All-Time NBA 10-Man Lineup Fantasy Draft

[AussieSteve]

1977 Bobby Jones: 15|8|3|2|2 on 57 fg% | All-NBA Defensive First Team

One of the most overlooked players in history, actually just got into the basketball HOF. One of the all-time great defenders in history, made the All-Defensive First Team 10 times, 8 in the NBA, 2 in the ABA. One of the few players to average 2 steals and 2 blocks in a season. His 6'9" size, hustle, and underrated athletic ability allowed him to guard multiple positions on the floor... forwards, guards, and even some centers.

https://i.imgur.com/zdPdOgO.gif

C - '90 Ewing
F - '04 Garnett | '77 B. Jones
F - '13 LeBron | '05 Bowen
G - '03 McGrady | '08 Ginobili
G - '03 Kidd | '17 Irving

Decided to start Kidd since I need more scorers like Kyrie to come off the bench. I'm loving my defensive versatility, Garnett-LeBron-Jones-Bowen-Kidd can all guard multiple positions on the floor at a high level and I have Ewing as a rim protector. Also like the spacing and shooting I have with Irving, McGrady, Ginobili, & Bowen, I can go small ball with them with LeBron at the 4 and Ewing or Garnett at the 5.

I'm fuming righy now. Bobby Jones was going to be my last pick! He was like Dennis Rodman on D. Except he wasnt a head case. Did everything and put it all on the floor every game. He was the epitome of effort when it comes to defense.

[NBAGOAT]

I'm fuming righy now. Bobby Jones was going to be my last pick! He was like Dennis Rodman on D. Except he wasnt a head case. Did everything and put it all on the floor every game. He was the epitome of effort when it comes to defense.

Considered him over kirilenko too but decided kirilenko making a few 3s was worth it. Might have been a mistake, Bobby

[Gotterdammerung]

I addressed a sore spot with my last pick: interior defense, ferocious rebounding, but I still need size and athleticism and shooting. Clutch shooting, especially if I want to play a pass happy Chamberlain for 40 minutes a game.

Robert Horry.

He checks all of the boxes. Can play off a dominant center, play weak side defense or slow down a feisty forward one on one, nasty putback dunks, and hit the biggest shots of the game.

[Manny98]

Rashard Lewis

[SouBeachTalents]

The Boshtrich

[SpaceJam2]

Quick reflection based on top 10 picked:

Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Shaquille O'Neal
LeBron James
Wilt Chamberlain
Kevin Durant
Hakeem Olajuwon
Kawhi Leonard
Larry Bird
Bill Russell

Are these the 10 greatest players of all time?

*side note*: LeBron went 4th, Kobe went 16th

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

Quick reflection based on top 10 picked:

Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Shaquille O'Neal
LeBron James
Wilt Chamberlain
Kevin Durant
Hakeem Olajuwon
Kawhi Leonard
Larry Bird
Bill Russell

Are these the 10 greatest players of all time?

*side note*: LeBron went 4th, Kobe went 16th
I have Magic Johnson and Tim Duncan in my top 10.

They are greatness personified.

[iamgine]

I'll pick Arvydas Sabonis

[1987_Lakers]

Round 1

1) DaHeezy - Michael Jordan
2) AussieSteve - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3) NBAGOAT - Shaquille O'Neal
4) 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
5) Gotterdammerung - Wilt Chamberlain
6) Manny98 - Kevin Durant
7) SouBeachTalents - Hakeem Olajuwon
8) iamgine - Kawhi Leonard
9) Achilleas - Larry Bird
10) Hakeem Olajuwon - Bill Russell

Round 2

1) Hakeem Olajuwon - Magic Johnson
2) Achilleas - Tim Duncan
3) iamgine - Stephen Curry
4) SouBeachTalents - DIRK
5) Manny98 - ADMIRAL ROBINSON
6) Gotterdammerung - KOBE BRYANT
7) 1987_Lakers - KEVIN GARNETT
8) NBAGOAT -WADE
9) AussieSteve - Charles Barkley
10) DaHeezy - Scottie Pippen

Round 3

1) DaHeezy - John Stockton
2) AussieSteve - Chris Paul
3) NBAGOAT - Jerry West
4) 1987_Lakers - Tracy Mcgrady
5) Gotterdammerung - Oscar Robertson
6) Manny98 - Steve Nash
7) SouBeachTalents - Isiah Thomas
8) iamgine - Bill Walton
9) Achilleas - Julius Erving
10) Hakeem Olajuwon - KARL MALONE

Round 4

1) Hakeem Olajuwon - RAY ALLEN
2) Achilleas - KLAY THOMPSON
3) iamgine - Anthony Davis
4) SouBeachTalents - Reggie Miller
5) Manny98 - Sidney Moncrief
6) Gotterdammerung - Bob McAdoo
7) 1987_Lakers - Patrick Ewing
8) NBAGOAT - Draymond Green
9) AussieSteve - Moses Malone
10) DaHeezy - Chris Webber

Round 5

1) DaHeezy - Dikembe Mutombo
2) AussieSteve - James Harden
3) NBAGOAT - Giannis Antetokounmpo
4) 1987_Lakers - Manu Ginobili
5) Gotterdammerung - Dra

[SpaceJam2]

I have Magic Johnson and Tim Duncan in my top 10.

They are greatness personified.


I do, too.

So, push out KD and Kawhi I'm assuming?

[Achilleas]

Pau gasol

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

For my first pick, I

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

The final piece to my front court is the heart, soul and backbone of the Knicks' 1970 and 1973 championship teams:

Willis Reed ‘70

Reed was very tough and strong inside defensively, possessing a soft touch around the rim, and deadly with his jumpshot from 15 feet. Reed was very effective at setting picks to free up teammates, which will give Karl Malone, Hondo, Worthy and Drexler the keys to the kingdom.

Basketball Hall of Famer
2x NBA Champion ‘70, ‘73
2x NBA Finals MVP ‘70, ‘73
1x NBA MVP ‘70
7x NBA All-Star
1x All-NBA First Team
4x All-NBA Second Team
1x NBA All-Defensive First Team ‘70

[1987_Lakers]

Can we all post our rosters as we head into the final round?

[Achilleas]

Round 1

1) DaHeezy - Michael Jordan
2) AussieSteve - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3) NBAGOAT - Shaquille O'Neal
4) 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
5) Gotterdammerung - Wilt Chamberlain
6) Manny98 - Kevin Durant
7) SouBeachTalents - Hakeem Olajuwon
8) iamgine - Kawhi Leonard
9) Achilleas - Larry Bird
10) Hakeem Olajuwon - Bill Russell

Round 2

1) Hakeem Olajuwon - Magic Johnson
2) Achilleas - Tim Duncan
3) iamgine - Stephen Curry
4) SouBeachTalents - DIRK
5) Manny98 - ADMIRAL ROBINSON
6) Gotterdammerung - KOBE BRYANT
7) 1987_Lakers - KEVIN GARNETT
8) NBAGOAT -WADE
9) AussieSteve - Charles Barkley
10) DaHeezy - Scottie Pippen

Round 3

1) DaHeezy - John Stockton
2) AussieSteve - Chris Paul
3) NBAGOAT - Jerry West
4) 1987_Lakers - Tracy Mcgrady
5) Gotterdammerung - Oscar Robertson
6) Manny98 - Steve Nash
7) SouBeachTalents - Isiah Thomas
8) iamgine - Bill Walton
9) Achilleas - Julius Erving
10) Hakeem Olajuwon - KARL MALONE

Round 4

1) Hakeem Olajuwon - RAY ALLEN
2) Achilleas - KLAY THOMPSON
3) iamgine - Anthony Davis
4) SouBeachTalents - Reggie Miller
5) Manny98 - Sidney Moncrief
6) Gotterdammerung - Bob McAdoo
7) 1987_Lakers - Patrick Ewing
8) NBAGOAT - Draymond Green
9) AussieSteve - Moses Malone
10) DaHeezy - Chris Webber

Round 5

1) DaHeezy - Dikembe Mutombo
2) AussieSteve - James Harden
3) NBAGOAT - Giannis Antetokounmpo
4) 1987_Lakers - Manu Ginobili
5) Gotterdammerung - Dra

[Achilleas]

I WILL put all the rosters

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

Can we all post our rosters as we head into the final round?
Will do this tomorrow.

Will share my starting lineup, small ball lineup, 3-pts lineup, All-D.. later too.

[Achilleas]

ROSTERS
1) DaHeezy - Michael Jordan,Scottie Pippen,John Stockton,Chris Webber,Dikembe Mutombo,Allen Iverson,Dominique Wilkins,Alonzo Mourning

2) AussieSteve - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,Charles Barkley,Chris Paul,Moses Malone,James Harden,Mark Price,Michael Cooper,Elgin Baylor,Elvin Hayes

3) NBAGOAT - Shaquille O'Neal,WADE,Jerry West,Draymond Green,Giannis Antetokounmpo,Peja Stojakovic, Damian Lillard,Andrei Kirilenko,carter

4) 1987_Lakers - LeBron James,KEVIN GARNETT,Tracy Mcgrady,Patrick Ewing,Manu Ginobili,Kyrie Irving,Jason Kidd,Bruce Bowen,Bobby Jones

5) Gotterdammerung - Wilt Chamberlain,KOBE BRYANT,Oscar Robertson,Bob McAdoo,Dražen Petrović,Walt Frazier,David Thompson,Nate Thurmond,Robert Horry

6) Manny98 - Kevin Durant,ADMIRAL ROBINSON,Steve Nash,Sidney Moncrief,Kyle Korver, Dwight Howard,Grant Hill,Shawn Marion,Rashard Lewis

7) SouBeachTalents - Hakeem Olajuwon,DIRK,Isiah Thomas,Reggie Miller,Ron Artest,Paul George,Chauncey Billups,Dale Ellis,Chris Bosh

8) iamgine - Kawhi Leonard,Stephen Curry,Bill Walton,Anthony Davis,GARY PAYTON,Kevin Mchale,Victor Oladipo,Paul Pierce,Arvydas Sabonis

9) Achilleas - Larry Bird,Tim Duncan,Julius Erving,KLAY THOMPSON,GILBERT ARENAS,RICK BARRY,Pistol maravich,Andre Iguodala,pau gasol,yao ming

10) Hakeem Olajuwon - Bill Russell,Magic Johnson,KARL MALONE,RAY ALLEN,JOHN HAVLICEK,DENNIS RODMAN,Clyde Drexler,James Worthy,Dennis Johnson,Willis Reed

[RRR3]

Kyle Korver? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Manny98]

Kyle Korver? :roll: :roll: :roll:
What's funny?

You need guys who can play off ball and can spot up.Y ou can't just have a bunch of ball dominant high usage superstars and expect it to work out

Korver is perfect for that, 50% from 3 and decent defender

[RRR3]

What's funny?

You need guys who can play off ball and can spot up.Y ou can't just have a bunch of ball dominant high usage superstars and expect it to work out

Korver is perfect for that, 50% from 3 and decent defender
Look who you picked him over :oldlol:

Could have picked way better guys who haven’t even been taken to fill his role too

[Achilleas]

MY TEAM

9) Achilleas - Larry Bird 86 ,Tim Duncan 03 ,Julius Erving 76,KLAY THOMPSON 18,GILBERT ARENAS 06 ,RICK BARRY 75,Pistol maravich 77,Andre Iguodala 12,pau gasol 10,yao ming 07


PG : ARENAS,PISTOL MARAVICH,IGGY
SG : KLAY,ARENAS,IGGY,PISTOL
SG : DOCTOR,BARRY,BIRD,IGGY,KLAY
PF : BIRD,GASOL,BARRY,DOCTOR,DUNCAN
C : DUNCAN,YAO,GASOL

[NBAGOAT]

[QUOTE=Achilleas]ROSTERS
1) DaHeezy - Michael Jordan,Scottie Pippen,John Stockton,Chris Webber,Dikembe Mutombo,Allen Iverson,Dominique Wilkins,Alonzo Mourning

2) AussieSteve - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,Charles Barkley,Chris Paul,Moses Malone,James Harden,Mark Price,Michael Cooper,Elgin Baylor,Elvin Hayes

3) NBAGOAT - Shaquille O'Neal,WADE,Jerry West,Draymond Green,Giannis Antetokounmpo,Peja Stojakovic, Damian Lillard,Andrei Kirilenko,Arvydas Sabonis

4) 1987_Lakers - LeBron James,KEVIN GARNETT,Tracy Mcgrady,Patrick Ewing,Manu Ginobili,Kyrie Irving,Jason Kidd,Bruce Bowen,Bobby Jones

[COLOR="Silver"]5) Gotterdammerung - Wilt Chamberlain,KOBE BRYANT,Oscar Robertson,Bob McAdoo,Dra

[Achilleas]

i didnt pick sabonis. Carter was my 9th pick
ok i edit it

[1987_Lakers]

I believe me and iamgine have the best teams so far. Just my opinion though.

[DaHeezy]

I believe me and iamgine have the best teams so far. Just my opinion though.

I created the best possible team around Jordan
My team would be the hardest to score on with a bench that can put up buckets.

[iamgine]

I'll take Jimmy Butler

[SouBeachTalents]

Ben Wallace

[Manny98]

Mookie Blaylock

Final roster

PG - Nash | Blaylock
SG - Moncrief | Korver
SF - Marion | Hill
PF - KD | Lewis
C - Robinson | Dwight

I don't care what anyone says i have the best team of the draft, perfect balance of everything

Some of ya'll are running with too many ball handlers, lack of shooting or players that don't even fit in todays era. My team is perfectly constructed

[And1AllDay]

I believe me and iamgine have the best teams so far. Just my opinion though.

You yes but no to imagine


best teams imo, not in order are


1987 lakers
soubeach
nba goat
da heezy
aussie steve
achilleas

[Gotterdammerung]

Allan Houston is my last pick: a great shooter who played in a physical era.

Robertson | Frazier
Petrovic | Thompson
Bryant | Houston
McAdoo | Horry
Chamberlain | Thurmond

Versatile enough to play big, small, mean, fast, and skilled enough to excel at all of them.
:kobe:

[1987_Lakers]

'82 Robert Parish: 20 pts, 11 rbs, 2.5 blk on 54 FG% | All-NBA Second Team

C - '90 Ewing | '82 Parish
F - '04 Garnett | '77 B. Jones
F - '13 LeBron | '05 Bowen
G - '03 McGrady | '08 Ginobili
G - '03 Kidd | '17 Irving

Most underrated part of Parish's game? His mobility, he was one of the best fastbreak centers in the game.

Also had a habit of owning Moses Malone in the postseason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho0y30X9ICY (8:05 mark)

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

I believe me and iamgine have the best teams so far. Just my opinion though.
You what?


Everyone is sleeping on mine and Gottadammerung

[1987_Lakers]

^^ Dude, you have no shooting besides Allen. Magic, DJ, Drexler, & Worthy can't hit 3s, you have no spacing. Your team would be great in 1985, in today's game they would get slaughtered by my team. :D

[NBAGOAT]

i need a big who can play with any of my bigs and shoot/defend/pass since my 2nd unit has enough scoring. Going with 18 horford just for the 43% from 3.
I dont love how my draft went but I think my team is really good.

00 Shaq/18 Horford
16 Green/19 Giannis
04 Peja/04 Kirilenko
09 Wade/01 Carter
68 West/19 Lillard

I got admittedly not the best guard defense outside wade but guard defense is the least important. Green and kirilenko and/or giannis is a monster combination defensively.

Can usually have 3 shooters on the court, sometimes 4. Ofc I have an easy formula for a baseline offense. Just do what do 05 heat did along with some triangle you seen from the shaq/kobe 3 peat with wade/carter replacing kobe.

[NBAGOAT]

some teams are obviously not going for a modern style. The question is that 70s-80s style of just running and posting up 4 of your starters with like one or two designated jump shooters and crashing for every board going be effective enough.

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

^^ Dude, you have no shooting besides Allen. Magic, DJ, Drexler, & Worthy can't hit 3s, you have no spacing. Your team would be great in 1985, in today's game they would get slaughtered by my team. :D
Don

[1987_Lakers]

[QUOTE=Hakeem Olajuwon]Don

[1987_Lakers]

Mookie Blaylock

Final roster

PG - Nash | Blaylock
SG - Moncrief | Korver
SF - Marion | Hill
PF - KD | Lewis
C - Robinson | Dwight

I don't care what anyone says i have the best team of the draft, perfect balance of everything

Some of ya'll are running with too many ball handlers, lack of shooting or players that don't even fit in todays era. My team is perfectly constructed

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

[NBAGOAT]

[QUOTE=Hakeem Olajuwon]Don

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

Magic-Malone will be my main guard-forward combo.

[NBAGOAT]

Magic-Malone will be my main guard-forward combo.

yea i would say this teambuilding is a little flawed. Magic isnt like most pgs, he doesnt operate nearly as much out of the pnr. Lot of his scoring comes from postups which will just clash with malone. Like a fastbreak with magic/malone is monstrous but I specifically would slow the game as much as possible

[AussieSteve]

I believe me and iamgine have the best teams so far. Just my opinion though.

Your team is top shelf defensively, but not sure it's there on offense. Particularly in the front court.

Are Ewing, KG and lebron going to be able to score efficiently against elite defense. I'm not sure. Then you have parish, Jones and bowen as backups.

Most front courts in this league have more fire power. And for the most part also have very good defense at each position.

[NBAGOAT]

it's obvious fit won out over talent overall. No one touched westbrook :lol

[1987_Lakers]

Your team is top shelf defensively, but not sure it's there on offense. Particularly in the front court.

Are Ewing, KG and lebron going to be able to score efficiently against elite defense. I'm not sure. Then you have parish, Jones and bowen as backups.

Most front courts in this league have more fire power. And for the most part also have very good defense at each position.

I'm not too worried with scoring. LeBron is LeBron, he is scoring on anyone regardless. Ewing averaged 29 points a game in '90, he averaged 32 points vs the Bird-McHale-Parish Celtics in the playoffs, then averaged 27 points vs a legendary Bad Boys Pistons defense in the next series. Then I have a MJ-Kobe level scorer in the backcourt with McGrady who puts up 30+ points a game.

That is basically 3 guys who can put 30+ points on consistent basis, Parish was a 20 ppg player, Irving and Ginobili also give me 20+.

I don't think offensive firepower is really an issue in these All-time drafts, it's just how they all fit together. I think I have the best combo of talent, scoring, defense, & shooting.

[Achilleas]

arenas will play the same way like steph
klay guard the best guard and be the shooter,he don't want to driblle much
doctor good defender,he will score most of the time in fastbreaks and lobs,fist sub
bird clutch,gives everything for the team,and help the offence
duncan play elite defence,and help the offence,he doesn't have to try much

klay duncan and bird don't care for stats but for the win so we will not have problem

pisto pete will create for the team ,spark for 2 unit,and shoot
iggy will play to control the tempo,i can use him as pg with klay sg to have elite defence in guards,
barry will play sf and pf ,scorer and can open the space
gasol can do everything for the team,score from midrange,pass,defende and don't care for stats
yao will help against big men,defence in the paint,and on offence will score against small matchups
almost all players can score from outside and the lane will be open

[Manny98]

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif
Who surrounds LeBron with no elite shooters lol :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

Who surrounds LeBron with no elite shooters lol :oldlol:

Try again, Ginobili, Irving, & Bowen are all 40% 3 point shooters. McGrady shot 39%.

[Manny98]

Try again, Ginobili, Irving, & Bowen are all 40% 3 point shooters. McGrady shot 39%.
McGrady is a iso scorer who needs the ball in his hands not a spot up shooter

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=Hakeem Olajuwon]I

[1987_Lakers]

McGrady is a iso scorer who needs the ball in his hands not a spot up shooter

So is Wade & Kyrie, but they worked well with LeBron.

[Manny98]

i need a big who can play with any of my bigs and shoot/defend/pass since my 2nd unit has enough scoring. Going with 18 horford just for the 43% from 3.
I dont love how my draft went but I think my team is really good.

00 Shaq/18 Horford
16 Green/19 Giannis
04 Peja/04 Kirilenko
09 Wade/01 Carter
68 West/19 Lillard

I got admittedly not the best guard defense outside wade but guard defense is the least important. Green and kirilenko and/or giannis is a monster combination defensively.

Can usually have 3 shooters on the court, sometimes 4. Ofc I have an easy formula for a baseline offense. Just do what do 05 heat did along with some triangle you seen from the shaq/kobe 3 peat with wade/carter replacing kobe.
Robinson will feast on your weak interior defense :oldlol:

[Manny98]

MY TEAM

9) Achilleas - Larry Bird 86 ,Tim Duncan 03 ,Julius Erving 76,KLAY THOMPSON 18,GILBERT ARENAS 06 ,RICK BARRY 75,Pistol maravich 77,Andre Iguodala 12,pau gasol 10,yao ming 07


PG : ARENAS,PISTOL MARAVICH,IGGY
SG : KLAY,ARENAS,IGGY,PISTOL
SG : DOCTOR,BARRY,BIRD,IGGY,KLAY
PF : BIRD,GASOL,BARRY,DOCTOR,DUNCAN
C : DUNCAN,YAO,GASOL
Gilbert Arenas as your floor general, Yikes :oldlol:

[Manny98]

So is Wade & Kyrie, but they worked well with LeBron.
Kidd,LeBron,Kyrie, Manu and McGrady sharing 1 basketball

You have too many ball handlers

[1987_Lakers]

Kidd,LeBron,Kyrie, Manu and McGrady sharing 1 basketball

You have too many ball handlers

Well, it's an All-time draft. What do you expect? Are the 1992 Dream Team not the greatest team ever assembled because they had too many ball-handlers? :oldlol:

[AussieSteve]

OK sorry for the delay...

My last pick is 1993 Dan Marjerle, who was an AS, All-D and hit the most 3s in the league. He will play primarily at SF.

Majerle is a 3x All Star, 2x All-D, prolific 3pt shooter, thunderous dunker and perfect complement to a team full of superstars.

The early-mid 90s Suns had the best offense in the NBA, with Thunder Dan taking and making the most threes in the league in both 93 and 94 at a healthy 38%... largely off the back of kick outs from Barkley doubles.

Marjerle completes a roster that has no passengers on offense. Every single player adds something and demands attention on that end. His inclusion also ensures that I have an All-D option at every position, with my back up C also being All-D 1st team.

[Achilleas]

Gilbert Arenas as your floor general, Yikes :oldlol:

i will have it in the start of the game,and i can change him later when he score 30 points on nash :lol

bird will make kd cry with his trash talking :pimp:

[AussieSteve]

Team AussieSteve... Elite in every facet of the game.



Point Guard
Starter: 2014 Chris Paul
19 / 4 / 11 / 37%3pt / 58%ts
- All-NBA 1st
- All-D 1st
- led league in assists and steals
- doesn't turn the ball over
- shot 39% from 3pt on 3.8 attempts over the RS & PO combined

Reserve: 1993 Mark Price
18 / 3 / 8 / 42%3pt / 61%ts
- All-NBA 1st
- won the first of back-to-back 3pt contest wins
- can play back up PG or secondary ball handler / spot up shooter beside CP or Harden


Shooting Guard
Starter: 2018 James Harden
30 / 5 / 9 / 37%3pt / 62%ts
- All-NBA 1st
- MVP
- Scoring champion
- Led Rockets to 65 wins and almost to the finals
- might play off the bench with Cooper starting, if playing a team with a MJ / Kobe / Wade tier SG

Reserve: 1987 Michael Cooper
10 / 3 / 5 / 39%3pt / 54%ts
- All-D 1st
- DPOY
- shot 41% from 3pt over RS & PO combined, with the most makes of any player in the league
- could start alongside CP if defense in the back court is a priority


Small Forward
Starter: 1963 Elgin Baylor
34 / 14 / 5 / 52%ts
- All-NBA 1st
- Runner-up MVP
- GOAT rebounding at the SF position
- super athletic wing able score from anywhere and facilitate for others.

Reserve: 1993 Dan Majerle
17 / 5 / 4 / 38%3pt / 57%ts
- All Star
- All-D 2nd
- attempted and made the most 3 pointers in the league
- elite off-ball catch and shoot wing, who could also put the ball on the floor, get to the basket and throw down a monstrous dunk
- if defense at the 2 is an issue, then Majerle can play stretches at SG with Harden playing reduced minutes or at PG.


Power Forward
Starter: 1988 Charles Barkley
28 / 12 / 3 / 66%ts
- All-NBA 1st
- led league in offensive boards
- led the league in efg% and ts%
- arguably not the best version of Chuck but was completely unstoppable inside at this point of his career. What does the the defense do... send a hard double to Chuck and leave three 40% 3pt shooters waiting for the kick out, or let Chuck get to the basket and get And-1s all game long?
- Chuck was also a decent secondary rim protector at this point of his career and an animal on the offensive boards.

Reserve: 1975 Elvin Hayes
23 / 12 / 3 / 50%ts
- All-NBA 1st
- All-D 2nd
- Hayes was a monster on the boards, a great rim protector and his turnaround was jumper was automatic. He was a 1970s Karl Malone who could also block shots


Center
Starter: 1977 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
26 / 13 / 4 / 56%ts
- All-NBA 1st
- All-D 1st
- MVP
- averaged 35 / 18 on 61%efg in the playoffs
- probably the best all round center ever in terms of scoring, facilitating and defense as a package

Reserve: 1983 Moses Malone
25 / 15 / 2 / 58%ts
- All-NBA 1st
- All-D 1st
- MVP
- FMVP
- perhaps the greatest offensive rebounder of all time
- could play PF alongside Kareem for the GOAT twin towers tandem ever



Strengths
- Rebounding; particularly on the offensive boards. The number of 2nd chances this team would get on offense is insane. At any given time, this team is almost certain to have two of the best three rebounders on the floor.
- Inside scoring. Chuck, Kareem, Moses, Hayes. Enough said.
- Perimeter shooting. All four guards and Majerle are very good to ATG 3-point shooters. That's five guys capable of lighting it up from outside.
- Interior defense. Kareem, Moses and Hayes are all All-D selections, averaging >2 blocks per game. Chuck was tough to move in the post and blocked plenty of shots c.1988 also.
- Perimeter defense. Cooper is DPOY; CP3 is All-D 1st team. Both back court positions covered. Majerle is also All-D and can guard the 2 or 3.

Weaknesses
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[DaHeezy]

Update picks please. My go?

[SouBeachTalents]

Update picks please. My go?
Yeah, you got the last pick of the draft

[TheMan]

Lol at Kyle Korver going ahead of much better overall players that still hadn't/haven't been picked like Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Bernard King, Ron Harper, Tim Hardaway, Joe Dumars...:oldlol:

If y'all going by years as some of you have put the version of said player...no 2010 Derrick Rose? Dude was an absolute beast pre injury.

[1987_Lakers]

Lol at Kyle Korver going ahead of much better overall players that still hadn't/haven't been picked like Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Bernard King, Ron Harper, Tim Hardaway, Joe Dumars...:oldlol:

If y'all going by years as some of you have put the version of said player...no 2010 Derrick Rose? Dude was an absolute beast pre injury.
You mean 2011 D-Rose

[DaHeezy]

I'll take Rasheed Wallace for my last pick.

[DaHeezy]

Team:

PG- John Stockton, Allen Iverson
SG- Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson, Glen Rice
SF- Scottie Pippen, Dominique Wilkins, Glen Rice
PF- Chris Webber, Rasheed Wallace
C- Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning

Deep talent.

[TheMan]

Team:

PG- John Stockton, Allen Iverson
SG- Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson, Glen Rice
SF- Scottie Pippen, Dominique Wilkins, Glen Rice
PF- Chris Webber, Rasheed Wallace
C- Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning

Deep talent.
C is elite D but not much fire power, though Zo was legit but George Mikan?

I kid

[Gotterdammerung]

Here's my lineup analyses: Starting lineup means a lineup that works on most teams or plays the majority of minutes, since it presents the most problems on offense and is at least competent defensively. But should the circumstances demand it, I will switch to a small ball lineup, or a hurry-up offense in order to keep up with high powered offensive teams

[DaHeezy]

C is elite D but not much fire power, though Zo was legit but George Mikan?

I kid

Don't need a post up game when you got MJ dominating the paint or Stockton running pick and rolls with Webber and Sheed. Webber on his own always gave the business to Garnett and Duncan. Bulls never had a dominant post scorer to run their succesful offense. Plus Iverson and Nique off the bench provide enough firepower to sustain.

And when you have Stockon you just need to catch the ball.

[Manny98]

Lol at Kyle Korver going ahead of much better overall players that still hadn't/haven't been picked like Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Bernard King, Ron Harper, Tim Hardaway, Joe Dumars...:oldlol:

If y'all going by years as some of you have put the version of said player...no 2010 Derrick Rose? Dude was an absolute beast pre injury.
Can any of those players shoot like Korver?

[DaHeezy]

I don't know why the critique about being soft in the middle when the defensive system is the best in this while draft.

Jordan, Stockton, and Pippen on the perimeter locking down, and if someone does break through you have the best face up shot blocker of all time. And if you want to add to that defensive depth Zo played PF with Deke at Georgetown.

My team is definitely the toughest to score against hands down.

[And1AllDay]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shit was p laughs tho :oldlol: :oldlol:

Nikka said that with Malone, Magic and Worthy as his shooters

[And1AllDay]

Lol at Kyle Korver going ahead of much better overall players that still hadn't/haven't been picked like Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Bernard King, Ron Harper, Tim Hardaway, Joe Dumars...:oldlol:

If y'all going by years as some of you have put the version of said player...no 2010 Derrick Rose? Dude was an absolute beast pre injury.

Yeah I love Manny he my boy but that was a p funny pick :oldlol:

[Manny98]

I don't know why the critique about being soft in the middle when the defensive system is the best in this while draft.

Jordan, Stockton, and Pippen on the perimeter locking down, and if someone does break through you have the best face up shot blocker of all time. And if you want to add to that defensive depth Zo played PF with Deke at Georgetown.

My team is definitely the toughest to score against hands down.
Your team is the easiest to defend against, you literally have no shooting outside of Rice :lol

[AussieSteve]

I don't know why the critique about being soft in the middle when the defensive system is the best in this while draft.

Jordan, Stockton, and Pippen on the perimeter locking down, and if someone does break through you have the best face up shot blocker of all time. And if you want to add to that defensive depth Zo played PF with Deke at Georgetown.

My team is definitely the toughest to score against hands down.

You have guys who are in the conversation as the greatest defenders all time at their position at PG, SG and C, with solid D elsewhere also. I agree you've got arguably the best defense here.

But you might have the weakest team offensively.

[AussieSteve]

So what do we do now?

Have a vote or poll to see who wins?

[Manny98]

I'd say Southbeach has the best overall team imo

[AussieSteve]

Are there some metrics that we can rank teams by to try and assess. Maybe a 5 star system.

Metrics could be things like interior D, perimeter D, shooting, inside scoring, rebounding, defenisve depth, scoring depth, intangibles, star power (or X factor)

Probably wouldnt need any more. This is probably already too many.

Thoughts?

[1987_Lakers]

I think we should just make a poll. I think people have lost interest now that the draft is over, I would hate if each of us voted matchup by matchup, you know some people will just flake.

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

Please could SouBeachTalents and iamgine post their lineups.


I will then post our lineups in one post, everyone will then rank the teams 1st - 9th, and vote the winner for categories (Best Inside scoring, Best Outside scoring, Best Inside defense, Best Perimeter defense, Best Rebounding).

[iamgine]

Starting:

G Payton
G Curry
F Kawhi
F/C AD
C Walton

Reserve:

G Oladipo
F Mchale
C Sabonis

F/G Pierce
G/F J.Butler

[SouBeachTalents]

PG- 1985 Isiah Thomas | 2006 Chauncey Billups
SG- 1995 Reggie Miller | 1989 Dale Ellis
SF- 2004 Ron Artest | 2019 Paul George
PF- 2011 Dirk Nowitzki | 2013 Chris Bosh
C- 1994 Hakeem Olajuwon | 2004 Ben Wallace

[TheMan]

Can any of those players shoot like Korver?
There is more to an elite player than just pure shooting skills, noob :oldlol:

KK aside from pure shooting is average at best at other facets of the game...I would pick, say Mitch Richmond a dozen times over KK, and most hoops fans who aren't low IQs like you, would too.

This is after all the All Time NBA Draft, dummy :lol

KK, no matter how good of a 3pt specialist he was, shouldn't be anywhere in this list, ROFL...wait, my turn, lemme pick Steve Kerr! Lol

[DaHeezy]

Your team is the easiest to defend against, you literally have no shooting outside of Rice :lol

The offense I created is about systems. The triangle only required 1 shooter on the floor. Stockton is more than capable. Also having Stockton involved in the most unstoppable pick and roll of all time, he can run that with Webber. You also have Jordan. I don't see any problem scoring. The offense is designed perfectly for Jordan.

Like I said, this draft emphasized defense and shooting so much that people didn't think about chemistry or efficiency.

Think of all you teams that went heavy shooting, how you gonna shoot when Pippen, Stockton, and Jordan are locking down the perimeter? Meanwhile the floor chemistry will out the business on anyone.

[TheMan]

The offense I created is about systems. The triangle only required 1 shooter on the floor. Stockton is more than capable. Also having Stockton involved in the most unstoppable pick and roll of all time, he can run that with Webber. You also have Jordan. I don't see any problem scoring. The offense is designed perfectly for Jordan.

Like I said, this draft emphasized defense and shooting so much that people didn't think about chemistry or efficiency.

Think of all you teams that went heavy shooting, how you gonna shoot when Pippen, Stockton, and Jordan are locking down the perimeter? Meanwhile the floor chemistry will out the business on anyone.
Bruh, he picked Kyle Korver with his 5th pick :roll:

He forgot that KK would also try to defend elite players in this scenario.

Don't waste your time with him :facepalm

[DaHeezy]

Bruh, he picked Kyle Korver with his 5th pick :roll:

He forgot that KK would also try to defend elite players in this scenario.

Don't waste your time with him :facepalm

Lol, that was a head scratcher. It reminded me of when Barkley took Iverson 1st round in an all time NBA draft

[KobesFinger]

I wish I was active when this draft started, I remember having fun with these and recognise some of the names. My opinion:

Best rebounding team: AussieSteve or Gotterdammerung
Best perimeter D: DaHeezy
Best interior D: Manny98
Best inside scoring: Achilleas
Best outside scoring: Manny98 or iamgine

But I don't think Manny98 has the best team

Best pick - Clyde Drexler in R7 - usually in the top 4-7 SGs all time
Worst pick - Kyle Korver in R5 - other great shooters on board at time

Why don't you guys use WhatIf Sports? Is it still running?

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

Achilleas

PG : ARENAS,PISTOL MARAVICH,IGGY
SG : KLAY,ARENAS,IGGY,PISTOL
SG : DOCTOR,BARRY,BIRD,IGGY,KLAY
PF : BIRD,GASOL,BARRY,DOCTOR,DUNCAN
C : DUNCAN,YAO,GASOL


Manny 98

PG - Nash | Blaylock
SG - Moncrief | Korver
SF - Marion | Hill
PF - KD | Lewis
C - Robinson | Dwight


Gottadammerung

Robertson | Frazier
Petrovic | Thompson
Bryant | Houston
McAdoo | Horry
Chamberlain | Thurmond


1987_Lakers

G - '03 Kidd | '17 Irving
G - '03 McGrady | '08 Ginobili
F - '13 LeBron | '05 Bowen
F - '04 Garnett | '77 B. Jones
C - '90 Ewing | '82 Parish


Hakeem Olajuwon

PG Magic JOHNSON, Dennis JOHNSON
SG Ray ALLEN, Clyde DREXLER
SF John HAVLICEK, James WORTHY
PF Karl MALONE, Dennis RODMAN
C Bill RUSSELL, Willis REED


NBA GOAT

68 West/19 Lillard
09 Wade/01 Carter
04 Peja/04 Kirilenko
16 Green/19 Giannis
00 Shaq/18 Horford


DaHeezy

PG- John Stockton, Allen Iverson
SG- Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson, Glen Rice
SF- Scottie Pippen, Dominique Wilkins, Glen Rice
PF- Chris Webber, Rasheed Wallace
C- Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning


AussieSteve

PG- 14 Chris Paul, 93 Mark Price
SG- 18 James Harden, 87 Michael Cooper
SF- 63 Elgin Baylor, 93 Dan Majerle
PF- 88 Charles Barkley, 75 Elvin Hayes
C- 77 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 83 Moses
Malone


iamgine

G Payton
G Curry
F Kawhi
F/C AD
C Walton
Reserve:
G Oladipo
G/F Butler
F/G Pierce
F Mchale
C Sabonis


SouBeachTalents

PG- 1985 Isiah Thomas | 2006 Chauncey Billups
SG- 1995 Reggie Miller | 1989 Dale Ellis
SF- 2004 Ron Artest | 2019 Paul George
PF- 2011 Dirk Nowitzki | 2013 Chris Bosh
C- 1994 Hakeem Olajuwon | 2004 Ben Wallace


Best Team
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th
9th

Best Inside scoring -
Best Outside scoring -
Best Inside defense -
Best Perimeter defense -
Best Rebounding -

[AussieSteve]

I wish I was active when this draft started, I remember having fun with these and recognise some of the names. My opinion:

Best rebounding team: AussieSteve or Gotterdammerung
Best perimeter D: DaHeezy
Best interior D: Manny98
Best inside scoring: Achilleas
Best outside scoring: Manny98 or iamgine

But I don't think Manny98 has the best team

Best pick - Clyde Drexler in R7 - usually in the top 4-7 SGs all time
Worst pick - Kyle Korver in R5 - other great shooters on board at time

Why don't you guys use WhatIf Sports? Is it still running?



I don't see how I cannot have the best rebounding and best inside scoring.

Barkley, Kareem, Moses and Hayes all won rebounding titles either the year of my selection or a year before / after. And Baylor was probably the best rebounder at SF of all time.

In terms of inside scoring, the above four guys were all bigs who perennially scored 25+ppg. Add the fact that Moses, Barkley and Hayes were all offensive rebounding champs also, and my inside scoring is off the charts. Certainly better that Duncan, Yao, Gasol that Achilleas has up front.

[Manny98]

I wish I was active when this draft started, I remember having fun with these and recognise some of the names. My opinion:

Best rebounding team: AussieSteve or Gotterdammerung
Best perimeter D: DaHeezy
Best interior D: Manny98
Best inside scoring: Achilleas
Best outside scoring: Manny98 or iamgine

But I don't think Manny98 has the best team

Best pick - Clyde Drexler in R7 - usually in the top 4-7 SGs all time
Worst pick - Kyle Korver in R5 - other great shooters on board at time

Why don't you guys use WhatIf Sports? Is it still running?
Where do you rank my team out of curiosity?

[Manny98]

There is more to an elite player than just pure shooting skills, noob :oldlol:

KK aside from pure shooting is average at best at other facets of the game...I would pick, say Mitch Richmond a dozen times over KK, and most hoops fans who aren't low IQs like you, would too.

This is after all the All Time NBA Draft, dummy :lol

KK, no matter how good of a 3pt specialist he was, shouldn't be anywhere in this list, ROFL...wait, my turn, lemme pick Steve Kerr! Lol
Korver moves without the ball better than pretty much anyone ever

Why would i want Mitch Ritchmond whos a inferior shooter and can't move without the ball.

It's about putting together the best possible team in terms of how the pieces fit on the basketball court

Why do you think guys picked role players like Bruce Bowen over former MVPs?

[Manny98]

Bruh, he picked Kyle Korver with his 5th pick :roll:

He forgot that KK would also try to defend elite players in this scenario.

Don't waste your time with him :facepalm
I have Sidney Moncrief and Mookie Baylock + the best interior D of this draft

I'm good defensively

[Achilleas]

Best Inside scoring -
Best Outside scoring -
Best Inside defense -
Best Perimeter defense -
Best Rebounding -[/B]

why do we need to post best about that
for example
1 can have be the best in one of these and in all others be the worst
and onther can be second in all these

score the teamsin rankings can be done with pms ;
tommorow i will see all teams and see who will win 1vs 1 with each other,and detrermine the ranks from the wins

[Manny98]

1st SouBeach
2nd Iamgine
3rd 1987 Lakers
4th NBAGOAT
5th AussieSteve
6th Daheezy
7th Achilles
8th Gottedammerung
9th Hakeem

Best Inside scoring - AussieSteve
Best Outside scoring - Southbeach
Best Inside defense - Gottedammerung
Best Perimeter defense - Iamgine
Best Rebounding -Hakeem

My rankings are based on playing with todays rules

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

We’ll be doing a current draft next based on today’s rules and performances.

[Gotterdammerung]

Like I said earlier.

My team will destroy every damn fool's motley crew here
:kobe:

[KobesFinger]

[QUOTE=Hakeem Olajuwon]We

[DaHeezy]

Start a new thread and ask impartial judges to make a ranking

[LostCause]

I’d be down to participate in or judge the next one

Though someone brought up whatifsports. If that’s still running then running sims would probably be the best way to pick a winner

[Hakeem Olajuwon]

What's that, current players only?
Yes, based on the 2018-19 regular season/playoffs.

[NBAGOAT]

Balance it out, 50% on what if 50% on impartial votes. If we can

[DaHeezy]

Whatif is skued. Had I known we'd use that I would have picked differently. But hey, works for me. It's slanted towards Jordan