New poll shows Joe Biden clear favorite to win the Democratic Nomination

[1987_Lakers]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-final-forecast-for-super-tuesday-shows-bidens-surge-and-lots-of-uncertainty/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-03-at-11.11.36-AM.png?w=575

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-03-at-10.36.02-AM.png?w=575

[rawimpact]

I dont really put much stock in polls anymore, but going exactly like planned here for the repubs

[RRR3]

We are guaranteed Trump if it’s Biden.


Guaranteed.

[rufuspaul]

Debates between Trump and Biden will be hilarious if that happens.

[Hawker]

We are guaranteed Trump if it’s Biden.


Guaranteed.

Is Bernie going to sell out and get his fourth house like he did in 2016?

[bladefd]

I believe that includes superdelegates, which are heavy establishment. If Bernie wins big today, none of it matters. If Bernie wins California handily and Texas, there is nothing the establishment can do.

Unfortunately, I have a feeling Democrat establishment will get so desperate that they will side with Trump if Bernie is the Democrat nominee. I don't think Bernie can defeat Trump + Republican party + Democrat establishment..

[bladefd]

Democrat establishment probably celebrating, but hold up, day is far from over

[diamenz]

bernie's finished. black america is putting the nails in his coffin.

[FultzNationRISE]

bernie's finished. black america is putting the nails in his coffin.

SWEET DELICIOUS IRONY :rockon: :hammertime: :rockon:

[tpols]

said it 1000 times here.

cant believe those mfers all voted sleepy solely because he was an obama guy. smh... all the charts are correct.

cant wait to see trump take a steaming dump on sleepy joe biden.

its gonna be an absolute incineration in the debates.

[diamenz]

SWEET DELICIOUS IRONY :rockon: :hammertime: :rockon:

i'm disappointed. a populist vs. populist would have been entertaining to see - especially in the debates. who can honestly say they're looking forward to seeing a debate between trump & biden? well it actually would be fun watching trump run circles around him. personally, if it's not bernie, i'm jumping on the trump train.

[FultzNationRISE]

i'm disappointed. a populist vs. populist would have been entertaining to see - especially in the debates. who can honestly say they're looking forward to seeing a debate between trump & biden? well it actually would be fun watching trump run circles around him. personally, if it's not bernie, i'm jumping on the trump train.


In all seriousness, and I say this without partisan motivation, it seems pretty clear Sleepy Joe has lost quite a few steps mentally. It’s not that he’s simply eccentric like Trump, who has always been that way, but he sounds like a typical old and confused guy in a nursing home. He’s a shell of a man by now.

Someone here recently half-joked, might have even been you, that continuing to trot this man out for public appearances is elder abuse. And I honestly think that’s true. The establishment is giving this man the Weekend at Bernie’s (no pun intended) treatment to protect their interests. It’s sad and uncomfortable frankly.

It could actually become quite embarrassing in a general election. Sleepy Joe very well could have dementia, which is progressive and incurable. Who besides black people and DNC party bots will be voting for him??

[CelticBaller]

said it 1000 times here.

cant believe those mfers all voted sleepy solely because he was an obama guy. smh... all the charts are correct.

cant wait to see trump take a steaming dump on sleepy joe biden.

its gonna be an absolute incineration in the debates.
Funny how the actual working middle class votes for Biden and the elitist states vote for Sanders

Well well well

[diamenz]

In all seriousness, and I say this without partisan motivation, it seems pretty clear Sleepy Joe has lost quite a few steps mentally. It’s not that he’s simply eccentric like Trump, who has always been that way, but he sounds like a typical old and confused guy in a nursing home. He’s a shell of a man by now.

Someone here recently half-joked, might have even been you, that continuing to trot this man out for public appearances is elder abuse. And I honestly think that’s true. The establishment is giving this man the Weekend at Bernie’s (no pun intended) treatment to protect their interests. It’s sad and uncomfortable frankly.

It could actually become quite embarrassing in a general election. Sleepy Joe very well could have dementia, which is progressive and incurable. Who besides black people and DNC party bots will be voting for him??

and if it were bernie or trump making those gaffes and missteps, it would be an entirely different narrative being pushed by the establishment and media. no wonder so many people feel disfranchised and don't bother voting. shit's nothing but entertainment. it's a f***king clown show.

[hold this L]

bernie's finished. black america is putting the nails in his coffin.
Haven't followed. What happened?

[diamenz]

Haven't followed. What happened?

i may have overeacted a bit, but sanders is for the most part getting reamed in the south.

[tpols]

Funny how the actual working middle class votes for Biden and the elitist states vote for Sanders

Well well well

cant fix dumb.

youre a perfect example mate.

Trump it is.

Again.

[CelticBaller]

cant fix dumb.

youre a perfect example mate.

Trump it is.

Again.
ok don lemon :oldlol:

[sd3035]

Easy win for Trump regardless

[GimmeThat]

at this rate, it seems that there still needs to be a bail-out option for America, and Joe Biden's we done did our rankings, and nothing's gonna change attitude isn't gonna help him get any votes.

when it's clear the democratic party isn't the saving yourself party, and the war of their generation is the political war.

[RRR3]

Trump is guaranteed reelection.

This country is truly retarded.

[CelticBaller]

Trump is guaranteed reelection.

This country is truly retarded.
Social justice warriors mad that the rest of the country doesn’t agree with their idiotic ideas

Oof, get off ya white savior pedestal

[DoctorP]

Sleepy Joe has good brain farts at times, I like what he said on solar. It doesn't even matter at this point, if the USA could elect GWB we can elect Sleepy Joe in a landslide.

[1987_Lakers]

Sleepy Joe has good brain farts at times, I like what he said on solar. It doesn't even matter at this point, if the USA could elect GWB we can elect Sleepy Joe in a landslide.

Nah, Trump is taking it.

[DoctorP]

Nah, Trump is taking it.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/l41lYy7vSjsk19En6/source.gif

[CelticBaller]

https://i.imgur.com/BufGkev.png

[DoctorP]

https://i.ibb.co/ryYK7ZL/scrab.jpg

[DoctorP]

https://i.ibb.co/XVCzByb/biden2.png

[Hawker]

Social justice warriors mad that the rest of the country doesn’t agree with their idiotic ideas

Oof, get off ya white savior pedestal

How many times have we heard from Bernie supporters that his ideas are common sense and supported by the vast majority of Americans?

Yet he only wins 25% of the democrats.

[Hawker]

Trump is guaranteed reelection.

Democrats are truly retarded.

Fixed

[TheMan]

Funny how the actual working middle class votes for Biden and the elitist states vote for Sanders

Well well well

Elitist states? The fukk are you talking about you retard? There aren't any in working class people in NH, IA, CA, NV?

Fukk off with your stupid hot takes.

[FultzNationRISE]

Elitist states? The fukk are you talking about you retard? There aren't any in working class people in NH, IA, CA, NV?

Fukk off with your stupid hot takes.


The melting has begun!


:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:

[diamenz]

https://i.redd.it/00f3s00xckk41.jpg

[FultzNationRISE]

https://i.redd.it/00f3s00xckk41.jpg



:roll: :applause:

[DoctorP]

https://i.ibb.co/s1g586R/44.png

[Draz]

You can't win with this.

There's two type of people

'there's no win if Bernie gets it'

'there's no win if Biden gets it'

[TheMan]

https://i.ibb.co/XVCzByb/biden2.png
Biden basically wins in states Dems don't and won't win even if it's Biden the Democratic candidate.

People are jumping the gun too quickly here though, Biden CAN win, for some reason he's popular amongst working class whites in PA, MN, MI, WI and OH. All he has to do is keep the Dem states that HC won and add the rust belt states that lean Blue and went to Trump in 16.

Sucks though, Biden is more same ol', same ol'.

[FultzNationRISE]

Whichever Democrat side ends up losing, I wonder if theyll practice tolerance and support the other candidate?

Remember tolerance, that thing theyre always bragging separates them from conservatives?

Let’s see if they shake hands and say good fight, or if they throw intolerant tantrums about other people having different values than they do.

Dis gon b gud!

[TheMan]

The melting has begun!


:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:
Biden can beat Trump and you'll look like an even bigger idiot than usual if he does for acting like he had no shot...and I don't even like Biden.

[DoctorP]

Whichever Democrat side ends up losing, I wonder if theyll practice tolerance and support the other candidate?

Remember tolerance, that thing theyre always bragging separates them from conservatives?

Let’s see if they shake hands and say good fight, or if they throw intolerant tantrums about other people having different values than they do.

Dis gon b gud!

https://media0.giphy.com/media/lITTs4lLasc2Q/giphy.gif

[Long Duck Dong]

Trump is guaranteed reelection.

This country is truly retarded.

You're the retarded one if you think Bernie stood a better chance than Biden against Trump. Trump will win however if butthurt Bernie Bros stay home for presidential election. :lol

Loving the moment :hammertime:

[Stephonit]

Hillary Clinton redux. Four more years of Trump here we come!

[Rolando]

4 more years of Trump. And this time, I'm not going to be nice a vote for the Democratic loser. I'll just vote for Trump. First time ever I vote Republican.

The Establishment played it perfectly. Consolodate the conservative democrats by have Klobochar and Bootyjudge drop out and endorse Biden. Keep Warren in there to split up the Progressive vote.

I will be very entertained, as will everyone, to see Trump debate with Biden. It will be a massacre. Let's all watch and enjoy the democratic party lose yet again. Idiots.

[Rolando]

You're the retarded one if you think Bernie stood a better chance than Biden against Trump. Trump will win however if butthurt Bernie Bros stay home for presidential election. :lol

Loving the moment :hammertime:

I disagree. But speaking to my fellow Bernie Bros: Let's just vote for Trump directly. I'd rather do that than not participate. Last time, I was a good soldier and voted for that cÜnt Hillary. Never again...

[FultzNationRISE]

4 more years of Trump. And this time, I'm not going to be nice a vote for the Democratic loser. I'll just vote for Trump. First time ever I vote Republican.

The Establishment played it perfectly. Consolodate the conservative democrats by have Klobochar and Bootyjudge drop out and endorse Biden. Keep Warren in there to split up the Progressive vote.

I will be very entertained, as will everyone, to see Trump debate with Biden. It will be a massacre. Let's all watch and enjoy the democratic party lose yet again. Idiots.


There are SOME areas of common ground that Trump is more willing to broker than an establishment puppet from either party, at least to the extent he can from the executive branch, as well as put pressure on the establishment Congress to do more populist things.

Minority jobs are up, we have criminal justice reform, he’s been trial ballooning troop withdrawal, our trade agreements have improved, etc. These are all things the left claimed Trump would PREVENT.

The harder the left fights him with mindless, petty meltdowns, the more they actually push him to take cover under the classical republican platform, which is not who he is traditionally. It’s the same affect as groups like BLM and ANTIFA making people feel more racist and more conservative simply out of resentment for their antics.

Having some dignity and not screeching Orange Man Bad at all times doesnt mean youre agreeing or endorsing every Trump policy. Youve figured that out. Tpols figured that out. Even Nanners figured that out. The dudes who wont put their big boy pants on are the true most pathetic losers in this country; the r3s, the Millertime’s, TheWoman’s, the LakerLegend’s, the Loco’s. There is no hope for these guys, because they are what they are. Shrill, shameless, screaming-at-the-sky freakshows.

We can actually do more populist things for this country the next four years with Trump than we could with any traditional establishment candidate. If the left will swallow their pride and make the best of it until next election, the country will be on a pretty decent path.

The establishment media/congress will be the ones aiming their missiles at Trump at all times. They want that distraction and that division.

Losers like andgar and the rest of the TDS crew already took the sheep bait once.

Will they insist on taking it again??

Stay tuned...

[Long Duck Dong]

I will be very entertained, as will everyone, to see Trump debate with Biden. It will be a massacre. Let's all watch and enjoy the democratic party lose yet again. Idiots.

Trump isn't going to massacre Biden or anyone in a debate. He will bully, troll, and belittle them but I don't see a massacre. You're right about one thing, it's going to be entertaining. :oldlol: If Biden gaffs though Trump will pounce like a leopard and hold on like a pitbull.

[DoctorP]

I disagree. But speaking to my fellow Bernie Bros: Let's just vote for Trump directly. I'd rather do that than not participate. Last time, I was a good soldier and voted for that cÜnt Hillary. Never again...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/eHYazg6wGDqYE/giphy.gif

https://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Ron-Weasley-Confused-What-The-Hell-Gif.gif

[CelticBaller]

The melting has begun!


:hammertime: :hammertime:
This is 2016 all over again :oldlol:

These far leftist need to go outside more and actually talk to people instead of staying in their own little bubble. Maybe then they would accurately predict shit

[CelticBaller]

Biden basically wins in states Dems don't and won't win even if it's Biden the Democratic candidate.

People are jumping the gun too quickly here though, Biden CAN win, for some reason he's popular amongst working class whites in PA, MN, MI, WI and OH. All he has to do is keep the Dem states that HC won and add the rust belt states that lean Blue and went to Trump in 16.

Sucks though, Biden is more same ol', same ol'.

Biden wins in battleground states, Bernie wins in states that are guaranteed to vote blue :facepalm

[diamenz]

Biden can beat Trump and you'll look like an even bigger idiot than usual if he does for acting like he had no shot...and I don't even like Biden.

why does biden beat trump? because he's a 'nice guy'? because he thinks mayor pete is a "Beau"? because he was barack's cuck for eight years? what is this guy running his platform on? a return to 'normalcy'? if this were a traditional election, yeah - he'd probably have as much of a chance as the next guy... but you're not beating the trump machine running as hillary 2.0. i dunno, to me it's just so plain to see.

[rawimpact]

Nice try Sanders... but the democratic party was never going to let you win because it would be a landslide for trump. Fact is that moderate dems control the majority vote for the dems, with Bernie as a general candidate i doubt they even show up to the polls. Biden is your best shot... and even with a better chance, it's not looking good.

[rawimpact]

Biden can beat Trump and you'll look like an even bigger idiot than usual if he does for acting like he had no shot...and I don't even like Biden.


And when Bernie beats Trump, we'll be sure to thank you guys :cheers:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477422-New-poll-shows-Bernie-Sanders-clear-favorite-to-win-the-Democratic-Nomination&p=13939602&viewfull=1#post13939602

Just the other day you were preaching about how Sanders can beat trump and he's the frontrunner and now you've reversed it to Biden? C'mon man...

[rufuspaul]

We are witnessing Bernie being screwed over by the establishment in real time. Again.

[CelticBaller]

why does biden beat trump? because he's a 'nice guy'? because he thinks mayor pete is a "Beau"? because he was barack's cuck for eight years? what is this guy running his platform on? a return to 'normalcy'? if this were a traditional election, yeah - he'd probably have as much of a chance as the next guy... but you're not beating the trump machine running as hillary 2.0. i dunno, to me it's just so plain to see.

1. Biden is a moderate, the majority of the country leans in the center in politics (and that’s on both sides)

2. Hilary never cared to win the rust belt, Biden has campaigned there and has shown he can have a huge voter turnout

3. Sanders is a socialist, that’s a label that will never win him an election in a pro capitalist country

[CelticBaller]

We are witnessing Bernie being screwed over by the establishment in real time. Again.

Lmao Rufus we know damn well what your tactic is, trying to create discord to make Bernie voters vote for trump :oldlol:

[rufuspaul]

Lmao Rufus we know damn well what your tactic is, trying to create discord to make Bernie voters vote for trump :oldlol:

No need, the Dems are more than capable of screwing up all by themselves. Biden is who the DNC anointed from the beginning so he's gonna be the nominee. The debates are gonna be hilarious. 2 senile old farts attacking each other.

[CelticBaller]

No need, the Dems are more than capable of screwing up all by themselves. Biden is who the DNC anointed from the beginning so he's gonna be the nominee. The debates are gonna be hilarious. 2 senile old farts attacking each other.

Yeah but the voters chose Biden over Sanders.

Isn’t it hilarious how Biden won in states he didn’t drop a single dollar in? On the other hand sanders was trying to do what mini mike was doing but with other people’s money :lol

[diamenz]

1. Biden is a moderate, the majority of the country leans in the center in politics (and that’s on both sides)

2. Hilary never cared to win the rust belt, Biden has campaigned there and has shown he can have a huge voter turnout

3. Sanders is a socialist, that’s a label that will never win him an election in a pro capitalist country

those points would all swing well in a traditional election, but not against trump's populism.

[MaxFly]

Biden basically wins in states Dems don't and won't win even if it's Biden the Democratic candidate.

People are jumping the gun too quickly here though, Biden CAN win, for some reason he's popular amongst working class whites in PA, MN, MI, WI and OH. All he has to do is keep the Dem states that HC won and add the rust belt states that lean Blue and went to Trump in 16.

Sucks though, Biden is more same ol', same ol'.

Not necessarily... North Carolina, Virginia and Minnesota are good primary wins that could pay dividends in November. Those wins may also evince some favorability for him in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Ohio.

During the primaries, you really want to keep an eye on candidates who can net solid wins in blue states but who also do well with more moderate voters in purple and even red states, like Texas. Moreover, Biden killed with black voters on Saturday and yesterday. Bernie has been struggling and hasn't seen significant improvement with that demographic since 2016. A lot of of those black voters are in red states, but if Biden's level of support among black voters carries over to purple states (which seems to be the case), that could be a plus for him in November.

[MaxFly]

We are witnessing Bernie being screwed over by the establishment in real time. Again.

If voters are considered the establishment, sure...

[qrich]

We are witnessing Bernie being screwed over by the establishment in real time. Again.

Acting as if Bernie isn't a part of the establishment.

People saying that he's going to fix things .... Hilarious

[MaxFly]

Bloomberg just dropped out and endorsed Biden.

https://i.ibb.co/j3xvNZW/bloomberg.jpg

[CelticBaller]

Good riddance. All he did was steal votes from Biden

[rufuspaul]

If voters are considered the establishment, sure...

California is not in yet. Don't count Bernie out just yet.

[CelticBaller]

California is not in yet. Don't count Bernie out just yet.

California was never a state Biden could win, what he needed was to steal delegates from Bernie and he did really well in it

[1987_Lakers]

Bloomberg just dropped out and endorsed Biden.

https://i.ibb.co/j3xvNZW/bloomberg.jpg

I know he has got the money, but can you imagine spending 500 million dollars on ads and not coming close to be the nomination? My goodness.

[TheMan]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477422-New-poll-shows-Bernie-Sanders-clear-favorite-to-win-the-Democratic-Nomination&p=13939602&viewfull=1#post13939602

Just the other day you were preaching about how Sanders can beat trump and he's the frontrunner and now you've reversed it to Biden? C'mon man...
Not at all, just saying that people who think Trump will trounce Biden are not centered on reality...the fact is that Trump remains unpopular to a majority of the electorate, Biden is not loathed even half of what Trump is. He won't lose the rust belt states like that moron HC did.

Sanders brings a chance for real change for the working class, Biden is more of the same corporate Democratic policies throwing crumbs at the middle class but I guess that's what the people want. Unlike Bernie Bros (I myself don't consider myself one), I'll support the Democratic candidate because Trump policies are dangerous to the environment and Ruth Bader Ginsburg will likely not last another 4 years.

It's called being pragmatic...and lol at anyone who still thinks Trump is a populist...go look up what populism means, a populist doesn't hand out tax breaks that overwhelmingly favor the rich nor does he try to cut social programs :facepalm

[MaxFly]

California is not in yet. Don't count Bernie out just yet.

Bernie's sure to make up the Super Tuesday deficit in California, but he will likely have a difficult time moving forward with Penn, Ohio, Florida, Georgia, etc...

This race is far from over, though. Biden will have to come correct if he wants to win outright.

[MaxFly]

I know he has got the money, but can you imagine spending 500 million dollars on ads and not coming close to be the nomination? My goodness.

This election season has been wild.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I know he has got the money, but can you imagine spending 500 million dollars on ads and not coming close to be the nomination? My goodness.


Definition of Charisma: a special power that some people have naturally that makes them able to influence other people and attract their attention and admiration.

Bottom Line: Bloomberg had zero charisma.

[Long Duck Dong]

Definition of Charisma: a special power that some people have naturally that makes them able to influence other people and attract their attention and admiration.

Bottom Line: Bloomberg had zero charisma.

Jimmy Carter won with very little charisma. So did Bush Sr, but he was riding Reagan's coattails

[Facepalm]

4 more years of Trump. And this time, I'm not going to be nice a vote for the Democratic loser. I'll just vote for Trump. First time ever I vote Republican.

The Establishment played it perfectly. Consolodate the conservative democrats by have Klobochar and Bootyjudge drop out and endorse Biden. Keep Warren in there to split up the Progressive vote.

I will be very entertained, as will everyone, to see Trump debate with Biden. It will be a massacre. Let's all watch and enjoy the democratic party lose yet again. Idiots.
Typical millennial. Instead of blaming others for last night's losses look at yourselves. You guys talk a lot of shit online but don't show up to vote. Sanders can't depend on Bernie Bros.

[RRR3]

I don’t think some of you realize how awful Biden is.

[rawimpact]

Typical millennial. Instead of blaming others for last night's losses look at yourselves. You guys talk a lot of shit online but don't show up to vote. Sanders can't depend on Bernie Bros.

Did you seriously just tell someone not to blame others and then proceed to blame him and his generation?

:facepalm

Edit: Why'd you delete the last comment calling me a bernie bro? You seem frustrated... may I suggest taking some you time instead of taking things personally?

[Facepalm]

Did you seriously just tell someone not to blame others and then proceed to blame him and his generation?

:facepalm

Did the lack of turnout from Bernie Bros contribute to his losses or not? Simple question. Keep in mind that Sanders did worse last night than he did in 2016 vs Clinton.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/04/super-tuesday-bernie-sanders-youth-votes-fell-short-compared-2016/4947795002/


WASHINGTON – Young voters cheer Bernie Sanders' anti-establishment message. They turn out in throngs at his rallies. And they form the core of his grassroots efforts to win the Democratic presidential nomination.

But their fiery passion did not translate into the robust turnout he needed on Super Tuesday to win a number of key states, notably in the South where a strong showing by Joe Biden has made the nomination contest a two-man race, especially now that former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has dropped out of the race and endorsed Biden.

Exit polls for several states Biden won, including Massachusetts, Texas and a number of southern states that helped catapult the former vice president into front-runner status, found that while more young voters went to the polls this election cycle, they did not show up at the rate they did in 2016.

In Virginia, for example, more than 1.3 million voters cast ballots compared to the roughly 800,000 four years ago. But exit polls on Super Tuesday showed that the share of young voters as a percentage of the entire electorate declined in the Old Dominion, diminishing their influence as a voting bloc.

[Draz]

It ain't over yet but whatever the voters decide they decide.

Also, young voters did not turn out for Sanders.

[Facepalm]

Did you seriously just tell someone not to blame others and then proceed to blame him and his generation?

:facepalm

Edit: Why'd you delete the last comment calling me a bernie bro? You seem frustrated... may I suggest taking some you time instead of taking things personally?

Cuz I thought I was replying to Rolando but was mistaken so I adjusted accordingly, and also decided to turn the unnecessary heat down a bit :cheers:

[CelticBaller]

I don’t think some of you realize how awful Biden is.

https://i.redd.it/o490p6209kk41.jpg

^^
RRR3 :roll:

[rufuspaul]

It ain't over yet but whatever the voters decide they decide.

Also, young voters did not turn out for Sanders.

Throughout history these races have rarely ever been decided by young voters. Kinda sad really.

Here's a question for those that think the DNC isn't manipulating this thing: Why is Warren still in the race? Answer: Because every vote for her is a vote not going to Bernie.

[CelticBaller]

Throughout history these races have rarely ever been decided by young voters. Kinda sad really.

Here's a question for those that think the DNC isn't manipulating this thing: Why is Warren still in the race? Answer: Because every vote for her is a vote not going to Bernie.

Mini mike took more votes from Biden than Warren did from Bernie lol.

Warren will likely drop out this week, so what’s your point?

[DoctorP]

Looks like the powers that be want an Obama sandwhich option instead of the Bernie Social Democrat revolution. Wild mother****er Trump may be able to win it if that's the case. Moderate Democrats are as effective as the Iowa caucas.

[DoctorP]

https://blueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/story/thumbnail/48913/3f2433c6-65b9-4692-8ad2-b9ea28d2616c.png

https://i.imgur.com/UxaMSeO.png

[CelticBaller]

Looks like the powers that be want an Obama sandwhich option instead of the Bernie Social Democrat revolution. Wild mother****er Trump may be able to win it if that's the case. Moderate Democrats are as effective as the Iowa caucas.
Lol hawker said it best, Bernie can’t even rile up voters in the DNC and he hopes to stand a change against trump?

Hilary was bad with black voters, Bernie is even worse

[Hawker]

Typical millennial. Instead of blaming others for last night's losses look at yourselves. You guys talk a lot of shit online but don't show up to vote. Sanders can't depend on Bernie Bros.

Isn’t Rolando gen x? He’s said he’s in his 50s.

[Facepalm]

Isn’t Rolando gen x? He’s said he’s in his 50s.

No idea. Never really noticed him before so just assumed he was from his posts in this thread. My bad if he's 50

[Hawker]

Lol hawker said it best, Bernie can’t even rule up voters in the DNC and he hopes to stand a change against trump?

Hilary was bad with black voters, Bernie is even worse

I even pointed out how misleading that “Medicare for all” poll was and got shouted down for it.

[DoctorP]

If Biden doesn't pick a progressive running mate, I could see a lot of progressives staying home while the main dem sheep vote against Trump. May not be enough to beat Trump.

[rufuspaul]

Mini mike took more votes from Biden than Warren did from Bernie lol.

Warren will likely drop out this week, so what’s your point?

My point is she is the only progressive left besides Bernie. Any vote she gets hurts him.


You know I can't recall any of the Dems on here being very enthusiastic about Creepy Joe until now.

[Lebron23]

Joe Kennedy III should be his Vice President

[DoctorP]

Trumps main problem is that guys like Clint Eastwood, historically Republican, don't want to vote for him anymore and may go to Biden. Because Trump has been an asshole.

[Facepalm]

If Biden doesn't pick a progressive running mate, I could see a lot of progressives staying home while the main dem sheep vote against Trump. May not be enough to beat Trump.

How would you guys feel about a Biden/Yang ticket?

[DoctorP]

My point is she is the only progressive left besides Bernie. Any vote she gets hurts him.


You know I can't recall any of the Dems on here being very enthusiastic about Creepy Joe until now.

Biden is the democrat GWBush, basically. An old pawn. The establishment, at this point, would be thrilled having either Trump or Biden over Bernie. Trump haters want that Obama sandwhich.

[brownmamba00]

Biden is a sellout corrupt politician. But I can see him getting more votes than what Hillary got in the last presidential elections. Liberals love Obama.

Although it's too early but there is no way Bernie is winning this. I thought the dnc made this clear 4 years ago.

[RRR3]

Would you like links as to why Biden is horrible, Celticballer?

[DoctorP]

How would you guys feel about a Biden/Yang ticket?

Meh. Without a progressive on the ticket it's just business as usual in DC.


Bidens a nicer guy than Trump, sure, but Trump gets shit done whereas the Dems... they are somewhat incompetent. Hence why Trump calls em the "do nothing Dems".

[FultzNationRISE]

How would you guys feel about a Biden/Yang ticket?


:roll:

Biden is a walking corpse. It’s a good bet he’d have to step down before even finishing a first term.

The DNC donors/establishment arent picking Yang as his running mate and putting him that close to the Presidency. Zero chance. Theyd rather lose the election outright.

They need a fake progressive like Warren. She’s probably the front runner right now as his runningmate I’m guessing. In fact they prob have an agreement already that if she stays in the race to split up Bernard’s vote, she can run alongside Sleepy in the general :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

:roll:

Biden is a walking corpse. It’s a good bet he’d have to step down before even finishing a first term.

The DNC donors/establishment arent picking Yang as his running mate. Zero chance. Theyd rather lose the election outright.

:lol just a complete nonsense take dude :lol

[CelticBaller]

How would you guys feel about a Biden/Yang ticket?

I wanted this since I started reading more in Yang. He’s the next generation on liberal politics

[CelticBaller]

Would you like links as to why Biden is horrible, Celticballer?

I can bring up a million more reasons as to why Bolshevik Bernie is horrible.

One of them being completely out of touch with the huge sector of the population that caused Hilary the election

[Facepalm]

I wanted this since I started reading more in Yang. He’s the next generation on liberal politics

Yea he's progressive but not insane like Bernie. He's not going to destroy wall street and has a realistic eye on our future problems (automation)

[FultzNationRISE]

Yea he's progressive but not insane like Bernie. He's not going to destroy wall street and has a realistic eye on our future problems (automation)

His solution to that is UBI, right?

[diamenz]

Bernie's sure to make up the Super Tuesday deficit in California, but he will likely have a difficult time moving forward with Penn, Ohio, Florida, Georgia, etc...

This race is far from over, though. Biden will have to come correct if he wants to win outright.

i doubt cali's end result will give bernie what he needs to move forward pragmatically. he needed a win similar to what he pulled off in nevada for that. like u said, florida and the remaining southern states like ga and ms r going to twist the knife and bernie doesn't have enough delegate-rich western states to make up for it. unless he somehow comes up big in michigan, it's not looking good for him

[diamenz]

How would you guys feel about a Biden/Yang ticket?

unless biden adopts ubi, it's not happening. yang has made that clear.

[brownmamba00]

Biden was a good friend of the Carter administration. Voted for the Iraq war. Played an active role on the war on drugs. Did a lot of dirty corrupt shit as a senator. The ukraine thing etc.

He also backed a lot of dubious criminal right wing leaders when he was obamas running mate.

Trump is bad but atleast with him you know it's all business.

[RRR3]

@Celticballer and others considering Biden over Bernie
https://activatenow.us/the-long-list-of-joe-bidens-terrible-record/

[Hawker]

It ain't over yet but whatever the voters decide they decide.

Also, young voters did not turn out for Sanders.


Young voters never turn out. Ever. They are unreliable.

[FultzNationRISE]

Young voters never turn out. Ever. They are unreliable.



Yet amazingly they all know exactly how the world works far better than everyone else :lebronamazed:

[diamenz]

Young voters never turn out. Ever. They are unreliable.

but they show up at rallies!

[CelticBaller]

@Celticballer and others considering Biden over Bernie
https://activatenow.us/the-long-list-of-joe-bidens-terrible-record/

Lmao one of the first things is him opposing Medicare for all, which most of the candidates do as well. Another is him shitting on the young voters who proved him right :oldlol: :facepalm

Bolshevik Bernie has a history of communism sympathizing and literally had a worse voter turnout than last election cycle, but please tell us how he’s a better candidate against trump

[Hawker]

@Celticballer and others considering Biden over Bernie
https://activatenow.us/the-long-list-of-joe-bidens-terrible-record/

Joe Biden is a big government liberal that sucks balls but right off the bat I can tell that article is BS.

Again, if medicare for all and new green deal have popular support, why can't Bernie get anymore than a third of the DEMOCRAT vote?

If he can't even get a third of the democrat vote, what makes you think those things have popular support amongst all americans?

[CelticBaller]

Bernies strategy:

Offer free stuff

Sympathize with communist

????

Profit

[DoctorP]

Joe Biden is a big government liberal that sucks balls but right off the bat I can tell that article is BS.

Again, if medicare for all and new green deal have popular support, why can't Bernie get anymore than a third of the DEMOCRAT vote?

If he can't even get a third of the democrat vote, what makes you think those things have popular support amongst all americans?

The Dems have their lowIQ candidate. thats all that matters.

[CelticBaller]

The Dems have their lowIQ candidate. thats all that matters.

The man that can’t get shit done in Congress is expected to beat trump or even pass laws as president lol

Bernie Bros melting down

[DoctorP]

The man that can’t get shit done in Congress is expected to beat trump or even pass laws as president lol

Bernie Bros melting down

oh, youre a Biden guy? :lol

please. we've seen all of this before 4 years ago.

Bernie disappointed me with his Tact. He has been campaigning so long he has lost some common sense. But going for the low IQ candidate? :lol ok, dude

Bernie and Warren represented progressive reform better than any other candidate. And it's over. Now it's just pageantry. The male Hillary.

[CelticBaller]

oh, youre a Biden guy? :lol

please. we've seen all of this before 4 years ago.

Bernie disappointed me with his Tact. He has been campaigning so long he has lost some common sense. But going for the low IQ candidate? :lol ok, dude
Lol Biden is the low IQ yet he’s the most successful in terms of being a politician out of the two?

People who can work with others are smart. Those who suck at that aren’t

[DoctorP]

Lol Biden is the low IQ yet he’s the most successful in terms of being a politician out of the two?

People who can work with others are smart. Those who suck at that aren’t

any other great genius quotes I should remember? :lol

[CelticBaller]

any other great genius quotes I should remember? :lol

Go stick with your joker gimmick. Your Bernie dick sucking is stale

[DoctorP]

Go stick with your joker gimmick. Your Bernie dick sucking is stale

oh did I hurt your feelings that you have to name call ohh boo hoo... :lol

genius.

[DoctorP]

The great thing about being an independent is watching the meltdowns and seeing the source of the bullshit. I'm still undecided who to vote for, if I vote at all. I may skip it again.

Trumps an asshole that not even Eastwood wants to vote for.

[CelticBaller]

Yes I am so mad that I have decided to make a weird gimmick account in which I will fully embrace my multiple personality disorder

I will name him bane

[DoctorP]

Yes I am so mad that I have decided to make a weird gimmick account in which I will fully embrace my multiple personality disorder

I will name him bane

another account?

[qrich]

@Celticballer and others considering Biden over Bernie
https://activatenow.us/the-long-list-of-joe-bidens-terrible-record/

No medicare for all ...awesome. No "green" new deal. Awesome

Pro death penalty....awesome

Stopping abortion...awesome

Those are all some good things Creepy Joe has done

[DoctorP]

No medicare for all ...awesome. No "green" new deal. Awesome

Pro death penalty....awesome

Stopping abortion...awesome

Those are all some good things Creepy Joe has done

such an inspiring candidate :lol

also voted for the Iraq war :lol

such a new voice! :lol

the "anyone but Trump" capitalist establishment candidate

[qrich]

such an inspiring candidate :lol

also voted for the Iraq war :lol

such a new voice! :lol

the "anyone but Trump" capitalist establishment candidate

It's better than Bernie tho...and who said about him being an inspiring candidate? He's slightly better shit, but still shit

[DoctorP]

It's better than Bernie tho

apparently that seems to be the case according to voters :lol

I wouldn't agree with that low IQ assessment, personally.

[CelticBaller]

Breaking news: most American like capitalism

[DoctorP]

Breaking news: most American like capitalism

capitalism was never threatened. it was never about capitalism vs communism. thats a lowIQ take and the progressives biggest failure to communicate this election season.

[Phong]

Why is Warren still in the race? Answer: Because every vote for her is a vote not going to Bernie. It's not that clear cut.

A recent survey indicated that 33% of Warren's supporters would pick Sanders as a second choice while 40% would choose between Biden, Buttigieg or Kobluchar. By staying in the race, she might well be preventing the moderate dems from getting more support.

If she was to drop out now, the delegates she has already won would be split between the remaining viable candidates. Then 33% of her supporters could possibly vote for Bernie and 40% for Biden in the remaining primaries.

By staying in the race, she could keep Biden from gaining more support and by convention time, she could release all her delegates with a Sanders endorsement and hope that they would all vote Sanders.

P.S.: suspending a campaign allows candidates to keep their delegates which can then be released during the convention; dropping out causes delegates won to be redistributed amongst the remaining viable candidates.

[CelticBaller]

capitalism was never threatened. it was never about capitalism vs communism. thats a lowIQ take and the progressives biggest failure to communicate this election season.

The green new deal literally reads off as a socialist manifesto :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

https://media.giphy.com/media/980AN9zvREgyk/giphy-downsized-large.gif
The sheep have made their impression felt.

[DoctorP]

The green new deal literally reads off as a socialist manifesto :oldlol:

jesus christ your trolling is sub-human. any evidence to support this bold claim? surely none. :lol

you're like a russian troll :lol

[CelticBaller]

jesus christ your trolling is sub-human. any evidence to support this bold claim? surely none. :lol

you're like a russian troll :lol


https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/436320-the-sham-of-green-new-deal-is-its-true-intent-advancing-socialism

Funny how bernie bros don't know half the shit he's proposing

[FultzNationRISE]

It's not that clear cut.

A recent survey indicated that 33% of Warren's supporters would pick Sanders as a second choice while 40% would choose between Biden, Buttigieg or Kobluchar. By staying in the race, she might well be preventing the moderate dems from getting more support.

If she was to drop out now, the delegates she has already won would be split between the remaining viable candidates. Then 33% of her supporters could possibly vote for Bernie and 40% for Biden in the remaining primaries.

By staying in the race, she could keep Biden from gaining more support and by convention time, she could release all her delegates with a Sanders endorsement and hope that they would all vote Sanders.

P.S.: suspending a campaign allows candidates to keep their delegates which can then be released during the convention; dropping out causes delegates won to be redistributed amongst the remaining viable candidates.


Interesting. I wouldnt have expected that many Warren voters to prefer Sleepy over Kooky. I guess it makes sense tho because she has essentially branded herself as a hybrid of the two.

[DoctorP]

Funny how bernie bros don't know half the shit he's proposing

this article quotes Mitch McConnell. Nuff said. Let's say Bernie passes at least 50% of the green new deal... it would be a surprise. But at least the groundwork is there for infrastructure reform. What's the alternative? Same OLD, SAME OLD

[DoctorP]

Republican trolls like CelticBaller have no new ideas. They want the status quo. They shall have it. Nothings changing so be happy, CelticBaller.

The progressives have lost. The mainstream has won. Enjoy the good times.

[TheMan]

Young voters never turn out. Ever. They are unreliable.

Unfortunate but true.

On the positive side for those that want Trump's ass out of the White House, Biden does well with old farts :lol

[rufuspaul]

If Biden wins the only difference we'll see is that he's not Trump. Other than that the billionaire oligarchs who control everything will still be pulling the strings. And we'll probably go back to letting China fvck us in the ass.

[ItsMillerTime]

If Biden wins the only difference we'll see is that he's not Trump. Other than that the billionaire oligarchs who control everything will still be pulling the strings. And we'll probably go back to letting China fvck us in the ass.

Pretty spot on.

Hate Bernie all you guys want, at least he's not bought and paid for like the rest of these puppets.

[Patrick Chewing]

And now there were two. Well, folks. The party that preaches inclusion and diversity and beats the drum of racism on a daily basis because they’re too obtuse to engage in real discussion, now has two old White guys to represent them and the party. What a time.

[rufuspaul]

And now there were two. Well, folks. The party that preaches inclusion and diversity and beats the drum of racism on a daily basis because they’re too obtuse to engage in real discussion, now has two old White guys to represent them and the party. What a time.

If she ends up endorsing Creepy Joe then you know the jig is up.

[rufuspaul]

From an article in Slate:


Having marveled at the diversity of that slate of candidates, I find it no less jaw-dropping that a primary process with that initial makeup is likely to yield Joe Biden as the person most likely to be the Democratic nominee.
Biden isn’t just a literal return to a Democratic status quo; he is, at this point in his life, its oldest and least competent version

[MaxFly]

Next Tuesday should be quite instructive with Warren out; Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Washington and North Dakota are coming up. Biden has a good shot of extending his comeback, though Sanders could certainly reassert himself.

Tulsi is still in... so there's that.

[CelticBaller]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/486042-republicans-rooting-for-sanders-see-biden-wins-as-setback


Russia and the Republicans want sanders to win the nominee oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Next Tuesday should be quite instructive with Warren out; Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Washington and North Dakota are coming up. Biden has a good shot of extending his comeback, though Sanders could certainly reassert himself.

Tulsi is still in... so there's that.


Tough past year or so for you, Max. Darker days ahead I'm sure. But you will endure.


And yes, Tulsi is a badass. I would vote for her in 2024 under two conditions:

1. Nikki Haley DOES NOT run in 2024.
2. She switches parties and runs as a Republican (Duh!)

[MaxFly]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/486042-republicans-rooting-for-sanders-see-biden-wins-as-setback


Russia and the Republicans want sanders to win the nominee oldlol:

This is well established, and perhaps even more so after South Carolina and Super Tuesday; they see him as an easier opponent than Biden. Sanders struggles with black voters, and his promise of energizing young voters to come out and start a revolution in their support for him hasn't quite panned out. He has consistently been weaker against Trump than Biden has in battle ground states, and his consistent antagonizing of the Democratic establishment hasn't won him any fans among down ballot candidates whose names will be on ballots this fall. Biden tends to connect better and garner more support among the voters the Dems will need to defeat Trump.

That said, expect Republicans to spin back up Ukraine.

[MaxFly]

Tough past year or so for you, Max. Darker days ahead I'm sure. But you will endure.


And yes, Tulsi is a badass. I would vote for her in 2024 under two conditions:

1. Nikki Haley DOES NOT run in 2024.
2. She switches parties and runs as a Republican (Duh!)

Not really all that tough. I expected Biden to get to the end as I believe he will have the best shot at defeating Trump. And here he is at the end. Republicans seem disappointed that Trump might have to face Biden.


“I think Bernie is the easiest to contrast with. Biden would be a little harder to contrast with,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.). “Truly, I think it’s better for us for Bernie to be the nominee in terms of down-ballot.”


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said last year he wanted to make the 2020 election a “referendum on socialism,” a plan that would be helped immensely if Democrats nominate Sanders, who advocates for “Medicare for All,” free college, student debt forgiveness and a wealth tax.

With Biden re-emerging as the favorite to win the Democratic nomination, GOP lawmakers acknowledge 2020 is likely to be more of a referendum on President Trump.


Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) called Biden the “safe pick” for Democrats. He said Sanders was “an easier target because he admits his socialism.”


GOP lawmakers thought they even had a chance of winning the House with Sanders as the Democratic nominee. Now that hope is fast fading, according to a GOP senator who requested anonymity to assess the presidential race.

“Anybody who wants the president to have an easier time with reelection, I think Sanders clearly helps that outcome,” said the Republican senator.

He said the speculation among Republicans on Capitol Hill on Wednesday morning was “if it’s not Sanders, Republicans probably don’t get the House back.”

“If it is Biden, that makes it a different outcome in the House,” the lawmaker added. “I don’t think the country is at all close to where Sanders is.”

[rawimpact]

I don't know how anyone could trust Biden. I mean, as a politician he may be one of the most corrupt -- spoiling his kids left and right without any consequences. He has abused his power in so many cases bailing hunter out of his bullshit. Now he wants to lead america when he failed his own son? Nope, i'm good. Stay home Joe, be a better mentor for your kids.

[Facepalm]

This is well established, and perhaps even more so after South Carolina and Super Tuesday; they see him as an easier opponent than Biden. Sanders struggles with black voters, and his promise of energizing young voters to come out and start a revolution in their support for him hasn't quite panned out. He has consistently been weaker against Trump than Biden has in battle ground states, and his consistent antagonizing of the Democratic establishment hasn't won him any fans among down ballot candidates whose names will be on ballots this fall. Biden tends to connect better and garner more support among the voters the Dems will need to defeat Trump.

That said, expect Republicans to spin back up Ukraine.

They've already started. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486054-trump-says-biden-ukraine-dealings-will-be-a-major-campaign-issue

[Patrick Chewing]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESSIQ5lWsAIyDOU.jpg

[CelticBaller]

I don't know how anyone could trust Biden. I mean, as a politician he may be one of the most corrupt -- spoiling his kids left and right without any consequences. He has abused his power in so many cases bailing hunter out of his bullshit. Now he wants to lead america when he failed his own son? Nope, i'm good. Stay home Joe, be a better mentor for your kids.

Where’s the proof?

Trump literally risked his presidency over a nothingburger.

[MaxFly]

I think there's a hope that some of those laughable smears stick and hurt Biden now and in the general. The problem is that I think people have seen past them. Republicans don't seem to realize that the Ukraine narrative will hurt Trump more than Biden.

[rufuspaul]

Of course Trump would rather run against Sanders. But I wouldn't count him out against Joe.

[rawimpact]

Where’s the proof?

Trump literally risked his presidency over a nothingburger.

What are you talking about? There are witness accounts of cocaine abuse with Hunter... even from the officer.

Biden failed as a father, he will fail as a president.

[DoctorP]

What are you talking about? There are witness accounts of cocaine abuse with Hunter... even from the officer.

Biden failed as a father, he will fail as a president.

:lol

[FultzNationRISE]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESSIQ5lWsAIyDOU.jpg


:roll:


lol’d out loud

[CelticBaller]

What are you talking about? There are witness accounts of cocaine abuse with Hunter... even from the officer.

Biden failed as a father, he will fail as a president.

Yawn

[bladefd]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/486042-republicans-rooting-for-sanders-see-biden-wins-as-setback


Russia and the Republicans want sanders to win the nominee oldlol:

No they don't. They are only saying it because Biden is in lead. If Bernie was in the lead, they would be saying they want Biden to be the nominee. It is to sow discord and nothing else

[FultzNationRISE]

No they don't. They are only saying it because Biden is in lead. If Bernie was in the lead, they would be saying they want Biden to be the nominee. It is to sow discord and nothing else


Trump genuinely likes to troll the establishment of either party.

He sincerely wants to see Bernie beat the forces that are trying to stop him. Of course he’ll then want to defeat Bernie himself. But there’s no question he appreciates Bernie as an outsider. That was evident even in the previous election.

[CeltsGarlic]

I think bernies opinion on fracking is beneficial for his campaign. A lot of folks who work there are already voting red, while he only gains environmental crowd to win dems.

[DoctorP]

I think bernies opinion on fracking is beneficial for his campaign. A lot of folks who work there are already voting red, while he only gains environmental crowd to win dems.

Bernie's getting old. I don't know why he's allowing himself to be sucked into the health care debate so much and getting sucked into the "communist box" I agree he should be focusing more on the environment. that's Trumps weakest position

[Stephonit]

Health care is a communist issue? Dumb narrative.

[DoctorP]

Health care is a communist issue? Dumb narrative.

dumb comprehension. next

[CelticBaller]

No they don't. They are only saying it because Biden is in lead. If Bernie was in the lead, they would be saying they want Biden to be the nominee. It is to sow discord and nothing else

Where were you? This narrative has been going on since Bernie was the front runner

Shit the Russia stuff came out after he won both NH and IA

[MaxFly]

No they don't. They are only saying it because Biden is in lead. If Bernie was in the lead, they would be saying they want Biden to be the nominee. It is to sow discord and nothing else

I've had a few discussions with Republicans. Trust me when I say that they desperately want Sanders to be on the ballot against Trump. They honestly believe Trump stands a better chance against Sanders. Moreover, they believe Sanders will hurt Democrats down ballot. They may not be correct, but that is what they believe. Specifically, they want the opportunity to talk about things like his plan to ban fracking in Ohio and Pennsylvania; an issue that will force Democrats in those states and elsewhere to distance themselves from him and his movement.

They are doubly emboldened because we haven't seen the massive turnout for Sanders that he has promised.

[MaxFly]

I think bernies opinion on fracking is beneficial for his campaign. A lot of folks who work there are already voting red, while he only gains environmental crowd to win dems.

Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado... it's never productive to talk about banning industries in a state that people are dependent on directly, and that local economies are dependent on. It wasn't smart when Hillary did it with coal, it's not smart now with fracking, natural gas and petroleum.

[DoctorP]

Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado... it's never productive to talk about banning industries in a state that people are dependent on directly, and that local economies are dependent on. It wasn't smart when Hillary did it with coal, it's not smart now with fracking, natural gas and petroleum.

there are specific movements going on led by people that want ZERO FRACKING and feel the fracking industry is not smart.

[MaxFly]

What are you talking about? There are witness accounts of cocaine abuse with Hunter... even from the officer.

Biden failed as a father, he will fail as a president.

Hunter Biden is 50 years old. I'm not sure we can really blame Joe Biden for his son's drug addiction.

[MaxFly]

there are specific movements going on led by people that want ZERO FRACKING and feel the fracking industry is not smart.

If Democrats want to maintain a good shot at winning Pennsylvania, Ohio and Colorado, it would be in their best interest to refrain from campaigning on a fracking ban right now. You can't really have a movement while losing the White House and perhaps even losing seats in the House.


The U.S. Chamber of Commerce commissioned a study that predicts job losses that would come with a fracking ban. "The first five years or so, you're going to lose 19 million jobs around the country," says Marty Durbin, president of the Chamber's Global Energy Institute.

Natural gas is killing the coal industry. Perhaps we should let the coal industry effectively die before openly campaigning on killing fracking.

[qrich]

Trust me about Hillary winning...Trust me about Russia...Trust me about internet dying with end of net neutrality...trust me about them wanting Sanders......trust me about this scandal being the end...etc etc ...

[DoctorP]

If Democrats want to maintain a good shot at winning Pennsylvania, Ohio and Colorado, it would be in their best interest to refrain from campaigning on a fracking ban right now. You can't really have a movement while losing the White House and perhaps even losing seats in the House.



Natural gas is killing the coal industry. Perhaps we should let the coal industry effectively die before openly campaigning on killing fracking.

Solar should be killing everything soon. WTF are these details on Heliogen?

[Hawker]

My prediction of Warren only appealing to upper middle class white guilt liberals ended up being 100% true.

As nice as it would be to beat Bernie and shut up that ideology once and for all, he scares me way more than Biden. Biden is simply an empty suit and caters to the individuals who get sucked in to caring about "perception" and "image" and "temperament." The technocrats and administrative state behind him will run the country.

Biden can't play any of the victimhood cards like Hillary could last time. Old white man who has sketchy sons just like Trump. No moral high grounds can be played from Biden supporters. Should be a good race.

[DoctorP]

My prediction of Warren only appealing to upper middle class white guilt liberals ended up being 100% true.

As nice as it would be to beat Bernie and shut up that ideology once and for all, he scares me way more than Biden. Biden is simply an empty suit and caters to the individuals who get sucked in to caring about "perception" and "image" and "temperament." The technocrats and administrative state behind him will run the country.

Biden can't play any of the victimhood cards like Hillary could last time. Old white man who has sketchy sons just like Trump. No moral high grounds can be played from Biden supporters. Should be a good race.

pure pageantry :lol

[Manny98]

I'm not too informed on American politics but Joe Biden is a f*cking pedophile there is literally videos online of him saying creepy ass shit to little kids and touching them

Why df are you retards voting for him :facepalm

[DoctorP]

I'm not too informed on American politics but Joe Biden is a f*cking pedophile there is literally videos online of him saying creepy ass shit to little kids and touching them

Why df are you retards voting for him :facepalm

:lol

[CelticBaller]

I'm not too informed on American politics but Joe Biden is a f*cking pedophile there is literally videos online of him saying creepy ass shit to little kids and touching them

Why df are you retards voting for him :facepalm

Worry about your own shithole government

[DoctorP]

Worry about your own shithole government

:lol

[DoctorP]

Why Do Such Elderly People Run America?
Sanders is too old. So is Biden. Trump too.

When Joe Biden climbed to the stage in California to celebrate his Super Tuesday comeback in the Democratic primary, three things happened in a matter of minutes. He basked in the thunderous applause from the crowd. He mistook his wife for his sister. And he delivered the sort of confusing, intermittently slurry, and occasionally indecipherable oration that has defined so many of his recent public appearances.

One might expect a typical opponent to seize on these verbal slips by questioning whether Biden, who is 77, is too old to hack it. But his rival Bernie Sanders, who has already suffered a heart attack during this campaign, is a year older. In January 2021, the three people most likely to be the next president—Biden, Sanders, and the incumbent, Donald Trump—would each be the oldest president to ever give an inaugural address in American history.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/why-are-these-people-so-freaking-old/607492/

[Manny98]

Worry about your own shithole government

Imagine wanting a pedophile to run your country :roll::roll:

Only in America

[diamenz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESSIQ5lWsAIyDOU.jpg

Joe: mixes up his sister and his wife. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacY29iMuUs)

The south: that’s our guy.

[CelticBaller]

Imagine wanting a pedophile to run your country :roll::roll:

Only in America

Which is still a better country than the shithole you live in

Oof, keep the smilies coming

[Manny98]

Which is still a better country than the shithole you live in

Oof, keep the smilies coming

How is England a shithole? Probably the greatest country on the planet tbh

[Manny98]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESSIQ5lWsAIyDOU.jpg
So he's a pedophile and a retard, yikes :roll:

[CelticBaller]

How is England a shithole? Probably the greatest country on the planet tbh

This dude is so ashamed to be living in the Philippines he makes shit up lmao

Regardless, UK is a shithole compared to America. There’s a reason why people leave UK to live here and UK constantly bends the knee to the US

[Manny98]

No one is leaving the UK to come to America lol

My friends all literally say they never want to visit America because all of the mass shootings + US have the worst healthcare service on the planet

You literally have city's in America that have crime rates comparable to third world countries :lol

[Facepalm]

Imagine wanting a pedophile to run your country :roll:

Only in America

We already have a pedophile running the country who also happens to want to fvck his own daughter.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/1b/8e/6c1b8e0b30f4cb0b55fc238d55c7c2e4.jpg


Some of these comments were made when Ivanka was 13 years old :wtf:

“Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?”


Stern: “By the way, your daughter…”

Trump: “ - she’s beautiful"

Stern: “Can I say this? A piece of ass.”

Trump: “Yeah.”


"I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."


“After I met Ivanka and praised her to her father, he said, ‘Yeah, she's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father . . .’”


According to several studio witnesses, Mr Trump replied that he kisses Ivanka “with every chance [he] gets”. The comment was apparently edited out of the final cut of the show when it went to air.


“Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?”


Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in a $100 million lawsuit, accusing them of having solicited sex acts from her at sex parties held at the Manhattan homes of Epstein and Trump back in 1994 (when Johnson was just 13 years old):

The first major scandal to hit the Trump campaign beside


Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Donald Trump walked into the dressing room while contestants — some as young as 15 — were changing.

"I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’ " said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.

Trump, she recalled, said something like, "Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before."

Three other women, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of getting engulfed in a media firestorm, also remembered Trump entering the dressing room while girls were changing. Two of them said the girls rushed to cover their bodies, with one calling it "shocking" and "creepy." The third said she was clothed and introduced herself to Trump.


Billado said she told Ivanka Trump (Trump’s daughter), about Donald Trump entering the room while the girls were changing their clothes. Billado remembers Ivanka answering, "Yeah, he does that."

Out of his own mouth:

Trump said:

Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting, I want to make sure that everything is good.

You know, the dresses. ‘Is everyone okay?’ You know, they're standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good.


But yeah, let's talk more about Biden lol

[DoctorP]

So he's a pedophile and a retard, yikes :roll:

:lol

[DoctorP]

https://i.redd.it/r0gziuxfsrk41.jpg

[bladefd]

Michigan governor endorsed Biden along with several newspaper. This is very much coordinated coming down from the top establishment heads. It is going to be very hard to stop the establishment in this country because they have tremendous power and wealth. Worst of all, they have a strong grasp over both parties, the mass media and wealth beyond comprehension.

I don't know how the people can take the country back, not just in 2020 but anytime in the future. Establishment has so much power, and they work together in a tight knit. Look at how quickly they shifted into gear after South Carolina. They completely came together very quickly. The same thing happened in 2016 on both the Republican side and Democrat side. It's happening again.

I keep thinking of Mr Robot. This is going almost exactly like Mr Robot, but we don't have an Elliot. Where the hell is the Anonymous group?

I hope Bernie is able to push for more changes in the DNC even if he loses here. That's all you can really do is incremental changes until the system can be beat. Bernie came closer in 2020 than 2016 due to the changes he was able to implement in DNC since 2016. Someone else will have to take up the fight in 2024, but with small changes. One such change would be to not call yourself a socialist. Don't use any ideological terms - just define your argument & views but refuse to use any ideological terms. FDR understood how dangerous ideological terms are because once you place yourself into a certain peg, all of the stereotypes & qualities (including bad qualities) end up being linked to you. It's best to distance yourself from ideologies. Let your ideas speak for you.

[DoctorP]

Michigan governor endorsed Biden along with several newspaper. This is very much coordinated coming down from the top establishment heads. It is going to be very hard to stop the establishment in this country because they have tremendous power and wealth. Worst of all, they have a strong grasp over both parties, the mass media and wealth beyond comprehension.

I don't know how the people can take the country back, not just in 2020 but anytime in the future. Establishment has so much power, and they work together in a tight knit. Look at how quickly they shifted into gear after South Carolina. They completely came together very quickly. The same thing happened in 2016 on both the Republican side and Democrat side. It's happening again.

I keep thinking of Mr Robot. This is going almost exactly like Mr Robot, but we don't have an Elliot. Where the hell is the Anonymous group?

I hope Bernie is able to push for more changes in the DNC even if he loses here. That's all you can really do is incremental changes until the system can be beat. Bernie came closer in 2020 than 2016 due to the changes he was able to implement in DNC since 2016. Someone else will have to take up the fight in 2024, but with small changes. One such change would be to not call yourself a socialist. Don't use any ideological terms - just define your argument & views but refuse to use any ideological terms. FDR understood how dangerous ideological terms are because once you place yourself into a certain peg, all of the stereotypes & qualities (including bad qualities) end up being linked to you. It's best to distance yourself from ideologies. Let your ideas speak for you.

yeah, well it's not completely over yet but yeah they will only push left so much and Bernards making them uncomfortable.

[DoctorP]

Hill Clinton about Bernie : "Nobody likes him"
Trump about Clinton: "Such a nasty woman"

BOOM what is the troof??

http://i.imgur.com/PbK65cU.gif

[CelticBaller]

Michigan governor endorsed Biden along with several newspaper. This is very much coordinated coming down from the top establishment heads. It is going to be very hard to stop the establishment in this country because they have tremendous power and wealth. Worst of all, they have a strong grasp over both parties, the mass media and wealth beyond comprehension.

I don't know how the people can take the country back, not just in 2020 but anytime in the future. Establishment has so much power, and they work together in a tight knit. Look at how quickly they shifted into gear after South Carolina. They completely came together very quickly. The same thing happened in 2016 on both the Republican side and Democrat side. It's happening again.

I keep thinking of Mr Robot. This is going almost exactly like Mr Robot, but we don't have an Elliot. Where the hell is the Anonymous group?

I hope Bernie is able to push for more changes in the DNC even if he loses here. That's all you can really do is incremental changes until the system can be beat. Bernie came closer in 2020 than 2016 due to the changes he was able to implement in DNC since 2016. Someone else will have to take up the fight in 2024, but with small changes. One such change would be to not call yourself a socialist. Don't use any ideological terms - just define your argument & views but refuse to use any ideological terms. FDR understood how dangerous ideological terms are because once you place yourself into a certain peg, all of the stereotypes & qualities (including bad qualities) end up being linked to you. It's best to distance yourself from ideologies. Let your ideas speak for you.

Lol we’ll be fine. You will go back on the DNC bandwagon just like you were before Bernie became the front runner

[1987_Lakers]

Michigan governor endorsed Biden along with several newspaper. This is very much coordinated coming down from the top establishment heads. It is going to be very hard to stop the establishment in this country because they have tremendous power and wealth. Worst of all, they have a strong grasp over both parties, the mass media and wealth beyond comprehension.

When it comes to 1st world countries, It's been like this for centuries.

[DoctorP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaFT6CK8AjU

[GimmeThat]

https://i.redd.it/r0gziuxfsrk41.jpg

problem here is, the banking industry had been taken down. so it's safer to say people were born in an unperfect condition.

profit isn't the problem, the lax policy against homeless people are.


there, speak a little Latin why don't you.

[MaxFly]

Michigan governor endorsed Biden along with several newspaper. This is very much coordinated coming down from the top establishment heads. It is going to be very hard to stop the establishment in this country because they have tremendous power and wealth. Worst of all, they have a strong grasp over both parties, the mass media and wealth beyond comprehension.

It doesn't help that Bernie has been antagonistic towards Democrats and the Democratic Party for some time. A softer tone and a more cordial and amicable approach, in spite of disagreements, would have served him better throughout his career, and would be helping him now. That sort of demeanor has trickled down to some of his supporters. They've been calling Pete Buttigieg a rat and Elizabeth Warren all sorts of names. They've been calling Obama a corporate, neoliberal shill. Bernie, to his credit, has been trying to put a stop to the divisiveness, but there's a great deal of inertia there... especially when some of the damage is being done by his surrogates. Party elders have told him about his approach before. He should have made the necessary tweaks much earlier.

Barney Frank:

“Bernie alienates his natural allies,” Frank said. “His holier-than-thou attitude—saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else—really undercuts his effectiveness.”


“I think when he first got here, Bernie underestimated the degree that Republicans had moved to the right … I get sick of people saying ‘a curse on both your houses,'” Frank said. “When you point out to them that you agree with them on most things, they’ll say, ‘Yeah, well, I hold my friends up to a higher standard.’ Well, OK, but remember that we’re your friends.”

[TheMan]

I don't know how anyone could trust Biden. I mean, as a politician he may be one of the most corrupt -- spoiling his kids left and right without any consequences. He has abused his power in so many cases bailing hunter out of his bullshit. Now he wants to lead america when he failed his own son? Nope, i'm good. Stay home Joe, be a better mentor for your kids.
This is rich coming from a Trump stan. :oldlol:

[rawimpact]

This is rich coming from a Trump stan. :oldlol:

Trump is guilty of this as well, but the difference is he was not a public servant using his influence for personal gain, he was a businessman. That said, tell me who else would find a job as a lobbyist after being kicked out of the Navy for failing a drug test?

[rufuspaul]

Trump, she recalled, said something like, "Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before."
:roll: Alpha AF

[MaxFly]

Trump is guilty of this as well, but the difference is he was not a public servant using his influence for personal gain, he was a businessman. That said, tell me who else would find a job as a lobbyist after being kicked out of the Navy for failing a drug test?

Quick rundown...

Trump is being investigated for falsifying information on loan documents and on his state and federal tax returns in regard to the value of properties he owns. The evidence currently points to the fact that he provided high valuations for properties in order to get favorable loans and provided low valuations for those same properties in those same years in order to minimize his tax burden. His personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, testified to such under oath.

Trump University, shut down by the government, was forced to pay back 20 million dollars to people it had swindled.

The Trump Foundation was forced to dissolve and distribute its remaining 2 million because it had been found to have illegally used its charity funds to benefit the 2016 Trump campaign.

Trump is currently fighting multiple lawsuits brought by women who have accused him of sexual assault. He has denied any sexual interaction with one particular woman and she is trying to force Trump to provide a DNA sample in order to run it against semen she alleges he left on her dress while assaulting her. Upwards of 20 women have accused him of sexual assault or sexual harassment.

Trump was caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women, apologized for his comments, and now denies it was him on tape.

Trump's inaugural committee is currently under investigation for working in concert with Trump properties to pay inflated rental rates of rooms and space at those Trump properties for inaugural festivities.

Trump's family has forced the Secret Service to spend more to rent rooms and space at his properties as they protect him and his family than they generally charges for those rooms and space.

Trump was just impeached for attempting to use his position as President to force a foreign power to investigate a political rival on completely bogus and unfounded allegations.

And we could certainly go into all of the slimy things he did to black tenants and that his family is still doing to black tenants (Jared Kushner), as well as the slimy things he did to construction companies, carpenters and the like in refusing to pay for finished and acceptable work.

I'm going to tell you guys one time: Democrats are desperate to have a discussion about corruption and corruption in government. Ask Susan Collins if she wants to have a discussion about corruption.

[TheMan]

Quick rundown...

Trump is being investigated for falsifying information on loan documents and on his state and federal tax returns in regard to the value of properties he owns. The evidence currently points to the fact that he provided high valuations for properties in order to get favorable loans and provided low valuations for those same properties in those same years in order to minimize his tax burden. His personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, testified to such under oath.

Trump University, shut down by the government, was forced to pay back 20 million dollars to people it had swindled.

The Trump Foundation was forced to dissolve and distribute its remaining 2 million because it had been found to have illegally used its charity funds to benefit the 2016 Trump campaign.

Trump is currently fighting multiple lawsuits brought by women who have accused him of sexual assault. He has denied any sexual interaction with one particular woman and she is trying to force Trump to provide a DNA sample in order to run it against semen she alleges he left on her dress while assaulting her. Upwards of 20 women have accused him of sexual assault or sexual harassment.

Trump was caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women, apologized for his comments, and now denies it was him on tape.

Trump's inaugural committee is currently under investigation for working in concert with Trump properties to pay inflated rental rates of rooms and space at those Trump properties for inaugural festivities.

Trump's family has forced the Secret Service to spend more to rent rooms and space at his properties as they protect him and his family than they generally charges for those rooms and space.

Trump was just impeached for attempting to use his position as President to force a foreign power to investigate a political rival on completely bogus and unfounded allegations.

And we could certainly go into all of the slimy things he did to black tenants and that his family is still doing to black tenants (Jared Kushner), as well as the slimy things he did to construction companies, carpenters and the like in refusing to pay for finished and acceptable work.

I'm going to tell you guys one time: Democrats are desperate to have a discussion about corruption and corruption in government. Ask Susan Collins if she wants to have a discussion about corruption.

:no:
Big difference is that Biden is allegedly corrupt and creepy while he was a government official, OTOH Trump was corrupt and creepy as a private citizen...according to rawimpact, one is to be condemned and the other one is perfectly acceptable :lol

[MaxFly]

:no:
Big difference is that Biden is allegedly corrupt and creepy while he was a government official, OTOH Trump was corrupt and creepy as a private citizen...according to rawimpact, one is to be condemned and the other one is perfectly acceptable :lol

Good point... though that's why I was careful to add the Secret Service stuff, the Trump Inaugural Committee Stuff, the impeachment stuff, and the structured porn star payoff stuff.

Oh, my bad... you were [/s]. :cheers:

[rawimpact]

:no:
Big difference is that Biden is allegedly corrupt and creepy while he was a government official, OTOH Trump was corrupt and creepy as a private citizen...according to rawimpact, one is to be condemned and the other one is perfectly acceptable :lol

When did I say it was acceptable? I'm saying you are increasing the mode of corruption of Biden by giving him more power and representation. Whereas Trump's corruption as a businessman really is just more scrutinized.

[Facepalm]

When did I say it was acceptable? I'm saying you are increasing the mode of corruption of Biden by giving him more power and representation. Whereas Trump's corruption as a businessman really is just more scrutinized.

You honestly think Trump isn't using his power of the Presidency to do slimy shit right now? In what other administration would a Jarred and Ivanka be anywhere near the white house and directing policy? Jarred is also about to make a windfall due to the corporate tax cuts. Charging the Secret Service more money to guard him while he vacations at his own resorts. Threatening and putting pressure on Judges and the DOJ to give him favorable outcomes. And on and on and on.

[rawimpact]

You honestly think Trump isn't using his power of the Presidency to do slimy shit right now? In what other administration would a Jarred and Ivanka be anywhere near the white house and directing policy? Jarred is also about to make a windfall due to the corporate tax cuts. Charging the Secret Service more money to guard him while he vacations at his own resorts. Threatening and putting pressure on Judges and the DOJ to give him favorable outcomes. And on and on and on.

They had an active role during his election and his historic campaign.... it's not like they just made a presence after he won. They hold senior advisor roles: ivaka on women issues and jared on strategic planning. Both sound fitting to me.

[Facepalm]

They had an active role during his election and his historic campaign.... it's not like they just made a presence after he won. They hold senior advisor roles: ivaka on women issues and jared on strategic planning. Both sound fitting to me.

So in other words...unqualified Nepotism.

Why exactly was Ivanka sitting in for Trump at G20? The video of her trying to mingle with, and summarily getting ignored by world leaders says it all. And Jared...what qualifications does he have...besides being Trump's Jewish family member...for being in charge of brokering an Israel/Palestine treaty?

[DoctorP]

So in other words...unqualified Nepotism.

Why exactly was Ivanka sitting in for Trump at G20? The video of her trying to mingle with, and summarily getting ignored by world leaders says it all. And Jared...what qualifications does he have...besides being Trump's Jewish family member...for being in charge of brokering an Israel/Palestine treaty?

:lol it's nepotism by definition but they are government jobs and the son and daughter then become govt workers

[Facepalm]

:lol it's nepotism by definition but they are government jobs and the son and daughter then become govt workers

If they want gov't jobs then Ivanka can deliver my mail :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

If they want gov't jobs then Ivanka can deliver my mail :oldlol:

lol. she's got the hook up, what can I say?

I would work with her too ;)

[MaxFly]

When did I say it was acceptable? I'm saying you are increasing the mode of corruption of Biden by giving him more power and representation. Whereas Trump's corruption as a businessman really is just more scrutinized.

Trump has engaged in quite a bit of government corruption as I pointed out in a previous post. He just got done being impeached for some of it.

[Patrick Chewing]

Quick rundown...

Trump is being investigated for falsifying information on loan documents and on his state and federal tax returns in regard to the value of properties he owns. The evidence currently points to the fact that he provided high valuations for properties in order to get favorable loans and provided low valuations for those same properties in those same years in order to minimize his tax burden. His personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, testified to such under oath.

Trump University, shut down by the government, was forced to pay back 20 million dollars to people it had swindled.

The Trump Foundation was forced to dissolve and distribute its remaining 2 million because it had been found to have illegally used its charity funds to benefit the 2016 Trump campaign.

Trump is currently fighting multiple lawsuits brought by women who have accused him of sexual assault. He has denied any sexual interaction with one particular woman and she is trying to force Trump to provide a DNA sample in order to run it against semen she alleges he left on her dress while assaulting her. Upwards of 20 women have accused him of sexual assault or sexual harassment.

Trump was caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women, apologized for his comments, and now denies it was him on tape.

Trump's inaugural committee is currently under investigation for working in concert with Trump properties to pay inflated rental rates of rooms and space at those Trump properties for inaugural festivities.

Trump's family has forced the Secret Service to spend more to rent rooms and space at his properties as they protect him and his family than they generally charges for those rooms and space.

Trump was just impeached for attempting to use his position as President to force a foreign power to investigate a political rival on completely bogus and unfounded allegations.

And we could certainly go into all of the slimy things he did to black tenants and that his family is still doing to black tenants (Jared Kushner), as well as the slimy things he did to construction companies, carpenters and the like in refusing to pay for finished and acceptable work.

I'm going to tell you guys one time: Democrats are desperate to have a discussion about corruption and corruption in government. Ask Susan Collins if she wants to have a discussion about corruption.


:sleeping:sleeping:sleeping

[RRR3]

Medicare for all would be good for the economy https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-medicare-all-would-likely-increase-wages-create-jobs-new-economic-analysis-shows-1490800?amp=1&utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

[Manny98]

Imagine voting for a child predator :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/Y98W62xg/3c11f61.gif

[Manny98]

https://youtu.be/DwXweiRjckI

:eek::eek:

[Manny98]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScarceMadeupImago-size_restricted.gif

[CelticBaller]

^ he mad

Worry about your own shithole politics

[iamgine]

Biden being the nominee is great news for Democrats. Cause Bernie could never defeat Trump but Biden might...if he get his seemingly deteriorating mind together. Obama endorsing him would be a huge boost.

[DoctorP]

Biden being the nominee is great news for Democrats. Cause Bernie could never defeat Trump but Biden might...if he get his seemingly deteriorating mind together. Obama endorsing him would be a huge boost.

a boost to his mind? trump will slaughter him :lol

[iamgine]

a boost to his mind? trump will slaughter him :lol

I hope so but I don't think it'd be easy if he gets Obama's endorsement and stop the dementia talk.

[DoctorP]

I hope so but I don't think it'd be easy if he gets Obama's endorsement and stop the dementia talk.

Biden better start preparing now :lol

he's gonna have to charm the public better than he did some of those kids

[Smoke117]

Seems the perfect candidate for RRR3...they can recover for each others have retarded stuttering mess ups.

[DoctorP]

On the phone call, Biden appeared to reference Sanders' new lines of attack, (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/politics/biden-vs-sanders/index.html) but also to the Vermont senator's more aggressive supporters, who have become known as "Bernie Bros."
"What we can't let happen is let this primary become a negative bloodbath," Biden said, according to a pool report.

"I know I'm going to get a lot of suggestions on how to respond to what I suspect will be an increasingly negative campaign that the Bernie Brothers will run. But we can't tear this party apart and reelect Trump. We have to keep our eyes on the ball, in my view."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/politics/biden-fundraising-bernie-brothers/index.html

[ZenMaster]

^ he mad

Worry about your own shithole politics

How do you feel about Biden being on video touching children like a guy who can't help himself? Rubbing his crotch on them and what not :(

[CelticBaller]

How do you feel about Biden being on video touching children like a guy who can't help himself? Rubbing his crotch on them and what not :(

He’s never been accused of anything. I mean there’s literal quotes of Trump being a weirdo about underage girls and his daughter. Unless proven to be true I just find them to be weird guys. I mean Biden is also super touchy with old guys as well

[ZenMaster]

He’s never been accused of anything. I mean there’s literal quotes of Trump being a weirdo about underage girls and his daughter. Unless proven to be true I just find them to be weird guys. I mean Biden is also super touchy with old guys as well

My man there's a video here in the thread, just a few posts up, showing it happening. Touching girls on their breasts, rubbing his crotch up against them etc. You just pretend like it doesn't exist?

It's not a competition of candidate vs candidate and if they are all "weirdos", but instead a matter of if Joe Biden is a pedophile. We know they exist in all layers of society and there are plenty out there who hasn't ever been caught or accused publicly by anyone. And here we have a video of a high profile politician, who is literally pulling kids towards him in a way where his dick is rubbing against them and he touches small girls on their breast as well - so the question isn't unwarranted.

[CelticBaller]

My man there's a video here in the thread, just a few posts up, showing it happening. Touching girls on their breasts, rubbing his crotch up against them etc. You just pretend like it doesn't exist?

It's not a competition of candidate vs candidate and if they are all "weirdos", but instead a matter of if Joe Biden is a pedophile. We know they exist in all layers of society and there are plenty out there who hasn't ever been caught or accused publicly by anyone. And here we have a video of a high profile politician, who is literally pulling kids towards him in a way where his dick is rubbing against them and he touches small girls on their breast as well - so the question isn't unwarranted.

That video is old news. So everything I’ve said I still stand by it. The dick rubbing is a reach btw

[CelticBaller]

Fall in line, not in love

[ZenMaster]

That video is old news. So everything I’ve said I still stand by it. The dick rubbing is a reach btw

But you haven't said anything about his behavior in the video? Instead you stated that he's never been accused and then tried to talk about Trump instead.

The video is simply documentation of a government event, at which Biden displayed very questionable behavior - why does it matter if it's one day or 3 years old?

At multiple times he's standing so close to some of these kids, that his crotch must be or be very close to touching them at around shoulder height.

[CelticBaller]

But you haven't said anything, except trying to talk about Trump instead?

The video is simply documentation of a government event, at which Biden displayed very questionable behavior - why does it matter if it's one day or 3 years old?

At multiple times he's standing so close to some of these kids, that his crotch must be or be very close to touching them at around shoulder height.

I mention trump because like him I do not care that much about his behavior. Like I’ve said I do not love Biden personally, but I damn sure prefer his economic policies over Sanders

I am not a far leftist. Purity test are meaningless

[ZenMaster]

I mention trump because like him I do not care that much about his behavior. Like I’ve said I do not love Biden personally, but I damn sure prefer his economic policies over Sanders

I am not a far leftist. Purity test are meaningless

I think our views on the whole deal is just so very different. To me, a person being pedophile or not is not a matter of whether or not I'd vote for that person politically, but whether they should be in jail or secure facility being kept away from society.
That's why the only thing I asked you was, what you thought about his behavior at that specific event.

[CelticBaller]

I think our views on the whole deal is just so very different. To me, a person being pedophile or not is not a matter of whether or not I'd vote for that person politically, but whether they should be in jail or secure facility being kept away from society.
That's why the only thing I asked you was, what you thought about his behavior at that specific event.

He’s weirdly touchy with everybody. If this was a pattern that was only with kids and he had been arrested for it I would be alarmed. One or two instances of doing it is not enough for me to care.

[ZenMaster]

He’s weirdly touchy with everybody. If this was a pattern that was only with kids and he had been arrested for it I would be alarmed. One or two instances of doing it is not enough for me to care.

Fair enough. What got me was a video of this event I saw quite a while ago, it had commentary from a body language expert. The woman in that video pointed out how his touchiness was very consistent when it came to small girls, controlling them physically by grabbing and arm an then maintaining physicality as long as possible by keeping them close.
The two parts where he leans in taking to someone else and his hand go to the breast of two separate small girls without him apparently noticing it any of the times, those are especially alarming because from a predatory pov those instances would be very opportunistic in terms of being able to feel up kid breasts while having plausible deniability. You also see those two girls physically moving away from him because they felt something was wrong when they could feel his fingers on their breast.

Anyways, I really hope it isn't the case and that he really just loses track of his hands due to focusing on someone else, I mean that sincerely.

[bladefd]

My man there's a video here in the thread, just a few posts up, showing it happening. Touching girls on their breasts, rubbing his crotch up against them etc. You just pretend like it doesn't exist?

It's not a competition of candidate vs candidate and if they are all "weirdos", but instead a matter of if Joe Biden is a pedophile. We know they exist in all layers of society and there are plenty out there who hasn't ever been caught or accused publicly by anyone. And here we have a video of a high profile politician, who is literally pulling kids towards him in a way where his dick is rubbing against them and he touches small girls on their breast as well - so the question isn't unwarranted.

How can you with a serious face say all that about Biden then turn around & ask folks to support Trump? How do you explain Trump walking into dressing rooms of little teenage girls walking around nude? Or talking dirty about his own teenage daughter Ivanka? Or the pu$$y grabbing stuff? Why don't you call out Trump as well in the same breath? I do question your sincerity.

[Cleverness]

Biden just endorsed Trump :facepalm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1236553198887976971

[diamenz]

Biden just endorsed Trump :facepalm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1236553198887976971

whaaa? i thought he was an obiden bama democrat (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBLavIE2c4)!

this is only the beginning, folkks. :facepalm

[rufuspaul]

Biden just endorsed Trump :facepalm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1236553198887976971


:lol On SNL they said he's a walking silver alert.

[Norcaliblunt]

Joe Biden voted for the war in Iraq. Lol.

[rawimpact]

Joe Biden voted for the war in Iraq. Lol.


Twice in the last five weeks, Joe Biden has claimed that despite voting to authorize military force against Iraq in 2002, he opposed the Iraq war from “the moment” it began. That’s not accurate, and Biden now says he misspoke.
Source: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/bidens-record-on-iraq-war/

He's such a hypocrite. He needs to own up to it...

[Norcaliblunt]

Source: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/bidens-record-on-iraq-war/

He's such a hypocrite. He needs to own up to it...

Everybody is hypocrites here. It’s kinda funny. People are like “don’t vote for Bernie his policies are unattainable and they would bankrupt the country and economy!!!” Okay, but that means you are going to support a guy who voted for the war in Iraq? Lol.

[~primetime~]

Everybody is hypocrites here. It’s kinda funny. People are like “don’t vote for Bernie his policies are unattainable and they would bankrupt the country and economy!!!” Okay, but that means you are going to support a guy who voted for the war in Iraq? Lol.
Yep

People want REAL change

But people are scared of real change

[Norcaliblunt]

While mainstream Democrats are scared of Trump beating up Bernie in the general election for the socialist stuff, I would be equally worried about Trump going hard on Biden for the Iraq War vote.

[Patrick Chewing]

Biden just endorsed Trump :facepalm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1236553198887976971

https://media.giphy.com/media/11uYyAmGgTWwGQ/giphy.gif

[rufuspaul]

While mainstream Democrats are scared of Trump beating up Bernie in the general election for the socialist stuff, I would be equally worried about Trump going hard on Biden for the Iraq War vote.

There's a whole bunch of shit Trump will go after Biden for. The guy has been a Washington insider politician his whole life. He's on the take from everyone.

[~primetime~]

That Biden video is causing an uproar...Trump retweeted it and Twitter has labeled it a "deep fake" and considered taking it down because theyre supposed to crack down on "fake news" this election.

The video itself had not been manipulated other than the fact it was cut off before Biden finished his sentence.

[CelticBaller]

Trump will literally tear anybody apart. He’s a troll that’s what he does

Bernie just gives him more ammo than anybody on actual issues people care

[DoctorP]

Trump will literally tear anybody apart. He’s a troll that’s what he does

Bernie just gives him more ammo than anybody on actual issues people care

Bernies a much better debater. He actually stands a chance against Trump. Bidens going to get Jeb'd. Hard. Bernie's dense as shit.

Celticballer, Tell me one thing you like about Biden other than he's "safe" and "more electable" lol

Biden voters are cucks. No two ways about it.

[CelticBaller]

Bernies a much better debater. He actually stands a chance against Trump. Bidens going to get Jeb'd. Hard. Bernie's dense as shit.

Celticballer, Tell me one thing you like about Biden other than he's "safe" and "more electable" lol

Biden voters are cucks. No two ways about it.

Better debater? Bernie also gaffes and has been caught breathing heavily in his debates. Trump will absolute torture him

What do I like about Biden over Bernie? Well..

1. He’s a neoliberal, not a socialist

2. Hes a successful congress politician, not a failure like Bernie

3. His policies are more fiscally responsible

Just 3 off my head.

[bladefd]

Bernies a much better debater. He actually stands a chance against Trump. Bidens going to get Jeb'd. Hard. Bernie's dense as shit.

Celticballer, Tell me one thing you like about Biden other than he's "safe" and "more electable" lol

Biden voters are cucks. No two ways about it.

Celticballer is actually a Trumpeter. He doesn't truly give a shi!t about Bernie or Biden.

[CelticBaller]

Lol I been on the Biden train since he announced his candidacy

Unlike you I don’t hop off and on bandwagons. You’ll be back on the bus once Bernie bros face the reality that the world doesn’t lean far left.

[DoctorP]

Celticballer is actually a Trumpeter. He doesn't truly give a shi!t about Bernie or Biden.

A lot of people that are pro-Trump are under the impression that Biden is the best choice because of Trump's nationalist, borderline fascist nature among other things.

I'm not surprised. It's a shifting middle trying to figure itself out. I'm just very unsure of Biden for anything other than a "let's unite by the safe old white guy that will do little to nothing instead of 4 more years of maybe-borderline fascism by the crazy reality-tv white guy that women and immigrants can't stand."

The green new deal is a great starting point for the USA to work it's issues out. I'm not saying everything would get passed but at least there are people working towards the future with new ideas. Still waiting to see what Biden has to say about the environment, can't wait until the next debate to see if Bernie can hose him.

Let the best politician win.

[DoctorP]

Yep

People want REAL change

But people are scared of real change

Apparently, people don't want change. They want pageantry and the same ol, same ol wrapped in a classy package.