Official MLB 2021 season thread...

[TheMan]

Hopefully we start getting back to normal soon, we need to have crowds in the stands...Go ChiSox Go!!!

[LoneyROY7]

Spoiler alert:

Dodgers win again.

[imdaman99]

Freaking Nats. Get covid right before the season starts :lol who knows when the Mets are gonna open now.

[Jasper]

watch out for my brew crew this year

[Patrick Chewing]

Spoiler alert:

Dodgers win again.

Cory "Babe Ruth" Seager for MVP

[Wally450]

Gonna try and actually pay attention to the Sox this year. Last year was a disaster. :oldlol:

[ShawkFactory]

Pretty encouraged by the Braves yesterday. Aaron Nola had his A+ stuff and Max Fried was like a C+ and we still found a way to keep it close and get it to extras.

Gonna win 95+

[Patrick Chewing]

Pretty encouraged by the Braves yesterday. Aaron Nola had his A+ stuff and Max Fried was like a C+ and we still found a way to keep it close and get it to extras.

Gonna win 95+


The Braves need new ownership. They were one win away from making it to the World Series last year, and they watched as the Dodgers loaded and up and got better in the offseason. Sorry, but adding Morton and Smyly is nothing compared to adding Bauer to that already loaded pitching staff. It was a miracle they signed Ozuna.

[ShawkFactory]

The Braves need new ownership. They were one win away from making it to the World Series last year, and they watched as the Dodgers loaded and up and got better in the offseason. Sorry, but adding Morton and Smyly is nothing compared to adding Bauer to that already loaded pitching staff. It was a miracle they signed Ozuna.

The Braves are never going to have the capacity to do what the Dodgers and Yankees do, short of Mark Cuban saying fvck it and deciding to buy the team. It's unfortunate but it is what it is.

Have to bank on Soroka coming back strong and Anderson turning into a stud. If so anything can happen in a 7 game series.

[LoneyROY7]

Cory "Babe Ruth" Seager for MVP

Patty...that's actually my favorite player.

:rockon:

[imdaman99]

Freaking Nats. Get covid right before the season starts :lol who knows when the Mets are gonna open now.

Man I was so right, this series is done. I have to wait till Monday to watch deGrominator :mad:

[imdaman99]

Braves 0-3

I'll take it.

Unless the Phillies turn out to be the real deal.

[ShawkFactory]

Braves 0-3

I'll take it.

Unless the Phillies turn out to be the real deal.

That was a frustrating ass series. All three of the Phillies starters efficiently tore us up. I don’t think any of them had more than 70 pitches through 6

[LoneyROY7]

Babe Ruth Seags off to a .667 start. :rockon:

BTW I feel like there's more interest in baseball this year than there has been in a while.

[Patrick Chewing]

Babe Seager is a FA after this season right? I want him on the Braves.

[LoneyROY7]

LA would be dumb as hell not to re-sign him, but if he left I could see him going to the Yankees.

[ShawkFactory]

LA would be dumb as hell not to re-sign him, but if he left I could see him going to the Yankees.

Yea he grew up a Yankee fan.

And no one but LAD or NYY will pay him they way he’ll want.

[EagleFang]

Astros sweep A's

8-1
9-5
9-2
9-1

Take that rat, Mike Fiers. Dude had no problem cheating with the Astros and benefitting from it to get a much bigger contract than he would have gotten if he hadn't cheated. Same with hypocrite Gerrit Cole.

[Wally450]

Red Sox :facepalm

[TheMan]

White Sox could've easily won 3 of 4 vs Angels but actually went 1-3 :( Get 'er done vs Seattle.

[imdaman99]

Babe Seager is a FA after this season right? I want him on the Braves.

Are you really a Braves fan living in NYC? :biggums: gonna cancel your tamahawk chop asap

[Derka]

Randy Arozarena made what will end up being one of the outfield plays of the year tonight in the Sox/Rays game.

[imdaman99]

Trash ass bullpen and garbage offense blows another degrom start.

So tired of the same old shit.

[72-10]

How I miss the days of Cool Papa Bell, he could really do well. I wonder how he'd fare with some of this snow we've been having.

[LoneyROY7]

Trash ass bullpen and garbage offense blows another degrom start.

So tired of the same old shit.

Yo DeGrom is crazy.

1st game of year and he's throwing 101 easy. :oldlol:

[Wally450]

Trash ass bullpen and garbage offense blows another degrom start.

So tired of the same old shit.

Why did the Mets only have him throw 6 inning of scoreless ball and 3 hits. Only 77 pitches? Seems like he could've easily stayed in longer.

[Patrick Chewing]

Are you really a Braves fan living in NYC? :biggums: gonna cancel your tamahawk chop asap

Yeah Braves have been my team since 90. Way before I moved up here.

[imdaman99]

Yo DeGrom is crazy.

1st game of year and he's throwing 101 easy. :oldlol:
Unless the radar gun was off, he hit 102 multiple times. The guy is a low-key guy too, unlike that btch Bauer :lol

Why did the Mets only have him throw 6 inning of scoreless ball and 3 hits. Only 77 pitches? Seems like he could've easily stayed in longer.
It was an organization decision. He hadn't pitched in 10 days because of the Nats ineptitude. Better not be an analytics thing (taking pitchers out when they are about to face batters for the 3rd time) since he was dealing, retired 9 in a row. deGrom went 2-3 as well with an RBI. Safe to say he's the best pitcher in baseball. I would have let him go another inning.

[EagleFang]

Angels fans were super proud of beating the Astros one game, throwing trash cans in celebration.

Less than 24 hours later the Astros break the tie with a 2 run homerun to end the game.

Angels can go suck on that.

[ShawkFactory]

Braves with a solid 0-4 start.

Not really worried though, as there has been some horrible luck. Lot of see-eye grounders. Realmuto had 3 RBIs on balls that couldn't have been hit harder than 60 MPH. The Nats scored 2 in the 2nd with 2 outs yesterday without anything being hit hard.

Meanwhile Acuna and Ozzie are hammering balls at people.

Need Fried to pitch like an ace today to stop the bleeding.

[Patrick Chewing]

Braves with a solid 0-4 start.

Not really worried though, as there has been some horrible luck. Lot of see-eye grounders. Realmuto had 3 RBIs on balls that couldn't have been hit harder than 60 MPH. The Nats scored 2 in the 2nd with 2 outs yesterday without anything being hit hard.

Meanwhile Acuna and Ozzie are hammering balls at people.

Need Fried to pitch like an ace today to stop the bleeding.

Fried and the Braves already getting rocked in the 1st inning. This team is about to be 0-5.

[ShawkFactory]

Fried and the Braves already getting rocked in the 1st inning. This team is about to be 0-5.

Same shit happening. After Turner's HR Fried struck out Soto but didn't get the call, and then gave up 3 hits that weren't hard hit at all. This game could easily be 2-1.

Braves threatening in the second. This game is far from over.

[Patrick Chewing]

Okay Braves bats coming alive. Braves up 6-4 now. Hope Fried calmed down.

[ShawkFactory]

Just saw a stat that the Braves hitters are 29th in the MLB in BABIP but 6th in exit velocity.

Their pitchers have the highest BABIP in baseball and the lowest exit velocity.

Knew I wasn't imagining this shit.

[LoneyROY7]

Angels fans were super proud of beating the Astros one game, throwing trash cans in celebration.

Less than 24 hours later the Astros break the tie with a 2 run homerun to end the game.

Angels can go suck on that.

You would be rooting for those cheaters. :oldlol:

[EagleFang]

You would be rooting for those cheaters. :oldlol:

You just going to ignore the Red Sox and Yankees both going to mlb that they are cheating with their apple watches? Dodgers also cheating.


I'm sorry the Astros cheated better, but it was made clear by other players that Astros weren't the only ones cheating.




Miguel Cabrera dismisses Astros sign-stealing scandal
https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/03/16/miguel-cabrera-aj-hinch-astros-sign-stealing-scandal





Red Sox won the title a year after and they cheated. Astros beat Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers cheaters head to head.

[EagleFang]

By the way.... I was an Astros fan back before they were forced to switch leagues by whoever bought the team.




I was Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Shane Reynolds fan.

[LoneyROY7]

2021 bringing MLB to ISH babyy.

[LoneyROY7]

Dodgers have the best team in the league with one of the worst closers smh.

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't feel so bad now about the Braves when you can win 2 games in one day. Soroka is injured again and will likely be out a couple of weeks. Kung Fu Panda coming through in the clutch!!

[TheMan]

By the way.... I was an Astros fan back before they were forced to switch leagues by whoever bought the team.




I was Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Shane Reynolds fan.
The White Sox sweep of the Astros in the 2005 World Series must've been tough on you.

[EagleFang]

The White Sox sweep of the Astros in the 2005 World Series must've been tough on you.

Yep, I couldn't stand Ozzie Guillen and with the Cubs in the Astros division I already had a dislike for Chicago in general. I really thought the Astros would win so the sweep was rough.

[imdaman99]

Mets steal one :pimp: Conforto strikes out but moves his elbow into the pitch... and the mets walk it off :lol

A win is a win, but that was a btch move.

[ShawkFactory]

Mets steal one :pimp: Conforto strikes out but moves his elbow into the pitch... and the mets walk it off :lol

A win is a win, but that was a btch move.

There will be a new rule tomorrow preventing this.

Edit: actually there already is. Ump called it a strike; batter should have been out.

[EagleFang]

Astros just smashed the A's for the 5th time this season 6-2. Was 6-0 until A's scored in 9th.

[LoneyROY7]

Astros just smashed the A's for the 5th time this season 6-2. Was 6-0 until A's scored in 9th.

Hopefully, your boys can make it to the Series this time, so we can give you a proper beating.

:kobe:

[BurningHammer]

Otani is a real deal. He will have to choose to do one thing soon but let's enjoy him being this century's Babe Ruth for now.

[Patrick Chewing]

I had money on the Angels last night and they pulled through. Trout is already beasting.

[TheMan]

Yep, I couldn't stand Ozzie Guillen and with the Cubs in the Astros division I already had a dislike for Chicago in general. I really thought the Astros would win so the sweep was rough.

It was a close series, the sweep was a bit deceiving.

Anyways, looks like the White Sox and Astros will be players this year too. How bout that kid though, Yermin Mercedes? Making up for our loss of Eloy Jimenez, hope he keeps up the hot bat.

[TheMan]

It was a close series, the sweep was a bit deceiving.

Anyways, looks like the White Sox and Astros will be players this year too. How bout that kid though, Yermin Mercedes? Making up for our loss of Eloy Jimenez, hope he keeps up the hot bat.

I wanted to add, can't blame you for your dislike of the Cubs, as a White Sox fan, no other fanbase is unlikable as the Cubs fans, they are even worse than the Yankee and Red Sox fan base. They are the bigger baseball team in Chicago for sure but their arrogance doesn't match the overall loser team they've always been, and they are fairweather and low IQ in baseball terms...they're gay too.

[ShawkFactory]

Bravos are rockin and rollin now.

People always talk about Soto and Tatis and somehow Acuna gets lost in that conversation. He’s the baddest man on the planet right now.

4-5 with a HR, 2 doubles, an infield single, and a gem in right. Probably a .4 WAR game.

[Patrick Chewing]

Braves win again and are now 4-4.

And DeGrom strikes out 14 batters and the Mets still lose the game cause they can't give the man any run support.

[ShawkFactory]

What is the point of replay? Phillies just steal a game from the Braves off of an absurd upholding of a call at home plate.

[Wally450]

Red Sox. :pimp:

[Patrick Chewing]

What is the point of replay? Phillies just steal a game from the Braves off of an absurd upholding of a call at home plate.

Such a horrible call.


At least Ronald Acuña is headed for Triple Crown territory. :banana:

[ShawkFactory]

Such a horrible call.


At least Ronald Acuña is headed for Triple Crown territory. :banana:

Dude just tripled and then scored on a sac fly to the 2nd baseman :lol

[LoneyROY7]

Twitter Trev earning that money last night.

Let's be real, everyone else is just playing for 2nd place. :pimp:

[Derka]

Red Sox about to win their 9th in a row. This is the first season since 2013 that I’ve made a conscious effort to watch (I’ve watched all but two games so far) and it looks like I picked a doozy. I wonder about the pitching long term and they leave a lot of guys on base...but this team looks damn good.

[ShawkFactory]

Red Sox about to win their 9th in a row. This is the first season since 2013 that I’ve made a conscious effort to watch (I’ve watched all but two games so far) and it looks like I picked a doozy. I wonder about the pitching long term and they leave a lot of guys on base...but this team looks damn good.

Me too. Unless a couple of those young guys really step up there's no way they have the horses to truly contend in the division.

[Patrick Chewing]

For F*ck's Sake

[LoneyROY7]

Another no-no tonight.

[Wally450]

Lost the perfect in what, the 8th?

[ShawkFactory]

For F*ck's Sake

Silver lining: we’re 4-8 and things are going hilariously bad. An easily attainable 14-12 stretch will put us in the exact same position we were in after 38 games in 2019 when we won 97.

[LoneyROY7]

Corey Seager just ALPHA'd the Padres.

Lmaooo.

[imdaman99]

Loney you really staying up till 3am watching Dodger games? That's impressive.

Still waiting on a Mets game, all these rainouts, double headers might be good for them. Only 7 inning games, with deGrom going in 1, could be lights out. Would annoy me if they lose 1-0 in Colorado.

[LoneyROY7]

Loney you really staying up till 3am watching Dodger games? That's impressive.

Still waiting on a Mets game, all these rainouts, double headers might be good for them. Only 7 inning games, with deGrom going in 1, could be lights out. Would annoy me if they lose 1-0 in Colorado.

I'm up late a lot, so it's not really staying up. :lol

If y'all don't get this man DeGrom some damn runs. He deserves about 20 today.

[ShawkFactory]

Degrom is so ridiculous. Fastball at the letters, change up down, slider away. He doesn’t really change what he does, but it’s tough to beat when he locates the fastball like that.

You basically have to guess and if you guess correctly it’s still overpowering.

[TheMan]

Lost the perfect in what, the 8th?

White Sox Carlos Rodon lost his perfect game bid on a hit by pitch in the 9th, ball grazed the top of the hitter's foot :facepalm ...still got the no hitter.

[TheMan]

Chance to take 3 of 4 from the BoSox and our ace, Giolito, gives up 6 in the first inning after being given a 1-0 lead :facepalm Still early but I can't see a ball club as good as the Red Sox losing a 5 run lead.

edit; 7-1 now...can we just forfeit so we don't burn our bullpen ahead of our series vs the Indians? :(

[Street Hunger]

"Cleveland's Shane Bieber is off to one of the best season starts of any pitcher in MLB history. Bieber became the first pitcher to strike out at least 10 batters in each of his first four starts of the season. The record dates back to when the mound was moved to its current distance in 1893, per Elias Sports. '" - Yahoo Sports

[Derka]

I like this BoSox team but I wish they’d show a bit more plate discipline. Too many swings at first pitches.

[imdaman99]

deGoat had to knock in the Mets 1st run in the 5th :oldlol: only 15 k's this time, but at least a complete game shutout :pimp:

[PistolPete]

Cole vs Bieber tonight.


Put $100 on the Indians (+105). Yankees are a strikeout machine.

[LoneyROY7]

Cole vs Bieber tonight.


Put $100 on the Indians (+105). Yankees are a strikeout machine.

:oldlol:

[TheMan]

Cole vs Bieber tonight.


Put $100 on the Indians (+105). Yankees are a strikeout machine.

https://media.tenor.com/images/a823e1b6d167ebba7ea97b828d085557/tenor.gif

In other news, prepare thy anus, the White Sox are heating up :pimp:

[LoneyROY7]

I just saw deGrom has a 0.31 ERA. :oldlol:

He might actually be the most talented pitcher ever.

[PistolPete]

:oldlol:

I need to only bet on the Super Bowl and that's it. This every day shit is bleeding me dry.

[Derka]

First time watching deGrom. Slider breaks at 93. Get right the f*ck out of here.

[imdaman99]

Tough loss for deGrom. I guess when he doesn't knock in a run, Mets won't score. Thinking this guy Lindor will be a bust, lol 10 year $340 million contract. It ain't my money but if the offense sucks, he's a damn big part of it.

[Wally450]

deGrom throws a gem and gets absolutely no run support. Rough.

[Charlie Sheen]

Markakis wasn't a superstar by any measure of WAR or OPS but he was a professional hitter. That lineup is missing his presence.

[ShawkFactory]

Markakis wasn't a superstar by any measure of WAR or OPS but he was a professional hitter. That lineup is missing his presence.

They’re 3rd in all of baseball in OBP and OPS. And Dansby and Ozuna haven’t even started hitting yet. The lineup is fine.

Pitching is the issue. It seems like every time we’re down and score runs to get back in it, the pitching immediately gives it back. Can’t sustain any momentum that way.

[Charlie Sheen]

They’re 3rd in all of baseball in OBP and OPS. And Dansby and Ozuna haven’t even started hitting yet. The lineup is fine.

Pitching is the issue. It seems like every time we’re down and score runs to get back in it, the pitching immediately gives it back. Can’t sustain any momentum that way.

The Atlanta lineup is top heavy. Those OPS and OBP numbers are being carried by Acuna and Freeman right now. It has also helped to get Pache's nothing bat out of the lineup for 2 weeks.

[ShawkFactory]

The Atlanta lineup is top heavy. Those OPS and OBP numbers are being carried by Acuna and Freeman right now. It has also helped to get Pache's nothing bat out of the lineup for 2 weeks.

That’s the thing though. The numbers are being borderline carried by 2 guys but the others, who are capable of more, haven’t started yet. Ozzie and Riley have begun to heat up and Ozuna and Dansby should be next.

Freddie and Acuña have already kind of cooled off and the offense is sustaining.

We’re not getting what we need out of Smyly and Morton. And obviously the injuries to Soroka, Fried, Martin, and Newcomb have been killer.

[ShawkFactory]

Really bad loss for the Braves.

We’ve now played 4 extra inning games and have lost every one of them without scoring a single run. 4 times with a runner on second and no outs. ZERO runs. 4 losses.

Un fvcking believable

[BurningHammer]

Really bad loss for the Braves.

We’ve now played 4 extra inning games and have lost every one of them without scoring a single run. 4 times with a runner on second and no outs. ZERO runs. 4 losses.

Un fvcking believable

Jays get Springer to play now. They should catch up Red Sox sooner or later.

[ShawkFactory]

Jays get Springer to play now. They should catch up Red Sox sooner or later.
Yea they’re a really good team. When Ryu is back that’s a legit 95 win squad i think.

Doesn’t excuse the Braves’ bullshit

[Derka]

Grats to Means on his no-no :cheers: That fastball-changeup duo was doing work.

[imdaman99]

Mets gave Lindor a 10 year $340 million contract without him even playing a game for them. I know everyone would be clowning them if they didn't sign him before the season and he was struggling (hmmmm he must be pressing because he hasn't gotten paid yet!). But what the hell are they supposed to do when this guy busts? 10 years of this bum? At least move him to the 8th-9th spot in the lineup.

[Patrick Chewing]

Angels just released Albert Pujols. End of an era? One last go around with the Cards?

[Patrick Chewing]

And yeah, 10 year contracts are bad in baseball. Just look at Pujols. There's a reason why the Angels are wasting Mike Trout's career. They can't afford to put good pieces around him.

[ShawkFactory]

Mets gave Lindor a 10 year $340 million contract without him even playing a game for them. I know everyone would be clowning them if they didn't sign him before the season and he was struggling (hmmmm he must be pressing because he hasn't gotten paid yet!). But what the hell are they supposed to do when this guy busts? 10 years of this bum? At least move him to the 8th-9th spot in the lineup.

It's been one month. Chill :lol

I understand that it's all doom and gloom at the moment but in July when the Mets win 10 of 12 and Lindor hits .500 during that stretch you won't even remember April.

[TheMan]

It's early in the season but the White Sox currently have the best record in baseball...without the services of two of their best players in Eloy Jimenez and Luis Robert...like I said, prepare thine anus

[Charlie Sheen]

It's early in the season but the White Sox currently have the best record in baseball...without the services of two of their best players in Eloy Jimenez and Luis Robert...like I said, prepare thine anus

Rodon has been an auto win every time he starts. Where the hell did this come from :lol

[TheMan]

Rodon has been an auto win every time he starts. Where the hell did this come from :lol

Lance Lynn too...dunno what's going on but our starting rotation could hang with anyone's, along with our offense. Andrew Vaughn and especially Yermin Mercedes have been a much needed shot in the arm after losing two of our best starters.

Our GM Hahn has made some great draft picks and trades but he fukked up big time tarding Fernando Tatis Jr...imagine the insane offense of this infield, Jose Abreu, last year's MVP at 1B, Tatis Jr. at 2B, Tim Anderson at SS and Yoan Moncada at 3B :eek:

[MMM]

It's early in the season but the White Sox currently have the best record in baseball...without the services of two of their best players in Eloy Jimenez and Luis Robert...like I said, prepare thine anus

The White Sox have been fun to watch but Larusa needs to go as he sucking some of the fun out of team

As a A's fan I always enjoy seeing the Angels struggle but as a baseball fan it is a shame they wasted Trouts career. 1 playoff series in 10 years is a joke

[MMM]

Lance Lynn too...dunno what's going on but our starting rotation could hang with anyone's, along with our offense. Andrew Vaughn and especially Yermin Mercedes have been a much needed shot in the arm after losing two of our best starters.

Our GM Hahn has made some great draft picks and trades but he fukked up big time tarding Fernando Tatis Jr...imagine the insane offense of this infield, Jose Abreu, last year's MVP at 1B, Tatis Jr. at 2B, Tim Anderson at SS and Yoan Moncada at 3B :eek:

Love watching Lance and that infield would have been oozing machismo. The batlips alone ��

[ShawkFactory]

Love watching Lance and that infield would have been oozing machismo. The batlips alone ��
The division is open but I’m not sure I trust that offense long term.

The injuries to Louie and Elroy are gonna hurt as the season progresses I think.

[Patrick Chewing]

Wake me up when the Braves stop sucking. A team that was one win away from the World Series last year.

[TheMan]

The division is open but I’m not sure I trust that offense long term.

The injuries to Louie and Elroy are gonna hurt as the season progresses I think.

I dunno man, Sox were without last year's MVP Jose Abreu last night (along with our slugger Jimenez and Robert) yet they were able to muster 16 runs vs the Twinkies...they aren't hitting the long ball (yet) but they are getting on base and driving them in.

[ShawkFactory]

I dunno man, Sox were without last year's MVP Jose Abreu last night (along with our slugger Jimenez and Robert) yet they were able to muster 16 runs vs the Twinkies...they aren't hitting the long ball (yet) but they are getting on base and driving them in.

Well anything can happen in one game. Or one series. Or even a month.

Over 6 months things get trickier. I like what I see from Madrigal though.

[imdaman99]

Wake me up when the Braves stop sucking. A team that was one win away from the World Series last year.

I don't even know how the Mets are beating them :lol half the team is injured and Lindor is under .200. deGrom is hurt yet Mets are winning (except against Tampa who swept them).

[Patrick Chewing]

The entire MLB has become unwatchable. The entire league average for hitting right is .236. This is the lowest it has EVER been.

Pathetic. Every batter is swinging for the fences and they whiffing at an alarming rate. Gone are the days of the slap hitter who would just try to make contact and put the ball in play.

[TheMan]

The entire MLB has become unwatchable. The entire league average for hitting right is .236. This is the lowest it has EVER been.

Pathetic. Every batter is swinging for the fences and they whiffing at an alarming rate. Gone are the days of the slap hitter who would just try to make contact and put the ball in play.

The White Sox are surprisingly amongst the lowest home run hitting teams yet have the best record in the AL and by far have the best run differential so go figure :lol

[Charlie Sheen]

It's been one month. Chill :lol

I understand that it's all doom and gloom at the moment but in July when the Mets win 10 of 12 and Lindor hits .500 during that stretch you won't even remember April.
I agree with your overall point here, but this was still funny :lol


Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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Francisco Lindor received what I have to say are his heaviest boos to date as a Met after grounding into a double play in the fourth. Lindor is in a 6-for-39 (.154) funk.

Earlier today, GM Zack Scott compared Lindor's slow start to that of Carlos Beltrán in 2005:

https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1396987147580854272

[Charlie Sheen]

That’s the thing though. The numbers are being borderline carried by 2 guys but the others, who are capable of more, haven’t started yet. Ozzie and Riley have begun to heat up and Ozuna and Dansby should be next.

Freddie and Acuña have already kind of cooled off and the offense is sustaining.

We’re not getting what we need out of Smyly and Morton. And obviously the injuries to Soroka, Fried, Martin, and Newcomb have been killer.

I'm glad I didn't make some stupid comment about Riley when I was criticizing the Braves offense.

Probably a little hard on the Braves because I'm bored with the Dodgers dominance over the NL.

[72-10]

Tigers clobbered the Yanks today 6-1 on just 7 hits without much help from Cabrera and every Yankee struckout, I thought that was odd. How often do the Tigers score 6 runs without a hit from Miguel?

[imdaman99]

I don't follow anyone but the Mets or NL East much... is Fernando Tatis Jr supposed to be one of the best in the game? I know he's a youngin, but the dude is clutch as hell even though he got some help on that foul popout drop :lol I guess Trout when he isn't hurt also gets hype, so does Ohtani but they both play on the same bad team.

[72-10]

What'd ya'll think of flamethrower Octavio Dotel?

[imdaman99]

Y'all hear about that Trevor Bauer incident with a woman? Get this guy out of baseball and locked up, real disturbing shit.

[Wally450]

Sox in the AL East lead and the Yankees 9 games back and continuing to implode. Life is good.

[Patrick Chewing]

Y'all hear about that Trevor Bauer incident with a woman? Get this guy out of baseball and locked up, real disturbing shit.

Couldn't have happened to a more worse person than Bauer. That guy thought he was hot shit and look at him now. Dodgers are f*cked.

[TheMan]

The White Sox are a MASH unit atm but still finding a way to get it done, 1st place baby :rockon:

[Charlie Sheen]

Y'all hear about that Trevor Bauer incident with a woman? Get this guy out of baseball and locked up, real disturbing shit.

Dodgers look real bad here. They basically washed their hand of any responsibility by saying it was up to MLB. Friedman and Doc needed to realize they cant put him out on the field while the investigation is going on.

[TheMan]

What'd ya'll think of flamethrower Octavio Dotel?

This is a weird question, Dotel was in the White Sox like a decade ago, hasn't he been retired for a while now?

[Patrick Chewing]

I think Dotel killed somebody or was killed himself.

[TheMan]

I think Dotel killed somebody or was killed himself.

That's weird because I don't see that with a Google search, only that he was involved in some shady business a few years back but was cleared of the more serious stuff, certainly nothing to do with murder or being murdered

[Patrick Chewing]

Marlins hit Acuña again last night and Jomboy is all over it :oldlol:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA7-B99g0JM

[Patrick Chewing]

That's weird because I don't see that with a Google search, only that he was involved in some shady business a few years back but was cleared of the more serious stuff, certainly nothing to do with murder or being murdered

Yeah I think I got the wrong Dominican :lol

[72-10]

I think Dotel killed somebody or was killed himself.

I'm unfamiliar with such a claim. Dude was money with the Astros, he looked like he'd be the ballot.

[imdaman99]

I'm unfamiliar with such a claim. Dude was money with the Astros, he looked like he'd be the ballot.

What's your obsession with average players? You make a living asking about them in the NBA :lol and now you ask about Dotel. Dotel was supposed to be great, I remember him coming up with the Mets. He couldn't cut it as a starter so he became a relief pitcher. Had good stuff, pretty sure he closed elsewhere. But never amounted to much more than a good relief pitcher. I remember him walking a lot of people. That's problematic for a reliever.

[72-10]

What's your obsession with average players? You make a living asking about them in the NBA :lol and now you ask about Dotel. Dotel was supposed to be great, I remember him coming up with the Mets. He couldn't cut it as a starter so he became a relief pitcher. Had good stuff, pretty sure he closed elsewhere. But never amounted to much more than a good relief pitcher. I remember him walking a lot of people. That's problematic for a reliever.

You're a ***. His Career ERA was 3.78. What the **** is average about that? His five seasons with the Astros are gold.

What other player did I even mention?

[Patrick Chewing]

Bauer suspended by MLB and Kershaw placed on DL with injury.


The Dodgers........DONE. San Fran and San Diego look way stronger anyway. I'm thinking it's either Boston or Houston coming out of the AL and it's either San Fran or San Diego coming out of the NL.

[TheMan]

Bauer suspended by MLB and Kershaw placed on DL with injury.


The Dodgers........DONE. San Fran and San Diego look way stronger anyway. I'm thinking it's either Boston or Houston coming out of the AL and it's either San Fran or San Diego coming out of the NL.

Good thing making correct predictions hasn't been your thing around here lately...White Sox vs Giants World Series :rockon:

[Patrick Chewing]

Good thing making correct predictions hasn't been your thing around here lately...White Sox vs Giants World Series :rockon:


I would prefer the White Sox make it out of the AL. I like parity in sports, but the Red Sox and Astros have the experience so I'm kind of leaning that way. We shall see. I'm still hoping the Braves turn things around, but it's not looking that way, unless they make several trades.

[ShawkFactory]

The Dodgers are not done. They've dealt with as many injuries as any team in the league so far and are still 20 games over.

They'll end up with at least 95 wins still and if they can get healthy for the playoffs are still the favorites.

[Charlie Sheen]

The only teams the Dodgers will play for the rest of July are the Rockies, Dbacks and Giants.

It's more likely the Dodgers take the division lead by August 1 than fall behind the Padres.

[Charlie Sheen]

Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia)
JD Martinez tells a group of fellow All Stars that Gerrit Cole ignored the Red Sox players who said hello to him on the bus https://t.co/AB7JQVtWU0
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https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1416520393016463363

Cole will probably get shit for this but I like it.

[Hey Yo]

Mets give up 9 runs in the 8th and 9th combined

Pirates win with a walk-off grand slam.

[Charlie Sheen]

Mets give up 9 runs in the 8th and 9th combined

Pirates win with a walk-off grand slam.

This just happened...


Jared Carrabis (@Jared_Carrabis)
The Mets are imploding in Pittsburgh. I wanna say I can’t believe it, but I can. https://t.co/zKCAmsYI43


Twitter•Today at 11:03 AM

https://twitter.com/Jared_Carrabis/status/1416820814679355393

[imdaman99]

Mets give up 9 runs in the 8th and 9th combined

Pirates win with a walk-off grand slam.

Mets bullpen implodes, especially their 2 best guys Lugo and Diaz. Lugo I'm good with but I can't stand Diaz. Dude is as fraud as it gets. When he's not well, he'll blow a 6 run lead (pretty sure he did that a couple years back against the Nats... with a walkoff grand slam given up... sound familiar? :lol )

This just happened...

https://twitter.com/Jared_Carrabis/status/1416820814679355393
Never underestimate how deflating a blown lead like Diaz pulled last night is... luckily the Mets are a resilient team and came back and won it with a 2 run HR in the 9th... blew it last night, stole it back today :lol

[Charlie Sheen]

Mets bullpen implodes, especially their 2 best guys Lugo and Diaz. Lugo I'm good with but I can't stand Diaz. Dude is as fraud as it gets. When he's not well, he'll blow a 6 run lead (pretty sure he did that a couple years back against the Nats... with a walkoff grand slam given up... sound familiar? :lol )

Never underestimate how deflating a blown lead like Diaz pulled last night is... luckily the Mets are a resilient team and came back and won it with a 2 run HR in the 9th... blew it last night, stole it back today :lol

Edlose tried to make it happen again last night :lol

[Derka]

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Good. This is the way its supposed to be between the Sox and those Bronx c*nts. He kicked our ass the other night but f*ck him anyway. :lol

[Wally450]

Good. This is the way its supposed to be between the Sox and those Bronx c*nts. He kicked our ass the other night but f*ck him anyway. :lol

This. I miss the Sox/Yankees rivalry of the mid 2000s. When they actually disliked each other. Now everyone wants to be friends.

[72-10]

Well, I think it's happened 508 times in MLB, but Miguel Cabrera tied the single-game ML mark for Sacrifice Flies tonight with two. I think it's unclear at this point, but it's rumored that Ruth might have had three once before the stat was officially recorded. Pretty rare a major league record gets tied these days. IIRC the New York teams have had three Sacrifice Flies in an Inning for each league, probably the most amazing record for the stat. edit: the record is in fact three in each league

Would be interesting to compile a list of un-intentional Walks with the Bases Loaded.

[imdaman99]

Would be interesting to compile a list of un-intentional Walks with the Bases Loaded.

Yeah, why don't you get started? It prob happens a few times a week in baseball. Why don't you start with the list of 10,000 times someone walked in a run :lol

Better to compile a list when it happened intentionally. Pretty sure it was once with Bonds, Showalter ordered it with a 2 run lead and won the game when the next guy lined out.

[Charlie Sheen]

This. I miss the Sox/Yankees rivalry of the mid 2000s. When they actually disliked each other. Now everyone wants to be friends.

Saturday and Sunday were wild. I watched them both. Eovaldi on Saturday was cruising to what looked like an easy win. Then German and the Yankees lost Sunday in the same way even more spectacularly.

[Charlie Sheen]

The only teams the Dodgers will play for the rest of July are the Rockies, Dbacks and Giants.

It's more likely the Dodgers take the division lead by August 1 than fall behind the Padres.

Dodgers have pitching problems. Doc can't keep pulling Urias after 80 pitches. They don't have Kershaw and Bauer in that rotation to eat innings anymore. Price, Gonsolin and TBA are lucky to pitch into the 5th. This bullpen will be shot way before the postseason.

[Charlie Sheen]

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1420433779089420291


Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
Starling Marte is headed to the A’s, Jesus Luzardo is going to Marlins, sources tell ESPN. A 1-for-1 deal in which Miami will cover the entirety of Marte’s remaining contract — more than $4 million. Marte is a free agent this winter. Luzardo isn’t one until after the 2027 season.
10:19 AM · Jul 28, 2021·Echofon

[Charlie Sheen]

Austin Riley has been out of this world for the last week. Still feels like Braves gotta be leaving NY disappointed with the results. Mets SP was TBA for half the series. Last night they had Edlose on the ropes but Conforto bailed him out.

[72-10]

Cabrera has 4 sacrifice flies in the past 9 days. Last time a player had more is more than 3 years ago, and one of those is influenced by Coors Field: https://stathead.com/tiny/oPjKs

Not sure if anyone's hit more than 5 in 9 days: https://stathead.com/tiny/RhNRY

[TheMan]

The White Sox made a couple of moves to shore up their bullpen, Ryan Tepera who was solid with the Cubs and more importantly, Craig Kimbrel who is one of the best closers in MLB history. Kimbrel and Hendriks in the late innings is filthy. Also acquired 2B Cesar Hernandez from the Indians (they'll always be the Indians to me) who is a gold glover and has some pop, 18 HRs. Sox have been struggling to put up some runs recently but we get our slugger Eloy Jimenez back in the lineup starting tomorrow and big bats Luis Robert and Yasmani Grandal should be joining the team within the next couple of weeks. One of the best starting rotations in baseball, coupled with an elite bullpen should make the White Sox a formidable World Series candidate...

[BurningHammer]

https://twitter.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1422542899401605124

Joey Bats has another epic bat flip years after THAT one.

[imdaman99]

Mets free falling. Back to reality. Even though it's a trash division, I have 0 faith they will win it. Thought they were a good team but with key pieces that are batting at or lower than .200, just waiting for them to give up the lead... to the stinkin phillies ugh. DeGrom c'mon bro you're the best pitcher but maybe cut down on throwing 100 mphs if it means you're gonna be injured for showcasing it.

[ShawkFactory]

Mets free falling. Back to reality. Even though it's a trash division, I have 0 faith they will win it. Thought they were a good team but with key pieces that are batting at or lower than .200, just waiting for them to give up the lead... to the stinkin phillies ugh. DeGrom c'mon bro you're the best pitcher but maybe cut down on throwing 100 mphs if it means you're gonna be injured for showcasing it.

Braves coming for that ass. We've been pretty decimated with injuries as well but I think the resolve is there. Freeman has proved he can carry and Riley looks like a true star.

Our FA power surge was pretty important. Don't need .240 hitters with no pop 6-8 in our lineup.

It's been a weird and extremely unlucky year. Not just with the injuries but with the general chance factors that come in to play in baseball. I heard a stat the other day on a Podcast that we are literally dead last in baseball in BA and OPS in "late and close situations". Which is innings 7-9 within 3 runs, I believe. Dansby Swanson in particular has like a .290 OPS in such situations..with like 30 or so at bats; dead last among qualifying players in Major League Baseball (don't ask me what the qualifications are). Small samples can't be taken seriously in baseball but he's always been the clutch guy.

Hopefully the tide turns because the last several years have been the opposite for us. Or maybe it's just random chance biting us in the ass. Either way I'm happy our division sucks

[Patrick Chewing]

Braves won 2 in a row and are at .500!!!!


Holy sheeeeeeeeiiiiit!

[72-10]

Not to flog a dead horse, but Cabrera's batting a Career .368 in games in which he reaches base. Cobb is the all-time leader with a Career .412 batting average. It's astonishing how well I-Rod did when he reached base. Through 2016, Cabrera batted .372, for some others Stan Musial and Ted Williams both batted .377, Gehrig .376, and Joe DiMaggio .364

[Jasper]

brewers Burns ties mlb record (10 straight strike outs in a win ovr the Cubs 10-0)
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32005823/milwaukee-brewers-corbin-burnes-ties-record-10-straight-strikeouts
:D

[Patrick Chewing]

Braves back in first place on August 11th. Wow.

[Charlie Sheen]

Braves back in first place on August 11th. Wow.

wait... you're telling me they still won after will smith destroyed another game? I just figured it was over at that point

[TheMan]

What a great game that Field Of Dreams game was! Go White Sox!!!

[BurningHammer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4bsd4LqqM

Absolutely aesthetic. :bowdown:

[imdaman99]

So that Field of Dreams game is a keeper. They gonna alternate the teams?

[TheMan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4bsd4LqqM

Absolutely aesthetic. :bowdown:

I got goosebumps and choked up a little, brings back memories with my own father, playing catch with him and taking me and my brother to old Comiskey Park, I'm a diehard White Sox fan because of him. My dad passed away a year after the Sox won in 2005, glad he was able to see that.

[Charlie Sheen]

So that Field of Dreams game is a keeper. They gonna alternate the teams?

Mets went from dead to red hot. Playing the Nats after they've given up, but still... Dodgers coming in for the weekend. Good luck :cheers:

[ShawkFactory]

Braves are hotter than hell. Gotta get busy with the Marlins and Orioles next.

After that it’s Yankees, giants, and Dodgers in order.

[Patrick Chewing]

wait... you're telling me they still won after will smith destroyed another game? I just figured it was over at that point

Yeah Will Smith is on thin ice with Richard Rodriguez ready to take the closer's role.

The problem is that the Braves bullpen is still unreliable, but the Braves bats have come alive in an epic way.

There is a very strong likelihood that the Braves will have 5 players with 30+ homeruns this season. That is unheard of.

[imdaman99]

Mets went from dead to red hot. Playing the Nats after they've given up, but still... Dodgers coming in for the weekend. Good luck :cheers:

Dodgers were 1-12 in extra inning games and a terrible record in 1 run games, Mets pretty good in both... of course Mets hitting in the clutch is shit and they lose 2 in extras. Got rekt last night. I hate watching this team because of how much they choke. Mets hung with them for 2 games and still got swept. F em. 3rd best team in the division. Talent is subpar. They got Carrasco and Rich Hill going tonight... old farts that suck. Of course the sky is falling mentality is a regular thing for mets fans :lol for good reason of course.

[TheMan]

https://youtu.be/_DzAA5tcy3w

A miracle no one has been killed by a projectile going 100 MPH plus to the head. Hope Bassitt comes back quickly but that looked no bueno last night.

[72-10]

Braves coming for that ass. We've been pretty decimated with injuries as well but I think the resolve is there. Freeman has proved he can carry and Riley looks like a true star.

Our FA power surge was pretty important. Don't need .240 hitters with no pop 6-8 in our lineup.

It's been a weird and extremely unlucky year. Not just with the injuries but with the general chance factors that come in to play in baseball. I heard a stat the other day on a Podcast that we are literally dead last in baseball in BA and OPS in "late and close situations". Which is innings 7-9 within 3 runs, I believe. Dansby Swanson in particular has like a .290 OPS in such situations..with like 30 or so at bats; dead last among qualifying players in Major League Baseball (don't ask me what the qualifications are). Small samples can't be taken seriously in baseball but he's always been the clutch guy.

Hopefully the tide turns because the last several years have been the opposite for us. Or maybe it's just random chance biting us in the ass. Either way I'm happy our division sucks

Due to all those breaks the Dodgers don't get, huh?

[Patrick Chewing]

Freeman hits for the Cycle last night. Saw that game from start to finish. He's coming for back-to-back MVP awards. People talking about Tatis Jr. or Max Muncy. Ain't happening.

[imdaman99]

Where is the Cabrera jabroni? Would have thought he would be all over him hitting his 500th.

[Govind Dass]

Okay Braves bats coming alive. https://boodmo.com/catalog/3569-sensors/

[BurningHammer]

Gosh, Padres vs Dodgers went to 16th innings, took almost 6 hours to finish.

[imdaman99]

So Lindor and Baez on the Mets have started boo'ing the fans. What kinda loser-type shit is that? Would have disciplined their asses and benched them for a week. Grow a spine and stop crying about being booed. Especially Lindor. So tired of that guy. Another 9 and half years of this guy :lol

[ShawkFactory]

So Lindor and Baez on the Mets have started boo'ing the fans. What kinda loser-type shit is that? Would have disciplined their asses and benched them for a week. Grow a spine and stop crying about being booed. Especially Lindor. So tired of that guy. Another 9 and half years of this guy :lol

While I agree for the most part, fans booing their own players in baseball seems really counterintuitive to me.

[Charlie Sheen]

That Braves lineup even without Acuna can put it on you.

All those smart people including myself :lol looking really foolish predicting the Giants would collapse.

[Charlie Sheen]

It's weird, I wasn't excited about the win last night. Being a Dodgers fan just isn't that fun these days. They are everything I used to hate about the Yankees with an overwhelming talent advantage. They just steamrolled the NL East on their way to first place.

[BurningHammer]

Jays are gotta sweep Yanks to take over one of wildcard spots. They just swept A's last weekend and got key players back (Springer, Pearson).

[BurningHammer]

Jays are gotta sweep Yanks to take over one of wildcard spots. They just swept A's last weekend and got key players back (Springer, Pearson).

And Jays did it. Only 1/2 game off the wildcard spot now. :rockon:

[ShawkFactory]

And Jays did it. Only 1/2 game off the wildcard spot now. :rockon:

Scary scary lineup

[Patrick Chewing]

That Braves game last night was frustrating as hell.


That entire bullpen needs to be blown up next season.

[imdaman99]

What the hell is wrong with the Yankees? Got smacked around by the Mets tonight. Since winning 13 in a row, they've looked dead.

[Patrick Chewing]

What the hell is wrong with the Yankees? Got smacked around by the Mets tonight. Since winning 13 in a row, they've looked dead.

Lack of pitching and situational hitting. Combine that with injuries where beasts like Stanton, Voit, and Judge can't play every day and you get this. And Odor was a horrible pick up. Hate that guy. Can't hit for shit.

But I'm a Braves fan so the fate of the Yanks is irrelevant to me. :lol

[Jasper]

Every time I look at the standing , I see no competition for the Brewers , third best record in the league ... sneaky ??
under the radar ???
They could be the Bucks !!

[imdaman99]

I guess ESPN finally said something right, that might have been Lindor's welcome to the Mets moment. It took 6 months :lol

He better be good next year, but I am good with him now. He shut up the Yankees.

[Patrick Chewing]

Holy shit...been arguing with these young kids and Ohtani fanboys on how Guerrero deserves the MVP over Ohtani. Guerrero leads Ohtani in every offensive category, and is .04 percentage points away from being in contention to win the Triple Crown. Meanwhile, Ohtani is batting in the .250's, but because he can pitch, he is more deserving of the MVP over Guerrero Jr.?? **** outta here.

[BurningHammer]

Holy shit...been arguing with these young kids and Ohtani fanboys on how Guerrero deserves the MVP over Ohtani. Guerrero leads Ohtani in every offensive category, and is .04 percentage points away from being in contention to win the Triple Crown. Meanwhile, Ohtani is batting in the .250's, but because he can pitch, he is more deserving of the MVP over Guerrero Jr.?? **** outta here.

If Blue Jays manages to win the AL East (long shot, but possible), Vlad Jr is 100% the AL MVP. But for now it is debatable and it is still leaning toward Shohei.

44 HRs, 4.7 offensive WAR (rare for DHs), and very good pitching stats will still make a case of Shohei.

[imdaman99]

I would much rather have Vlad Jr than Ohtani 100%. Sure Ohtani is hella marketable, a lot more than his teammate Trout...but imagine thinking someone winning the triple crown as well as leading his team to the playoffs is not enough just because the other guy can pitch 100mph. Not to mention Ohtani is not on a winning team but I know that means nothing for MVP as Trout would win every year on a bad team.

[ShawkFactory]

Holy shit...been arguing with these young kids and Ohtani fanboys on how Guerrero deserves the MVP over Ohtani. Guerrero leads Ohtani in every offensive category, and is .04 percentage points away from being in contention to win the Triple Crown. Meanwhile, Ohtani is batting in the .250's, but because he can pitch, he is more deserving of the MVP over Guerrero Jr.?? **** outta here.

Yes.

.972 OPS for a guy who starts every 6 days...and has a 3.36 ERA in the American league. Ohtani could not play another inning this year and he's still the shoe-in MVP.

It's not just that he can pitch. It's that he pitches well , and consistently. This is not some dude who throws 100 and comes in to either walk or strike people out in the 8th inning of a blowout to get the fans and media riled up.

He's the teams number one starter..

And he has 23 steals too. And is almost 2 wins more valuable if you like WAR.

[ShawkFactory]

I would much rather have Vlad Jr than Ohtani 100%. Sure Ohtani is hella marketable, a lot more than his teammate Trout...but imagine thinking someone winning the triple crown as well as leading his team to the playoffs is not enough just because the other guy can pitch 100mph. Not to mention Ohtani is not on a winning team but I know that means nothing for MVP as Trout would win every year on a bad team.

Why? Lets assume Ohtani can even remotely keep up what he's doing: Ordinally you go out and pay for an impact power hitter. Then you go out and pay for a #1-2 starter.

This dude is literally both. Not only is that crazy in theory..but you only have to pay one guy to do two important jobs.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yes.

.972 OPS for a guy who starts every 6 days...and has a 3.36 ERA in the American league. Ohtani could not play another inning this year and he's still the shoe-in MVP.

It's not just that he can pitch. It's that he pitches well , and consistently. This is not some dude who throws 100 and comes in to either walk or strike people out in the 8th inning of a blowout to get the fans and media riled up.

He's the teams number one starter..

And he has 23 steals too. And is almost 2 wins more valuable if you like WAR.

:roll:

You people are solely basing this on his ability to pitch. I'm sure if Vlad wanted to pitch, he could pitch. Overlooking Vlad's stats and how superior they are to Ohtani's, the only argument you guys are making is..."well, he can pitch too". That's not gonna cut it.

[ShawkFactory]

:roll:

You people are solely basing this on his ability to pitch. I'm sure if Vlad wanted to pitch, he could pitch. Overlooking Vlad's stats and how superior they are to Ohtani's, the only argument you guys are making is..."well, he can pitch too". That's not gonna cut it.

So is your argument that pitching is easy?

Vladdy, a guy who can barely play left field, could just go out and be a #1 starter if he wanted to? While being just as effective offensively?

Are you listening to yourself...

Being a starting pitcher (much less a frontline one) is not like defense in basketball :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

So is your argument that pitching is easy?

Vladdy, a guy who can barely play left field, could just go out and be a #1 starter if he wanted to? While being just as effective offensively?

Are you listening to yourself...

Being a starting pitcher (much less a frontline one) is not like defense in basketball :lol

I'm not saying that pitching is easy. You're moving the goals posts, so I'll reiterate again for those in the back of the class. I'm saying that you're disqualifying Vlad's numbers, solely based on the fact that Ohtani can pitch. You're telling us that because Ohtani can pitch and pitch well, that this automatically makes him the favorite to win MVP despite him having inferior batting numbers.

I would argue that if Ohtani's batting numbers were similar to or if not better then Vlad's, then you have a legitimate case to say Ohtani is the best player in the league. But right now, with his abysmal average, and the fact that Vlad has surpassed him in Homeruns, RBI's, XBH's, Slugging, OBP, OPS, and leads the league in those aforementioned categories, how in the hell can one make the argument that Ohtani is the MVP this year??

Oh, he also has 70 less strikeouts while even having 63 more AB's than Ohtani! The case is closed, friend. Vlad Guerrero Jr. is the AL MVP.

[ShawkFactory]

I'm not saying that pitching is easy. You're moving the goals posts, so I'll reiterate again for those in the back of the class. I'm saying that you're disqualifying Vlad's numbers, solely based on the fact that Ohtani can pitch. You're telling us that because Ohtani can pitch and pitch well, that this automatically makes him the favorite to win MVP despite him having inferior batting numbers.

I would argue that if Ohtani's batting numbers were similar to or if not better then Vlad's, then you have a legitimate case to say Ohtani is the best player in the league. But right now, with his abysmal average, and the fact that Vlad has surpassed him in Homeruns, RBI's, XBH's, Slugging, OBP, OPS, and leads the league in those aforementioned categories, how in the hell can one make the argument that Ohtani is the MVP this year??

Oh, he also has 70 less strikeouts while even having 63 more AB's than Ohtani! The case is closed, friend. Vlad Guerrero Jr. is the AL MVP.

That's not even REMOTELY what's happening. That fvck are you even talking about :lol

Why do you keep talking about average? For starters, .260 is not abysmal by any stretch. Second, Ohtani is 5th in major league baseball in OPS. FIFTH. .965. That's elite...

Guerrero has been better by 46 OPS points so far. That's better, but not like crazy better or anything...

He's having an excellent year at the plate. And he's having an excellent year on the mound. As one man he's doing two jobs that franchises ordinarily pay a LOT of money for two separate guys to do. An elite hitter and a legitimate #1 starter..who also happens to be 8th in all of baseball in stolen bases. How is that not MVP? Honestly..how is this even a discussion :lol

Right now Ohtani's odds are sitting at -5000 for MVP. Guerrero is +1400. He's going to win the award and it'll be close to unanimous.


I'm not saying that pitching is easy. You're moving the goals posts

Also you:


I'm sure if Vlad wanted to pitch, he could pitch

Sure seems like you're the one disqualifying things :confusedshrug:

[Patrick Chewing]

Poor Shawk still doesn't get it. He's an Ohtani fanboy, that's all that we can conclude. How long have you been watching baseball? Not too many MVP's with an average in the .250's or .260's.


So you're saying that Ohtani is having an excellent year at the plate....that's fine. He is. Great. Well guess what, Guerrero Jr. is having an EVEN BETTER year than Ohtani at the plate.


And then you ramble a bunch of Ohtani stats to prove that he's a great hitter and that he deserves the MVP, but again, you're failing to acknowledge that Guerrero Jr. IS BETTER than Ohtani in all those stats.

So you're willing to give the MVP award to an inferior hitter just because he can pitch. That's like the only logical conclusion one can come to, you're just too afraid to admit it.


I'll throw it back to you and ask you, honestly, how is this even a discussion?? :lol

[ShawkFactory]

I've been watching and playing baseball since I popped out dude.

MVP = Most Valuable Player. Guerrero is a bit better at the plate. A bit. I've already said this. Ohtani does 2 things at an elite level though. He's WAY better at pitching than Guerrero is. I don't know why you're just completely ignoring a huge part of the game in this discussion.

Example? For simplicity lets say there are two positions at a warehouse, fork lift operator and shipping associate. Fred is a GREAT forklift operator..the best. He can move 100 crates a day (I don't know what the fvck they do). More than pretty much anyone. However, he doesn't do any sort of packing. In fact, no one in the company is capable of effectively crossing roles. So this isn't a knock on Fred.

But then John gets hired. He is also very good as a fork lift operator, although not quite to the level of Fred. He can move 93 crates a day. However, on top of doing this he can also package and ship 90 items a day, a very good number for a shipping associate.

Who is more valuable employee to the company?

Ohtani is one man getting paid to do the job of two men. That is literally the definition of value. I'm not even remotely a fanboy of his. The only thing I really give a shit about is the Braves.

I can just call a spade a spade. You seem to be in denial.

[Patrick Chewing]

I like how you say he's "a bit" better at the plate :lol. The numbers would say otherwise. I'd totally put my money on Vlad winning it. We shall see.


Bottom line, and this is where I'll leave it: Ohtani's pitching numbers aren't enough to make up for the difference in offense when matched up against Vlad Jr. Like I said, if Ohtani was closer to Vlad in those numbers (he doesn't even have to be leading), then I think it's Ohtani who deserves it. But since the All-Star break, Ohtani has tailed off....a bit.



Better question would be: Who's the NL MVP??


As of right now, I'm giving it to Harper. My top 3 though would be Harper, Soto, and Tatis.


Unless Freeman can spike his Average and his RBI's a bit, then I don't think Freeman or Riley are in the discussion.

[ShawkFactory]

I like how you say he's "a bit" better at the plate :lol. The numbers would say otherwise. I'd totally put my money on Vlad winning it. We shall see.


Bottom line, and this is where I'll leave it: Ohtani's pitching numbers aren't enough to make up for the difference in offense when matched up against Vlad Jr. Like I said, if Ohtani was closer to Vlad in those numbers (he doesn't even have to be leading), then I think it's Ohtani who deserves it. But since the All-Star break, Ohtani has tailed off....a bit.



Better question would be: Who's the NL MVP??


As of right now, I'm giving it to Harper. My top 3 though would be Harper, Soto, and Tatis.


Unless Freeman can spike his Average and his RBI's a bit, then I don't think Freeman or Riley are in the discussion.

You'd be losing your money :lol

As for the NL, if the Padres play well down the stretch and secure a playoff spot and Tatis plays well then he'll win it. If not then yea it'll probably be Harper.

[Patrick Chewing]

Hey Ohtani fanboy, where can I bet on MVP odds? I use Bovada mostly and I don't see anywhere where I can bet on MVP odds.

[ShawkFactory]

Hey Ohtani fanboy, where can I bet on MVP odds? I use Bovada mostly and I don't see anywhere where I can bet on MVP odds.

Not finding one either.

As far as listing, I'm not seeing his odds at less than -5000. One has it at -7000.

Facts =/= fanboy my baseball son.

[Patrick Chewing]

Not finding one either.

As far as listing, I'm not seeing his odds at less than -5000. One has it at -7000.

Facts =/= fanboy my baseball son.

Where are you seeing these odds??

[BurningHammer]

Not finding one either.

As far as listing, I'm not seeing his odds at less than -5000. One has it at -7000.

Facts =/= fanboy my baseball son.

Shohei's odds have been slightly dropping since Jays' playoff push though.

https://c.tenor.com/YctMUeniWX8AAAAC/dumb-and-dumber-chance.gif

[ShawkFactory]

Shohei's odds have been slightly dropping since Jays' playoff push though.

https://c.tenor.com/YctMUeniWX8AAAAC/dumb-and-dumber-chance.gif

The jays would have to make the playoffs with Guerrero blistering the entire rest of the way. AND Shohei would have to suck. If that happens then that would make it relatively close

[BurningHammer]

The jays would have to make the playoffs with Guerrero blistering the entire rest of the way. AND Shohei would have to suck. If that happens then that would make it relatively close

Vlad could reach 50 HRs sooner or later and that might make another MVP point too. But the AL wildcard playoff race will be thrilling. Jays, Yanks and Red Sox are at virtual tie right now. Yankees still have to face both Red Sox, Jays and Rays while both Red Sox and Jays will have relatively easier schedules for the rest of the month.

Shohei is just on cruise control since Angels will be out of the playoff yet again.

Not sure if competitiveness or lack thereof will help either of those two but we will see.

[ShawkFactory]

Where are you seeing these odds??

Odds shark, draft kings, etc

[BurningHammer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGp2r2NZEto

:roll:

[ShawkFactory]

Just when we thought Shohei was going to be shelved as a pitcher for the year he goes out and throws 8 innings with 10 punches. Damn.

That was MVP acceptance speech.

[TheMan]

Just when we thought Shohei was going to be shelved as a pitcher for the year he goes out and throws 8 innings with 10 punches. Damn.

That was MVP acceptance speech.

Yep, Chewing is a moron, Othani got the MVP on lockdown, we haven't seen anything like him in our lifetime.

[Patrick Chewing]

So what you guys are saying is that if Ohtani decides to pitch for the next 10 years, that he's the MVP for the next 10 years, simply because he is also pitching as opposed to only hitting??

[ShawkFactory]

So what you guys are saying is that if Ohtani decides to pitch for the next 10 years, that he's the MVP for the next 10 years, simply because he is also pitching as opposed to only hitting??

Is he going to be hitting 45 bombs and OPSing .950 while pitching for those 10 years? If so, yes.

I doubt it plays out like that though so you're safe.

[Patrick Chewing]

Is he going to be hitting 45 bombs and OPSing .950 while pitching for those 10 years? If so, yes.

I doubt it plays out like that though so you're safe.


Even when there is another hitter that hits more bombs and has a higher OPS?? :lol


You're not making the case for Ohtani here.

[ShawkFactory]

Even when there is another hitter that hits more bombs and has a higher OPS?? :lol


You're not making the case for Ohtani here.

Yea because (and we've already been through this)....Guerrero isn't also one of the best pitchers in the league. He doesn't have the ability.

It's weird to me that you don't consider that fact to be important. It's not "he can pitch". It's "he's one of the best starters in the American League". HUGE distinction that I feel like you're just completely ignoring.

[TheMan]

Yea because (and we've already been through this)....Guerrero isn't also one of the best pitchers in the league. He doesn't have the ability.

It's weird to me that you don't consider that fact to be important. It's not "he can pitch". It's "he's one of the best starters in the American League". HUGE distinction that I feel like you're just completely ignoring.

Chewing doesn't get it, pitchers for the most part are automatic outs because that's not the reason they're in the big leagues, vice versa you can't put some 3rd baseman with a gun as an arm to pitch also and expect him to be a quality pitcher, the fact that Othani can do both at an elite level is something we haven't seen in our lifetime, it's that rare :facepalm

[Jasper]

st louis crushing the Brewers for a umpteenth victory .... are the brewers crushin' ??

[BurningHammer]

Jays vs Yankees series in Toronto starting this Tuesday will be thrilling.

[BurningHammer]

Stanton beasted it for Game 1, Yankees win.

Jays have to win the next two or they are out.

[Patrick Chewing]

Five games left? I'm wondering if Stanton can get to 40 homeruns. Dude has been crushing the ball as of late. With the amount of games he missed, getting to 40 homers is quite an achievement.

[BurningHammer]

Jays beat Yankees tonight with 2 homers from Bo Bichette.

Both Red Sox and Mariners win. So, Yankees' wild card lead is down to +1.0, followed by Red Sox, Mariners, and Jays.

It is down to the wire. 4-team tie is possible as well.

[ShawkFactory]

Got tickets for Braves/Brewers game 3 at Truist. I’m pumped it’s gonna be electric

[Patrick Chewing]

Wake me up when the Braves stop sucking. A team that was one win away from the World Series last year.

:oldlol:


From worst to first in the same season. Braves Division Champs for the 4th year in a row! And to do it with this broken and beaten up lineup. Here here!

[ShawkFactory]

:oldlol:


From worst to first in the same season. Braves Division Champs for the 4th year in a row! And to do it with this broken and beaten up lineup. Here here!

I would argue that acuna getting hurt...made us better? We just went out and nabbed every power hitting outfielder that exists. And that depth is a big part of who we are right now

And Chuck and Fried as a 1-2 in the playoffs is something no team wants to see.

[BurningHammer]

Both Red Sox and Yankees are now only +1.0 game lead of Blue Jays and probably Mariners (leading in 6th).

Red Sox seems to do well against Nationals while Yankees have got trashed by Rays. Blue Jays are crushing AAA Orioles.

Red Sox and Yankees' fates are on their hands on Decision Sunday. 4-way tie is still very possible.

[BurningHammer]

Yankees and Red Sox wins their 162nd games, both at the 9th innings. They are in the AL Wildcard game this Tuesday.

Blue Jays wins big again but it doesn't matter. :(

[TheMan]

Hoping BoSox beat NY and TB, then we get to host them after getting past HOU...

Go White Sox!

[Derka]

That was the most I've cared about a wild card race in ages. Sox/Yankees fans...we live for this kind of shit.

I feel a bit for the Dodgers; winning 105 games and left playing for their playoff lives against the Cards.

[Patrick Chewing]

That was the most I've cared about a wild card race in ages. Sox/Yankees fans...we live for this kind of shit.

I feel a bit for the Dodgers; winning 105 games and left playing for their playoff lives against the Cards.

Putting money on the Cards. They are the hottest team going into the postseason and Scherzer's been getting rocked as of late.

[Patrick Chewing]

I seriously do not know who should be the NL MVP. There is not one player that stands out. My gut says Harper cause he has monster numbers while missing 21 games. That's why his RBI numbers are down, but he's #1 in the entire league in OPS and #2 in the entire league in OBP. I would love it to be Austin Riley for propelling the Braves into the post-season without Acuña and Ozuna.

My dark horses for the MVP are Soto (who is becoming my favorite non-Braves player). He is arguably the best hitter in the game. And Trea Turner. Turner had a monster season as well while leading the entire league in Hits and Average. Not a fan of Tatis Jr. this year. Lots of Homeruns, but lots of errors and his Avg. and RBI numbers are nowhere near all the aforementioned players.

[ShawkFactory]

I seriously do not know who should be the NL MVP. There is not one player that stands out. My gut says Harper cause he has monster numbers while missing 21 games. That's why his RBI numbers are down, but he's #1 in the entire league in OPS and #2 in the entire league in OBP. I would love it to be Austin Riley for propelling the Braves into the post-season without Acuña and Ozuna.

My dark horses for the MVP are Soto (who is becoming my favorite non-Braves player). He is arguably the best hitter in the game. And Trea Turner. Turner had a monster season as well while leading the entire league in Hits and Average. Not a fan of Tatis Jr. this year. Lots of Homeruns, but lots of errors and his Avg. and RBI numbers are nowhere near all the aforementioned players.

It'll be Harper.

Riley doesn't have quite the overall numbers to be in the conversation yet. Plus a really high BABIP shows that there might have been a little luck involved for him this year.

But a .900 OPS and 6.1 WAR is better than I thought he would EVER be. So I love it.

[TheMan]

Post your postseason predictions...my heart wants the White Sox, lifelong fan and they certainly have the pitching to go deep but if I had to bet my mortgage...Yanks beat BoSox, ChiSox beat HOU, TB beats Yanks and TB beats Chicago in the ALCS. Over on the NL, STL beats LA, SF beats STL, MIL beats ATL and MIL beats SF in the NLCS. TB vs MIL in the World Series, with the Rays winning it all...hope I'm wrong though about my ChiSox but I think they're window is just opening, still not enough playoffs experience to beat the Rays this season who came close to winning it all last year.

Go White Sox!

[Charlie Sheen]

Post your postseason predictions...my heart wants the White Sox, lifelong fan and they certainly have the pitching to go deep but if I had to bet my mortgage...Yanks beat BoSox, ChiSox beat HOU, TB beats Yanks and TB beats Chicago in the ALCS. Over on the NL, STL beats LA, SF beats STL, MIL beats ATL and MIL beats SF in the NLCS. TB vs MIL in the World Series, with the Rays winning it all...hope I'm wrong though about my ChiSox but I think they're window is just opening, still not enough playoffs experience to beat the Rays this season who came close to winning it all last year.

Go White Sox!

I like Atlanta in that first round. Baseball has changed a lot. The old saying about you can't win without pitching in the playoffs has almost been reversed. These days, you can't win without the hitting. I have no idea what happens in the American League but I've hated Larussa since Oakland. Sorry TheMan I'm rooting hard against your sox :lol

Dodgers are too good. They win it all again.

[TheMan]

I like Atlanta in that first round. Baseball has changed a lot. The old saying about you can't win without pitching in the playoffs has almost been reversed. These days, you can't win without the hitting. I have no idea what happens in the American League but I've hated Larussa since Oakland. Sorry TheMan I'm rooting hard against your sox :lol

Dodgers are too good. They win it all again.

https://c.tenor.com/KU4xtLO4sQEAAAAC/friends-matthew-perry.gif

[72-10]

Putting money on the Cards. They are the hottest team going into the postseason and Scherzer's been getting rocked as of late.

no they're not that great

[imdaman99]

Gerrit Cole what a dud. Out after 2 innings. Was lucky to only give up 3 runs as his reliever bailed him out.

[BurningHammer]

Gerrit Cole what a dud. Out after 2 innings. Was lucky to only give up 3 runs as his reliever bailed him out.

He has been shitty in recent weeks so it is not surprising.

[ShawkFactory]

I feel like MLB should re-seed after the wildcard. No reason the dodgers and giants should be playing in the first round.

If STL wins here though the NL is open. Might be disrespectful to a 107 win team but I still don’t feel like they’re...that good? I don’t know it’s tough.

[bobopenguin]

literally 99% of ppl in the world would pick ohtani for AL MVP. i dunno why chewing wanna go against the tide.

[Patrick Chewing]

And just like that the White Sox are down 0-2 :lol

[ShawkFactory]

One bad pitch by Morton decides it. I like the way we fought against Hader in the 9th though.

Max Fried is probably clenching his fist right now getting ready to go fight tomorrow. Must win.

[Jasper]

brewers up 1-0 over the old Milwaukee Braves:oldlol::applause::oldlol:

[TheMan]

And just like that the White Sox are down 0-2 :lol

Yep, pitching has failed us so far...Sox play much better at home so I wouldn't be shocked if they force a Game 5 but I can't see them pulling out a deciding game at HOU but you never know, crazier things have happened.

[Patrick Chewing]

One bad pitch by Morton decides it. I like the way we fought against Hader in the 9th though.

Max Fried is probably clenching his fist right now getting ready to go fight tomorrow. Must win.


I had a feeling they'd lose this game. They have been such an inconsistent team this year with the bats it's unbelievable. They're hot, then they're cold again. And Snit is a horrible manager who doesn't know how to manufacture runs. This team doesn't bunt, doesn't move runners over the old fashioned way. They just rely on the long ball.

[ShawkFactory]

I had a feeling they'd lose this game. They have been such an inconsistent team this year with the bats it's unbelievable. They're hot, then they're cold again. And Snit is a horrible manager who doesn't know how to manufacture runs. This team doesn't bunt, doesn't move runners over the old fashioned way. They just rely on the long ball.

Snit isn’t about manufacturing runs. He about managing people. As Bobby Cox did

We have a power team and doesn’t do the little things very well because there are 6 dudes who can go off at any minute.

And Max Fried is a fvcking animal

[Hey Yo]

****in Peterson with the pinch hit 3r HR.

Way to go Houser you ass clown

[imdaman99]

This is a great game. Thought Rays were gonna go out quietly when they were down 5-0, should have known better :lol

[TheMan]

Kevin Cash is a terrible manager, the Rays keep winning in spite of him and it finally caught up to them again.

[Patrick Chewing]

Was hoping the Rays would have gone all the way to have three professional Tampa teams win the championship in the same calendar year.

[Patrick Chewing]

**** yeah!!!!

[Wally450]

Kevin Cash is a terrible manager, the Rays keep winning in spite of him and it finally caught up to them again.

I'm glad their analytics style of baseball blows up in their face in the playoffs. F*cked it up in the WS last year, and f*cked it up against Boston too.

[Jasper]

Well my Brewers are out of it , by lowly Braves....
My thoughts NL will win the W-series.

[Patrick Chewing]

Well my Brewers are out of it , by lowly Braves....
My thoughts NL will win the W-series.

Haha eat shit!!

[imdaman99]

It's a damn shame 1 of these teams is done after tonight. The 2 best teams in baseball play each in a 5 game series in a division series :yaohappy:

[ShawkFactory]

Well my Brewers are out of it , by lowly Braves....
My thoughts NL will win the W-series.

Lowly?

Won 4 straight divisions and were an inning away from the World Series last year.

[Chick Stern]

It's a damn shame 1 of these teams is done after tonight. The 2 best teams in baseball play each in a 5 game series in a division series :yaohappy:
Doyers!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl2isfvOtIo

[ShawkFactory]

The lowly Braves swag one out. Riley MVP.

Scherzer vs Morton should be interesting. Chuck is one of the best postseason pitchers of the last decade and the Braves aren’t scared of Max.

The Dodgers threw their entire bullpen tonight probably assuming Max does work tomorrow. Let’s hope it backfires

[TheMan]

Kind of wack that the Braves have HFA just based on winning a shitty division instead of the Dodgers who clearly had the better season. HFA should be based solely on who has the better record.

[Patrick Chewing]

Kind of wack that the Braves have HFA just based on winning a shitty division instead of the Dodgers who clearly had the better season. HFA should be based solely on who has the better record.

Hey buddy...

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3ohBV8qkSl8cfN3kU8/giphy.gif

[imdaman99]

Ugh I hope whoever comes out of the AL spanks the Braves/Dodgers.

Let's go Astros, even though it feels like the Sox are on their every 2-3-4 year magical ride.

[Vino24]

Redsox are a strange team. Their offense is absolutely brutal

[Wally450]

Redsox are a strange team. Their offense is absolutely brutal

Thank god we decided to get hot at absolutely the right time.