New poll shows Joe Biden clear favorite to win the Democratic Nomination

[CelticBaller]

A lot of people that are pro-Trump are under the impression that Biden is the best choice because of Trump's nationalist, borderline fascist nature among other things.

I'm not surprised. It's a shifting middle trying to figure itself out. I'm just very unsure of Biden for anything other than a "let's unite by the safe old white guy that will do little to nothing instead of 4 more years of maybe-borderline fascism by the crazy reality-tv white guy that women and immigrants can't stand."

The green new deal is a great starting point for the USA to work it's issues out. I'm not saying everything would get passed but at least there are people working towards the future with new ideas. Still waiting to see what Biden has to say about the environment, can't wait until the next debate to see if Bernie can hose him.

Let the best politician win.

Come on, anybody with a brain that has read the green new deal knows it’s nowhere near a “good starting point”

[DoctorP]

Come on, anybody with a brain that has read the green new deal knows it’s nowhere near a “good starting point”

oh yeah? have anything to share other than easily googled political machine propaganda?

I really don't know all of the details about it but it (or a version of it) passed in NYC already to less than apocalyptic results, apparently.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-19/new-york-passing-its-own-green-new-deal-with-aggressive-targets

[CelticBaller]

oh yeah? have anything to share other than easily googled political machine propaganda?

I really don't know all of the details about it but it (or a version of it) passed in NYC already to less than apocalyptic results, apparently.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-19/new-york-passing-its-own-green-new-deal-with-aggressive-targets

Propaganda? I read the ****ing thing and you don’t even know shit about it. That bill is nowhere near close what the green new deal is proposing

Seriously educate yourself. The green new deal is public for anyone to read.

[DoctorP]

Propaganda? I read the ****ing thing and you don’t even know shit about it. That bill is nowhere near close what the green new deal is proposing

Seriously educate yourself. The green new deal is public for anyone to read.

:lol you got mad at one word?
:lol You read it? Admit it, you havent read shit :lol

Im waiting for a document.

[Facepalm]

Booker endorsed him

[CelticBaller]

Build the 7.4 million affordable housing units to close the affordable housing gap across the country and guarantee safe, decent, accessible affordable housing. We will greatly expand the National Housing Trust Fund to build the units necessary to guarantee housing as a right to all Americans.

Ensure a just transition for energy workers. When we are in the White House, we will create millions of union, family-wage jobs through the Green New Deal in steel and auto manufacturing, construction, energy efficiency retrofitting, coding and server farms, and renewable power plants. We will spend $1.3 trillion to ensure that workers in the fossil fuel and other carbon intensive industries receive strong benefits, a living wage, training, and job placement. We will protect the right of all workers to form a union without threats or intimidation from management. The benefits include:

Up to five years of a wage guarantee, job placement assistance, relocation assistance, health care, and a pension based on their previous salary.

If workers would like to receive training for a different career path, they will receive either a four-year college education or vocational job training with living expenses provided. They will also be eligible for health care through Medicare for All.

We will fully fund tenant-based Housing Choice Vouchers to ensure housing assistance to provide safe and affordable housing.

If a worker is ready to retire, they may opt for pension support and access to health care through Medicare for All.

Currently, the Black Lung Disability Trust Fund and multi-employer miners pensions are paid for by coal companies. We will protect miners’ pensions and provide $15 billion for the Black Lung Disability Fund to ensure it remains solvent as we
transition away from coal.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/green-new-deal/

literally public domain :facepalm

[DoctorP]

https://berniesanders.com/issues/green-new-deal/

literally public domain :facepalm

thats not the bill dude, thats a pamphlet :lol

[CelticBaller]

That's literally what Bernie is pushing. What AOC pushed already got shut down overwhelmingly by every single democrat

[DoctorP]

That's literally what Bernie is pushing. What AOC pushed already got shut down overwhelmingly by every single democrat

you must be blind dude. what AOC pushed already passed :lol

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-19/new-york-passing-its-own-green-new-deal-with-aggressive-targets

[CelticBaller]

M) obtaining the free, prior, and informed
2 consent of indigenous peoples for all decisions
3 that affect indigenous peoples and their tradi4 tional territories, honoring all treaties and
5 agreements with indigenous peoples, and pro6 tecting and enforcing the sovereignty and land
7 rights of indigenous peoples;
8 (N) ensuring a commercial environment
9 where every businessperson is free from unfair
10 competition and domination by domestic or
11 international monopolies; and
12 (O) providing all people of the United
13 States with—
14 (i) high-quality health care;
15 (ii) affordable, safe, and adequate
16 housing;
17 (iii) economic security; and
18 (iv) clean water, clean air, healthy and
19 affordable food, and access to nature.
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres109/BILLS-116hres109ih.pdf
Sure it did....

[DoctorP]

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres109/BILLS-116hres109ih.pdf
Sure it did....

read it and weep https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-19/new-york-passing-its-own-green-new-deal-with-aggressive-targets

biden voters :lol

[CelticBaller]

sight...


New York’s Senate has passed the state’s own version of the Green New Deal

They literally passed what they called "GND" which has nothing to do with AOC's socialist dream. Her bill never passed you idiot

[DoctorP]

sight...



They literally passed what they called "GND" which has nothing to do with AOC's socialist dream. Her bill never passed you idiot

keep reading, slappy. now im questioning your reading ability overall. :lol

[CelticBaller]

Lmao you cant even articulate an argument as to why the bills are even closely related :oldlol:

The damn article says it's not the same bill. Go back to your joker gimmick im getting bored with toying with you

[Phong]

keep reading, slappy. now im questioning your reading ability overall. :lol You're so clueless. What New York passed isn't AOC's proposal. Hers what a nationwide endeavor; not a NY City plan. Her Green New Deal was rejected by everyone, even Democrats.

AOC Green New Deal (10 year plan):
- 100% renewable energy
- no gasoline cars
- replace air travel with high speed rail
- replace all gas stoves and water heaters in every single building in the US with electric ones
- stop cattle from farting methane
- etc.

Senate Rejects Green New Deal as Most Democrats Vote 'Present'
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/27/senate_votes_down_green_new_deal_as_most_democrats _vote_present_139869.html

[DoctorP]

Lmao you cant even articulate an argument as to why the bills are even closely related :oldlol:

The damn article says it's not the same bill. Go back to your joker gimmick im getting bored with toying with you

you say the same dumb shit about multiple accounts whenever you cant come back with anything intelligent. The bill you are talking about is the AOC bill, dumbass. AOC helped pass it in NYC along with republicans.

You prove my point: Biden is the LOW IQ candidate for dumbasses.

[DoctorP]

You're so clueless. What New York passed isn't AOC's proposal. Hers what a nationwide endeavor; not a NY City plan. Her Green New Deal was rejected by everyone, even Democrats.

Senate Rejects Green New Deal as Most Democrats Vote 'Present'
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/27/senate_votes_down_green_new_deal_as_most_democrats _vote_present_139869.html


check the date on that article

and then the one i posted.


I SWEAR YALL ARE DUMB AS ROCKS

:lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/rNQD697E80mkg/giphy.gif

[CelticBaller]

you say the same dumb shit about multiple accounts whenever you cant come back with anything intelligent. The bill you are talking about is the AOC bill, dumbass. AOC helped pass it in NYC along with republicans.

You prove my point: Biden is the LOW IQ candidate for dumbasses.
Wait, do you honestly believe that AOC works in the NY Senate?

[DoctorP]

Wait, do you honestly believe that AOC works in the NY Senate?

she helped them pass it, numbnuts. thats all im saying

cant take the truth so you attack people in a way that makes sense only to you :lol

[CelticBaller]

You're so clueless. What New York passed isn't AOC's proposal. Hers what a nationwide endeavor; not a NY City plan. Her Green New Deal was rejected by everyone, even Democrats.

Senate Rejects Green New Deal as Most Democrats Vote 'Present'
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/27/senate_votes_down_green_new_deal_as_most_democrats _vote_present_139869.html

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/s2878

He's talking about this bill passed by the NY Senate where there's not a single mention of AOC :lol

I think this dude has the houses mixed up lol.

[DoctorP]

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/s2878

He's talking about this bill passed by the NY Senate where there's not a single mention of AOC :lol

I think this dude has the houses mixed up lol.

you are looking at minute details thatt make no connection. why would she be listed there? she doesnt ratify anything?

GOOOOSSSHHH. YOUVE BEEN EXPOSED AND THERES NO SAVING YOU NOW :lol

[DoctorP]

HERE IT IS FOLKS GAME OVER

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-19/new-york-passing-its-own-green-new-deal-with-aggressive-targets

JUNE 2019

it happened. Deal with it. AOC is credited in the article as one of the creators of the original version.

PEACE :lol

[CelticBaller]

cringe

[DoctorP]

celtic baller like:

https://media1.giphy.com/media/AsArdOVzTM3LARfvjg/giphy.gif

[DoctorP]

cringe

yeah. you should be cringing with your uninformed Biden-voter ass :lol

[DoctorP]

by all indications: Bernie is TOAST

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/09/polls-joe-biden-holds-lead-over-bernie-sanders-michigan-primaries/4994142002/

[Norcaliblunt]

Better debater? Bernie also gaffes and has been caught breathing heavily in his debates. Trump will absolute torture him

What do I like about Biden over Bernie? Well..

1. He’s a neoliberal, not a socialist

2. Hes a successful congress politician, not a failure like Bernie

3. His policies are more fiscally responsible

Just 3 off my head.


So voting to authorize the war in Iraq is fiscally responsible now? Lol.

[DoctorP]

Bernie Bros like:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/db/7d/4fdb7d3862c8d68472d6aeeb60336ae3.gif

[CelticBaller]

So voting to authorize the war in Iraq is fiscally responsible now? Lol.

Bernie authorized war in Afghanistan too so

This is a comparison between the two.

[bladefd]

How long will it be until mass media adds up Pete+Klobuchar+Bloomberg delegate count to Biden's delegate count and start showing that total? I think it will happen only if Bernie wins Michigan/Washington/Idaho to catchup and only if the establishment gets scared again.

Reminds me of 2016.. CNN was showing Hillary up like 400 delegates days before the primary even began (superdelegates) to dishearten a lot of potential Bernie voters. :facepalm

[DoctorP]

CNN is in LOVE with Biden now

The amount of propaganda is considerable

[bladefd]

I really would love to see Bernie come back then watch the establishment meltdown. Establishment is currently rolling in full strength and looks invincible. Bernie comeback would be awesome, but alas it seems unlikely :(

[DoctorP]

I really would love to see Bernie come back then watch the establishment meltdown. Establishment is currently rolling in full strength and looks invincible. Bernie comeback would be awesome, but alas it seems unlikely :(


Never say never. Hillary was a lock according to the media. All bs.

[diamenz]

mo and ms have been called for biden on the spot. overwhelming victory.

[DoctorP]

mo and ms have been called for biden on the spot. overwhelming victory.




Bloodbath?

[CelticBaller]

Michigan, Missouri and Mississippi said no to the socialist :banana:

[diamenz]

Bloodbath?

it usually is when it's called this early from exit polls alone.

hillary won mo by only one point against sanders in 2016, so that goes to show you how much things have shifted.

[1987_Lakers]

I can't believe a guy with clear signs of dementia is going to be the democratic nominee.

[diamenz]

I can't believe a guy with clear signs of dementia is going to be the democratic nominee.

let's hope they allow sleepy joe to at least sit down during the debates with trump.

[CelticBaller]

it usually is when it's called this early from exit polls alone.

hillary won mo by only one point against sanders in 2016, so that goes to show you how much things have shifted.

Biden is polling way better than Hilary among middle class whites

[bladefd]

Biden should have run in 2016 when he was still mentally alright. Hillary messed things up failing to Lil Donny..

[diamenz]

Biden should have run in 2016 when he was still mentally alright. Hillary messed things up failing to Lil Donny..

if biden had been the nominee in 2016 i'm confident in saying that he'd be running for reelection now.

[1987_Lakers]

Biden should have run in 2016 when he was still mentally alright. Hillary messed things up failing to Lil Donny..

I remember wishing Biden would run in 2016 because I disliked Hillary. Biden in 2020 is like a different person, if he does become president I can already imagine all the blunders he will have in his speeches and interviews, he might top George W. in that department and that is saying something. I really don't trust his judgement because of his mental decline.

[DoctorP]

I think there is NO WAY Biden beats Trump now. If the first female president couldnt hook the sheep, the "more politically correct Trump" aint gonna do it.

I could be wrong and if I were it doesn't even matter to me anymore because I see a field of cucks.

[bladefd]

I remember wishing Biden would run in 2016 because I disliked Hillary. Biden in 2020 is like a different person, if he does become president I can already imagine all the blunders he will have in his speeches and interviews, he might top George W. in that department and that is saying something. I really don't trust his judgement because of his mental decline.

If Biden had won in 2016, there would never have been a Trump or people voting in 2020 to get Trump out of office rather than the ideas. Biden would have probably been losing re-election right now to Bernie. We would have been better off in 2020.

Ah well, Bernie is done here. Biden advances to next round..

[CelticBaller]

Bernie bros can you guys finally realize that your far leftist ideas of capitalism and socialism aren’t the norm?

[DoctorP]

Bernie bros can you guys finally realize that your far leftist ideas of capitalism and socialism aren’t the norm?

sure. let's disband welfare, food stamps, entitlements, the police, the fire dept, libraries, public schools and let the 1% trickle it all down.

sounds like a plan.

[CelticBaller]

sure. let's disband welfare, food stamps, entitlements, the police, the fire dept, libraries and let the 1% trickle it all down.

sounds like a plan.
Yeah and next thing you know you’re going to tell me that Sweden is a socialist country lmao

[DoctorP]

Yeah and next thing you know you’re going to tell me that Sweden is a socialist country lmao

Swedish women are so hot I don't really care what kind of system they are running.

[bladefd]

Bernie bros can you guys finally realize that your far leftist ideas of capitalism and socialism aren’t the norm?

This country leans sooo far right on average that even a centrist will appear to be far left.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020


Bernie Sanders is popularly perceived in his own country as an off-the-wall left figure; in other western democracies he would sit squarely within the mainstream social democratic parties that regularly form governments or comprise the largest opposition. Conversely, a US candidate who believes in unfettered market forces or capital punishment may be seen at home as mainstream, but ‘extreme’ in other developed countries.

[DoctorP]

This country leans sooo far right on average that even a centrist will appear to be far left.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020

Sanders did better than many progressives have ever done here and he will surely find solace in that after a life of work.

[CelticBaller]

This country leans sooo far right on average that even a centrist will appear to be far left.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
No he doesn’t

He falls in line with Jeremy Corbyn from the UK. Both far leftist

Political compass is a hack page.

[DoctorP]

Bernie bros can you guys finally realize that your far leftist ideas of capitalism and socialism aren’t the norm?

Maybe it should all be privatized: police, fire, schooling, welfare, entitlements... that would be some experiment


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZq7fW6ftlU

[bladefd]

No he doesn’t

He falls in line with Jeremy Corbyn from the UK. Both far leftist

Political compass is a hack page.

You can't fit both economics and politics on a one-dimensional left-right scale. Economics and politics need to be separated to form a two-dimensional scale. Political compass does it properly.

My political compass: https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-3.25&soc=-3.18

What do you get? https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

[CelticBaller]

https://mobile.twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1237546517893799937

Bernie night drop out tomorrow

[DoctorP]

You can't fit both economics and politics on a one-dimensional left-right scale. Economics and politics need to be separated to form a two-dimensional scale. Political compass does it properly.

My political compass: https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-3.25&soc=-3.18

What do you get? https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

hey thanks dude, i did the test. For sure it is prone to random variables to make it less than 100% accurate but at least it's some kind of structure :lol

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-5.13&soc=-4.51

[CelticBaller]

You can't fit both economics and politics on a one-dimensional left-right scale. Economics and politics need to be separated to form a two-dimensional scale. Political compass does it properly.

My political compass: https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-3.25&soc=-3.18

What do you get? https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=1.25&soc=-0.97

Social libertarian

Aka a centrist in the US like I’ve always known

[CelticBaller]

Yang endorsed Biden

[Facepalm]

Did this same test last week


https://im3.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-3-ee81d5d8a192.png

[Hawker]

Damn. Bernie is getting smoked.

[DoctorP]

Did this same test last week


https://im3.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-3-ee81d5d8a192.png

you fascist. (jk)

[DoctorP]

Yang endorsed Biden

Yang 4 Biden?

https://media.tenor.com/images/ccbf1b1b48259f42e980f787ef635750/tenor.gif

[CelticBaller]

Yang 4 Biden?

https://media.tenor.com/images/ccbf1b1b48259f42e980f787ef635750/tenor.gif

Yang has always been pro capitalism

[DoctorP]

Yang has always been pro capitalism

oh yea i wasnt assuming any official stance tho

Biden / Yang would be dandy im sure

[Patrick Chewing]

Damn. Bernie is getting smoked.

This makes me sad. Bernie, as crazy as he is, would have been fun to watch at the debates. There is no way someone that Far Left and a Socialist would ever get elected, but the theatrics would have been nice.


Crazy/Sleepy Joe is so senile that it'll be a thorough drubbing at the hands of Trump. He's so senile he may concede during the debates. :lol

[DoctorP]

This makes me sad. Bernie, as crazy as he is, would have been fun to watch at the debates. There is no way someone that Far Left and a Socialist would ever get elected, but the theatrics would have been nice.


Crazy/Sleepy Joe is so senile that it'll be a thorough drubbing at the hands of Trump. He's so senile he may concede during the debates. :lol

Never say never. Bernie can rile up a crowd with truth bombs

[Cleverness]

If Biden knows how to fix America, why didn't he tell Obama? :confusedshrug:

[Patrick Chewing]

People on suicide watch after tonight:

RRR3
TheMan

[coin24]

People on suicide watch after tonight:

RRR3
TheMan


Just think of those poor trannies tonight listening to soytits cry about no free Medicare

[diamenz]

If Biden knows how to fix America, why didn't he tell Obama? :confusedshrug:

because that would be racist.

[bladefd]

oh yea i wasnt assuming any official stance tho

Biden / Yang would be dandy im sure

Establishment would not allow it. Watch it be some establishment person (woman I bet like Klobuchar)..

[DoctorP]

celticballer ws a bot