far as I'm concerned

This isn't the Jazz of old. This year is like no other year before as we saw in the off-season with 4 trades and a big free agent signing. I'd say most of the league is on market with so much cap space and flexibilty available to so many teams. 1/3 under the cap! There will be big money being spent through the buy out season in March.

They are under the minimum cap number as are several teams. They have several guys that will be free agents next year that won't be back. They have several holes in the line-up that need filled especially in the front court but also behind Hill. They have to think about the future and who they will surround Rudy with.

Favors? I'm thinking maybe with Gobert's emergence inside he may be expendable and if they are going to trade him they will get more now than in the off-season. Joe Johnson at 11 million next year has to go if someone will take him. Withey has value and won't be back so they might as well get something for him. Not sure why he's on the team. They don't appreciate his Gobert-lite like skills. Burks isn't the best fit. Can they pay Hood and will he be worth what he is going to demand this summer with his limited game? Diaw and Mack won't be back unless Hayward demands his college teammate returns. Open up roster space for what will be a big buy out season.

Jazz have cap space and flexibilty that no one ahead of them in the standing does. I see no reason for them not to be very active.

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http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/

OKC also has cap space and you know they will be active. Got to keep up with the Joneses

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Only one team is paying luxury tax! It will be crazy

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671039/Morning-links-BYUs-Payton-Dastrup-performs-hilarious-bench-celebration-Jazz-players-in-small.html

Johnson ahead of Ingles? :coleman:

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42862697&nid=304&title=utah-jazz-at-the-midway-point


I think it's fair to be worried about the future of the Australian Jazz PG.

Yeah maybe since he's eligible for an extension this summer and has one more year on his rookie deal!


It does seem like he's laterally slower than he used to be on the ball

Which is what I questioned when everyone was writing that he'd be great defensively automatically. That's where you would expect him to struggle if anywhere. He still looks really quick to me though


think the biggest difference is mental: he's switching more frequently, getting lost in space and dying on screens more often.

Which is why I don't get why you don't send him to the D-league. Who knows maybe he plays one game and dominates and gets his confidence back and can help the Jazz down the stretch?


Shelvin Mack regressing a little bit. Mack was better in Utah last year than this year, even if you just compare the times that both were in the starting lineup. Last year, Mack had multiple 10-plus assist games, made more of his threes and turned the ball over less frequently. Mack's developed his mid-range game since then, but the package offers less than last season. Backup PG is a spot where the Jazz would like to improve, though they'd rather that improvement come from within.

Yeah maybe he played over his head last year? I think his role continuing to change has made it tough for one thing. Neto played well and to me makes more sense because of his D and spot up ability.


Rodney Hood's improved in a few respects (rebounding, turnovers), but his shooting has declined, especially in recent weeks.

I thought he'd played well before he lost 10 pounds so I'm hoping it's just a matter of getting his strength all back

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2017/1/13/14235570/espn-nba-fake-news-nba-utah-jazz-dante-exum-john-stockton

[QUOTE]Several Dunkers have speculated on why Mack is playing over Dante (some theories include - Mack

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http://www.slcdunk.com/research-statistics-analytics/2017/1/13/14255190/nba-officials-marc-cuban-utah-jazz


Another thought I had was in terms of Dante Exum. It seems to me that he receives some of the worst calls on the team.

poor Dante. Doesn't get to play. Refs pick on him. Boo Hoo. Time to put on your big boy pants if you want to be in the NBA


. It may not be a huge coincidence that Rudy Gobert is getting in less and less foul trouble.

Rudy didn't get in foul trouble until later last year and early this year. I think teams started to play more physical with him. He has adjusted.

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/13/14264542/nba-champions-detroit-pistons-utah-jazz-game-preview-overtone


Gordon Hayward is our Rip Hamilton. His scoring prowess and consistency is starting to become elite, like that of Hamilton. G is averaging more points than Rip did in their championship season.

I'd compare him more with Prince who had the all-around game. Hope Hayward shows up in the playoffs like Prince always did.

[QUOTE]It

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http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2017/1/6/14195710/another-trade-idea-derrick-favors?_ga=1.241655554.121370685.1483193016


Wouldn't want those guys. They have some guys that I'd want but doesn't like like any of them make enough money to make it work

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The Golden State Warriors have assigned forward Kevon Looney and guard Patrick McCaw to the Santa Cruz Warriors of the NBA Development League, the team announced today. Looney and McCaw will join Golden State center Damian Jones, who was assigned on Jan. 5, and the trio will be in uniform for tonight

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Jody Genessy: This All-Star conversation just happened: Reporter to Rudy Gobert:

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Rod Beard: #Pistons KCP has been diagnosed with a Grade-2 left rotator cuff strain. Out tonight vs. Jazz; doubtful Sun. vs. #Lakers.

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671088/Jazz-notes-Rudy-Gobert-envious-of-Zaza-Pachulias-support.html


The Stifle Tower leads the NBA in individual offensive rating and defensive rating and in blocked shots.

How can he not be in the MVP talk? # 1 in offense and defense?

Last night ESPN hardly mentioned him as they gushed over Hayward all night. It gets old. Why does the media have to shove stuff down people's throats?


Gobert received at least two votes from NBA players. The 7-foot-1 center admitted he voted for himself and for Gordon Hayward on Thursday when Jazz players submitted their votes.

at least you didn't vote for any other Jazz players


“That would be great,” Gobert said. “I know the main focus is the team, winning games, but of course everybody wants to be an All-Star for sure.”

hard to see the coaches not taking him. He'll be all-NBA anyway!

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671055/Analyzing-the-good-and-the-bad-for-the-Utah-Jazz-at-seasons-halfway-point.html


those three have been upgrades over options the head coach had a year ago when the maladies arose.

beg to differ. Diaw was good last night though. Id look to trade him and especially Johnson though


Besides the numbers, he has brought a higher level of play to the point guard position than the Jazz have had in a long, long while.

Since John. Deron wasn't the all-around stud that Hill is. He was a go to guy, all-star, and leader though


He wants the ball in important moments and has been successful in those situations.

debatable

[QUOTE] there is a sense of

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/13/utah-jazz-player-awards-at-the-halfway-point/

[QUOTE]If we

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671108/Jazz-blow-out-Pistons-110-77.html

not one mention of Gobert or anyone else! :no:

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671121/George-Hills-biggest-critic-himself-believes-he-still-needs-to-improve.html


Even though it seems Hill's re-entry into the rotation after his medical issues has been seamless on three separate occasions this year, the 30-year-old point guard's game isn't where he'd like it to be yet.

He hadn't looked right but last night it appeared to be coming together again

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4818279-155/utah-jazz-notes-quin-snyder-tells


Exum had a basket off a nice drive to the paint, and also had a steal and assist. The sample size may have been small, but he looked more confident than he had recently.

He looked a lot better and his numbers were good but he still doesn't look ready to be out there. Love to see him go to the D-league and dominate first. Neto should be playing.


The stigma of being a lottery pick in the D-League lingered on social media

Who cares? Sucking in the NBA in your third year is worse.


Exum has been staying after practice is finished this week to work with coaches on his shooting form.

No matter how well he plays it will be tough to have him out there if he can't hit an open shot. At least he made a couple of lay-ups for a change


Jazz forward Gordon Hayward has been having a career season, and moving up the franchise history charts as well. Hayward has 1,625 assists with Utah, and with three assists on Friday passed Darrell Griffith for ninth on the team's all-time list.

Last night they were trying to say Hayward is high on their all-time lists because free agents have always left them. Who are these people that didn't want to be in Utah? Jazz let some leave yes. Can't think of that many that left because they didn't like it here though.

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42867675&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-pistons


So what was the key this year? Well, probably the biggest one was that their primary point guards weren't Trey Burke and Raul Neto, and were instead George Hill and Dante Exum.

Not seeing Exum as better than Neto at either end


A 3-point heavy offense will have stretches like that, where shots aren't falling and it looks really ugly.

Especially when you continue to play guys that have mostly sucked


And Hood's shooting was just ridiculous. 7-8 from downtown, and on some tough looks?

mostly wide open. When he's hot it doesn't matter. Feast or famine


Anyway, Snyder's said before that the primary thing he looks at when deciding who will play backup PG minutes is who is playing the better defense on the ball. Tonight, that was Exum,

Than why has Neto not played?

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Bolomboy was back. Came off the bench. He and Wallace had nice games again.

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/14/utah-jazz-will-alec-burks-new-backup-point-guard/


Before the preseason, the Jazz roster was cluttered with talent, but one thing seemed for certain; Hill and Exum would split most, if not all the minutes at point guard.

why did this seem certain after the way Mack played and the fact that Exum was horrible offensively as a rookie and coming off ACL surgery?

[QUOTE]Unlike Dante

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/14/utah-jazz-rodney-hood-finally-turned-corner/

[QUOTE] After averaging 16.3 points per game during the month of November and getting fans hot and bothered over his potential emergence as one of the league

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671138/Gordon-Hayward-has-a-choice-and-a-chance-to-finish-what-he-started-in-Utah.html


Someday, hopefully, Hayward will have his chance to follow suit and join "The Statues" in his rightful place among the franchise's all-time greats.

He's not one of the all0time greats. There will be no statue. :wtf:

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Looked bad for Rodney. :cry:

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Favors and Burks looked great though! :cheers:

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Exum got benched for Neto. Good to see him not sticking with guys that aren't doing it. Was nice to see Johnson rest too!

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Snyder says hyperextension. May have dodged a bullet! :D

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765692112/Utah-Jazz-end-game-on-17-5-run-to-top-Orlando.html


Boris Diaw had a strange line: 2 of 8 (0 for 3 from the 3-point line) and had a team-high plus-21 in the +/-.


Thought he looked great n the first half. Too inconistent like most of their guys


Dante Exum had just 2 points in 8 minutes while committing 3 fouls.

Dante is back, who needs the D-league!


Magic: Elfrid Payton nearly had a triple-double: 28 points, 9 rebounds and 9 assists.

He killed them. Hill struggled on the back to back. Not quite back still I guess. Neto gave them some solid minutes out of street clothes. :applause:

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671156/Rodney-Hood-hurts-knee-as-Utah-Jazz-pick-up-a-bittersweet-win-over-Magic.html


"I seen him walk, so that's a good sign."

hopefully


The injury-plagued Jazz, who've been healthy on the whole for about a week

Actually not because Bolomboy was hurt during most of that though it's barely been mentioned.


Joe Ingles then clinched the victory with back-to-back 3-pointers after subbing in for Hood.

Maybe Ingles enters the starting line-up now and stays there where I think he belongs. Hood and Burks leading the bench charge.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4818147-155/utah-jazz-derrick-favors-big-dunk


"It's been a process for me, especially with the injury," Favors said. "I had gotten to a point where I lost explosiveness, but it's definitely starting to come back."

I wan't sure he'd ever be the same but he looked like his old self last night. Burks also back. Hopefully Hood will be alright! Maybe an extension coming after all?

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http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2017/01/14/emptying-the-noggin-hayward-and-gobert-continue-to-amaze/


Two years ago the Jazz played the Magic and he played 11 minutes. It still has not been 2 years since the Enes Kanter trade. To make this jump in a span of two years is unthinkable.

He'd emerged about a month earlier so the fact that he played 11 minutes was a joke!

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/14/14277060/utah-jazz-114-orlando-magic-107-game-recap-rodney-hood-elfrid-payton-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert

[QUOTE]Utah

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-news-2/2017/1/14/14277026/utah-jazz-guard-rodney-hood-hyper-extends-right-knee-in-fourth-quarter-against-orlando-magic


Hood is what makes this good Utah Jazz team potentially great. His ability to heat up and hit late game threes has saved this team countless times over his abbreviated three year career.

You're overrating him. He's potentially another streaky scorer ideally off the bench like Burks.

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/14/rudy-gobert-utah-jazz-edge-out-orlando-magic/


Rodney Hood, who had come on recently after a rough stretch of games, hyperextended his knee on a drive attempt after stepping on the foot of Jodie Meeks.

didn't se him step on a foot but only watched it once. That was enough. Left the room with him on the floor screaming in agony


If Hood is forced to miss significant time, Burks may need to step back into his old role as starting shooting guard once he can handle more minutes.

Ingles though Snyder might go with his boy Johnson. I'm worried about you his biggest fan though

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http://www.sltrib.com/blogs/jazznotes/4823451-155/utah-jazz-rodney-hood-diagnosed-with

[QUOTE]Snyder can go a few ways to fill the void in the starting lineup. He can go with Joe Ingles, who has played extremely well this season off the bench. He could go to Alec Burks, who is still making his way back to full speed within the rotation. He could go to Joe Johnson, or even young guard Dant

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2017/1/15/14278748/nba-allstar-2017-utah-jazz-rodney-hood-injury-gordon-hayward-alec-burks-joe-johnson-joe-ingles-exum

[QUOTE]There

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Rodney Hood has a bone bruise from what I've heard. Not bad, my first reaction was that he tore his ACL.
And Derrick did look better today, he needs to really get up more shots against the inferior competition that the Jazz are going to face for the next month to get back into shape. Also, Dante has not been good at all. I wouldn't really say that it's the refs fault, he just straight up fouls whoever he's guarding and gets into foul trouble. To his credit, he didn't do that too much the last two games, but his "best" game of the season so far against Detroit yielded 4 points and 4 assists. Hopefully Alec gets some run at PG with Ingles getting more SG minutes in Hood's absence, if Hood continues to be streaky we might need Alec more than I thought

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Rodney Hood has a bone bruise from what I've heard. Not bad, my first reaction was that he tore his ACL.
And Derrick did look better today, he needs to really get up more shots against the inferior competition that the Jazz are going to face for the next month to get back into shape. Also, Dante has not been good at all. I wouldn't really say that it's the refs fault, he just straight up fouls whoever he's guarding and gets into foul trouble. To his credit, he didn't do that too much the last two games, but his "best" game of the season so far against Detroit yielded 4 points and 4 assists. Hopefully Alec gets some run at PG with Ingles getting more SG minutes in Hood's absence, if Hood continues to be streaky we might need Alec more than I thought

Despite Exum's stats against Detroit and looking decent he still doesn't look like he belongs on an NBA floor for a top team.

Not sure Alec at the one is the answer either. Rather see Neto. Hayward and Ingles taking the back-up PF minutes and Johnson, Diaw and Lyles sitting which gives plenty of minutes to everyone that hasn't sucked.

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671190/Day-of-rest-More-coming-for-Utah-Jazz-players.html

[QUOTE] we have confidence in our bench, and we should. It

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http://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2017/1/15/14174168/nba-draft-2017-utah-jazz-weber-state-joel-bolomboy-russell-westbrook-jimmer-fredette-jeremy-senglin

[QUOTE]They also own the Golden State Warriors

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/15/has-the-utah-jazz-bench-lived-up-to-expectations/


PROJECTED BENCH: Dante Exum, Alec Burks, Joe Johnson, Trey Lyles, Boris Diaw

They've all been very inconsistent at best except Alec in his limited time and I would expect offensively at least for him to get it done because he has proven it and isn't over hill or too young like the others here

[QUOTE]But the key to it all could be Boris Diaw. If he

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Bolomboy had a pretty good game. Wallace was ok. Didn't shoot well

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[QUOTE]Jerry Zgoda: Toronto

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2683750-nba-player-power-rankings-brs-top-30-centers-at-the-halfway-point/page/29


Plus, he's facing 1.7 more attempts per contest in that area than anyone else

wonder why that is? Jazz play at the slowest pace and people try t avoid Rudy it seems most of the time. I guess it's because he gets to more shots with his quickness?

He's outplayed Cousins so the article is a joke anyway

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http://www.sltrib.com/blogs/jazznotes/4826523-155/jazz-update-with-rodney-hood-out

[QUOTE]Joe Ingles

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https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2017/01/16/these-weeks-in-the-utah-jazz/

[QUOTE]If he has a bad game against Golden State without George Hill and Rodney Hood, like, at some point we gotta recognize what Gordon

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/16/14285400/utah-jazz-vs-phoenix-suns-game-preview-rudy-gobert-devin-booker-gordon-hayward-earl-watson-bledsoe


Quin has a better basketball mind overall, more experience and, well, a better team.

Why does he have a better mind? Watson played in the league for some good coaches and used to talk to Wooden at UCLA about the game. Snyder has better players.


this should be a tough matchup for both guards.

especially after the game Payton had against George

[QUOTE]TJ Warren is not a bright spot on the Suns

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/16/utah-jazz-answers-to-10-big-questions-at-midseason/


I’m giving them an A- grade.

b -/c +


Who’s the best player on the team to this point?

Rudy


It’s Gordon Hayward, who continues to be the straw that stirs the Jazz drink.

Probably one of the worst teams in the league still without Rudy though Hill might make them pretty competitive


What I didn’t expect was for Hill to come in and make this his team almost immediately.

I didn't think he'd be as good as he's been so yes I agree here


The second thing to watch, and one that is difficult to gauge, is how Western Conference coaches will view good players on bad or underperforming teams, i.e. Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and Damian Lillard. I think all three are proven All-Stars.

Cousins isn't. I don't care what his numbers are


Will Hayward and/or Gobert make the All-Star roster?

Gobert should and I think players, chaches and media all know it. Media thinks Hayward is.


If Burks is going to infringe on anyone’s minutes, I would hope that its one of the back-up point guards and not Ingles.

Everyone talked about how flexible the team is so why does it have to be a pg when the players that have performed the worst are Joe Johnson, Diaw and Lyles. Ingles and Hayward can play the 4 and I see no reason why Hood couldn't as long as Gobert is around.


Barring some kind of move to shake up the backcourt at the trade deadline, minutes will continue to be hard to come by.

It could start to click for him at some point.


I would like to see him get some run in the D-League.

Seems obvious even if it was just a game to show he can play at that level. Not sure he's an NBA player.


Should he? Absolutely. For my money, he changes the game defensively more than any player in the league

not sure I'd go that far. Draymond had the same defensive rating not long ago


I’m pretty confident in picking the Jazz to win a series with Russell Westbrook and the Oklahoma City Thunder. However, the L.A. Clippers and Memphis Grizzlies are harder.

I, for one, prefer the latter, but either squad would be a tough out.

You forgot Houston. Home court against the Thunder would look the best right now but they have cap space to improve before April!

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/16/utah-jazz-phoenix-suns-keys-game/2/

[QUOTE]Key Match-up

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JJ may have saved that one. Hayward and Hill were shooting awfully while Booker and Blesdoe were the opposite. Good games from Gobert and Diaw too.

Hopefully Hill didn't turn his ankle too badly.

[WayOfWad3]

Wow, Jazz love to play down to their competition. Gobert :bowdown:

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JJ may have saved that one. Hayward and Hill were shooting awfully while Booker and Blesdoe were the opposite. Good games from Gobert and Diaw too.

Hopefully Hill didn't turn his ankle too badly.
It didn't look too bad to me. Turned ankles always suck (I've turned mine dozens of times) but I think he MIGHT miss a game at most

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Should be less than the thumb and toe. Might be more like the concussion/lip which seem to be affecting his play still.

Diaw and Johnson are starting to show a heart beat anyway.

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http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2017/01/17/emptying-the-noggin-brilliant-plays-lead-to-close-win-for-jazz/

[QUOTE]Quin Snyder tried a lot of things tonight. His first subs were Dante, Alec and Trey and that didn

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42899670&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-suns


Exum wasn't quick enough to stay with Bledsoe or Tyler Ulis

That's supposed to be one his strong points so that's worrisome.


Raul Neto, on the other hand, played 11 minutes after Exum struggled, and played significantly better defense.

What's new? It's a joke he was at the end of the bench most of the year and recently in street clothes! How about play Gobert-lite if defense is a worry?:confusedshrug:

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/16/14292594/utah-jazz-106-phoenix-suns-101-game-recap-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert-devin-booker-eric-bledsoe

[QUOTE]Burks and Neto did not have their best games of the season, but Neto continues to attack and be opportunistic with his layups. He

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http://www.sltrib.com/home/4830417-155/monson-jazzs-aggressive-body-language-says


Guys like Gordon Hayward and Rudy Gobert lead the way in body language that not only communicates improvement
I feel like only Rudy is exuding that kind of body language. Particularly in clutch situations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_vwsGh6wk
Don't get me wrong I love Hayward, but Gobert shows much more emotion than anybody else. Gordon shows more aggressiveness perhaps. Hill doesn't show emotion, Rodney Hood can, Hayward/Favors/Diaw/Burks don't, and Lyles doesn't anymore. Rudy just has much more passion for the game.

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671248/Hint-to-NBA-bigwigs-Here-comes-a-Jazz-All-Star.html

[QUOTE]Considering Deron Williams was the last Jazz All-Star, comparisons are natural. Hayward has roughly the same scoring average, twice the rebounds and half the assists that Williams did at his best.

In a sense, Hayward is another D-Will. Williams was a gifted player who couldn

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http://www.sltrib.com/home/4830417-155/monson-jazzs-aggressive-body-language-says


I feel like only Rudy is exuding that kind of body language. Particularly in clutch situations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_vwsGh6wk
Don't get me wrong I love Hayward, but Gobert shows much more emotion than anybody else. Gordon shows more aggressiveness perhaps. Hill doesn't show emotion, Rodney Hood can, Hayward/Favors/Diaw/Burks don't, and Lyles doesn't anymore. Rudy just has much more passion for the game.

agreed

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42900320&nid=304&title=injuries-inconsistent-play-may-have-unforeseen-benefit-for-jazz


Of the Jazz five regular starters, only Rudy Gobert has appeared in all 43 games. Of Utah's regular 15-man roster, only Gobert, Joe Ingles, Trey Lyles, Joe Johnson and Shelvin Mack have been available for every game this season.

And only Ingles and Rudy deserved to play all of them


Between Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors, George Hill and Rodney Hood, the non-Gobert starters have missed a combined 52 games. That number is going to climb with Hood potentially missing the next several weeks with a hyperextended knee he suffered Saturday night against Orlando.

several weeks? It's listed as day to day and 1 to 2 weeks

[QUOTE]Hayward will demand a max contract because he may be the top truly available free-agent target this offseason and will command more than $30 million a year this summer. Hill will likely look for a similar payday, which could hamstring the Jazz

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4829812-155/utah-jazz-mailbag-gobert-vs-eaton


But that presents a problem when the other team has a good shooting big man as the pick setter, like Boston with Al Horford or Memphis with Marc Gasol.

Now most bigs are shooting 3's. Hill will get better. He hasn't looked right since he came back from the head injury


Exum's lost year was a developmental year for he and the Jazz. He came back to a team that had passed the developmental stage, but he's still in the developmental stage. That means the Jazz are trying to win at all costs,

Yet Exum, Lyles and others not getting the job done continue to play


That means he's not getting as much leeway to play through mistakes, unlike his rookie year or what would have happened last season.

Last year they should have been all in after the finished as the 6th best team the year before


And in the NBA, the busy schedule makes it extremely difficult to improve during the season.

Unless you go down to the D-league. Guys improve all the time during the season though


he's their guy for the future

He is? He's a free agent after next year.


Gobert gets a ton of attention from local media. And he gets a lot of attention from the national media as well.

Not seeing it.


who is the more impactful defensive player, Rudy Gobert or Mark Eaton.

Eaton sucked.


He's going to play and contribute, especially now that Rodney Hood is out for a few weeks.

You said he was day to day?

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4830417-155/monson-jazzs-aggressive-body-language-says

[QUOTE]Remember when Deron Williams threw a ball at Hayward in the middle of a game during his rookie season and yelled at him like a little puppy for not knowing the offense? If anyone now dared do that to Hayward, he'd get a death stare

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/17/joe-johnsons-big-three-shows-utah-jazz-brought-him-to-slc/


This is where acquiring Johnson, Hill and Diaw was a brilliant series of moves by Jazz GM Dennis Lindsey.

Hill yes. The other two have left a lot to be desired


He has been very productive in his first season with the Jazz, whether he is starting, or coming off the bench.

Johnson is averaging 8.3 points in 22.2 minutes per game on the season. Not too shabby for a 35-year-old.

I wouldn't call that very productive especially for 22 million

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/17/utah-jazz-gordon-hayward-and-rudy-gobert-all-star-potential/


Rudy Gobert is the bigger surprise. After validating the Enes Kanter trade and leading the Jazz to the best defense in the league two years ago, he has battled injuries and not dominated as much as he had been expected to.

What is surprising about it? It's what I expected last year from him. He battled one injury. When did he not dominate?

[QUOTE] If it

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Clippers point guard Chris Paul will need surgery to repair a torn ligament in his left thumb, likely forcing him out for the next six to eight weeks.

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[QUOTE]Steve Kyler: Narrative from teams trying to get Wolves to engage: Rubio, Shabazz Muhammad and Adrien Payne the pieces Wolves would move.

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[QUOTE]

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4834421-155/utah-jazz-notes-search-for-backup


Now that George Hill is healthly

or was


Exum played great against the Pistons

great?

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42901876&nid=304&title=jazz-rolling-in-good-times
[QUOTE]
Hayward has emerged as the team

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2017/1/18/14272472/nba-all-star-2017-utah-jazz-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert-deserving


The fact that he was, until recently, #1 in both ORtg AND DRtg is downright absurd

Absurd that everyone is so obsessed with the all-star game when those numbers look like an MVP to me


remember Karl Malone being snubbed, and how unstoppable he was afterwards?

remember him being one of the greats before and after

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/17/despite-adding-george-hill-utah-jazz-still-point-guard-issues/


Aside from injuries, if asked what was the number one reason the Utah Jazz missed the playoffs last season,

the coach and GM not being all in


After having to cope with the likes of Mack, Neto and Burke, the addition of Hill and the return of Exum were bound to be a heaven-sent.

Exum was one of the worst offensive players ever as a rookie and while looking better this year he still can't finish or his an open 3. Neto plays both ends so quit already please!


Among the 1,033 w/ at least as many minutes as Dante Exum in their first 2 yrs, Exum ranks 1,033rd in PER. But... I STILL BELIEVE

Believe what? That he'll be the Jazz's best player because of where he was picked? Or that he won't be a complete bust and can contribute the rotation someday?


it was frustrating to not have a reliable back-up.

Neto is certainly reliable and a good fit despite his lack of elite length

[QUOTE]Surprising though it may be, Neto could very well be the one who ends up winning the back-up spot as he

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671346/Hayward-and-Goberts-improvement-at-free-throw-line-a-boon-to-Jazz.html

[QUOTE]The result was inconsistency at the line.


Hayward

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/18/utah-jazz-george-hill-slump-coming-back-earth/

[QUOTE]He also tweaked his ankle in Monday

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Earl K. Sneed: Rick Carlisle says Andrew Bogut (right hamstring strain) will not play tonight in Miami or tomorrow night at home vs. Utah (http://*********.com/social/).

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42901876&nid=304&title=jazz-rolling-in-good-times


Lock? Rudy is #1 in O and D too.



He looks like the lock to me.



Debatable. Rudy will probably have to miss time to really know and no one wants that.


He's a huge upgrade but Neto and Mack were both quality.



than they need to go. Need consistent contributers especially for 20 million


debatable. Jazz have a lot to prove with ahlf a season to go
Rudy may be better at Defense but you have to admit that Hayward is better on offense. Rudy tout's a high field goal percentage, but Hayward is the better passer and shooter, not to mention ball handler.
Rudy may look like a lock to you and he is better and more deserving, but due to the media and Hayward being here longer he is more of an all-star lock than Rudy. Unfair? Yes, but that's the situation we find ourselves in.
And what happened to Shelvin Mack? He played great to start the year but as Hill has slowly gotten healthier, Mack's just fallen off a cliff and is now playing at Dante Exum's level. Neto needs to get more run since the other two aren't doing so hot.

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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Earl K. Sneed: Rick Carlisle says Andrew Bogut (right hamstring strain) will not play tonight in Miami or tomorrow night at home vs. Utah (http://*********.com/social/).

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http://www.nba.com/reportcard/midseason/2017/jazz


Dante Exum's expected development has been hampered by injuries.

Always nice when the people writing articles know what they are talking about. :wtf:


Shelvin Mack and Joe Johnson have also provided quality depth.

debatable. Outside of Ingles they have all been very inconsistent


For now, the Jazz are balancing a win-now approach with keeping an eye on their future.

hope one day they will be all in

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Rudy may be better at Defense but you have to admit that Hayward is better on offense. Rudy tout's a high field goal percentage, but Hayward is the better passer and shooter, not to mention ball handler.
Rudy may look like a lock to you and he is better and more deserving, but due to the media and Hayward being here longer he is more of an all-star lock than Rudy. Unfair? Yes, but that's the situation we find ourselves in.
And what happened to Shelvin Mack? He played great to start the year but as Hill has slowly gotten healthier, Mack's just fallen off a cliff and is now playing at Dante Exum's level. Neto needs to get more run since the other two aren't doing so hot.
I'd say it's debatable which is better offensively since Rudy was leading in offensive rating and has been towards the top of the league in several offensive categories all year. Efficiency matters as do the screens he's setting to allow Hayward and others to score and the offensive boards that give the team more opportunites to score. He certainly needs the ball a lot more.

The media only votes on the starters. Hard to imagine any coach not voting for Gobert. Every coach and player in the league is very familiar with what he brings to the table. Hayward being here longer should have nothing to do with it but it might. The coaches like Hayward too but there's a lot of competition and I certainly don't see him as the lock that Rudy is but the coaches picks have always left a lot to be desired as well. There's always commissioner's picks too which usually aren't great either.

Mack never has looked as good as last year for some reason? Maybe he just played out of his head and is now back to a 3rd string level pg?

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2687273-ranking-the-most-underrated-2017-nba-all-star-game-candidates



That's the only knock on this rising star

and the fact that he doesn't carry a team like all-stars do

[QUOTE]Hayward plays in a Western Conference teeming with dominant forwards. It's easy to lose track of him in discussions that include Kevin Durant (http://bleacherreport.com/kevin-durant), Kawhi Leonard and Green.

But that doesn't make overlooking him OK. He belongs in the same breath as those other dudes

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I'd say it's debatable which is better offensively since Rudy was leading in offensive rating and has been towards the top of the league in several offensive categories all year. Efficiency matters as do the screens he's setting to allow Hayward and others to score and the offensive boards that give the team more opportunites to score. He certainly needs the ball a lot more.

The media only votes on the starters. Hard to imagine any coach not voting for Gobert. Every coach and player in the league is very familiar with what he brings to the table. Hayward being here longer should have nothing to do with it but it might. The coaches like Hayward too but there's a lot of competition and I certainly don't see him as the lock that Rudy is but the coaches picks have always left a lot to be desired as well. There's always commissioner's picks too which usually aren't great either.

Mack never has looked as good as last year for some reason? Maybe he just played out of his head and is now back to a 3rd string level pg?
I'll give you that, Rudy has become incredibly good with screens, and that's actually the biggest reason the Jazz have had more success from 3 this year, because teams have to watch his roll to the basket and leave shooters open. And I'm sure you've noticed but Rudy has gotten VERY good with his left hand. He had about 4 or 5 lefty layups against the Magic I believe. Rudy just needs a better postgame (which he's developing) and he'll be even more dangerous than he currently is.
And yeah coaches are going to vote for the reserves, which sadly means that Hayward and Gobert will be competing against eachother for those coaching votes. I've watched a lot of NBATV/ESPN/David Locke and all those guys are pointing to Hayward being the more likely pick. This one guy on Bleacher Report said otherwise though so it isn't universal. I'd love for Gobert to make it though, just to play defense and ruin peoples' days.
As for Mack, I imagine he feels a supreme need to perform now that Hill and Burks are back and minutes are going to be hard to come by. He gets nervous and his mistakes that he already makes just become that much more common. Neto on the other hand is ready to play hard and do the right thing for every minute he gets and deserves a bigger chance

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http://www.slcdunk.com/research-statistics-analytics/2017/1/19/14315562/utan-jazz-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert-george-hill-clutch-statistics


Playoff aspirations once again dashed, you had to wonder what went wrong.

Nothing to wonder about. The front office and coach didn't act like they wanted to make the playoffs. Still seeing it this year with Withey and Neto on the bench while others that are at best very inconsistent continue to play for whatever reason.

[QUOTE]Joe Johnson (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21564/joe-johnson) does what he

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I'll give you that, Rudy has become incredibly good with screens, and that's actually the biggest reason the Jazz have had more success from 3 this year, because teams have to watch his roll to the basket and leave shooters open. And I'm sure you've noticed but Rudy has gotten VERY good with his left hand. He had about 4 or 5 lefty layups against the Magic I believe. Rudy just needs a better postgame (which he's developing) and he'll be even more dangerous than he currently is.
And yeah coaches are going to vote for the reserves, which sadly means that Hayward and Gobert will be competing against eachother for those coaching votes. I've watched a lot of NBATV/ESPN/David Locke and all those guys are pointing to Hayward being the more likely pick. This one guy on Bleacher Report said otherwise though so it isn't universal. I'd love for Gobert to make it though, just to play defense and ruin peoples' days.
As for Mack, I imagine he feels a supreme need to perform now that Hill and Burks are back and minutes are going to be hard to come by. He gets nervous and his mistakes that he already makes just become that much more common. Neto on the other hand is ready to play hard and do the right thing for every minute he gets and deserves a bigger chance

Rudy's lefty hook close to the basket looked good early in the year. Like to see more of it.

Neto plays with a lot of heart. He brings energy that is missed with Booker and Johnson gone. He is the best defender and 3 point shooter so he makes more sense in the role I think

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Jody Genessy: [URL="http://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4840443-155/jazz-notes-rodney-hood-to-miss


The Jazz rested forward Joe Johnson against the Orlando Magic and saw him bounce back with a 15-point game against the Suns.


"We got some dividends for that," Snyder said. "I thought he came with more life against Phoenix than he's had for a little bit."


Does he play enough to be tired?


Point guard George Hill tweaked his ankle in Tuesday's win at Phoenix but said Thursday that he feels fine and expects to play Friday in Dallas.

:cheers:

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[QUOTE]With Tony Parker a late scratch, Dejounte Murray threw in 24 points in his third career start, making him the youngest player in Spurs history to score as many (http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-rookie-provides-glimpse-of-the-future-and-10870795.php).

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http://saltcityhoops.com/sc7jan1917/


Weirdly, the Jazz still seem a bit shy about unleashing both Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors in clutch situations2 (http://saltcityhoops.com/sc7jan1917/#note-2). Favors has played around eight clutch minutes all year. Which is odd considering that the Jazz won six of the seven games where Favors played while it was close late.

Favors has to show consistency first. He looked like his old self two games ago but not that great again last game. Favors might be on his way out.

[QUOTE]That said, nobody

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/19/utah-jazz-get-love-star-voting-media-players/

[QUOTE]There was clearly a sizeable contingent of players with an

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[QUOTE]Given Gay

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[QUOTE][URL="http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4914/bulls-eyeing-bosh-miami-moving-dragic-heres-the-latest-buzz"]Tucker and out-of-favor guard Brandon Knight are widely regarded as the most

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http://www.si.com/nba/2017/01/19/nba-all-star-game-reserves-east-west-stephen-curry-isaiah-thomas



(http://www.si.com/nba/2017/01/19/golden-state-warriors-oklahoma-city-thunder-kevin-durant-russell-westbrook)
[QUOTE]Unlike similar defensive-minded centers who have been All-Star snubs in the past

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http://www.si.com/nba/2017/01/19/nba-best-contracts-isaiah-thomas-lebron-james-jimmy-butler-giannis-antetokounmpo

[QUOTE]The only drag in Hayward

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http://www.slcdunk.com/nba-trades-and-deadline/2017/1/20/14330692/nba-trade-deadline-2017-utah-jazz-derrick-favors-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert


Because of his talent and continued improvement, Favors will garner a lot of attention and almost certainly some max type offers when his contract is up.

He's showing decline at the moment and could be out of the league when his contract is up if he doesn't show he can play again.

[QUOTE]And it

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2017/1/20/14335432/utah-jazz-inflategate-deflategate-nba-lucky-numbers


Joel Bolomboy



I'd say incomplete or passing because at least he's looked good in the D-league unlike a couple other guys. He still looks too thin for the league to me but I'd like to see him get a chance. He may be the guy next to Rudy in the coming years and might be able to help them this year because the guys playing have been inconsistent.



Alec Burks



looks back to me. Just needs minutes
[QUOTE]

he

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How good can he get? Best 3 game stretch of his career capped off with his most dominating performance yet! :bowdown:

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Within 4 of Houston. Watch out! Spurs are only 6 up but I don't see them losing many. I can see Houston dropping

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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=304&sid=42939747&title=gobert-27-points-25-rebounds-in-jazz-112-107-ot-win-at-mavs


That rebound by Gobert came after a missed 3-pointer by J.J. Barea, who aggravated a left calf issue on the shot. He was playing in only his 18th game and now will miss some more.

That was big. Barea was killing them. I was thinking Barea would be a good one for Neto to watch film on. He could be a similar type of pest with a better shot and more size.

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42940136&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-mavericks


I've been asking around recently: besides Gobert, what's the Jazz's biggest defensive asset? Hayward told me that the the Jazz's perimeter length was maybe the biggest: all of the Jazz wings are big and long, and George Hill's wingspan is wing-like too.

Hayward and Hood aren't long for their height. Not sure about Johnson. He's seemed better defensively than I expected him to be


And, as a side note, Diaw messed up badly on that play. Why'd he leave Seth Curry here (http://on.nba.com/2jJdt0O), with the Jazz up 3?)

Because he's old and fat and shouldn't be playing?


So anyway, being in the bonus early in a quarter is, well, a bonus, but it's not a big one. In general, it seems like referees swallow their whistles a little if they know ticky-tack fouls will send a team to the line.

Which is a joke. Should call things the same no matter what or who. I'm all for no harm no foul but if it affects the play call it or at least be consistent.

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http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2017/01/20/emptying-the-noggin-remarkable-rudy-carries-jazz-to-overtime-win/



The Jazz back up point guards are struggling and Quin Snyder closed the game after George Hill fouled out with Hayward, Hood, Ingles, Diaw and Gobert.

I thought Neto gave them some good minutes despite the fouls. Needs to get his 3 back on line since they mostly spot him up when he's in despite his ability to make plays.


I love the idea of putting my 5 best players on the floor and letting them figure it out. Without Hood, Hayward is initiating a large part of the offense late in games so you can play without a traditional point guard.

Can work at times but as we saw last year they are generally better with a pg especially if Hill is available

[QUOTE]JJ Barea was a pain in George Hill

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/20/14342252/utah-jazz-vs-dallas-mavericks-game-preview-dirk-nowitzki-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert


he probably made it clear that he didn't want to be in Utah anymore

doubt it

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/20/14339302/utah-vs-dallas-overtone-dallas-game-preview-deron-williams-devin-harris
[QUOTE]
Devin Harris. I

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/20/14344154/utah-jazz-112-dallas-mavericks-107-ot-game-recap-rudy-gobert-gordon-hayward-dirk-nowitzki-deron


Utah seems to be figuring out how to stay in road games - and possibly win them. (Something a number of Jerry Sloan (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/98725/jerry-sloan) teams never figured out, by the way.)

Done that the past couple years. When will the start dominating at home is the question?


If he continues to play like this he could, very well, end up being an All-NBA player at the end of the season. Nay, he SHOULD be.


First team. Who's better? Cousins? :roll:

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[quote]there

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/20/which-players-could-the-utah-jazz-most-afford-to-trade/


typically the hype is more prolific and outlandish than the actual deals that occur.
This year is different with 1/3 of the teams still under the cap and only one paying the tax. A lot of money to spend still. It will be crazy!


all has appeared rather quiet on the Utah Jazz front as little mention has been made of the team making any sort of move prior to the trade deadline.
Always quiet on the Jazz front. They will be active I'm sure. Too m uch flexibility and reasons not to be.

[quote]it wouldn

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Tim MacMahon: [URL="http://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/822667296825020416"]George Hill on his feelings about facing the Pacers tomorrow night for the first time since being traded:

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Bolomboy and Wallace sucked yesterday on national tv

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Aaron Falk: I

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http://www.slcdunk.com/research-statistics-analytics/2017/1/21/14346118/nba-free-agency-playoffs-utah-jazz-dennis-lindsey-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert-george-hill-boris-diaw

[QUOTE]This year the Utah Jazz are not coached by a Hall of Famer (though we do very much love Quin Snyder (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/111859/quin-snyder) here when he

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4844677-155/utah-jazz-notes-alec-burks-breaks


Alec Burks doesn't think his conditioning and his timing is back to peak form. He also thinks he has ways to go defensively
Defense is what will dictate his time I imagine. He appears to working hard at that end. Maybe he'll start putting it all together like Ingles has. He certainly has the length and athletic ability too do it. He could start if does. He appears to be spotting up more from 3 and not looking to drive every time too which I'm sure they love.

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[QUOTE]"He settles our group," Snyder said of Neto. "

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671597/Forgotten-Raul-Neto-is-suddenly-getting-backup-point-guard-minutes-behind-Hill.html

[QUOTE]Neto didn

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42950109&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-pacers


It wasn't for long, but he also played a couple of minutes at the point guard position. In that stretch, the Jazz played with four wings at a time, and it worked pretty well.

3 to 4 wings with Rudy seems to make the most sense to me with their problems at PF that no one is talking about! Diaw did have a good game and Favors put up alright numbers but he still doesn't look right. Lyles and Johnson sucked again!


Jazz have won six in a row now, and six straight at home.


need to dominate at home again

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http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2017/01/21/emptying-the-noggin-george-hill-sticks-it-to-pacers/
[QUOTE]
Thurl Bailey pointed out on the broadcast that you almost never see him take a bad shot. He plays completely in the team concept and has the team

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/21/14349158/utah-jazz-109-indiana-pacers-100-game-recap-george-hill-paul-george-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert

[QUOTE]the other team doesn

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/22/utah-jazz-george-hill-rocks-indiana-pacers/


To put it bluntly, the hometown hero was done dirty by Indy prez Larry Bird.

looks like the best thing that's ever happened to him to me. Might have been an all-star if not for the injuries

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Thunder center Steven Adams went through non-contact drills on Sunday in Oklahoma City, but a return against Utah on Monday is still uncertain. [URL="http://newsok.com/steven-adams-status-still-uncertain-for-thunder-jazz-on-monday/article/5535227?custom_click=rss"]Coach Billy Donovan said Adams, who is in the NBA

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Bolomboy with another good game. Wallace also with a good game in limited minutes. I guess trying to give some other guys a look because it was the showcase?

Been noticing Wallace is similar to Exum. Almost as long. Needs to work on finishing and shooting from distance. Not as quick but a better handle. Exum may be expendable. He will be expensive next year and Wallace will come a lot cheaper.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/buy-sell-or-stand-pat-what-each-team-should-do-before-the-nba-trade-deadline/


No reason to mess with the success they are having by making a trade.

Plenty of reasons. Can they beat the Warriors, Spurs or Cavs in a series?

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http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4924/marc-steins-picks-for-nba-all-star-reserves


Gordon Hayward (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4249/gordon-hayward) is the free agent-to-be who'll soon be in great demand, but Gobert just might be Utah's most influential player thanks to his offensive improvement.

has been for two years but thanks for playing

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671628/Jazzs-improved-depth-should-help-team-during-busy-stretch-of-games.html

[QUOTE]Derrick Favors

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671597/Forgotten-Raul-Neto-is-suddenly-getting-backup-point-guard-minutes-behind-Hill.html


He's been one of the better free-throw shooting big men in the league the entire season.

Not one of the worst. Let's not get carried away.


He signed a lucrative contract extension before the season that seems like a bargain three months later.

might end up wishing they'd given him 5 years though if he leaves


Gobert isn't traditional and will never be offensively. The Jazz won't be able to throw him the ball and let him create offense.

don't count on it. He's talented and growing in confidence. I wouldn't put anything past the guy

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4844089-155/salt-lake-city-stars-chasing-a


Paige and Bolomboy are unusual cases, reflecting how the Jazz intend to use the Stars in more of a pro baseball development model than the traditional NBA approach.

Why mention Paige at all when he is no longer the property of the Jazz by Wallace is? Next year the NBA and D-league will be a lot better because of the new CBA. Can have 17 on the roster and 4 down with the Stars. They will get paid less down there so there's no reason to have them with the big club anymore unless they deserve to be in the rotation. The level of the D-league should go up greatly as will the NBA without kids taking the spots of vets until they earn it! :applause:


That mathematical formula helps explain why forward J.J. O'Brien, who received a 10-day deal with the Jazz last season, is willing to play for the Stars.

He's yet to impress me. The Santa Cruz announcer is a big fan though!


That mathematical formula helps explain why forward J.J. O'Brien, who received a 10-day deal with the Jazz last season, is willing to play for the Stars.

they did it so they will use the team which they didn't in Boise. Paige can be signed by anyone so he's not anymore important than the other 9 guys that aren't Wallace, Bolomboy and the Clipps pick


So when Bolomboy is with the Stars, the Jazz want him to make "winning plays," Taylor said, not merely compile big numbers.

They have won most of them with Wallace an/or Bolomboy. Love to see Lyles go down and show he can lead the team to wins or even the Golden Child. :confusedshrug:


The players live in apartments downtown, motivated by the view of Vivint Smart Home Arena. "Big picture," Paige said, "you're always thinking about where you want to be."

Interesting. You'd think you'd want them closer to where they play and practice. Could we forget Paige already? Wallace will likely be on the Jazz next season. Paige will likely go abroad.

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http://www.nba.com/jazz/?tmd=1

big announcement/press conference at 1:30

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/23/14353810/utah-jazz-vs-oklahoma-city-thunder-5-things-to-watch


Will Quin Snyder continue his backup PG carousel, or will we see the triple-wing lineup when George Hill (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/50397/george-hill) needs a break?

I think there's times for both. The wing line-up isn't always the answer. PF remains the bigger concern

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/23/14353810/utah-jazz-vs-oklahoma-city-thunder-5-things-to-watch



I think there's times for both. The wing line-up isn't always the answer. PF remains the bigger concern
Yeah, Trey Lyles is getting worse as the season progresses and Derrick Favors has been stagnant since returning from injury, and Diaw has been less than spectacular so far.
As for the wings, the Jazz need either Shelvin Mack to step up, or just rely on Raul Neto from now on if they want a back up PG

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/buy-sell-or-stand-pat-what-each-team-should-do-before-the-nba-trade-deadline/



Plenty of reasons. Can they beat the Warriors, Spurs or Cavs in a series?
Maybe not now, but in the future? Probably not. Jazz haven't played the Spurs while fully healthy yet, so we need to see where that goes. Even though the Jazz are hot right now, they're having lots of close finishes against decent to mediocre teams. Something still isn't right, we shouldn't be scraping by

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671597/Forgotten-Raul-Neto-is-suddenly-getting-backup-point-guard-minutes-behind-Hill.html



Not one of the worst. Let's not get carried away.



might end up wishing they'd given him 5 years though if he leaves



don't count on it. He's talented and growing in confidence. I wouldn't put anything past the guy

He's gotten a lot better at FT's, which is much more than most bigmen can say who refuse to work on them (ahem... Andre Drummond)

And I can see Gobert getting a better offensive game. Anyone can learn how to do post moves/do more on offense if they just practice, and Gobert has shown the ability to do just that

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http://www.slcdunk.com/research-statistics-analytics/2017/1/23/14357176/nba-history-utah-jazz-karl-malone-john-stockton-deron-williams-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert-ak47

[QUOTE]They were Hall of Famers for a reason. Mark Eaton and Mehmet Okur are

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Maybe not now, but in the future? Probably not. Jazz haven't played the Spurs while fully healthy yet, so we need to see where that goes. Even though the Jazz are hot right now, they're having lots of close finishes against decent to mediocre teams. Something still isn't right, we shouldn't be scraping by

That was the problem with the Stockton/Malone years. They always thought there would be a next year until it didn't come. This year might be their best chance to pull it off. In two years these guys won't be together anymore maybe next year depending on if Hayward opt in or not. They have the cap space to do something now and I think they should go all out this year if the right deals come along. I think they can take any team in the league outside the top 3 with a less than desirable supporting class.

Their length gave the Cavs problems. They beat the Spurs at San Antonio. Should have beat the Warriors at home without Hayward and Hill though Hayward may not have shown up anyway.

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He's gotten a lot better at FT's, which is much more than most bigmen can say who refuse to work on them (ahem... Andre Drummond)

And I can see Gobert getting a better offensive game. Anyone can learn how to do post moves/do more on offense if they just practice, and Gobert has shown the ability to do just that

I thought once he got confident he'd do it at both ends. Thought it would be last year but his time with France in the summer hurt him. His confidence keeps growing. The sky is the limit for him

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2017/1/23/14354424/utah-jazz-okc-thunder-joe-ingles-triple-double-australia-starter-nba-3-point-shooting-contest

[QUOTE]Joe Ingles has gone from out of place role player to reliable bench player in a pinch to reliable role player to 3 & D specialist. That

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2017/1/22/14350842/utah-jazz-los-angeles-clippers-houston-rockets-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert-george-hill


. Dante Exum looks like a shell of his rookie self.

defensively. He looks a lot better offensively though he still can't finish or hit an open shot.


Alec Burks weathered benching after benching from Corbin only to be met by a rash of injuries once Quin Snyder took over.

Burks didn't deserve to play as a rookie. He was a selfish gunner much like Lyles and Hood


Enes Kanter had trouble getting extended minutes during the Corbin years

And yet he was able to learn from Jefferson. The idea that development only comes from sucking on an NBA court is wrong

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/22/utah-jazz-derrick-favors-needs-get-back-form/

[QUOTE]Favors has more than held his own at the defensive end since his return and his passing is at a career best level. His assists Per 36 minutes have dipped slightly from last season, only because he

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Andy Larsen: [URL="http://*********.com/social/"]Miller:

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[URL="http://www.nba.com/jazz/features/jazz-recall-joel-bolomboy-salt-lake-city-stars"]The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has recalled forward Joel Bolomboy from the Salt Lake City Stars, the Jazz

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[QUOTE]do you see the nba on ESPN trolling the jazz?. It

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671712/Big-night-for-Russell-Westbrook-ends-with-clutch-game-winner.html

[QUOTE]The Jazz had to settle for an Alec Burks desperation shot that wasn

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671711/Jazz-see-winning-streak-come-to-an-end-as-OKC-wins-on-Westbrooks-last-second-shot.html

[QUOTE]Alec Burks

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4854657-155/utah-jazz-drained-jazz-team-fighting


As the starters struggled, some of Utah's best fight Monday came off the bench.

Stop with excuses please! We keep hearing about their incredible depth. He should have stuck with his bench guys more at least the ones that played well that is


With the Jazz trailing by seven in the third quarter, reserves Alec Burks, Dante Exum and Trey Lyles sparked a rally.

Lyles sucked as far as I'm concerned. Sure he hit a couple shots but when you shoot every time you touch the ball a couple are bound to go down. Johnson sucked too. Diaw played well again.

For the people crying for Exum to play because he can't learn on the bench I think he has. The one lay-up he lulled the guy to sleep ala Alec and than blew by him. He was also doing a bit of search dribbling which Hill is so good at. But again even at his best he doesn't get my super excited with his play. I need to see him dominate in the D-league at least once! I be more hopeful.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4857577-155/utah-jazz-mailbag-what-does-the

[QUOTE]When the team is fully healthy, the starting lineup looks like this

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4858330-155/monson-rudy-gobert-and-gordon-hayward

[QUOTE]He added: "To me, basketball is about winning and I think I help my team win. People look at stats, they should look at impact, what you do at both ends to help your team win.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4857163-155/kragthorpe-jazzs-loss-to-thunder-a


Snyder has so many personnel choices that he's inevitably going to be second-guessed when his rotation doesn't result in a win

I'm cool as long as he puts guys out there that are generally getting it done he's not. Lyles has mostly sucked! So has Johnson. And Exum. Diaw has had a couple good stretches now at least. Withey has always brought it!


The Jazz eventually will need some kind of dependable rotation as they move into the playoffs.

It will be a very short rotation or Withey will be playing.


Right now, it is evident that the Jazz just need to get through this week. Tuesday's game at Denver, especially, appears almost impossible for a worn-down team. Close games, win or lose, come with an emotional toll. Snyder spoke Monday of the "dog days" of the schedule, and he's right. The Jazz need the upcoming All-Star break to regroup.

Just love the excuses being made before the game is even played! They are deep. Now they need a break? :confusedshrug:


I've never witnessed anything around here quite like the anxiety about whether Hayward or Rudy Gobert will be picked by the Western Conference coaches. There was no such angst about Carlos Boozer, Mehmet Okur or Deron Williams a decade or so ago.

Probably because the media and broadcasters and coaches weren't pushing it like now. Doubt Hot Rod was saying he's an all star before he was and I doubt Sloan was going on about it either. Hayward and Favors they've been pushing as stars for years. Okur wasn't a star in my mind.


And I don't discount the theory that if Hayward recognizes he can become an All-Star in Utah, he would be more inclined to stay here.

He said it's all about winning. See ya Gordon if accolades is all you want!

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42971199&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-thunder


I thought George (Hill) had a really emotional game the other night and expended a lot of energy. Gordon's been doing that more than anyone, maybe in the league," Snyder said. "All those guys were a little drained. It wasn't physically exhausted, but you could tell."

Considering the effort Rudy puts in every night that's disrespectful. He didn't take the night off at GS I know that much. I thought his missed free throws the game before were probably because he was tired


If Rodney Hood were healthy, I wouldn't be surprised if the Jazz just rested some players. Remember, Joe Johnson got the night off nine days ago in a Jazz win, and it's probably time that other Jazz players got the same luxury. On the other hand, they also need every win they can get to try to keep home-court advantage in the first round of the playoffs.https://beacon.deseretconnect.com/beacon.gif?cid=479021&pid=4&notrack

please rest Joe again! Not sure home court means that much when you play almost as good on the road. Being healthy and rested will be bigger.

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http://www.slcdunk.com/research-statistics-analytics/2017/1/24/14365790/utah-jazz-larry-h-miller-group-of-companies-legacy-trust-tax-law

[QUOTE]Some states by statute have eliminated the rule against perpetuities and some have increased the length of time a trust can hold assets. In Utah, the law allows trusts to last 1,000 years. Assuming the Miller legacy trust utilizes Utah

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http://www.slcdunk.com/2017/1/24/14373154/nba-all-star-2017-utah-jazz-denver-nuggets-gordon-hayward-rudy-gobert-karl-malone-adrian-dantley


And to be fair to the All-Star game, they usually value big stats over wins, and value points over everything else.

Not in recent history. Maybe at one time

[QUOTE]It

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/1/24/14368454/utah-jazz-at-denver-nuggets-the-forgotten-time-zone

[QUOTE]Things are changing for the Jazz, but they aren

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/24/utah-jazz-continue-struggle-good-teams/

[QUOTE]there

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[QUOTE]Spencer Checketts: [URL="http://*********.com/social/"]Stan Van Gundy on Quin Snyder:

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671638/Guest-commentary-Will-the-Jazz-have-a-player-on-the-All-Star-team.html

[QUOTE]If Rudy doesn't get picked for the All-Star game, it's probably a good thing in this sense: the dude doesn't forget; revenge can be sweet,

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/24/is-a-utah-jazz-and-oklahoma-city-thunder-rivalry-brewing/

[QUOTE]And while winning a division doesn

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[QUOTE]David Locke: Mike Malone votes were Westbrook, Paul, Cousins, Green, Gobert, Thompson and Gasol (http://*********.com/social/)

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TJ McBride: According to Malone, Mudiay is OUT. Jameer will start but Jamal will be the backup PG (http://*********.com/social/).

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[quote]The World Team is anchored by Embiid (Cameroon), who leads all rookies in scoring (19.8 ppg), rebounding (7.8 rpg) and blocks (2.47 bpg), as well as two members of the 2015-16 NBA All-Rookie First Team in Serbian center Nikola Jokic of the Denver Nuggets (15.2 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 3.9 apg this season) and Latvian forward Kristaps Porzingis of the New York Knicks (18.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 1.92 bpg). Jokic is one of three Nuggets players on the World Team, along with Emmanuel Mudiay (Democratic Republic of the Congo) and Jamal Murray (Canada). [URL="http://www.nba.com/article/2017/01/25/2017-rising-stars-challenge-participants-official-release"]Rounding out the World Team are Dant

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18546871/zach-lowe-2017-nba-all-star-picks-east-west


You can argue that Hayward kinda, sorta plays "guard" in super-big lineups featuring the Hayward/Joe Ingles (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2968436/joe-ingles) and Hayward/Joe Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1007/joe-johnson) combos on the wing, but that feels like a stretch given how rarely such groups play when Utah is at full health. (It also highlights how silly it is to distinguish between the wing positions for All-Star purposes.)

Played Johnson/Hayward at the wings last night. I don't think of either as guard at this stage but there it was.

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www.deseretnews.com/article/865671815/Exum-and-Lyles-to-participate-in-Rising-Stars-.html


Dante Exum and Trey Lyles were both named Wednesday to the Rising Stars Challenge. Exum, who is from Australia, and Lyles, who hails from Canada, will represent the Jazz on the World team in the contest, which will feature some of the premier first- and second-year talent in the NBA.

Exum is in his 3rd year? :confusedshrug:

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671795/Jazz-fall-to-Nuggets-103-93-as-mental-fatigue-builds-up-on-fourth-game-in-fifth-night.html
[QUOTE]

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4862732-155/utah-jazz-dante-exum-trey-lyles


Hood hyperextended and bruised a bone in his knee while driving to the basket last week against the Orlando Magic and was given a timeline of up to 4 weeks for his recovery.

It was reported as 1 to 2 weeks and day to day when it happened but as bad as it looked I guess no one can complain

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42980500&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-nuggets (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=304&sid=42980154&title=jokic-nelson-help-nuggets-beat-jazz-103-93)


After a solid start to the season, Hill has struggled in recent weeks, and from what I hear, his toe may not be at 100 percent, limiting his movement on both ends of the floor.

he certainly hasn't looked like the same player. Hopefully he will be at some point


But when Favors was in, the defense wasn't working.

not surprising. Before Rudy emerged the team sucked with Favors as their rim protector


The bigger question is whether or not Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors should be playing together. Tonight, Gobert came in for Favors at the 8:33 mark of the fourth quarter, while Boris Diaw played the entire fourth. That meant that, despite his good offensive third quarter, Favors didn't score another point after that. It's worth noting that Diaw played well too, scoring 16 points on 12 shots.



The Favors and Gobert combination isn't a wreck when it's played. It outscores opponents by 5 points per 100 possessions in the 347 minutes its seen this season. Diaw and Gobert, though, has been better. That combination outscores opponents by 9.6 points per 100 possessions. (Some other combinations: Diaw/Favors is +9.7 points per 100, Diaw/Lyles is -9.4 points per 100, Lyles/Gobert is +5.5 points per 100, and Lyles/Favors is -2.9 points per 100).



Is that four point difference between Favors/Gobert and Diaw/Gobert enough to justify sitting Favors, despite Favors' bigger resume? I don't know that it is. But the biggest big man pairing hasn't seemingly earned Snyder's trust to finish ballgames since Favors' comeback. The last time that Snyder finished with Favors and Gobert together was the Jazz's comeback win against Minnesota, all the way back on Jan. 7.


Hard to really say until we see Favors at his best again if that ever happens. If it doesn't I'd bring him off the bench and look to move him.

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http://www.slcdunk.com/research-statistics-analytics/2017/1/25/14376414/utah-jazz-midseason-player-ratings-how-has-everybody-met-expectations

[QUOTE]his leadership is an overlooked quality that has proven to make him extremely valuable to this team. This is a team game, and Gordon is the type of player that makes everyone around him look better. Now we finally have some players that have been able to reciprocate that a bit, who have been highlighting some of Hayward

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/25/former-utah-jazz-felton-spencer-returning/

Too bad he got hurt. He was really good the first year they had him

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/25/utah-jazz-potential-backup-point-guard-targets/

Too me the pf position is a much bigger worry


The Utah Jazz NEED a new backup point guard


Burks and Neto have looked good to me. Lyles, Favors, Johnson and Diaw OTOH...

Collison yes if the price is right!

Rubio can't shoot. next...

Reggie Jackson isn't going to be happy going back to a back-up role and the Jazz can't pay him that much after this year to be in that role.

Williams maybe? He's not really a pg but with Hood and or Burks also able to run the show off the bench it might work

I thought of Deron if Dallas does a fire sale. Be funny to see all the boos turn to cheers again. Sloan would welcome him. Great fit.

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Hayward and Cousins over Rudy. :facepalm

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[QUOTE]Jazz wing Joe Ingles did not get an invitation to the 3-point shooting contest despite ranking second in the league in long-range percentage.

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[QUOTE]Though Hood has missed five games since injuring himself late in the Orlando game almost two weeks ago, he was very relieved to be diagnosed with a hyperextended knee when many feared he had torn ligaments.

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[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has assigned forward Joel Bolomboy to the Salt Lake City Stars, the Jazz

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=42999571&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-lakers


Ingles is the Jazz's steal leader because he does do that.

Mack not playing hasn't hurt. He was leading them in steals


And Rodney Hood, still not 100 percent from the bone bruise that could have been worse,

Is he 100% from the lost weight when he had the flu? Was playing well before that.


It's worth thinking about what Hayward's numbers would look like in a higher-tempo offense. The Jazz are about 10 percent slower than the fastest teams in the league, just in terms of the number of possessions they get. If he played on one of those, he'd probably average 24 points per game, maybe more. Instead, he just plugs his role in the passing and spacing-oriented Jazz. The Jazz wouldn't be where they are without him, and it's an honor well deserved.

You don't know really. Maybe he has the numbers he has because of the way the Jazz play? It's like them trying to say Westbrook would be putting up even bigger numbers if he'd played when Big O did. Good luck with no hand checking and not being able to jump into the defender!

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http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2017/01/26/emptying-the-noggin-all-star-hayward-leads-jazz-in-a-non-descript-win/


Teams only play 4 guards and if Ingles and Burks are both going to play then it is going to have to be the Jazz play a portion of the game without a true point guard.

Currently they are the 4th and 5th best players on the roster without a doubt. There's plenty of minutes for them rather they play another pg or not.


Jazz closed with Hill, Ingles, Hawyard, Diaw and Gobert. It is going to be different each night depending on match-ups.

Diaw sucked again so who cares about match-ups. Put Burks out there until Hood or Favors return to form or someone else shows they belong out there with your best players.

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http://deseretnews.com/article/865671956/Rockmonster-Unplugged-Goberts-All-Star-snub-isnt-a-bad-thing.html


In 2006-07, Mehmet Okur and Carlos Boozer made the team. That year the Jazz made the conference finals

Gobert is better than both. Made the finals because the #1 seed lost. They wouldn't have beat the Mavs.


In 1998-99, Utah had three All-Stars: Mark Eaton, Karl Malone and John Stockton. That year the Jazz tied for the best record in the NBA.

Eaton sucked and had been retired for a few seasons by than. I actually thought Eaton deserved it at the time because they had to take 3 centers then!

[QUOTE]It

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4868679-155/jazz-notes-forward-trey-lyles-has


Trey Lyles has but one rule of thumb for himself when he plays in his second consecutive Rising Stars Challenge next month at All-Star weekend.

Don't take the ball out of bounds. He knows he'll never get it back.

So in other words he will play like he always does, very selfishly.

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http://saltcityhoops.com/staff-scrimmage-all-star-reserve-reactions/

[QUOTE]Coaches seem to consider the full body of work (read: previous seasons) instead of looking only at the first half of this season. They

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https://twitter.com/NBA_Math/status/824766094288248832

shows the Jazz can't remain pat and need a lot of help

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http://saltcityhoops.com/sc7jan2717/

[QUOTE]And Snyder insisted again to SCH on Thursday that he

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/26/utah-jazz-star-reserves-announced-today/

[QUOTE] Several members of the media including the Jazz

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The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has assigned forward Joel Bolomboy to the Salt Lake City Stars, the Jazz

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A serious car accident

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[QUOTE]Sources say that the Knicks, for their part, ‎are reluctant to absorb the three years and $42 million left on Crawford

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Not sure if they Jazz can afford him after this year but this trade could make them better and potentially make the Clippers worse. Carmelo is cancer!
I feel the only place he'd actually do decent is Cleveland, but Cleveland don't want him

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/26/utah-jazz-star-reserves-announced-today/



Boone is the idiot that voted for Deron over Chris Paul for ROTY keeping him from being a unanimous choice based on head to head match-ups.



So much respect that they voted for an inferior teammate and Cousins.
Wasn't it Bolerjack that voted that way? I'd expect Boone to do so regardless; his analysis is jack. I cringe whenever I listen to the post cast with David Locke and Ron.
There really is no argument for Jordan over Gobert. I understand Cousins even if he's a horrible teammate although I'd rather have Gobert too

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Let's hope he can get back to pre-flu Hood and they start bringing him and Favors off the bench.
Hood and Favors are really lagging. If Favors isn't right by March, I say the Jazz don't extend him (unless they can do so in the cheap). Hood has been struggling a while, but he can get it going again

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Not worried about Hood in the long term. Doubt Favors gets an extension even if he returns to form. Looking more and more like he will be expendable. Maybe Hill will sign one with the struggles he's been having recently though?

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Not worried about Hood in the long term. Doubt Favors gets an extension even if he returns to form. Looking more and more like he will be expendable. Maybe Hill will sign one with the struggles he's been having recently though?
I honestly think Hill will stay. Seems like he wants to, the team wants him here, and it's a better fit than anywhere else in his career

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I think will stay but can they get him signed to an extension which would probably be a lot less than he will get in the summer.

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http://deseretnews.com/article/865672028/Times-are-changing-for-more-experienced-Utah-Jazz-squad.html

[QUOTE]Obviously, he

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http://www.si.com/nba/2017/01/26/nba-midseason-grades-western-conference-warriors-thunder-clippers

[QUOTE]Credit Rudy Gobert, the Jazz

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4872397-155/utah-jazz-notes-backup-point-guard

[QUOTE]"That was our lineup until Alec got hurt last December," the coach said. "We finished with those three wings.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4871866-155/utah-jazz-assistant-igor-kokoskovs-journey


Almost a decade ago, when Kokoskov was in Phoenix, he was instrumental in working with Steve Nash. Kokoskov does the same with the Jazz, working closely with point guard George Hill. The two have been together for half a season, but already Kokoskov has made an impact on Hill.

"It's different, working with him," Hill said. "The things that he has me do is different than I've been used to. But what he's had me do is phenomenal, little things that I didn't know would help me become a better shooter and better off the dribble, things like that. We take a lot of time doing balance and core. You always want to work with someone who's experienced, and Coach has been very good for me."

From that hospital room to across the globe, Kokoskov took his life-changing experience and made the most of it. From Nash, to Hill and to Goran Dragic, Kokoskov has had an effect on some of the best point guards the game has seen the past two decades.

George can't leave now? :cheers:

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/27/utah-jazz-vs-memphis-grizzlies-keys-to-the-game/5


Hood, Burks and Favors all getting closer to recovering

Where does this come from? Burks has looked fine since he first stepped back on the court but Favors has been up and down at best. Hood has had one game back from his latest set back and I would say he was back from the effects of the flu before that. Could throw Hill into this too!

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[QUOTE]Mike Richman: Mason Plumlee just introduced a new nickname for Allen Crabbe: Basic Cable. Because he only has 3 channels: catch&shoot, pull-ups and layups

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Bolomoboy and Wallace with nice games again

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[QUOTE]The simpler option for the reigning champions, as opposed to a Melo-sized blockbuster deal, might prove to be a smaller swap in which the Cavaliers absorb the salary of a veteran point guard into their $4.4 million Anderson Varejao trade exception that expires Feb. 20. Sources say one vet known to interest the Cavs

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4872840-155/monson-jazz-gm-dennis-lindsey-fires?fullpage=1

:applause: :applause:

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Off to the game again!

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Is Hayward ok with this? I mentioned Cleveland earlier this year as a destination for one of their pg's. Jazz don't really need a trade exception at this point but it could be useful sometime in the next year. I would think they'd want a pick too. Cleveland would probably have to clear a roster spot as well?
I don't think he'd like it, but I'd hardly call it a deal breaker

[Xiao Yao You]

What has Favors done to need rest? Pretty crappy performance. The break can't come too soon.

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http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2017/01/28/emptying-the-noggin-memphis-wins-like-pros/

[QUOTE]

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43019705&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-grizzlies


Zach Randolph was the biggest problem, because the Jazz had no one who could credibly defend him with Derrick Favors out due to rest (more on that later).

He schooled Favors earlier in the year. No one was on the bench and his name is Withey. No excuses when the coach doesn't play his guys. I believe Bolomboy dressed last night as well. Gove him a shot if no one else can get it done. Did Hayward or Ingles get a shot at him?

[QUOTE]"After he warmed up, we just felt like he didn

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Wallace had his best game tonite coming off the bench. Guessing he got benched for a team violation or something? He responded big time. Maybe Bolomboy not being around helped his cause too.

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/29/utah-jazz-still-trevor-booker/

[QUOTE] It then made perfect sense to everybody when Utah signed Boris Diaw as an

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[B][QUOTE]It has not taken long for buyers

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[QUOTE]And while the Magic want to save face on a deal for Ibaka, sources said the team has been aggressive in testing the trade market, apparently acknowledging that this sometimes-tantalizing team still needs some major alterations. Center Nikola Vucevic is also a potential trade target, and there has been talk that point guard Elfrid Payton

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http://www.si.com/nba/2017/01/26/nba-all-star-biggest-snubs-joel-embiid-chris-paul

Gobert deserved to go. His defensive presence, consistency and perfect health have made him more important to his team

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http://deseretnews.com/article/865672204/Jazz-want-Alec-Burks-to-work-on-his-degree-of-difficulty.html


Snyder said Favors needs to continue to work on his skills and timing, but that "he's pretty close" to being back to 100 percent health-wise.

hasn't looked like it

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43031954&nid=304&title=derrick-favors-partial-participant-in-practice-alec-burks-road-to-recovery


Favors has lacked explosion, causing his finishing around the rim to drop off from 71 to 54 percent this season. From every other distance, his shooting percentage has actually increased from 2015-16 to 2016-17, but the difference at the rim is really hurting Favors' impact.

Two years ago he had no post up game but his mid range was better than last year. Maybe he can develop into more of a perimeter player with his passing and improve his shooting. His lack of explosion on his dives to the hoop are worrisome.


The Jazz have been getting caught late in the shot clock pretty frequently this season. 10.3 percent of their shots are taken in the last four seconds of the shot clock, a percentage that leads the league. The Jazz are the 11th-most efficient team on those shots, but they still only get 0.82 points per shot on those attempts.

They looked a lot better to start the year before Hill got hurt.

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/30/nba-trade-rumor-utah-jazz-looking-bolster-roster-playoffs/

[QUOTE]Says Smith, via Twitter:

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Brad Turner: Clippers rookie Diamond Stone assigned to D-League in Salt Lake City

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/31/despite-rough-january-utah-jazz-good-shape/


this month has still been by far the healthiest the Jazz have been all year which makes their struggles all the more disappointing.

Not sure they are really all that healthy. Favors, Hill and Hood still aren't right and Burks says he isn't 100% though he's looked great for the most part. That's 4 of their top 7 guys.



falling noticeably short at the power forward position.

That's the biggest problem. They need a couple guys that can fill that spot consistently.


Utah will also benefit from the upcoming All-Star break which will hopefully allow several of their key guys to rest and recover for the final two months of the season.

Would be great to see Favors, Hood and Hill back to 100% again. Some of their players should go play with the Stars during the break though.

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[QUOTE]
Albert Nahmad: A few tweets about the new

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The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has assigned forward Joel Bolomboy to the Salt Lake City Stars, the Jazz

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4885137-155/utah-jazz-mailbag-what-should-the


I really liked the lineup with four wings around Rudy Gobert. That gives the Jazz a lot of shooting and creativity around their defensive dynamo, who is improving rapidly on offense.

Snyder often has closed with a lineup featuring Johnson at power forward. But because Hill is such a rock at point guard, we won't often see four wings in the game at the same time.

Hill is a combo so he fits . I like that line-up too especially since the PF's have sucked so much


You also can take out Gobert, sub in Derrick Favors and get the same thing with four wings around him.

hardly the same. Withey would be closer


that's been Snyder's biggest challenge this season: Doling out minutes.

His rotations have been weak. Shouldn't be that hard when some guys suck more than others




I think they need time. And I think they have the pieces to be a contender.

The Jazz core is yet to reach its prime. Hayward is 26. Hood and Gobert are 24. Favors is 25. Exum and Trey Lyles are both 21. If the Jazz bring Hill back, he's the only person in the core group outside of his 20s.

Exum has one one more year to prove he's an NBAer. Lyles has two. The time could be now before they have to pay people and break up the team. Go all in at the trade deadline/buy-outs and see what happens.


Nobody is beating the Golden State Warriors this season.

Spurs aren't far behind and they are more built for the post season.


If the front office thinks there is a deal out there that will help the team, Lindsey consistently has shown he will pull the trigger.

No he hasn't. Didn't try two years ago. Last year he waited until it was too late. This year he only made moves because the cap increase pretty much forced it. Don't think he's happy that the tanking is over already.


The Jazz don't really have a glaring need. Maybe a power forward or another center. Maybe another point guard, although the Jazz really want to develop Exum.

But on paper, they are pretty stacked at every spot

Exum has one more year to develop! Wallace looks like a similar player and is only a year older and will be a lot cheaper. Lyles and Bolomboy have proven nothing yet. The wings are probably the strongest but Hood will get paid soon by someone not to mention Hayward, Hill and Ingles. They could use some younger guys there though Exum could be it at some point but I'm not holding out hope.

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43043169&nid=304&title=rudy-gobert-controls-the-crowd-and-more-notes-from-jazz-practice


And Mack had the drill's best array of floaters, step-throughs, and dribble moves, but was inconsistent at finishing them.

his floater is as consistent as any shot on the team I imagine

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/31/nba-rumors-utah-jazz-interested-free-agent-pg-norris-cole/


one position that remains an area of concern for the Jazz is the backup point guard, where Shelvin Mack, Dante Exum and Raul Neto have all had their ups and downs

I'll take Mack and Neto over any of their PF's

[QUOTE]According to Amico, the Jazz are one of several teams that have shown interest in free agent point-man Norris Cole

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[QUOTE]If the Heat is unable to trade Williams, releasing him is among the other options under consideration. Washington is among the teams believed to have interest if Williams is released, according to a Williams associate. It

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2689907-big-man-power-rankings-is-joel-embiid-really-the-nbas-most-skilled


8. Rudy Gobert, Utah Jazz

I can see him being all-NBA at the end of the year. :bowdown:

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/02/01/utah-jazz-northwest-division-comparison-february/

Who cares? It's meaningless now.

[QUOTE]The Timberwolves have had their share of growing pains this season with their incredibly young roster, and while there could still be more positive moments, I don

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/01/30/nba-trade-rumor-utah-jazz-looking-bolster-roster-playoffs/



don't forget Ingles!



What makes you say that? He was their 2nd best player in the Summer in the one game he played after sucking the year before. If he can improve that much in one year who knows what the future looks like. Looks like a horrible deal to me with the inconsistency of Diaw.



Burks looks great and Hood did before he got the flu and lost weight. Hopefully after the all-star break him and Hill will be back to where they were. Favors I think may not ever get there again.

PF is their biggest issue unless they expect Favors to return to form and even than they may be better off with someone else next to Rudy. Lyles isn't ready and Diaw is too inconsistent. Ingles and Hayward could do it I think but than you need help on the wing.

Pretty weak article really. I'd be surprised if they aren't very active after the off-season they had and with a lot of money still to spend. Unless someone is getting that money in an extension which looks unlikely they need to go all in if they can without screwing up the future.

They need help. Outside Rudy/Hill/Hayward/Ingles/Burks/Hood they've been very inconsistent. I think Neto and Withey could help but they won't. Joe Johnson needs to go because of the 11 million for next year. Diaw/Withey/Mack are FA's. Might be able to get something for them. Favors may be worth more now than the off-season if you think he needs to go eventually. Could open roster spots for buy-out candidates that will follow the trade deadline too.
The Jazz have done as good as they have this year with Favors being a shell of his former self or not even playing at all. When he's in the game, it almost seems like the Jazz force-feed him the ball at times, he just isn't in the flow of things whatsoever. At this point, the Jazz might want to consider featuring the Joe brothers much more heavily at PF since Lyles is underperforming with Diaw thus far this season. Burks needs more time though, he's doing great since coming back

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2689907-big-man-power-rankings-is-joel-embiid-really-the-nbas-most-skilled



I can see him being all-NBA at the end of the year. :bowdown:
At the very least, he should get it over DeAndre. And if the NBA has sense, he should get it over Hayward as well since they both count as Front Court players

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The Jazz have done as good as they have this year with Favors being a shell of his former self or not even playing at all. When he's in the game, it almost seems like the Jazz force-feed him the ball at times, he just isn't in the flow of things whatsoever. At this point, the Jazz might want to consider featuring the Joe brothers much more heavily at PF since Lyles is underperforming with Diaw thus far this season. Burks needs more time though, he's doing great since coming back

Ingles needs to play a lot. Joe Johnson hasn't been consistent either. I'd look to trade him especially because of the 1 million he is owed next year.

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At the very least, he should get it over DeAndre. And if the NBA has sense, he should get it over Hayward as well since they both count as Front Court players

Media loves Gobert.

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http://deseretnews.com/article/865672355/Utah-Jazz-notes-Derrick-Favors-gets-another-day-of-rest-for-ailing-knees.html

Favors needs yet more rest. :wtf:

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43051687&nid=304&title=jazz-shootaround-notes-derrick-favors-out-for-game-vs-milwaukee


I've been told that there's nothing structurally wrong with his knee, and that's why they haven't done any surgery. But before Saturday's game against Memphis, Favors could barely dunk, according to sources.

hard to believe it's just a bone bruise

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http://www.slcdunk.com/utah-jazz-game-coverage/2017/2/1/14455092/utah-jazz-vs-milwaukee-bucks-overtone-two-underdogs-getting-over-the-hump-giannis-antetokounmpo


Recently the Jazz signed Joe Johnson in free agency, surprising everyone in Utah and the NBA with him choosing Utah over what would have definitely been multiple suitors. It was a sign that the Jazz culture and depth resonated with players around the league.

I imagine it came down to more money and years


But, re-signing George Hill, something that seems very possible with his dip in play the last month, would do a lot for the Jazz image.
Might effect the extension but don't know why they can't sign him regardless


Dennis Lindsey has proven to be very smart with the contracts he doles out.

Pleiss, Johnson... :rolleyes:

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https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/826833692161028098/photo/1

Looks like a great deal for the Jazz considering Favors condition and the fact that Love is locked up for a few years.

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Withey was great as usual. Diaw sucked yet again. Too bad Withey doesn't miss 3's maybe he'd play? :confusedshrug:

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http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2017/02/01/emptying-the-noggin-jazz-torch-the-corners-in-win-over-bucks/

Only downside tonight is Rodney Hood hyper extended his knee again and will have an MRI in the morning according to Tony Jones of the salt lake tribune.

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43058354&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-bucks



If Hood can't play, who will get his minutes? Joe Ingles started the second half in Hood's place tonight, and I think that's a likely scenario moving forward. But Joe Johnson, Alec Burks, and Dante Exum also should be beneficiaries of Hood's absence. Exum played 7:49 tonight, including some time next to George Hill playing the shooting guard spot. Exum hit a three early, but was pulled late thanks to some bad switching mistakes that let Thon Maker get two consecutive wide open threes.

More Burks and Ingles. No Dante and Johnson.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4887559-155/utah-jazz-notes-jabari-parker-shows

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz believe point guard Dant

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nba-midseason-awards-darkhorse-candidates-kevin-durant-rudy-gobert-mike-dantoni

not looking good for Rudy?

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[QUOTE]Justin Kubatko: Rudy Gobert has 42 games with 10 or more rebounds, the most such games in the NBA this season (via @StatMuse): statm.us/e/ZUmFMeAV0

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43058354&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-3-thoughts-on-jazz-vs-bucks




More Burks and Ingles. No Dante and Johnson.
Less Dante, but Johnson did just fine. Dude straight up abused Jabari last night. Just listen to David Locke's post cast from the game and you'll see why

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http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2017/02/01/emptying-the-noggin-jazz-torch-the-corners-in-win-over-bucks/

Only downside tonight is Rodney Hood hyper extended his knee again and will have an MRI in the morning according to Tony Jones of the salt lake tribune.
While that's not good, it should give management the incentive to let him rest until after the all-star break so this won't happen again. Also Alec should get more minutes which I'm looking forward to

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Withey was great as usual. Diaw sucked yet again. Too bad Withey doesn't miss 3's maybe he'd play? :confusedshrug:
One of the biggest reasons Diaw gets more playing time is because - inexplicably - the team's +/- is significantly better when he's on the floor compared to any other big not named Gobert. I have no clue why, he doesn't even play with the starting lineup, only 10 minutes with them in January

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Less Dante, but Johnson did just fine. Dude straight up abused Jabari last night. Just listen to David Locke's post cast from the game and you'll see why

Last night he was good. He's very inconsistent. On a vet minimum deal maybe. 22 million he ought to be one of the top 6th men in the league. Jabari abused someone himself

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While that's not good, it should give management the incentive to let him rest until after the all-star break so this won't happen again. Also Alec should get more minutes which I'm looking forward to


Alec should play more regardless. He's been their 3rd best player. Guess yo are back on his bandwagon! :applause:

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One of the biggest reasons Diaw gets more playing time is because - inexplicably - the team's +/- is significantly better when he's on the floor compared to any other big not named Gobert. I have no clue why, he doesn't even play with the starting lineup, only 10 minutes with them in January

Snyder said the +/- is flawed and I agree. The main reason it's probably high is because he plays with Gobert a lot! All their PF's ratings are good with Gobert. Diaw/Lyles suck together just like Booker/Lyles did last year.

I could see not playing Withey if Favors was healthy but the reason he doesn't play is because he doesn't shoot the 3 ball which I can understand except Lyles and Diaw rarely hit them. Withey's advanced numbers were better than Gobert last year and he's consistent unlike anyone outside Rudy. Why not keep a rim protector in the game at all times? He is better at protecting the rim than a healthy Favors. I'd like to see Withey at the rim and Rudy on the perimeter sometimes even. They are wasting Withey's best years that's for sure.

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[QUOTE]As the NBA

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[QUOTE]Jazz starting shooting guard Rodney Hood is expected to miss Saturday

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865672459/Quin-Snyder-Dont-forget-about-Joe-Johnson.html

[QUOTE]

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4894902-155/monson-50-games-in-the-jazz


So if teams are only as good as their record says they are, and the Jazz were to beat the teams they're better than, in that vacuum, they would finish the season by winning 23 games and losing nine. That would place them at 54-28.

That's closer to where I think they should be than the 50 they should have been shooting for last year


The 2016-17 Jazz are not the 1996-97 or 1997-98 Jazz, but if they were to get all heady like that, they would complete this regular season with a 59-23 or 58-24 mark.

Nobody's counting on that.

I am. With the cap space they have they have a real chance to add some big pieces to this team in the next few weeks. Rather they do or not remains to be seen.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4895729-155/utah-jazz-joe-johnson-evolves-into



But he's been different this season, setting others up. He's been a playmaker when the Jazz have needed one.

He's always been a playmaker.

maybe there's hope yet if they play him at the 4 succefully?

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http://www.slcdunk.com/nba-podcast-utah-jazz-video/2017/2/3/14491900/nba-video-utah-jazz-dante-exum-derrick-favors-phil-jackson


you can always get frustrated about specific losses. But, most losses this season, are pretty explainable to either injury, schedule, or the Warriors having cheat codes.

or Hayward not showing up

[QUOTE]The only instance where I think this happened or was successful was in Enes Kanter

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/02/02/utah-jazz-four-possible-solutions-to-improve-frontcourt/

[QUOTE] While in more ways than not the now 31-19 Jazz are at least matching if not exceeding expectations, there

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Last night he was good. He's very inconsistent. On a vet minimum deal maybe. 22 million he ought to be one of the top 6th men in the league. Jabari abused someone himself
I will say in his role he isn't worth $11 mil a year, but he's still capable and does whatever he's asked. He could play better, but he willingly turns down shots and isos so the team can play better. I personally like him

[WayOfWad3]

Alec should play more regardless. He's been their 3rd best player. Guess yo are back on his bandwagon! :applause:
Yeah he won me over pretty quickly. It's always better to expect the worst possible outcome so you're always pleasantly surprised when things are at all better

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865672459/Quin-Snyder-Dont-forget-about-Joe-Johnson.html
and they've mostly obviously sucked :facepalm



so it's worse now with a sprain. Maybe let him heal 100% this time?

Yeah they need to give Johnson more run at the 4. We've closed quite a few games like that, no reason we can't see how he handles it during the second and third quarters.
And yeah no need to rush Rodney back; he's shown that he can be injury prone his rookie, so baby steps

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http://www.slcdunk.com/nba-podcast-utah-jazz-video/2017/2/3/14491900/nba-video-utah-jazz-dante-exum-derrick-favors-phil-jackson



or Hayward not showing up



He was one of the worst offensive players in history as a rookie. They won because of Rudy just as they are now. He actually looks improved offensively but he still has a long ways to go to be an NBA player and now he can't defend without fouling.
Hayward does have trouble showing up for big games. Bulls, Thunder, and Grizzlies to name a few.
Also these people seem to forget that Dante Exum can't defend anybody anymore. It's perplexing because I've seen his speed and he is faster than most players in the league, but on defense he just can't stay with anybody