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bladefd

09-19-2019, 01:31 AM

Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson determined that the complaint was credible and troubling enough to be considered a matter of "urgent concern," a legal threshold that requires notification of congressional oversight committees, the Post said.

But the acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire has refused to share details about the complaint with lawmakers, the Post reported.

Maguire has defended his refusal by asserting that the subject of the complaint is beyond his jurisdiction, the Post said.

Huge red flag.. "Urgent concern" that DNI will not share with Congress because it's above his jurisdiction. So whose jurisdiction is it to bring it up to Congress??

DaHeezy

09-19-2019, 02:52 AM

Can you imagine being fixated on someone for 3 years and can't do anything to bring him down?

Reminds me of one of my retarded followers

tomtucker

09-19-2019, 03:06 AM

[QUOTE=andgar923]A whistleblower is risking jail time if not their life exposing
a troubling promise Trump made to a foreign leader. There

coin24

09-19-2019, 03:08 AM

[QUOTE=RRR3]Trump absolutely has to go but I

TheMan

09-19-2019, 08:49 AM

OMG, you guys need to calm the fukk down :facepalm

Trump is absolutely vulnerable, just vote him out next year. Meanwhile, live your lives like most normal people do...it's alright, you'll survive.

Patrick Chewing

09-19-2019, 09:33 AM

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OnlyAdorableAoudad-small.gif

https://media1.tenor.com/images/a6425894527b9e43a5be9e46a06dbd2c/tenor.gif

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtqKSwO3LqqYT5K/giphy.gif

rufuspaul

09-19-2019, 09:42 AM

From CNN:

the President's sweeping powers in foreign policy conferred by the Constitution and a democratic mandate give him wide latitude to say whatever he likes to a foreign leader. American presidents have been making promises to their counterparts on the world stage for generations. It's a practice that might be said to be part of their job.

OMG this could be as big as the Mueller Report!!!!

andgar923

09-19-2019, 12:38 PM

From CNN:

OMG this could be as big as the Mueller Report!!!!
What did he promise?

If it wasn

andgar923

09-19-2019, 12:54 PM

Worth noting... the person fighting the DNI is a Trump appointee.

Long Duck Dong

09-19-2019, 01:12 PM

Ever wonder how severely Andgar's mental health has been damaged by Trump's presidency? :lol

Really how much has anyone's life changed under Trump versus Obama or Bush? Yet thousands of snowflakes say they are suffering from toxic stress caused by Trump. Just take another puff and wait it out you pvssies.

rufuspaul

09-19-2019, 01:23 PM

Facepalm

09-19-2019, 02:53 PM

qrich

09-19-2019, 03:01 PM

January 20th, 2017 is when the traitor left.

sd3035

09-19-2019, 03:38 PM

Lol classic case of Trump Derangement syndrome

Someone should call ICE on this dude :applause:

Long Duck Dong

09-19-2019, 03:45 PM

How much has your life changed because of Mexicans?

Mexicans or illegal aliens? Half my gf's family is from Culiacan

bladefd

09-19-2019, 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=andgar923]What did he promise?

If it wasn

andgar923

09-19-2019, 04:22 PM

RRR3

09-19-2019, 04:34 PM

“Me! Me! Me! Me!”

That’s GOP

It only matters until it affects them.

Why can’t I just care about others and well... the country.

You traitors care more about a ball team than a traitor pillaging the country into dust.
:applause:

Trump supporters are just inhumanly selfish.

SomeBlackDude

09-19-2019, 04:51 PM

why is it so hard for maga and their gawd emperor to just be loyal to 'murrica? :biggums:

BREAKING: Intelligence Inspector General Michael Atkinson told lawmakers during a private briefing that the #WhistleblowerComplaint involves a series of actions by Trump that go beyond any single discussion with a foreign leader.

boiled down (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61fsW4xxkZE)

TheMan

09-19-2019, 05:02 PM

Mexicans or illegal aliens? Half my gf's family is from Culiacan
Them Sinaloa girls are fine...should take a vacation there so you could see for yourself.

bladefd

09-19-2019, 05:40 PM

why is it so hard for maga and their gawd emperor to just be loyal to 'murrica? :biggums:

boiled down (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61fsW4xxkZE)

We will find out much more in detail once Lil Donny is out of office and the books start releasing from members of his administration.. Right around the time jokers like longdong, rufus, patty & all Republicans distance themselves from ever supporting Lil Donny..

January 1, 2021 comes..
"Trump who?? I don't know any Trump"
-Republicans

:coleman:

tpols

09-19-2019, 05:44 PM

just fix orange man bad under your title and quit making these threads mate...

we gettt it sheesh.

MaxFly

09-19-2019, 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=andgar923]A whistleblower is risking jail time if not their life exposing
a troubling promise Trump made to a foreign leader. There

MaxFly

09-19-2019, 06:35 PM

OMG, you guys need to calm the fukk down :facepalm

Trump is absolutely vulnerable, just vote him out next year. Meanwhile, live your lives like most normal people do...it's alright, you'll survive.

I'm willing to bet that there are a few Republicans and Democrats who secretly, yet wholeheartedly agree with this. They're likely hoping that as all of this gets normalized and firmly entrenched in our governance, they will be able to exploit the same oversight shortcomings when they take power. Anyone who thinks that simply voting Trump out of office is where this ends is naive. The Overton window of accepted political behavior has shifted considerably, and it will be difficult to reign it in.

What a time to be alive.

MaxFly

09-19-2019, 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=andgar923]

Long Duck Dong

09-19-2019, 07:03 PM

Them Sinaloa girls are fine...should take a vacation there so you could see for yourself.

She invited me to her cousin's wedding last December. Said thanks but no thanks to those Culichis. I ain't traveling to the land of El Chapo. :oldlol:

You are right about the women though. Fine AF. The women in the wedding pictures were crazy beautiful and feminine.

SomeBlackDude

09-19-2019, 07:05 PM

I'm interested to see what the intelligence community inspector general found so disturbing.

take your pick. :lol

i'm sure much of the results of those over the phone promises are publicly known.

prime example- the emperor spoke on the phone to overseer vlad on july 31. maga initially lied and said the phone call was about wildfires in siberia (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/white-house-acknowledges-trump-putin-phone-call-says-it-was-about-wildfires.html). ala the adoption story from the '16 tower meeting. :lol

few days later (aug 2), 'murrica pulled out of the inf nuclear treaty (https://www.state.gov/u-s-withdrawal-from-the-inf-treaty-on-august-2-2019/) with rusher. few weeks later, big vlad said he was planning a big buildup of rushian missile/nuclear arsenals (https://news.usni.org/2019/08/21/putin-pledges-russian-response-to-u-s-cruise-missile-test) as a response to a US test.

maybe the emperor promised to not only kill the inf, but to also launch some tests to give his boss cover for his arsenal buildup.

or.

july 25, the emperor had a call with volodymyr zelensky.

late aug, he stopped a planned sale of weapons to ukraine (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531) (meant as a way to buffer rushian incursions in the country). at around the same time, rudy g was meeting with ukrainians to collude against sleepy joe (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/giuliani-ukraine-lawyer-meeting/index.html).

not crazy to think the emperor promised to give the weapons to ukraine if they gave him the dirt he and rudy were looking for.

after today's hearing, we know it wasn't just a single call or issue.

could be anything and everything.

it never ends.

qrich

09-19-2019, 07:06 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/16h6g3.jpg

What a day :applause:

MaxFly

09-19-2019, 07:07 PM

We will find out much more in detail once Lil Donny is out of office and the books start releasing from members of his administration.. Right around the time jokers like longdong, rufus, patty & all Republicans distance themselves from ever supporting Lil Donny..

January 1, 2021 comes..
"Trump who?? I don't know any Trump"
-Republicans

:coleman:

We're already there with a few exes from his administration.

Tillerson: Netanyahu 'played' Trump with misinformation (https://news.yahoo.com/netanyahu-played-trump-misinformation-tillerson-160927885.html)

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu skillfully "played" US President Donald Trump by plying him with inaccurate information, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson said.

Tillerson, who was fired by Trump last year, made the observations during a forum Tuesday at Harvard University as reported by The Harvard Gazette, the university's official news outlet.

"In dealing with Bibi, it's always useful to carry a healthy amount of skepticism in your discussions with him," he was quoted as saying, using Netanyahu's nickname.

"They did that with the president on a couple of occasions, to persuade him that 'We're the good guys, they're the bad guys.'

"We later exposed it to the president so he understood, 'You've been played,'" Tillerson said, according to the newspaper.

"It bothers me that an ally that's that close and important to us would do that to us," he said.

SomeBlackDude

09-19-2019, 07:19 PM

We're already there with a few exes from his administration.

lol, speaking of bibi. looks like his election fiasco means he might not be saved from the prosecutorial guillotine like he was hoping.

Israel Election Results: With Indictment Around the Corner, Netanyahu Is at the Mercy of the Attorney General (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-with-an-indictment-around-the-corner-netanyahu-is-at-the-mercy-of-the-ag-1.7860687)

is his life now a look at the ghost of maga future? :eek:

bladefd

09-19-2019, 07:36 PM

lol, speaking of bibi. looks like his election fiasco means he might not be saved from the prosecutorial guillotine like he was hoping.

Israel Election Results: With Indictment Around the Corner, Netanyahu Is at the Mercy of the Attorney General (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-with-an-indictment-around-the-corner-netanyahu-is-at-the-mercy-of-the-ag-1.7860687)

is his life now a look at the ghost of maga future? :eek:

Bibi is a piece of sh!t who is smart when it comes to playing his opponents. He went to MIT and was friends with Lil Donny's daddy. Bibi has to be seen as one of our adversaries..

SomeBlackDude

09-19-2019, 07:46 PM

Bibi is a piece of sh!t who is smart when it comes to playing his opponents. He went to MIT and was friends with Lil Donny's daddy. Bibi has to be seen as one of our adversaries..

presidential/pm immunity is a helluva drug.

these dudes think they can just commit crimes forever and never have to face the music.

https://media.tenor.com/images/b7331e231120c221bfcb893ed1adf5b2/tenor.gif

at least bibi won't be snitching/taking a plea (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/.premium-netanyahu-says-no-intention-of-seeking-plea-bargain-in-corruption-cases-1.7865855).

dude is a real gangsta.

the anti tekashi.

i wish him good fortune in the trials to come.

:cheers:

Facepalm

09-19-2019, 08:19 PM

The story is coming out. It has something to do with the Ukraine and Trump looking for dirt on Biden there.

andgar923

09-19-2019, 08:21 PM

take your pick. :lol

i'm sure much of the results of those over the phone promises are publicly known.

prime example- the emperor spoke on the phone to overseer vlad on july 31. maga initially lied and said the phone call was about wildfires in siberia (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/white-house-acknowledges-trump-putin-phone-call-says-it-was-about-wildfires.html). ala the adoption story from the '16 tower meeting. :lol

few days later (aug 2), 'murrica pulled out of the inf nuclear treaty (https://www.state.gov/u-s-withdrawal-from-the-inf-treaty-on-august-2-2019/) with rusher. few weeks later, big vlad said he was planning a big buildup of rushian missile/nuclear arsenals (https://news.usni.org/2019/08/21/putin-pledges-russian-response-to-u-s-cruise-missile-test) as a response to a US test.

maybe the emperor promised to not only kill the inf, but to also launch some tests to give his boss cover for his arsenal buildup.

or.

july 25, the emperor had a call with volodymyr zelensky.

late aug, he stopped a planned sale of weapons to ukraine (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531) (meant as a way to buffer rushian incursions in the country). at around the same time, rudy g was meeting with ukrainians to collude against sleepy joe (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/giuliani-ukraine-lawyer-meeting/index.html).

not crazy to think the emperor promised to give the weapons to ukraine if they gave him the dirt he and rudy were looking for.

after today's hearing, we know it wasn't just a single call or issue.

could be anything and everything.

it never ends.

According to reports it's the Ukraine situation.

Not sure exactly what it was, but it was dire/serious enough for someone HE picked to join his administration to raise the alert. It's important enough for Barr to fight it. It's important enough that the intelligence communities are very cautious about the issue. It's important enough that they're starting to soften us up.

andgar923

09-19-2019, 08:22 PM

The story is coming out. It has something to do with the Ukraine and Trump looking for dirt on Biden there.
Naw... it might be more serious than that.

Dirt on Biden won't be this dire (or so it appears from early reports)

andgar923

09-19-2019, 08:29 PM

Naw... it might be more serious than that.

Dirt on Biden won't be this dire (or so it appears from early reports)
Apparently it is in regards to Biden.

But apparently he was threatening to withhold aid in order to get information on Biden.:facepalm :banghead:

How stupid can he be???

He is investigated because he was seeking aid from Russia to get info on Clinton.

Again....

He is investigated because he was seeking aid from Russia to get info on Clinton.

He is investigated because he was seeking aid from Russia to get info on Clinton.

He is investigated because he was seeking aid from Russia to get info on Clinton.

And the idiot does this shit!!!

How stupid can he be???

andgar923

09-19-2019, 08:38 PM

Don't forget...

It was a 'series of actions' that prompted the alert, not just a single call.

What else did he do? how many actions?

RRR3

09-19-2019, 08:39 PM

Apparently it is in regards to Biden.

But apparently he was threatening to withhold aid in order to get information on Biden.:facepalm :banghead:

How stupid can he be???

He is investigated because he was seeking aid from Russia to get info on Clinton.

Again....

He is investigated because he was seeking aid from Russia to get info on Clinton.

He is investigated because he was seeking aid from Russia to get info on Clinton.

He is investigated because he was seeking aid from Russia to get info on Clinton.

And the idiot those this shit!!!

How stupid can he be???
Unfortunately nothing will happen to Trump for any of this.

Facepalm

09-19-2019, 09:07 PM

Unfortunately nothing will happen to Trump for any of this.
This. All you can do is vote.

TheMan

09-19-2019, 10:27 PM

I'm willing to bet that there are a few Republicans and Democrats who secretly, yet wholeheartedly agree with this. They're likely hoping that as all of this gets normalized and firmly entrenched in our governance, they will be able to exploit the same oversight shortcomings when they take power. Anyone who thinks that simply voting Trump out of office is where this ends is naive. The Overton window of accepted political behavior has shifted considerably, and it will be difficult to reign it in.

What a time to be alive.
ROFL :roll:

Bruh, I've seen politics long enough to have noticed several trends in modern times...

GOP POTUS are always potrayed (with few exceptions) as dimwitted but strong, Reagan, GWB and now Trump. Democrats are always smart but weak, Carter, Clinton and Obama. Its like its a role they're playing...

If you think a GOP congress will stand around and do nothing while the next Dem president does even 1/10th of the shit Trump has done, then you are naive. Democrats are spineless, the GOP are dirty af and play to win. Bush/Cheney and Co. weren't ever even investigated for lying us into a war nor for war crimes, nothing is happening to Trump, only voting his ass out is the only option left.

TheMan

09-19-2019, 10:32 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/16h6g3.jpg

What a day :applause:
You're as triggered by Obama as the lefties with TDS...are you still suffering from ODS? :lol

Facepalm

09-19-2019, 10:49 PM

You're as triggered by Obama as the lefties with TDS...are you still suffering from ODS? :lol
Obama been out of office for 3 years and MAGAttes still can't stop talking about him, especially the top MAGAtte himself. Must burn Trump's soul knowing he will never reach Obama's popularity. Can't keep Barry's name out of his mouth :oldlol:

Patrick Chewing

09-19-2019, 11:14 PM

qrich

09-19-2019, 11:21 PM

You're as triggered by Obama as the lefties with TDS...are you still suffering from ODS? :lol

Thread is about the traitor leaving.

I'm showing that the racist has been gone for a while : confusedshrug:

TheMan

09-19-2019, 11:21 PM

:oldlol:

Uhhh hate to break it to ya, Trump is by far more popular than Obama.
Now you're just being delusional :roll:

scuzzy

09-19-2019, 11:27 PM

nah, rather see him get roasted in the next election

it'll be more fun and dangerous

Patrick Chewing

09-19-2019, 11:29 PM

Now you're just being delusional :roll:

Is this really a debate though? Trump is on the news 24/7 and he's been popular for the last 40 years. Obama was a nobody that nobody knew prior to his Presidency.

TheMan

09-20-2019, 12:23 AM

Is this really a debate though? Trump is on the news 24/7 and he's been popular for the last 40 years. Obama was a nobody that nobody knew prior to his Presidency.
https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/01/04/inauguration-crowds/9e038837b6bddf59b47212f9df94eff0cf6bbdee/peak_obama_from_wash-mon.jpg
Obama's inauguration

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/01/04/inauguration-crowds/9e038837b6bddf59b47212f9df94eff0cf6bbdee/peak-trump-from-wash-mon.jpg
Trump's inauguration

:confusedshrug:

SomeBlackDude

09-20-2019, 12:36 AM

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/01/04/inauguration-crowds/9e038837b6bddf59b47212f9df94eff0cf6bbdee/peak-trump-from-wash-mon.jpg
Trump's inauguration

:confusedshrug:

fake news. :no:

maga's inauguration was the most highly attended event in the history of mankind. many people are saying the entire universe. tremendous crowds like you've never seen before.

https://i.postimg.cc/vBJ9k06V/vO6JbMK.jpg

bladefd

09-20-2019, 02:20 AM

:oldlol:

Uhhh hate to break it to ya, Trump is by far more popular than Obama.

Trump lost popular vote by over 3 million to Hillary. Obama wiped the floor of Romney and if he could run again in 2016, he would have destroyed Lil Donny :pimp:

qrich

09-20-2019, 03:12 AM

Trump lost popular vote by over 3 million to Hillary. Obama wiped the floor of Romney and if he could run again in 2016, he would have destroyed Lil Donny :pimp:

Like he did race relations in the country :pimp:

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 03:15 AM

ROFL :roll:

Bruh, I've seen politics long enough to have noticed several trends in modern times...

GOP POTUS are always potrayed (with few exceptions) as dimwitted but strong, Reagan, GWB and now Trump. Democrats are always smart but weak, Carter, Clinton and Obama. Its like its a role they're playing...

If you think a GOP congress will stand around and do nothing while the next Dem president does even 1/10th of the shit Trump has done, then you are naive. Democrats are spineless, the GOP are dirty af and play to win. Bush/Cheney and Co. weren't ever even investigated for lying us into a war nor for war crimes, nothing is happening to Trump, only voting his ass out is the only option left.

Two things. First, consistently highlighting and hammering on these incidents provides a consistent stream of fodder in regard to how severely unfit Trump has been and continues to be for office... and aids, not detracts, in the will of the electorate eventually voting him out off office. There are certainly many Americans who are neither paying attention nor care about some of these things, but there is an increasing number who do. These sorts of incidents firmly put Trump, and his defenders, on the defensive, and prevents them from controlling the news cycle. And yes, Republicans tend to get away with some wild behavior, but Trump's poor current standing is not simply a result of the slowing economy or because people want better health insurance options. Democrats should continue to use every tool in their arsenal to attempt to hold Trump accountable for the sake of holding him accountable, and quite frankly, it's also great for them politically.

Secondly, what we are seeing now is vastly different from what we have seen before. Bush and Cheney lying about Iraq and getting away with it was to be expected given all of the shenanigans that took place around Vietnam for instance, or Iran Contra. Administrations, unfortunately, have always been given wide latitude regarding their foreign policy dealings, and the kid gloves especially come out when it comes to war. But with Trump, we have likely crossed a rubicon in terms of acceptable behavior because many of these scandals center on his personal behavior both in and out of office. Republicans and backers in general have been forced to defend, dismiss, ignore and pretend not to know about a number of things Trump has done. It's not a matter of looking like hypocrites in the future - they have little shame... they don't care about being hypocrites. It's a matter of how effective they will be in levying such attacks in the future when they have actively participated in making this behavior acceptable. It's akin to how ineffective Republicans were when complaining about Obama's vacations after all of Bush's vacation time. They've effectively neutered themselves on many of their favorite talking points due to Trump.

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 03:18 AM

:oldlol:

Uhhh hate to break it to ya, Trump is by far more popular than Obama.

Word?

https://i.ibb.co/BCnh85d/960x0.jpg

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 03:28 AM

Trump lost popular vote by over 3 million to Hillary. Obama wiped the floor of Romney and if he could run again in 2016, he would have destroyed Lil Donny :pimp:

It would have been a mollywopping.

dude77

09-20-2019, 06:33 AM

Obama been out of office for 3 years and MAGAttes still can't stop talking about him, especially the top MAGAtte himself. Must burn Trump's soul knowing he will never reach Obama's popularity. Can't keep Barry's name out of his mouth :oldlol:

:kobe:

trump gave obama the ultimate ether .. he can go to sleep every night with a big ass smile .. barry going on tv making jokes about 'at least I'll go down as president' .. cracking jokes on trump at that stupid dinner .. and trump calmly goes and takes his job and then obliterates almost everything he did as president including placing two of his own scj after obama got slapped around and shut down when he tried to nominate his own guy .. brutal takedown

SomeBlackDude

09-20-2019, 11:07 AM

sleepy joe has the maga familia SHOOK :eek:

[QUOTE][B][U]Ukrainian official confirms bombshell reports:

Norcaliblunt

09-20-2019, 11:35 AM

You all realize how ****ing stupid you are right?

Real Men Wear Green

09-20-2019, 12:00 PM

I guess it's possible but what I don't get is why he would be pressing the Ukraine when he could/should be asking Russia if they can do the job for him instead.

SomeBlackDude

09-20-2019, 12:08 PM

I guess it's possible but what I don't get is why he would be pressing the Ukraine when he could/should be asking Russia if they can do the job for him instead.

same difference.

the ukrainians that maga is affiliated with are just puppets for putin and his government.

much of the laundered rushian money that maga eats from is funneled through ukraine before heading off to cyprus and trump properties all over the world to be washed.

ArbitraryWater

09-20-2019, 12:11 PM

Trump lost popular vote by over 3 million to Hillary. Obama wiped the floor of Romney and if he could run again in 2016, he would have destroyed Lil Donny :pimp:

https://i.gyazo.com/78e559382ddd0d6881a7f56877dbd87b.png

TheMan

09-20-2019, 12:33 PM

:kobe:

trump gave obama the ultimate ether .. he can go to sleep every night with a big ass smile .. barry going on tv making jokes about 'at least I'll go down as president' .. cracking jokes on trump at that stupid dinner .. and trump calmly goes and takes his job and then obliterates almost everything he did as president including placing two of his own scj after obama got slapped around and shut down when he tried to nominate his own guy .. brutal takedown
First, he didn't take Obama's job from him, last I heard, HC ran against Trump.

Second, as soon as Trump is out, and there's a good chance it'll be next year, the next Dem POTUS will dismantle everything Trump did, and if he/she's a dick about it, could even go after Trump for all the shit he has done that this spineless Congress has failed to do.

Payback could be a bitch.

TheMan

09-20-2019, 12:59 PM

https://i.gyazo.com/78e559382ddd0d6881a7f56877dbd87b.png
Lol, fake

And since I assume you have no idea how the Electoral College works, voting 7 times in a state where one candidate was clearly ahead and the other had zero chance, is redundant. You get no brownie points for running up the score.

That tweet would be much more believable if it was from a state up in play, a swing state is how we call it here (FL or OH are good examples). Voting as a Dem a ton of times in NY is the same as a GOP voting numerous time in TX...it's a waste of time.

You're welcome.

Charlie Sheen

09-20-2019, 01:03 PM

First, he didn't take Obama's job from him, last I heard, HC ran against Trump.

Second, as soon as Trump is out, and there's a good chance it'll be next year, the next Dem POTUS will dismantle everything Trump did, and if he/she's a dick about it, could even go after Trump for all the shit he has done that this spineless Congress has failed to do.

Payback could be a bitch.

If any candidate ran on going after Trump criminally it would be as solid a promise as Trump campaigning to "lock her up!" and "drain the swamp"

TheMan

09-20-2019, 01:17 PM

If any candidate ran on going after Trump criminally it would be as solid a promise as Trump campaigning to "lock her up!" and "drain the swamp"
You don't have to run on that.

In other countries, a corrupt leader loses an election and then faces justice by a different administration and could end up in jail. Quick example...Lula Da Silva, all you need to do is your effing job.

:cheers:

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 01:37 PM

:kobe:

trump gave obama the ultimate ether .. he can go to sleep every night with a big ass smile .. barry going on tv making jokes about 'at least I'll go down as president' .. cracking jokes on trump at that stupid dinner .. and trump calmly goes and takes his job and then obliterates almost everything he did as president including placing two of his own scj after obama got slapped around and shut down when he tried to nominate his own guy .. brutal takedown

You realize that most, if not all of those EOs are going to be put right back into place once Trump is out, right... and that all of his EOs will be reversed. The funniest thing would be if someone like Elizabeth Warren takes the White House and does to Trump what he attempted to do to Obama.

And then there's the failure on getting rid of the ACA. :confusedshrug:

SomeBlackDude

09-20-2019, 01:38 PM

If any candidate ran on going after Trump criminally it would be as solid a promise as Trump campaigning to "lock her up!" and "drain the swamp"

major difference- there was never anything to 'lock her up' over.

You don't have to run on that.

In other countries, a corrupt leader loses an election and then faces justice by a different administration and could end up in jail. Quick example...Lula Da Silva, all you need to do is your effing job.

:cheers:

you don't have to go that far back. this week just gave us the blueprint.

pray for bibi (https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-lawyers-submit-defense-arguments-ahead-of-pre-indictment-hearing/) :(

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 01:40 PM

From CNN:

From CNN:

the President's sweeping powers in foreign policy conferred by the Constitution and a democratic mandate give him wide latitude to say whatever he likes to a foreign leader. American presidents have been making promises to their counterparts on the world stage for generations. It's a practice that might be said to be part of their job.
OMG this could be as big as the Mueller Report!!!!

If the updated reporting on this is accurate, does his wide latitude extend to possibly withholding US aid if the country receiving that aid refuses to investigate and sully the name of a political rival? Is that something you believe US Presidents should be doing?

SomeBlackDude

09-20-2019, 01:44 PM

If the updated reporting on this is accurate, does his wide latitude extend to possibly withholding US aid if the country receiving that aid refuses to investigate and sully the name of a political rival? Is that something you believe US Presidents should be doing?

you already know the answer.

https://media.giphy.com/media/vkPlZ0mU5Fl4I/giphy.gif

no one can question the loyalty of maga supporters. :applause:

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 01:45 PM

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 01:51 PM

I guess it's possible but what I don't get is why he would be pressing the Ukraine when he could/should be asking Russia if they can do the job for him instead.

Russia created a lot of headaches for him last time, and given that he has leverage over the Ukraine and Hunter Biden's company had dealings there, that's a better, less costly route.

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 02:08 PM

Rudy Giuliani making bad situations even worse, yet again. He really is terrible as an advocate.

Rudy Giuliani says he didn't ask Ukraine to investigate Biden — and then says he did (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-chris-cuomo-interview-did-not-ask-ukraine-to-investigate-biden-and-then-says-he-did-cnn-appearance/)

Just as the Washington Post reported that Ukraine was the subject of the mysterious whistleblower complaint causing a standoff between Congress and the intelligence community, President Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was appearing on CNN Thursday night. In a heated interview, he first said he didn't ask Ukrainian officials to investigate Joe Biden and his son for bribery and then, less than 30 seconds later, reversed himself and said "of course I did."

Giuliani said he wasn't ordered by Mr. Trump to investigate Biden and didn't inform the president of his investigation until after the fact.

And when pressed on whether Mr. Trump had agreed to provide aid to Ukraine only after it investigated Biden, Giuliani told Cuomo the president has "every right" to tell the president of another country that it would only receive American financial aid once corruption is eliminated.

SomeBlackDude

09-20-2019, 02:16 PM

Rudy Giuliani making bad situations even worse, yet again. He really is terrible as an advocate.

rudy is an sdny plant sent by the deep state to destroy maga from within.

wouldn't surprise me if he's the whistleblower.

:lol

In a heated interview, he first said he didn't ask Ukrainian officials to investigate Joe Biden and his son for bribery and then, less than 30 seconds later, reversed himself and said "of course I did."

maga is a helluva drug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC5LaHUnQMA)

Charlie Sheen

09-20-2019, 02:17 PM

You don't have to run on that.

In other countries, a corrupt leader loses an election and then faces justice by a different administration and could end up in jail. Quick example...Lula Da Silva, all you need to do is your effing job.

:cheers:
major difference- there was never anything to 'lock her up' over.

you don't have to go that far back. this week just gave us the blueprint.

pray for bibi (https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-lawyers-submit-defense-arguments-ahead-of-pre-indictment-hearing/) :(
Neither of you are wrong. I guess my point was that I don't believe career politician wants to open that door.

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 02:18 PM

you already know the answer.

A couple of options.

1. He doesn't come back to the thread.

2. He comes back but ignores the post and the general details of the issue, instead complaining about TDS while throwing around "orange man bad" and attacking other posters.

3. He dismisses the reporting as "fake news" and goes full whataboutism, likely trying to connect this with Clinton or Obama while throwing in a random "Presidents do this all the time... no big deal."

There's the off chance he acknowledges that this particular incident is problematic... but that's tiny, and doesn't even deserve a "4." bullet point.

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 02:22 PM

Neither of you are wrong. I guess my point was that I don't believe career politician wants to open that door.

Most don't, but I can easily see the next AG going hard... especially since there is a strong public appetite for that right now. And then there are the investigations being conducted by states.

andgar923

09-20-2019, 06:55 PM

So he's essentially without saying so (although he did in a roundabout way) stating that he's guilty of the charges by saying he can't be investigated for crimes.

So they went from denying, to well if he did so what, to well it's within his rights to talk to whomever about whatever, to well... Yeah f*ck ya'll anyway can't I can't be investigated for crimes.

And the sad part wasn't that Trump simply didn't have one convo with Ukrainian leader about it, but a reported 8 (was it 8?... off the top of my head) and that's what we know and what was heard. It's sad because he was STUPID enough to have these convos where he could be heard knowing full well that he's being investigated for the same shit involving Russia. If Im a MAGA Im exasperated that Im rooting for a troll that is a walking Onion headline, an embarrassment that of an idiot that can't even lie properly or consistently.

He's a TRAITOR plain and simple.
A Russian puppet, a mole, a tool that is constantly mocked by the Russians as being their willing idiot.

But MAGA!

MaxFly

09-20-2019, 11:20 PM

So let's just boil all the latest news and reporting down to the basics...

Trump, in his pursuit of a second term as President, asked a foreign power to help him by attacking a political enemy who is running against him.

:confusedshrug:

Facepalm

09-20-2019, 11:45 PM

rufuspaul

09-21-2019, 08:39 AM

No way to sugar coat this. This is bad. It's almost as bad as a sitting president using US spy agencies to spy on a presidential candidate.

bladefd

09-21-2019, 10:55 AM

Trumpeters mounting a 'Lil Donny defense'.. In typical Trump fashion, their defense is to attack the whistle-blower rather than the content of the material, which they seem to be ignoring. :facepalm

Why are Republicans in Congress also silent as a ghost? Not a sound. :confusedshrug:

SomeBlackDude

09-21-2019, 11:18 AM

Why are Republicans in Congress also silent as a ghost? Not a sound. :confusedshrug:

battered woman and stockholm syndromes.

Battered Woman Syndrome

Symptoms

-love the person who is harming them and believe they will change
-deny that anything is wrong or excuse the person who is abusing them
-have moral or religious reasons for staying in the relationship (mikey pence and the evangelicals say hi)

Honeymoon phase: After carrying out the abuse, the individual may feel remorse. They may attempt to win back their partner's trust and affection. The person who experiences the abuse may idealize their partner during this period, seeing only their good side and making excuses for what happened.

Stockholm syndrome, psychological response wherein a captive begins to identify closely with his or her captors, as well as with their agenda and demands.

who does that remind you of?

:confusedshrug:

dude77

09-21-2019, 11:46 AM

https://i.ibb.co/ZLjFWk1/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

dude77

09-21-2019, 03:49 PM

First, he didn't take Obama's job waa waa waa

that coping lol .. now his daughter is getting turned out by maga .. ol barry taking big L's since '16

https://i.ibb.co/tHRcqnQ/mhzlst8s6sn31.jpg (https://ibb.co/Zf9KBvG)

RRR3

09-21-2019, 03:56 PM

Yo Pelosi still REFUSES to impeach the mango. This bitch is complicit. Vote her ass out in 2020.

God I hate her.

SomeBlackDude

09-21-2019, 04:21 PM

Yo Pelosi still REFUSES to impeach the mango. This bitch is complicit.

nah, she just knows it's pointless since moscow mitch will kill it the second it reaches the senate. of course maga will spin it as a victory during campaign season.

at this point it's like, the difference between an impeachment process final date and election day is a few months.

not the worst strategy to continue the impeachment hearings, gather the evidence, vote, then let the prosecutors/attorneys general/etc feast.

Vote her ass out in 2020.

pretty sure she agreed to make this her last term in exchange for the squad standing down on their mutiny attempt. so, she's done either way.

sounds like sleepy joe wants to give the emperor the corn pop (https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-joe-biden-tells-story-of-facing-down-razor-wielding-gang-leader-named-corn-pop/) treatment

Biden goes on the attack over Ukraine controversy, pledges to beat Trump ‘like a drum’ (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-ukraine-controversy-beat-trump)

:lol :eek:

RRR3

09-21-2019, 04:38 PM

Pelosi literally isn’t doing her job.

People get fired for that.

BarberSchool

09-21-2019, 05:30 PM

presidential/pm immunity is a helluva drug.

these dudes think they can just commit crimes forever and never have to face the music.

https://media.tenor.com/images/b7331e231120c221bfcb893ed1adf5b2/tenor.gif

at least bibi won't be snitching/taking a plea (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/.premium-netanyahu-says-no-intention-of-seeking-plea-bargain-in-corruption-cases-1.7865855).

dude is a real gangsta.

the anti tekashi.

i wish him good fortune in the trials to come.

:cheers:Are you actually a black man ?

If so, your admiration of "bibi's gangsta" is suicidally insane.

His Likud party openly advocates for sterilizing all black ethiopian jewish women in Israel, to kill off the black jews. Likud also has numerous members who have publicly said "africans have no culture and contribute nothing of value to the earth."

Check yourself brother.

Hawker

09-21-2019, 06:12 PM

Yo Pelosi still REFUSES to impeach the mango. This bitch is complicit. Vote her ass out in 2020.

God I hate her.

:oldlol:

bladefd

09-21-2019, 06:14 PM

RRR3

09-21-2019, 06:23 PM

SomeBlackDude

09-21-2019, 07:14 PM

Are you actually a black man ?

If so, your admiration of "bibi's gangsta" is suicidally insane.

His Likud party openly advocates for sterilizing all black ethiopian jewish women in Israel, to kill off the black jews. Likud also has numerous members who have publicly said "africans have no culture and contribute nothing of value to the earth."

Check yourself brother.

if what you're saying is true, then maybe it's a good thing that bibi's election day loss opens him up to potential prosecution and prison time. :applause:

Biden will use this to victimize himself and his family. His poll numbers will skyrocket in the primary race just because of this situation..

there's a reason why maga is scared shitless of sleepy joe. the man is a god to the working class whites of the rust belt, aka the spot where the gawd emperor eeked out his electoral college win and the spot he needs to win in 2020.

much in the same way that there is no crime that maga could commit that would make their minions turn on them, there isn't a gaffe on earth that sleepy could make that would cause the rust belt to turn on him.

maga's own internal polls, not the manufactured fake news ones, show joe blowing the emperor's brains out in those key states.

https://i.postimg.cc/gksQXpWv/n-hardball-mcfaul-190614-1920x1080.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/8cDXcKXK/mtp-clip-pollingpanel-190616-1920x1080-760-428-7-70-5.jpg

hence the new collusion scheme.

#nocollusion

dude77

09-21-2019, 07:18 PM

^ if dondadda's posting it, you know it's the opposite :applause:

MaxFly

09-21-2019, 07:48 PM

No way to sugar coat this. This is bad. It's almost as bad as a sitting president using US spy agencies to spy on a presidential candidate.

You went with "3." I expected some combination of "3" and "2." Props on showing some restraint.

Incidentally, which sitting president are you referring to in your post?

MaxFly

09-21-2019, 07:57 PM

Why are Republicans in Congress also silent as a ghost? Not a sound. :confusedshrug:

It has been several days and they've yet to settle on talking points or mount a defense; that's how you know it's pretty bad. They've avoided all of their favorite political shows. We'll see how they do tomorrow on Face the Nation, Meet the Press, State of the Union and This Week.

Also looking forward to how Chris Wallace treats the issue.

MaxFly

09-21-2019, 08:00 PM

Yo Pelosi still REFUSES to impeach the mango. This bitch is complicit. Vote her ass out in 2020.

God I hate her.

Impeachment isn't the goal... the inquiry and investigation is. You want to get all the facts out in the open before broaching impeachment.

MaxFly

09-21-2019, 08:09 PM

Biden will use this to victimize himself and his family. His poll numbers will skyrocket in the primary race just because of this situation.. :facepalm

It will blow-back in Trump's face, but it will also damage all of the Democrat runner-ups. Just watch next week when latest polls release.

This is exactly what will happen.

It should be noted... Trump is deathly afraid of Joe Biden. He will take his chances with Warren, Sanders, Harris and the others, but he, and his team, are terrified of Biden. But it's no surprise... Biden is absolutely murdering him in the national polls and in the state polls. Trump is certain to become increasingly desperate in the coming months.

Long Duck Dong

09-21-2019, 08:27 PM

MaxFly

09-21-2019, 08:49 PM

It's unfortunate this came up now. It would have been much better after Biden became the nominee because eventually this is going to come back and bite Biden right in the ass. What is an undeniable fact is that Biden personally threatened to withhold a billion dollars to the Ukraine if they didn't fire the prosecutor that was investigating the company his son was working with. This won't bring down Trump but has the ability to blow up in spectacular fashion in the face of Biden.

What is interesting is that the Obama administration advocated that the prosecutor in question be fired because he actually wasn't investigating anyone or anything, in spite of significant corruption... not even Hunter Biden. He wasn't fired because he was investigating anyone. The prosecutor who replaced him immediately began opening investigations into corruption.

As for Trump asking Ukraine to open up an investigation into a political opponent's son in order to hurt his political opponent... let's see if the stories of withholding financial aid are true. I imagine you'd agree that is indeed unfortunate.

TheMan

09-21-2019, 10:14 PM

that coping lol .. now his daughter is getting turned out by maga .. ol barry taking big L's since '16

https://i.ibb.co/tHRcqnQ/mhzlst8s6sn31.jpg (https://ibb.co/Zf9KBvG)
Again, just telling it like it is, Barry didn't run you nerd. Had it been Obama vs Trump, he'd wipe the floor with the fat orange douche. Second, don't care to defend Obama since he was a corporate Dem, I'm just poking holes in your Trump *********ion fantasy. He beat HC, Obama couldn't run again.

Don't worry though, next Dem POTUS will dismantle everything Trump did :cheers:

SomeBlackDude

09-21-2019, 11:20 PM

the ukrainian journalist/politician who first exposed convicted maga felon big paulie manafort's crimes (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html) just wrote an op-ed saying he's willing to testify to the 'murrican congress against rudy g and expose his ukrainian collusion scheme.

Giuliani attempted to visit Ukraine in May 2019 with the express purpose of involving Zelensky in this process. His aim was quite clear: He was planning to ask Zelensky to intervene in an American election on the side of Trump.

...

By repeating this lie, Giuliani is not only deceiving American citizens. He is not only intervening in Ukrainian politics, smearing parliamentarians and officials of the presidential administration. He is also trying to drag the new president of Ukraine into an American election, which is absolutely unacceptable.

I know that leaders of the three U.S. congressional committees that are now investigating the whistleblower case have asked the White House and the State Department to share all correspondence regarding the people involved in this story, including me. As a person who has had direct experience of many of these events, I express my readiness to testify to the U.S. Congress about what has been happening for the past six months in the gray zone of Ukrainian-American relations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/21/why-is-rudy-giuliani-trying-drag-my-countrys-president-into-trumps-reelection-campaign/

another one.

https://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Paul-Manafort-670x374.jpg

they never learn.

wouldn't it just be easier to not commit crimes/treason, maga? :confusedshrug:

bladefd

09-22-2019, 04:22 AM

MaxFly

09-22-2019, 07:35 AM

Still waiting on Republican senators/congressman. Has anyone said a word yet? Anything???

:biggums:

Kevin (Benghazi helped us bring Hillary Clinton's poll numbers down) McCarthy made a statement urging everyone to wait for the facts. When asked whether it would be necessary to have an examination of the whistleblower complaint in order to gather all the facts, Kevin (video games lead to mass shootings) McCarthy didn't have much of a response other than, again, we should wait.

andgar923

09-22-2019, 11:18 AM

SomeBlackDude

09-22-2019, 12:19 PM

Just like clockwork...

News breaks and Trump denies, fake news.
Moments later, news was misreported
later.. Well it may have been but who cares

And today...

Trump basically admits to the report.

someone prob informed him that recordings/transcripts of the call(s) exist so he had to switch up from 'fake news. i wouldn't be stupid enough to do that' to 'i was spied on' and 'so what if i did it?'

[QUOTE]Rebecca Ballhaus
@rebeccaballhaus

Trump CONFIRMS @wsj report that he discussed Biden w/the Ukrainian president in their July call. Says their conversation was largely congratulatory

MaxFly

09-22-2019, 12:51 PM

[QUOTE]Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Long Duck Dong

09-22-2019, 12:52 PM

And you're done....

Washington*(CNN)*—*
One source said that Inspector General Michael Atkinson referenced "a sequence of events" and "alleged actions" that took place. However, another source disputed that the IG provided substantive details regarding the whistleblower claim. The whistleblower's complaint deals at least in part with Ukraine,*The New York Times*and*Washington Post*reported Thursday night.

CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar with the case, that the complaint was prompted by concerns over communications between the President and a foreign leader. The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.

The whistleblower's attorney, Andrew Bakaj, had no comment when asked about the claim that the individual did not have direct knowledge of the communication in question. When asked if the complaint deals with Ukraine, Bakaj again had no comment.

If the "whistleblower" is in the right here his lawyer is going to be singing, not repeatedly refusing to comment.

I don't think Andgar's little heart can take this anymore. He gets his hopes up only to be crushed time and again. :oldlol:

Now, if the Republicans are smart, stay silent on this until Biden becomes the nominee then bring it up again and expose his senile, corrupt ass for using taxpayer dollars to help his son line his greedy pockets. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden was getting a kickback from his son for helping him.

SomeBlackDude

09-22-2019, 01:05 PM

Ah... the old "I was being spied on by the deep state" angle. It's smart, and sure to work with about 95% of his supporters. Lol, just last week he said that he knew people listen in on those calls and that he would never say anything inappropriate. Now he's surprised to hear that people may have listened in on the call.

step 1: "come on now, you think i would say some stupid shit like that when i know tons of people are listening?"

[QUOTE]Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Sep 19

Another Fake News story out there - It never ends! Virtually anytime I speak on the phone to a foreign leader, I understand that there may be many people listening from various U.S. agencies, not to mention those from the other country itself. No problem!

....Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially

SomeBlackDude

09-22-2019, 01:51 PM

someone prob informed him that recordings/transcripts of the call(s) exist

and there it is, folks.

[URL="https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/mnuchin-admits-white-house-has-transcript-of-ukraine-call-and-theyre-going-to-be-kept-confidential/"][B][U]Mnuchin admits White House has transcript of Ukraine call and

Long Duck Dong

09-22-2019, 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=SomeBlackDude]and there it is, folks.

[URL="https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/mnuchin-admits-white-house-has-transcript-of-ukraine-call-and-theyre-going-to-be-kept-confidential/"][B][U]Mnuchin admits White House has transcript of Ukraine call and

SomeBlackDude

09-22-2019, 02:29 PM

Don't worry. They'll get to the bottom of this Biden corruption scandal as soon as he's the nominee. The fortunate thing is he probably doesn't remember what happened back then any more than he remembers what he had for breakfast this morning so he should be able to lie convincingly.

damn sleepy joe has maga so shook they have to collude with the ukraine for help?

didn't know those internal polls were keeping you up at night like that.

joe hasn't had a coherent thought/sentence in like 2 years but still puts the fear of gawd into the emperor?

what a time.

bladefd

09-22-2019, 09:36 PM

Kevin (Benghazi helped us bring Hillary Clinton's poll numbers down) McCarthy made a statement urging everyone to wait for the facts. When asked whether it would be necessary to have an examination of the whistleblower complaint in order to gather all the facts, Kevin (video games lead to mass shootings) McCarthy didn't have much of a response other than, again, we should wait.

Some more Republicans came out with statements today.

Sen. Lindsey Graham told Fox News on Sunday he believes there should be an investigation into Biden — a domestic one.

“I’m calling for somebody in the Justice Department to look at all things Ukraine,” Graham said. “I’m hoping the Department of Justice will look at the Biden-Ukraine connection, like we looked at the Trump-Russia connection.”

While many Republicans circled the wagons, at least one — Sen. Mitt Romney — called the affair “troubling in the extreme” on Twitter, and wrote, “Critical for the facts to come out:”

So yea, they won't release transcripts. We won't find out anything else on this situation unless if someone leaks the transcript or the intelligence complaint. Another possibility is impeachment, but I don't see that happening.

TheMan

09-22-2019, 09:57 PM

The current administration is so corrupt, they make the Nixon White House look like amateur hour by comparison :lol And their supporters have the nerve to call other politicians "corrupt" :oldlol:

Long Duck Dong

09-23-2019, 12:16 AM

The current administration is so corrupt, they make the Nixon White House look like amateur hour by comparison :lol And their supporters have the nerve to call other politicians "corrupt" :oldlol:

Trump was literally complaining about Biden and his son's corruption to the Ukraine PM but you guys make it seem like his complaint is the corruption part. :oldlol:

Just wait. All this shit is going to be turned around on Biden's dome. The old man is shaking in his diaper right about now.

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 01:24 AM

It seems that individuals in the Ukraine are happy to confirm the story. (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/how-trump-and-giuliani-pressured-ukraine-to-investigate-the-presidents-rivals/ar-AAHDaoQ)

U.S. Embassy officials in Kiev repeatedly expressed concerns about the contacts between Giuliani and Ukrainian officials. They have not been privy to most of the discussions, and at times, have only learned later from the Ukrainians, who said they were unsure if Giuliani was officially speaking for the U.S. government, according to two officials with knowledge of the matter.

[QUOTE]Giuliani has alleged Biden advocated for the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor who at one point had overseen an anti-corruption probe of the gas producer

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 01:54 AM

Trump was literally complaining about Biden and his son's corruption to the Ukraine PM but you guys make it seem like his complaint is the corruption part. :oldlol:

Just wait. All this shit is going to be turned around on Biden's dome. The old man is shaking in his diaper right about now.

Trump and Giuliani repeatedly attempted to try to get the Ukrainians to launch an investigation into Hunter Biden this year in order to hurt Joe Biden politically. Giuliani admitted as much, saying that before Biden takes the White House, he wants him to have to deal with the Ukraine controversy. The Trump administration only started advocating for the investigation once it became clear that Biden would run for President. They did not make any of these requests prior to the spring of this year... coincidentally when Biden announced his campaign.

What's more:

[QUOTE]the case had been dormant before the prosecutor

rufuspaul

09-23-2019, 09:00 AM

Is it Mueller time yet?

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 09:56 AM

Is it Mueller time yet?

Hey, quick question. Do you think Trump putting pressure on a foreign leader (as well as using his personal lawyer to do the same) to investigate a political rival and his family member is appropriate? Seems strange that if he were truly concerned about that corrupt, rotten, slimy trickster, Joe Biden, he wouldn't have asked the DOJ to look into his actions and go through official channels to conduct an investigation in concert with Ukraine. Even stranger that he waited until Joe Biden announced his run for President to contact Ukraine about opening an investigation. Let's see if you can answer without a deflection or whataboutism.

Nanners

09-23-2019, 10:14 AM

rufuspaul

09-23-2019, 10:30 AM

Hey, quick question. Do you think Trump putting pressure on a foreign leader (as well as using his personal lawyer to do the same) to investigate a political rival and his family member is appropriate? Seems strange that if he were truly concerned about that corrupt, rotten, slimy trickster, Joe Biden, he wouldn't have asked the DOJ to look into his actions and go through official channels to conduct an investigation in concert with Ukraine. Even stranger that he waited until Joe Biden announced his run for President to contact Ukraine about opening an investigation. Let's see if you can answer without a deflection or whataboutism.

Let's see if you can read. It's all conjecture at this point. It may or may not add up to something but I wouldn't bet on it since everything the Dems in the House have tried have backfired on them.

SomeBlackDude

09-23-2019, 11:17 AM

Hey, quick question. Do you think Trump putting pressure on a foreign leader (as well as using his personal lawyer to do the same) to investigate a political rival and his family member is appropriate?

maga is a strictly cash transaction for rufus, he doesn't actually believe any of that shit. the minute the markets tank again, he'll be calling for the 25th amendment again (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471628). :lol

Even stranger that he waited until Joe Biden announced his run for President to contact Ukraine about opening an investigation.

stranger still, maga's internal polling showing sleepy joe taking the emperor's lunch money in battleground states 'leaked' (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trumps-internal-polling-data-march-showed-joe/story?id=63718268) over the summer.

recall that manafort was personally giving internal polling to russian intelligence agent kilimnik during the last campaign. presumably, the russians used that info to micro target key areas/demographics with the seth rich, pizzagate gaslighting.

only a handful of people would have the ability to 'leak' that info.

how long before the bots start telling michigan and wisconsin that sleepy joe is keeping child sex slaves in the basement of a long john silver's or that he had nipsey hussle assassinated?

rufuspaul

09-23-2019, 12:25 PM

maga is a strictly cash transaction for rufus, he doesn't actually believe any of that shit. the minute the markets tank again, he'll be calling for the 25th amendment again (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471628). :lol

:oldlol:

It's all about me, this politics thing

SomeBlackDude

09-23-2019, 02:17 PM

:oldlol:

It's all about me, this politics thing

you when the markets are up:

https://i.postimg.cc/kGQPP89R/C1069-RUDY-GIULIANI-TRUTH-ISNT-THE-TRUTH-330-AM-OPEN-SOTVOVideo.jpg

you when the markets slide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLbRD9FpqYI)

speaking of former prosecutor turned criminal rudy 'two-face' giuliani...

[QUOTE]Giuliani can't say 100 percent Trump didn't threaten Ukraine aid

Rudy Giuliani on Monday said that he can

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 03:14 PM

A couple years ago, Creepy Joe was bragging in public about how he used financial threats to get this Ukrainian prosecutor fired. Heres video proof - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

Anyway, it blows my mind that democrats are basically arguing that using your political influence to expose the corrupt acts of another politician is somehow worse than using your political influence to blackmail a foreign country into ignoring any crimes that may have committed by your corrupt family members.

What you opted to not include (mistakenly I'm assuming) was the fact that the whole Obama administration, not just Joe Biden who was acting as a liaison to Eastern European governments in contention was Russia, was in agreement that the Ukrainian prosecutor in question needed to be fired because he had been sitting on and opted not to investigate and prosecute a host of corruption cases, just as Ukrainian prosecutors before him had done. In fact, Ukrainians and international organizations were also calling for Viktor Shokin's ouster and saw him as an obstacle to reform.

[QUOTE]His appointment under President Petro Poroshenko disappointed reformers hopeful that the country would abandon a corrupt past in which prosecutors didn

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 03:19 PM

Let's see if you can read. It's all conjecture at this point. It may or may not add up to something but I wouldn't bet on it since everything the Dems in the House have tried have backfired on them.

Trump has pretty much acknowledged all of it over the last two days after initially denying all of it. I know, right. What's new.

In fact, he just acknowledged that he did indeed threaten to withhold aid from Ukraine because he wanted them to take corruption more seriously... all while pushing them, and sending his personal lawyers to push them to investigate Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. Here's the funny part... they waited until after Joe Biden announced his Presidential run to make those threats and push for that investigation.

rufuspaul

09-23-2019, 03:21 PM

Trump has pretty much acknowledged all of it over the last two days after initially denying all of it. I know, right. What's new.

In fact, he just acknowledged that he did indeed threaten to withhold aid from Ukraine because he wanted them to take corruption more seriously... all while pushing them, and sending his personal lawyers to push them to investigate Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. Here's the funny part... they waited until after Joe Biden announced his Presidential run to make those threats and push for that investigation.

:sleeping

So?

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 03:23 PM

how long before the bots start telling michigan and wisconsin that sleepy joe is keeping child sex slaves in the basement of a long john silver's or that he had nipsey hussle assassinated?

Wait, it's not a verified fact that Sleepy Joe was involved in Nipsey Hussle's untimely demise?

rufuspaul

09-23-2019, 03:27 PM

Wait, it's not a verified fact that Sleepy Joe was involved in Nipsey Hussle's untimely demise?

Of course not. Everything's Trump's fault. He's the only corrupt person in Washington. Keep up with the narrative.

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 05:34 PM

:sleeping

So?

Good... you have no issue with any of this. Remember this post, ok.

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 05:37 PM

Of course not. Everything's Trump's fault. He's the only corrupt person in Washington. Keep up with the narrative.

Yeah... let's not talk about possible corrupt acts taken by the President of the United States and his people under his direction because there are other corrupt people in Washington and across the country. :rolleyes:

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 06:26 PM

Here is Trump today at the UN, during media availability with the Polish president:

Joe Biden and his son are corrupt... If a Republican ever did what Joe Biden did, if a Republican ever said what Joe Biden said, they’d be getting the electric chair by right now.

This dude is terrified of Joe Biden.

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 06:53 PM

Fox's Napolitano on Joe Biden:

[QUOTE]Napolitano agreed that while [B]

SomeBlackDude

09-23-2019, 07:29 PM

Wait, it's not a verified fact that Sleepy Joe was involved in Nipsey Hussle's untimely demise?

the normal real news dissemination process ran into a... problem recently.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B4wEa2f4EDw/XK8TqXncKhI/AAAAAAAAzvI/k6tLDrmVlaAgGz3A7_lpbmgQy-HlqLODACLcBGAs/s728-e100/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assange-Arrested.png

how will fancy bear get the truth about nipseygate out to the public now?

:(

Long Duck Dong

09-23-2019, 08:52 PM

SomeBlackDude

09-23-2019, 09:35 PM

maga lawyers are now repping a ukrainian business partner of big paulie who just happens to be a russian mobster fighting extradition to face justice in 'murrica.

[QUOTE][B][U]Trump-Friendly Lawyers Join Legal Team of Ukraine

MaxFly

09-23-2019, 10:30 PM

Both Andgar and Maxfly have become completely unhinged. :oldlol:

Trump isn't going down and when he sidesteps another witch hunt, they are going to dive deeper down the rabbit hole of insanity :oldlol:

I love the deflection. Can't adequately defend Trump's actions, attack other posters.

It's ok... I'll stick to the subject matter.

[QUOTE]President Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the son of former vice president Joe Biden, according to three senior administration officials.

Officials at the Office of Management and Budget relayed Trump

SomeBlackDude

09-23-2019, 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=MaxFly][QUOTE]resident Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the son of former vice president Joe Biden, according to three senior administration officials.

Officials at the Office of Management and Budget relayed Trump

bladefd

09-24-2019, 02:14 AM

basic common sense dictated that was the case from the jump.

quid pro maga.

looks like the crooked dems are moving towards impeachment and a possible select committee to handle proceedings.

i think rrr might hate nancy just a little less by this time tomorrow.

They can get Trump taxes and other documents by simply opening impeachment proceedings without taking up impeachment vote in the House. That would put a lid on Trump trying to hide his tax returns because he would be required to do so under impeachment laws.

bladefd

09-24-2019, 02:16 AM

bladefd

09-24-2019, 02:44 AM

Pelosi has been talking with her colleagues throughout today and it could get interesting.

The drama is all building toward Thursday, a make-or-break moment in the eyes of House Democratic leaders. Pelosi gave the acting director of national intelligence, Joseph Maguire, until then to turn over the whistleblower complaint. Under the law, any matter deemed of “urgent concern” is supposed to be shared with Congress. But the Trump administration has refused to hand over the material — despite an inspector general’s determination that it has met that threshold.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pelosi-quietly-sounding-out-house-democrats-about-whether-to-impeach-trump-officials-say/2019/09/23/98a33fd8-de5f-11e9-8fd3-d943b4ed57e0_story.html

I don't see anything happening today (Tuesday), but Wednesday should heat up. Pelosi is trying to gauge where the party members stand and to see if she can get any Republican support. Republicans have been pretty quiet last few days except for a couple of them. I also think they are waiting for latest polls to come in to see where the public stands since the whistle-blower news came out.

People don't seem to realize that once the House impeaches, everything comes out. Trump can't countersue or have the federal court freeze something or delay. Everything, including his tax returns, have to reach the hands of Congress. If it's danning in any way, Republicans will begin to flip to protect their own skin. They won't go down with the ship, I promise you that. Politicians don't go down with the ship, typically anyways..

ILLsmak

09-24-2019, 05:05 AM

A couple years ago, Creepy Joe was bragging in public about how he used financial threats to get this Ukrainian prosecutor fired. Heres video proof - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

Yea to me it basically hinges on whether it's true or not. If it's true or they have 'high confidence' to believe it was true, his (Trump's) actions are just, imo.

People say it like Trump is saying 'make up some shit about Biden and I'll pay you', but he could be saying, release what you already know. If it's really corrupt shit, I dunno why people are so upset. I guess cuz they are all corrupt clowns.

At first I was gonna say Trump should want to face a clown like Biden in the general (because he would destroy himself once the scrutiny was all on him, even Obama knows), but I guess the best-best outcome (for Trump) is Biden continuing to damage progressives with credibility then narrowly losing the nomination so that Trump can point back to stuff Biden said about universal healthcare and such.

I'm sure we'll get to view the transcript, and maybe even get some more info about what was actually going on with Yung Biden.

-Smak

Rocket

09-24-2019, 06:47 AM

https://i.ibb.co/ZLjFWk1/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Bingo!!!!:applause:
They have been wrong on every single thing about Trump since before he was elected. Each one of them is the one that will bring him down. As soon as they are debunked they move on to the next big thing. The sheep eagerly follow along with the propaganda being spewed by the talking heads and believe every single bit of it with while stuck in their leftist echo chambers. This would be comical if it was not so pathetic. :roll:

nathanjizzle

09-24-2019, 07:59 AM

Excited to see how things unfold.

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 08:03 AM

They can get Trump taxes and other documents by simply opening impeachment proceedings without taking up impeachment vote in the House. That would put a lid on Trump trying to hide his tax returns because he would be required to do so under impeachment laws.

I've been saying this for quite some time. It's a risky gambit if they ultimately don't take a vote, but they really need to break the back of all this obstruction.

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 08:08 AM

i think rrr might hate nancy just a little less by this time tomorrow.

People can say what they want about Pelosi, but given her cautious approach to impeachment and her obvious aversion to going down that road, she can't be painted as an overzealous Speaker intent on playing political games. She has been a moderating voice through much of this, so the fact that she is seriously considering unleashing the hounds is indicative of a shift in perspective due to this most recent revelation and the increased pressure she has been receiving from her caucus. She actually positioned herself quite well for this next stage.

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 08:30 AM

Yea to me it basically hinges on whether it's true or not. If it's true or they have 'high confidence' to believe it was true, his (Trump's) actions are just, imo.

People say it like Trump is saying 'make up some shit about Biden and I'll pay you', but he could be saying, release what you already know. If it's really corrupt shit, I dunno why people are so upset. I guess cuz they are all corrupt clowns.

The full context on Biden and what he did has already come out. I responded to Nanners' post. Here is what was in my response.

[QUOTE]...the whole Obama administration, not just Joe Biden who was acting as a liaison to Eastern European governments in contention was Russia, was in agreement that the Ukrainian prosecutor in question needed to be fired because he had been sitting on and opted not to investigate and prosecute a host of corruption cases, just as Ukrainian prosecutors before him had done. In fact, Ukrainians and international organizations were also calling for Viktor Shokin's ouster and saw him as an obstacle to reform.

[QUOTE]His appointment under President Petro Poroshenko disappointed reformers hopeful that the country would abandon a corrupt past in which prosecutors didn

rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 08:41 AM

Multiple administration sources confirmed to Fox News on Tuesday that the Office of Management and Budget indeed told the State Department and Department of Defense in July that it was putting a hold on nearly $400 million in aid to Ukraine.

But administration sources told Fox News that the reason for the freeze on Ukrainian aid was tied to concerns about corruption. Sources said that Trump wanted to be confident that the incoming administration of Volodymyr Zelensky was going to take steps to end corruption before releasing the funding.

The aid to Ukraine also, according to sources, came up in the context of other countries and questions about whether they were paying their share.

The White House’s decision to release the funding ultimately was made in mid-August, after Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, called the president and said that Ukraine desperately needed the aid, according to administration sources.

The White House, at the time, was also up against an appropriation “impoundment” deadline, which meant the money would either have to be spent, or impounded. The White House would have been forced to go to court to justify the impoundment, which sources said it did not want to do.

This may or may not be true but it's a reasonable enough explanation that unless Trump is on record saying he's gonna withhold aid unless Biden is investigated the House is gonna have a hard time convicting him.

nathanjizzle

09-24-2019, 09:04 AM

trump is good at saying things without actually saying it. He knows the phone call was being transcribed. Based on the complaint, he was more or less open in the conversation with ukraine president about committing acts of collusion in our political system. Why would he be openly doing this? is it because he feels bold after the "exonerated" Mueller report? or is this actually a setup up from trump to make democrats look stupid right before the 2020 elections? He does seem genuinely frustrated these past few days so the later may not be realistic.

In the case of this not being a setup, we can be sure their wont be clear and literal collusion in the transcript, but "word arounds" that convey what he wants done, which is collusion.

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 09:11 AM

This may or may not be true but it's a reasonable enough explanation that unless Trump is on record saying he's gonna withhold aid unless Biden is investigated the House is gonna have a hard time convicting him.

Well the abuse of power can be first found in pressuring a foreign state to start an investigation on a political rival for political gain. Even absent the quid pro quo, that's impeachable. Giuliani, in an unofficial role, held meetings with Ukrainian officials to pressure them to investigate the Bidens and did not go though proper state department channels. He was bold enough to say that he held those meetings to help his client.

The withholding of funds might be very problematic as well because the pressure from Trump and Giuliani was so intense that the Ukrainians have gone on record as saying that they were concerned that the money would be and was being withheld because their President demurred in seeking an investigation into the Bidens. There's also the fact that the money was held up all summer and released only two weeks ago... when this whistleblower complaint really started heating up. What a coincidence... because Ukraine didn't change anything in how they were conducting business to free up the money and there is no indication as to how the administration came to the conclusion that they were corruption free enough to get the funds.

Let's see how this goes.

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 09:53 AM

rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 10:01 AM

Giuliani, in an unofficial role, held meetings with Ukrainian officials to pressure them to investigate the Bidens and did not go though proper state department channels. He was bold enough to say that he held those meetings to help his client.

There would have to be indisputable evidence that Trump ordered Giuliani to do this.

This is gonna be tricky for the Democrats. If they open impeachment proceedings and the evidence isn't concrete it will blow up in their face just like the Mueller report. On the other hand if they are able to impeach and it dies in the Senate it will be fodder for Trump to energize his base in the swing states.

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 10:06 AM

Just catching up to this story.

Are the Dems playing the collusion angle again??

https://media2.giphy.com/media/fDzM81OYrNjJC/source.gif

:lol :lol :lol

rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 10:46 AM

https://entertainment.theonion.com/viewers-disappointed-new-frozen-2-trailer-provides-al-1838366709

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 11:13 AM

There would have to be indisputable evidence that Trump ordered Giuliani to do this.

Giuliani said that he kept Trump informed of his progress. Trump then put the same pressure on the Ukrainian President that Giuliani was putting on his officials. It will be hard to convince people that the two did not decide to put pressure on the Ukrainians in concert... that it was just a coincidence that they both had the same idea, at the same time, around the same thing, with the same ask.

This is gonna be tricky for the Democrats. If they open impeachment proceedings and the evidence isn't concrete it will blow up in their face just like the Mueller report. On the other hand if they are able to impeach and it dies in the Senate it will be fodder for Trump to energize his base in the swing states.

So either way, the Republicans should be overjoyed that this is going on. I can see why they're hoping to look past these new revelations. The great thing about impeachment proceedings is that it opens up access to all kinds of things, including his taxes.

rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 11:29 AM

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 11:45 AM

i've said it before, i'll say it again- rudy is a sdny plant sent to destroy maga from within.

HANNITY: You didn’t get involved in this on your own. Did our State Department ask you to go on a mission for them?

GIULIANI: They did. I was called by the State –

HANNITY: And you’re a good citizen and you went?

GIULIANI: The State Department called me and said, would I take a call from Mr. Yermak, who’s number two or three to the president-elect, now the president. I was put together with Mr. Earmach. I talked to him he gave me enormously important facts. I conveyed them all to the State Department – unlike the media lies, fake news, I wasn’t operating on my own. I was operating at the request of the State Department.

dude just implicated the state dept. in maga's foreign bribery and corruption scheme.

every time he goes on tv, he reveals new crimes no one was even looking into.

like clockwork.

:applause:

Charlie Sheen

09-24-2019, 12:12 PM

Pocahontas got the ball rolling, put the pressure on Pelosi. Creepy and MAGA might just end up taking each other out. What is comrade freeshit doing?

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 12:12 PM

[QUOTE]HANNITY: You didn

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 12:14 PM

Pocahontas got the ball rolling, put the pressure on Pelosi. Creepy and MAGA might just end up taking each other out. What is comrade freeshit doing?

Native Americans pitting the white man against each other since 1620.

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 12:21 PM

So the State Department asked Rudy Giuliani to pressure the Ukrainians to investigate the Bidens, and Trump was not informed about this. The State Department went behind the back of a sitting President to use his personal lawyer to pressure the officials in a foreign country to investigate a former US Vice President and his son. :oldlol: ok...

yup. and the emperor just happened to freeze the congress approved aid to ukraine that same week on a whim.

a plan so outlandish and nonsensical... it just might work.

pompeo explaining it to anybody:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InfamousDirtyAngwantibo-size_restricted.gif

:applause:

Charlie Sheen

09-24-2019, 12:21 PM

Native Americans pitting the white man against each other since 1620.
This is good. I'm going to steal this and pretend it was something I thought of when I repeat it to my friends. :cheers:

dude77

09-24-2019, 01:24 PM

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 01:33 PM

at this point I'm fkn sick of these homos on the left .. russian collusion didn't work .. so let's keep going and dig for other shit .. dems have been trying to undermine and destroy trump's presidency since before his inauguration .. I've never seen this type of derangement .. I hope they get destroyed in 2020

And in the meantime, Trump and Co. went to California and addressed the homeless crisis first hand. Trump trying to turn California Red again. God that would be amazing. :oldlol:

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 01:59 PM

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FirsthandWiltedJuliabutterfly-size_restricted.gif

Howard Fineman
@howardfineman

Very solid #Dem House leadership source just confirmed to me that @SpeakerPelosi will announce a formal impeachment inquiry this afternoon and imply that she herself favors impeachment of @realDonaldTrump

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rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 02:29 PM

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FirsthandWiltedJuliabutterfly-size_restricted.gif

https://us.v-cdn.net/6025735/uploads/editor/jb/khtqkou07n1r.gif

I guess it's Mueller time.

RRR3

09-24-2019, 02:41 PM

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FirsthandWiltedJuliabutterfly-size_restricted.gif

https://us.v-cdn.net/6025735/uploads/editor/jb/khtqkou07n1r.gif
Rufus just soiled his trump brand diapers.

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 02:45 PM

I guess it's Mueller time.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/7bbeba46ab08ca468e76ca6062e2061b/tumblr_omvk0cAPDX1w6jsdfo2_540.gif

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine....

https://i.postimg.cc/MK20yHN7/Screen-Shot-2019-08-09-at-11-53-54-AM.png

[QUOTE]Adam Schiff
@RepAdamSchiff

We have been informed by the whistleblower

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 02:48 PM

The Dems just love gobbling up those L's. :oldlol:

What an embarrassing moment in our country's history.

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 02:48 PM

Rufus just soiled his trump brand diapers.

rufus looking at the stock market rn

https://i.postimg.cc/mrYWgtvm/kPqvjqP.png

"lock him up."

rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 02:50 PM

Rufus just soiled his trump brand diapers.

:rolleyes:

Did you just think that up ON THE SPOT?!? Amazing!!!

rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 02:51 PM

https://66.media.tumblr.com/7bbeba46ab08ca468e76ca6062e2061b/tumblr_omvk0cAPDX1w6jsdfo2_540.gif

Well well well. This is getting more and more interesting.

rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 02:53 PM

The Dems just love gobbling up those L's. :oldlol:

What an embarrassing moment in our country's history.

What do they say about people who do the same thing over and over and expect different results?

Who knows, this might amount to something but based on past efforts I wouldn't put money on it.

rufuspaul

09-24-2019, 03:17 PM

Adam Schiff
@RepAdamSchiff

We have been informed by the whistleblower’s counsel that their client would like to speak to our committee and has requested guidance from the Acting DNI as to how to do so.

We‘re in touch with counsel and look forward to the whistleblower’s testimony as soon as this week.

This would be a big cause of concern for Trump except:

CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar with the case, that the complaint was prompted by concerns over communications between the President and a foreign leader. The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 04:01 PM

What do they say about people who do the same thing over and over and expect different results?

Who knows, this might amount to something but based on past efforts I wouldn't put money on it.

These people are insane and they have no right being in power. We MUST destroy them. Or at least enjoy watching them as they destroy themselves. And they're doing a masterful job at that. :lol

ILLsmak

09-24-2019, 04:11 PM

TRANSCRIPT'S COMIN BOYS.

-Smak

bladefd

09-24-2019, 04:27 PM

So either way, the Republicans should be overjoyed that this is going on. I can see why they're hoping to look past these new revelations. The great thing about impeachment proceedings is that it opens up access to all kinds of things, including his taxes.

Yup, pretty much everything comes out. Taxes, financial dealings, the intelligence complaint, his conversation with Ukraine prime Minister, any interviews the House calls for. The Democrats have House majority so they will put everything up for vote and win every vote :pimp:

Then the Senate of course makes the conviction, but not until every document is released, reviewed and discussed. Tax returns will probably become public for the world to scrutinize, along with financial dealings

bladefd

09-24-2019, 04:33 PM

So the State Department asked Rudy Giuliani to pressure the Ukrainians to investigate the Bidens, and Trump was not informed about this. The State Department went behind the back of a sitting President to use his personal lawyer to pressure the officials in a foreign country to investigate a former US Vice President and his son. :oldlol: ok...

The rat Trump will attempt to turn on his own state department. Just watch. He will also turn on Rudy Giuliani, he will turn on everybody one by one. That's the sort of scumbag thing Trump does. And it will be public this time.

Eventually, Trump will realize there is nobody left to turn on so he will resign and Pence will pardon him. He will get away with it ultimately like he always does unfortunately :confusedshrug:

bladefd

09-24-2019, 04:40 PM

The Dems just love gobbling up those L's. :oldlol:

What an embarrassing moment in our country's history.

Embarrassing?? How so? Trump is completely innocent and you just said Democrats are gobbling up 'Ls'. Why are you embarrassed if this just guaranteed 4 more years of the amazing Trump??

bladefd

09-24-2019, 04:42 PM

Rufus just soiled his trump brand diapers.

Rufus does not wear those anymore. That brand just went bankrupt like all of Trump businesses, bro. Get up to date!

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 04:47 PM

This is good. I'm going to steal this and pretend it was something I thought of when I repeat it to my friends. :cheers:

Lol, have at it. :cheers:

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 04:54 PM

This would be a big cause of concern for Trump except:

I'd really like an accounting of how he acquired the information and what about the information and how it was related to him made him file a whistle blower complaint. I'd also be interested to see what other information is in the complaint.

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 04:56 PM

Embarrassing?? How so? Trump is completely innocent and you just said Democrats are gobbling up 'Ls'. Why are you embarrassed if this just guaranteed 4 more years of the amazing Trump??

Because Democrats represent our government too. This witch hunt is embarrassing.

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 04:56 PM

The rat Trump will attempt to turn on his own state department. Just watch. He will also turn on Rudy Giuliani, he will turn on everybody one by one. That's the sort of scumbag thing Trump does. And it will be public this time.

Eventually, Trump will realize there is nobody left to turn on so he will resign and Pence will pardon him. He will get away with it ultimately like he always does unfortunately :confusedshrug:

He may get away with some things if there is a pardon, but it is in his best interest to stay as long as he can in office. New York is hunting for him, and there's nothing Pence can do to stop it.

Also, a pardon would destroy his legacy. An acceptance of a pardon is an admission of guilt. He'd be hard pressed to run his business or engage in dealings ever again. No one would want to be associated with him... you think places are removing his name now... just wait.

Nash

09-24-2019, 05:11 PM

Facepalm

09-24-2019, 05:18 PM

The upcoming tweet storms should be entertaining

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 05:22 PM

How about Trump stops doing suspect shit instead?

Like what? What laws has he broken?

RRR3

09-24-2019, 05:24 PM

For Rufus, Patty, stalker, dude and the rest of the MAGA gang....

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/24/763700264/trumps-ukraine-call-may-be-game-changer-on-impeachment

UH. OH.

RRR3

09-24-2019, 05:24 PM

Rufus does not wear those anymore. That brand just went bankrupt like all of Trump businesses, bro. Get up to date!
:roll:

bladefd

09-24-2019, 05:28 PM

He may get away with some things if there is a pardon, but it is in his best interest to stay as long as he can in office. New York is hunting for him, and there's nothing Pence can do to stop it.

Also, a pardon would destroy his legacy. An acceptance of a pardon is an admission of guilt. He'd be hard pressed to run his business or engage in dealings ever again. No one would want to be associated with him... you think places are removing his name now... just wait.

Trump is obese unhealthy old man. He does not exercise because he is afraid of using up his life energy and he eats McDonald's greasy gross burgers regularly. I don't think he cares about running his business for long. He has maybe 10 more years remaining before he dies of old age. I don't think he cares about anything now except living out his life

You are right about Pence not being able to pardon the state charges potentially, but I feel like money will buy Trump time and probably ultimately buy his way out of prison. Rich people tend to get away with stuff behind expensive lawyers..

Facepalm

09-24-2019, 05:30 PM

Like what? What laws has he broken?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/23/judge_napolitano_on_ukraine_if_true_whistleblower_ complaint_against_trump_an_act_of_corruption.html? src=ilaw

From Fox News very own Judge Napolitano, who supports Trump BIGLY

FOX News' Andrew Napolitano called the whistleblower complaint made against President Trump for a conversation he had with Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Zelensky involving former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, an "act of corruption" if true.

"If you are the President of the United States and making a conversation that you know your intelligence community is listening to, of course you’re not going to articulate a quid pro quo," Napolitano said Monday on FOX Business Network. "You'll just make the quid pro quo happen."

"This is probably the end of Joe Biden's presidency and it ought to be the end of his dream for the presidency," Napolitano said," but doesn’t diminish one iota what the current president is doing which if true, we haven’t seen the whistleblower complaint, and, under the law it has to be revealed... if true, this is an act of corruption."

:cheers:

Oh here's another quote for you

“I think this is the most serious charge against the president, far more serious than what Bob Mueller dug or dragged up against him, if there was a quid pro quo,” Napolitano, a judge and the network’s senior judicial analyst, said Monday, referring to the former special counsel’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 campaign.

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 05:34 PM

Like what? What laws has he broken?

thus far- obstruction of justice, campaign finance violations.

once the crooked dems use their bigly impeachment powers- bribery, money laundering (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/business/deutsche-bank-trump-kushner.html), tax fraud (https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/02/trump-inflated-worth-by-4-billion-in-bid-for-buffalo-bills-cohen-says.html), and it goes on.

the real question will be- how many dead bodies riddled with bullets lying on 5th ave can maga nation tolerate?

when is enough, enough?

https://media.giphy.com/media/vkPlZ0mU5Fl4I/giphy.gif

let's find out together, chewy. :cheers:

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 05:36 PM

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/23/judge_napolitano_on_ukraine_if_true_whistleblower_ complaint_against_trump_an_act_of_corruption.html? src=ilaw

From Fox News very own Judge Napolitano, who supports Trump BIGLY

:cheers:

Oh here's another quote for you

That's an unfounded charge and is all speculative and wishful thinking by degenerates like you. Quit being stupid.

What has Trump been FOUND GUILTY of??

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 05:37 PM

thus far- obstruction of justice, campaign finance violations.

once the crooked dems use their bigly impeachment powers- bribery, money laundering (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/business/deutsche-bank-trump-kushner.html), tax fraud (https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/02/trump-inflated-worth-by-4-billion-in-bid-for-buffalo-bills-cohen-says.html), and it goes on.

the real question will be- how many dead bodies riddled with bullets lying on 5th ave can maga nation tolerate?

when is enough, enough?

https://media.giphy.com/media/vkPlZ0mU5Fl4I/giphy.gif

let's find out together, chewy. :cheers:

What Obstruction of Justice? Was there a trial? When was it? :oldlol:

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 05:39 PM

Because Democrats represent our government too. This witch hunt is embarrassing.

If a Democrat or Independent gets into office in the next several years, do they have free reign to do what Trump has done... like in this most recent controversy for instance? If that's what you're advocating, I'd be fully willing to let this go if only to see how Republicans react when a future President goes after Trump in similar fashion to how he's going after Biden.

I notice that you guys have been loath to actually address the specifics of the controversy. There's a lot of "Fake Newz!!!" and "Democrats are weenies!!!" But no, "this was well within the scope of his powers" or "all the evidence proves that this complaint and all of the accusations are false" or "the Ukrainians have already debunked this story with documents and first hand accounts." I wonder why.

Facepalm

09-24-2019, 05:42 PM

That's an unfounded charge and is all speculative and wishful thinking by degenerates like you. Quit being stupid.

What has Trump been FOUND GUILTY of??
Umm...you have to be indicted before you can be found guilty doofus. :hammerhead:

You sound very upset today. Everything OK Patty Chewtoy? Need a hug?

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 05:43 PM

What Obstruction of Justice? Was there a trial? When was it? :oldlol:

what part of you can't indict a sitting president do you not understand, chew? :confusedshrug:

if there's no crimes committed and this is a nothing burger, then let us make sure the lettuce is washed, the tomatoes thin sliced... the pickles brined to perfection.

don't stress over it, chew.

just sit back and enjoy the juicy, flame-broiled goodness.

:cheers:

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 05:43 PM

Umm...you have to be charged before you can be found guilty doofus. :hammerhead:

What's the charge? What did he do? NO ONE has read the transcripts yet or heard any audio. This is all speculative. That's not how the legal system works, Einstein.

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 05:45 PM

If a Democrat or Independent gets into office in the next several years, do they have free reign to do what Trump has done... like in this most recent controversy for instance? If that's what you're advocating, I'd be fully willing to let this go if only to see how Republicans react when a future President goes after Trump in similar fashion to how he's going after Biden.

I notice that you guys have been loath to actually address the specifics of the controversy. There's a lot of "Fake Newz!!!" and "Democrats are weenies!!!" But no, "this was well within the scope of his powers" or "all the evidence proves that this complaint and all of the accusations are false" or "the Ukrainians have already debunked this story with documents and first hand accounts." I wonder why.

:oldlol:

Free reign to do what, exactly?? Every accusation you guys have hurled at him have been unfounded and proven to be Fake News.

Every headline on the Fake News media outlets starts with "If"

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 05:48 PM

I don't think he cares about anything now except living out his life

He cares about his name and how he is regarded. He won't like being marginalized and dismissed. A pardon will send all of his faux sycophants in the Senate running right back to what they were saying in 2015 and early 2016 about him... and worse. Even his supporters don't particularly like him now. He's not going to like what will be done to his legacy if he accepts a pardon. And then there's the vindictive nature of NY state prosecutors and the Southern District of NY. He will be anathema to pretty much everyone of note... even his friends at Fox News.

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 05:49 PM

:oldlol:

Free reign to do what, exactly?? Every accusation you guys have hurled at him have been unfounded and proven to be Fake News.

Every headline on the Fake News media outlets starts with "If"

thaaaaaaaat's not exactly true is it, chewy?

https://i.postimg.cc/1XK9bhvt/Cohen-Prison.jpg

COHEN: "Last fall I pled guilty in federal court to felonies for the benefit of, at the direction of, and in coordination with Individual Number 1. And for the record, Individual Number 1 is President Donald J. Trump."

[URL="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-mueller-report-play-investigation-live-20190624-story.html"][B]Mueller report play spotlights Trump

Facepalm

09-24-2019, 05:50 PM

What's the charge? What did he do? NO ONE has read the transcripts yet or heard any audio. This is all speculative. That's not how the legal system works, Einstein.

Read Judge Napolitano's quote again. If you are too stupid to understand it then that's on you.

You are about to have an aneurysm, have a scooby snack.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6ea6b181500935b3c70baf1748d2ecd4/tenor.gif

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 05:50 PM

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=SomeBlackDude]thaaaaaaaat's not exactly true is it, chewy?

https://i.postimg.cc/1XK9bhvt/Cohen-Prison.jpg

[URL="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-mueller-report-play-investigation-live-20190624-story.html"][B]Mueller report play spotlights Trump

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 05:53 PM

Did Trump pay, while President, to cover up revelations about cheating on his wife with porn stars?

I don't know, did he?

:lol

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 05:54 PM

Where's the smoking gun??

https://i.postimg.cc/tg4xZr0X/1440x810-cmsv2-295949eb-b643-5a13-ade3-c49a452ab427-3692794.jpg

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2019/02/27/cohen-documents/ad7535146499737c9ed9b42c927d2549298993c1/page-10.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/YJ7ACYe0ZUlcQ/giphy.gif

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 05:58 PM

Read Judge Napolitano's quote again. If you are too stupid to understand it then that's on you.

You are about to have an aneurysm, have a scooby snack.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6ea6b181500935b3c70baf1748d2ecd4/tenor.gif

Yeahhhh I don't think you read Napolitano's quotes, much less understand them. Here are both of them that you posted in your original post.

whistleblower complaint made against President Trump for a conversation he had with Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Zelensky involving former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, an "act of corruption" if true.

[QUOTE][I]doesn

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 06:01 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/tg4xZr0X/1440x810-cmsv2-295949eb-b643-5a13-ade3-c49a452ab427-3692794.jpg

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2019/02/27/cohen-documents/ad7535146499737c9ed9b42c927d2549298993c1/page-10.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/YJ7ACYe0ZUlcQ/giphy.gif

I've written personal checks before. Something millennials probably know nothing about.

Facepalm

09-24-2019, 06:01 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/tg4xZr0X/1440x810-cmsv2-295949eb-b643-5a13-ade3-c49a452ab427-3692794.jpg

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2019/02/27/cohen-documents/ad7535146499737c9ed9b42c927d2549298993c1/page-10.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/YJ7ACYe0ZUlcQ/giphy.gif

Very good boy, front and center

https://cdn3.imggmi.com/uploads/2019/9/25/c933f8e3706b58699a2c68d0cf2a7d6f-full.jpg

Facepalm

09-24-2019, 06:04 PM

Yeahhhh I don't think you read Napolitano's quotes, much less understand them. Here are both of them that you posted in your original post.

Are you having a hard time understanding that this is merely just an accusation at this point? You're out here talking about the President breaking the law. Shame on you. You are nothing but Fake News.

https://media.giphy.com/media/OqAeQrGmU7lS6tENnQ/giphy.gif

In your upside down dystopian world, I guess people are guilty once someone accuses them of something. :oldlol:

Please quote me where I said he broke the law. I'll wait

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SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 06:06 PM

I've written personal checks before. Something millennials probably know nothing about.

you hit stormy too? :lebronamazed:

but no really, it was a conspiracy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faYUae7H8qU).

lock him up.

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 06:07 PM

Please quote me where I said he broke the law. I'll wait

https://media1.giphy.com/media/hl0Kk1UNmRfQk/giphy.gif

Then don't reply with speculative nonsense from some fat TV judge when I ask what crimes the President has committed.

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 06:08 PM

I've written personal checks before. Something millennials probably know nothing about.

Lol, so to you, "I don't know" is the equivalent of something being debunked.

They have record of the money one of the women received and from whom she received it (Michael Cohen). They also have record of Michael Cohen asking Trump to be paid back for the payments he made for Trump as they had agreed. We have Trump then making payments to Cohen, even giving him more to cover the taxes.

Patrick Chewing

09-24-2019, 06:11 PM

Lol, so to you, "I don't know" is the equivalent of something being debunked.

They have record of the money one of the women received and from whom she received it (Michael Cohen). They also have record of Michael Cohen asking Trump to be paid back for the payments he made for Trump as they had agreed. We have Trump then making payments to Cohen, even giving him more to cover the taxes.

Then why isn't Trump being impeached for this? Methinks your case is weak and/or lacks evidence.

Me also thinks once Trump leaves office, NOTHING will happen to him.

MaxFly

09-24-2019, 06:15 PM

Then why isn't Trump being impeached for this? Methinks your case is weak and/or lacks evidence.

Me also thinks once Trump leaves office, NOTHING will happen to him.

They want his taxes. They've sued for it, and so far, they're winning. This impeachment inquiry will likely get it for them first, though. They want to prove that it was a campaign finance violation, but you can't impeach without proof... so they're gathering proof.

I'm willing to bet quite a buy happens when he is booted out. If a Democrat gets into office, they will likely go after him, and as you've indicated, you have no issue with a President using his office go to after a political opponent. So I'm sure you'll cheer it on.

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 06:17 PM

Then why isn't Trump being impeached for this? Methinks your case is weak and/or lacks evidence.

Me also thinks once Trump leaves office, NOTHING will happen to him.

he doesn't have to leave office for stuff to happen to him, chew.

he had a a $25 million judgment against him (https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-finalizes-25-million-settlement-victims-donald-trumps/story?id=54347237) and was forced to shutter his fake university.

and the ny ag, who's coming for him for tax fraud and money laundering, forced him to shutter his fake foundation (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/nyregion/ny-ag-underwood-trump-foundation.html).

all his friends are being locked up, all his hustles shut down, tens of millions in fines.

they just can't put him in a cell with big paulie or mikey c.

yet. :crazysam:

:(

Facepalm

09-24-2019, 06:28 PM

Then don't reply with speculative nonsense from some fat TV judge when I ask what crimes the President has committed.

It's so cute how much you defend your Gawd

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_691xVBQsns/maxresdefault.jpg

TheMan

09-24-2019, 07:01 PM

How about Trump stops doing suspect shit instead?
Trump can't help himself, he's always been a shady "businessman" with all kinds of mob connections. You don't get sued the thousands of times he's been sued if you're going about your business the right way.

I will guarantee you that if Trump gets reelected, he will eventually do something so egregious that he'll end up in prison :lol

I would really love to see that fat cokksucker end his life behind bars, garbage human being, garbage presidency.

SomeBlackDude

09-24-2019, 07:08 PM

oh shit, the repubs in the senate voted with the dems.

unanimously.

bipartisan.

JUST IN: Senate unanimously passes resolution calling for the whistleblower complaint to be transmitted to the House and Senate Intel Committees.

DNI McGuire will appear in an OPEN session in front of Senate Intel Comm.

shanked by his own gang.

is this pence's time to shine?

has the red wall cracked?

https://media3.giphy.com/media/IwYXRW8IXRftS/source.gif

:eek:

Dro

09-24-2019, 07:09 PM

Very good boy, front and center

https://cdn3.imggmi.com/uploads/2019/9/25/c933f8e3706b58699a2c68d0cf2a7d6f-full.jpg
Been looking for this picture for AGES, lol. Definitely saving this shit this time.

CelticBaller

09-24-2019, 10:36 PM

Good riddance

Patrick Chewing

09-25-2019, 09:32 AM

dude77

09-25-2019, 09:48 AM

WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias,' official says (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-whistleblower-complaint-release-congress-white-house)

https://media1.giphy.com/media/6bUqT9YmSS85W/giphy.gif

:lol trumped again ..

lol@dondadda using that gif from the shining .. he used that too in 2016 predicting a clinton landslide

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/01/chuckle.gif

rufuspaul

09-25-2019, 10:00 AM

[Quote]House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was singing a very different tune on impeachment when it was President Bill Clinton who was being accused by a Republican-led House of Representatives.

Patrick Chewing

09-25-2019, 10:08 AM

:lol trumped again ..

lol@dondadda using that gif from the shining .. he used that too in 2016 predicting a clinton landslide

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/01/chuckle.gif

Never take guys like Don, Max, and Kevin with you to Las Vegas. You'll end up in the desert, naked, beaten, and/or dead.

SomeBlackDude

09-25-2019, 10:24 AM

WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias,' official says (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-whistleblower-complaint-release-congress-white-house)

absolute dumbest argument in the world. everyone in politics has 'political bias'. why do you think political parties exist? you think gov officials can't do their job unless they are 100% convinced mexico is gonna buy them a wall? :lol

breaking news.

the emperor not only pushed the ukrainians to dig up dirt on his political opponent, he wanted to involve crooked barr (and rudy of course) in the scheme.

https://i.postimg.cc/XYKFdgKb/image.png

SomeBlackDude

09-25-2019, 10:30 AM

oh boy.

"The United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine... I would like you to do us a favor."

quid pro maga?

:confusedshrug:

Trollsmasher

09-25-2019, 10:31 AM

can't believe the Dems really fell for this nothingburger:roll:

after all that shit this was probably the worst thing to try to impeach Trump over

nathanjizzle

09-25-2019, 10:50 AM

absolute dumbest argument in the world. everyone in politics has 'political bias'. why do you think political parties exist? you think gov officials can't do their job unless they are 100% convinced mexico is gonna buy them a wall? :lol

breaking news.

the emperor not only pushed the ukrainians to dig up dirt on his political opponent, he wanted to involve crooked barr (and rudy of course) in the scheme.

https://i.postimg.cc/XYKFdgKb/image.png

hes done for.

Patrick Chewing

09-25-2019, 10:55 AM

absolute dumbest argument in the world. everyone in politics has 'political bias'.

I'm giving you chances to save some face here. Political bias leads to treachery and witch hunts as we saw with the Fake Russian Collusion Hoax. Why did that investigation begin? Because they were triggered that Trump won the election.

At what point will you drop the shtick and accept that Trump is President and he hasn't committed any nefarious actions??

SomeBlackDude

09-25-2019, 10:57 AM

turns out the ukraine shenanigans were referred to the doj for possible criminal prosecution. willy 'i exonerated him' barr declined.

[QUOTE]NEW: DOJ explored whether Trump's call with the Ukrainian president would merit a criminal investigation into campaign finance violations. They concluded it would not

Patrick Chewing

09-25-2019, 11:00 AM

https://i.ibb.co/mHpW26z/lindsey.png

:lol :lol :lol

nathanjizzle

09-25-2019, 11:47 AM

a memorandum not a transcript was released....

rufuspaul

09-25-2019, 11:50 AM

I'm sorry but I don't see any high crimes and misdemeanors in that transcript. Keep digging Dems.

Patrick Chewing

09-25-2019, 11:59 AM

I'm sorry but I don't see any high crimes and misdemeanors in that transcript. Keep digging Dems.

If anything, Trump is trying to bring law and order back to this country by calling out Biden's high crimes and misdemeanors.

Can you imagine if Biden became President and his crimes became public?? Not good for the country.

Better to uncover his high crimes and misdemeanors now, lock him and his son up, and save the country from any further embarrassment. Hopefully Biden will start singing and tell us what Obama knew. Who knows how far up these crimes go. Shady, shady business.

rufuspaul

09-25-2019, 12:01 PM

Trump is meeting with the Ukrainian president today. They'll answer questions afterwards and then Trump has a news conference scheduled. Should be good theater.

Patrick Chewing

09-25-2019, 12:12 PM

RRR3

09-25-2019, 12:16 PM

*Trump murders someone on live TV*

Patty and Rufus: I didn’t see any crime committed

Patrick Chewing

09-25-2019, 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=RRR3]*Trump murders someone on live TV*

Patty and Rufus: I didn

RRR3

09-25-2019, 12:19 PM

Trump has committed plenty of crimes. And you deny them all. So I

CelticBaller

09-25-2019, 12:19 PM

Biden is a presidential candidate

I don’t think you’re allowed to have a foreign country interfere with the elections. But that’s just me you know

MaxFly

09-25-2019, 12:27 PM

If anything, Trump is trying to bring law and order back to this country by calling out Biden's high crimes and misdemeanors.

Can you imagine if Biden became President and his crimes became public?? Not good for the country.

Better to uncover his high crimes and misdemeanors now, lock him and his son up, and save the country from any further embarrassment. Hopefully Biden will start singing and tell us what Obama knew. Who knows how far up these crimes go. Shady, shady business.

He asked a foreign government to start an investigation on a political adversary. Somehow, Barr claims he knew nothing about it and wasn't consulted or involved, yet Trump mentions him in the call as someone who knew about it all and was involved. Who is lying, and why. Well, the impeachment inquiry will get to the bottom of it all.

Incidentally, which crimes and misdemeanors did Biden perpetrate?

SomeBlackDude

09-25-2019, 12:28 PM

Lead counsel representing the Ukraine whistleblower donated to Joe Biden's presidential campaign earlier this year, records show. (https://freebeacon.com/politics/ukraine-whistleblowers-lead-attorney-donated-to-biden/
)

Another Whoopsie Daisy??

https://media1.giphy.com/media/6bUqT9YmSS85W/giphy.gif

smh you gotta get over the 'political bias' gaslighting, chew. :facepalm

virtually everyone in dc is a member of a political party and/or donates to candidates.

mueller is a lifelong registered republican, worked for the bush admin and was still labeled as biased by maga.

the important thing to note here is that the ic ig michael atkinson, who deemed the whistleblower's report to be both credible and urgent, was appointed personally by the emperor himself (https://www.govexec.com/management/2017/11/trump-nominates-justice-dept-attorney-be-intel-community-watchdog/142281/). handpicked by the emperor himself, chew.

are we getting into political bias inception here, chewy?

did the emperor bias himself?

:confusedshrug: