How Trump outsmarted China

[TheMan]

are you tired of winning?
If it's true that China and the US are finally talking, then that's good. Gotta stop this stupidity started by the Orange Moron.

[warriorfan]

If it's true that China and the US are finally talking, then that's good. Gotta stop this stupidity started by the Orange Moron.

You will be back selling cheap ali express garbage to beaner ladies in Mexico in no time!

America is saved.

[TheMan]

You will be back selling cheap ali express garbage to beaner ladies in Mexico in no time!

America is saved.

I already found an alternative, cheaper too!

I'm just saying for the good of the US economy in general, but why would you care, you keep getting those welfare checks that you spend on meth...that ain't drying up anytime soon.

[warriorfan]

I already found an alternative, cheaper too!

I'm just saying for the good of the US economy in general, but why would you care, you keep getting those welfare checks that you spend on meth...that ain't drying up anytime soon.

Big time projection. I’m not the poor beaner who couldn’t afford to live in the U.S. and had to leave to Mexico.

Have fun selling handbags out of your Mexican bodega :roll:

[TheMan]

Big time projection. I’m not the poor beaner who couldn’t afford to live in the U.S. and had to leave to Mexico.

Have fun selling handbags out of your Mexican bodega :roll:

Bro, I made good money in the US, try looking up how much a journeyman CNC machinist/programmer makes. I just wanted to own my own business, in Mexico where there are business opportunities as the markets aren't as oversaturated as they are in the US but all this will go over your head, methy. Keep believing I sell tacos out of a cart if it helps you cope lol

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL8YssuPvYE

[Hey Yo]

Hong Kong/London
CNN
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High-level talks between the United States and China have begun in Geneva, Switzerland, Chinese state media reported on Saturday, in a possible thaw in the trade war sparked by President Donald Trump’s massive tariffs.

Vice Premier He Lifeng will lead the talks on the Chinese side, while US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent will be America’s chief representative, state broadcaster CCTV said in a brief report.

Bessent urged the public earlier this week not to expect a major trade deal out of the meetings, but he acknowledged it was an important step in negotiations.

More
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/10/business/china-us-trade-talks-geneva-hnk-intl

[TheMan]

The US learned China was in Switzerland to meet EU countries to expand on their new trade deals, so she hightailed it to Switzerland like the crazy ex-gf that dumped her bf, told him she didn't need him at all and now realizing dude's hooking up with other girls, she's stalking him and begging him to call her :lol

But wait MAGA, were the tariffs goal to bring back manufacturing? If so, why even negotiate with China at all? They should be in place permanently to force US companies back, no? Short term pain, long term gain?

Now Trump is saying tariffs with China are for better trade deals, they have been ripping us off for years...so then bringing back manufacturing is now not a thing? The goal is to simply have better a trade deal with China? Can whiner234 explain? Hey Yo and warriorfan are clearly to stupid to even attempt at explaining this so what's all this about, whiner234?

BTW, China isn't ripping us off, China didn't force US companies to relocate and trade deficits isn't stealing, we're buying goods and they are sending it to us, it's like saying grocery stores are ripping us off because we keep buying from them week after week. Trump literally is the dumbest POS ever to step into the WH, makes GWB look like a genius.

[warriorfan]

The US heard China was in Switzerland to meet EU countries to expand on their new trade deals, the US heard about it and hightailed to Switzerland like the crazy ex-gf that dumped her bf, told him she didn't him and now realizing dude hooking up with other girls, she's stalking him and begging him to call her :lol

You sound like a gay gossip queen.

[TheMan]

You sound like a gay gossip queen.

This from the guy fixated on gay **** sex.

[warriorfan]

This from the guy fixated on gay **** sex.

You yourself said you don’t like gays.

Giving you a heads up muchacho.

You sound pretty gay right now.

[BigKobeFan]

You yourself said you don’t like gays.

Giving you a heads up muchacho.

You sound pretty gay right now.:lol:oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

The US learned China was in Switzerland to meet EU countries to expand on their new trade deals, so she hightailed it to Switzerland like the crazy ex-gf that dumped her bf, told him she didn't need him at all and now realizing dude's hooking up with other girls, she's stalking him and begging him to call her :lol

But wait MAGA, were the tariffs goal to bring back manufacturing? If so, why even negotiate with China at all? They should be in place permanently to force US companies back, no? Short term pain, long term gain?

Now Trump is saying tariffs with China are for better trade deals, they have been ripping us off for years...so then bringing back manufacturing is now not a thing? The goal is to simply have better a trade deal with China? Can whiner234 explain? Hey Yo and warriorfan are clearly to stupid to even attempt at explaining this so what's all this about, whiner234?

BTW, China isn't ripping us off, China didn't force US companies to relocate and trade deficits isn't stealing, we're buying goods and they are sending it to us, it's like saying grocery stores are ripping us off because we keep buying from them week after week. Trump literally is the dumbest POS ever to step into the WH, makes GWB look like a genius.

Is this what the news that is feeding you BS is trying to spin it? USA-China met for 12 hours yesterday and all day today. Word on the street is a new trade deal is near. Polymarket now has a USA-China trade deal happening before June at a 85% chance after being just 20% just a few days ago.

https://polymarket.com/event/us-china-trade-deal-before-june?tid=1747010857314

We win again fam!

[1987_Lakers]

China will keep 10% tariff on USA

USA will keep 30% tariff on China

While talks for a deal will continue.

[TheMan]

China will keep 10% tariff on USA

USA will keep 30% tariff on China

While talks for a deal will continue.

That's great news

[Hey Yo]

That's great news

When does your predicted recession going to start?

[rawimpact]

Just because China meets with other countries does not mean it can just create a demand. How dumb can one be to think China has any leverage in this? One cannot replace 400M of some of the world's wealthiest people as a consumer....

The US will always have the leverage because it has the demand.

When all is said and done, the USA will be in a better place vs before. It's about time we start using our leverage to make trade fair for the few things we do export.

When a final trade deal is done, the stock market will be at or higher vs what it was before. Funny how people cry about the stock market and use retirees as the victims. No Retiree is liquidating all their assets on a dip... just dumb logic. The end goal is to increase US financial position. This means offering tax incentives (on SS, OT, TIPS etc. as mentioned by Trump, so again, how does that not help our retirees?)

[TheMan]

When does your predicted recession going to start?

Hopefully it doesn't but major economists say it's already too late. You know who suffers the most in recessions? Us.

BTW, I don't know if this new trade deal which is obviously still in the works is a W for the US because a bunch of goods we buy are now 30% more expensive. Yay, let's spend more for the stuff we buy!

[1987_Lakers]

Just because China meets with other countries does not mean it can just create a demand. How dumb can one be to think China has any leverage in this? One cannot replace 400M of some of the world's wealthiest people as a consumer....

The US will always have the leverage because it has the demand.

When all is said and done, the USA will be in a better place vs before. It's about time we start using our leverage to make trade fair for the few things we do export.

When a final trade deal is done, the stock market will be at or higher vs what it was before. Funny how people cry about the stock market and use retirees as the victims. No Retiree is liquidating all their assets on a dip... just dumb logic. The end goal is to increase US financial position. This means offering tax incentives (on SS, OT, TIPS etc. as mentioned by Trump, so again, how does that not help our retirees?)

You had posters in here convince themselves that China didn’t care about the tariffs and wouldn’t talk to us about a deal. :lol

[TheMan]

You had posters in here convince themselves that China didn’t care about the tariffs and wouldn’t talk to us about a deal. :lol

I hate to break it to you but China's exports have gone up compared to last year's by 8.1%

What rawimpact doesn't realize is that China is trading with new partners since the US imposed those heavy tariffs, the demand was there but since the US was a steady customer albeit not so reliable, the products they were shipping to the US is now going into new markets. Meanwhile the US hasn't been as successful finding new purveyors of the goods we aren't receiving from China anymore, hence the empty ports and soon empty shelves economists are saying will be seeing in a matter of days/weeks...



Yes, China's exports have generally seen growth in the rest of the world, despite some fluctuations and specific trade challenges. In April 2025, China's overall exports rose by 8.1% year-on-year. This growth was driven by increased exports to certain regions and countries, including Southeast Asia, Latin America, and India. However, exports to the U.S. experienced a decline in April.
Key Factors:
Diversification of Export Destinations:
China has been diversifying its export destinations, particularly to countries within the "Belt and Road Initiative" and Southeast Asia.
Trade War Impact:
While exports to the U.S. were affected by tariffs, other markets helped offset the decline.
Pre-Tariff Rushing:
Some exporters rushed to ship goods before higher tariffs took effect, leading to increased exports in some months.
Strong Growth in Specific Sectors:
Some product categories, such as semiconductors, experienced significant export growth.
Domestic Economic Factors:
China's domestic economy, particularly the housing market, has also influenced export patterns, with the government relying more on exports to offset the economic downturn.
Specific Examples:
Southeast Asia:
Exports to Southeast Asian countries saw significant growth, with Vietnam and other countries experiencing high year-on-year increases.
Latin America:
Exports to Latin America also experienced growth, contributing to the overall export increase.
India:
Shipments to India increased significantly, indicating a rising trend in China's exports to that country.
U.S.:
Exports to the U.S. fell in April, largely due to new tariffs.

[TheMan]

You had posters in here convince themselves that China didn’t care about the tariffs and wouldn’t talk to us about a deal. :lol

Can't speak for anyone else but I never said China didn't care, my whole argument was that China was in a better position to come out on top in a US vs China trade war, especially since Trump stupidly imposed heavy tariffs on the rest of the world, except Russia of course. Instead of having Japan, S Korea, Mexico, Canada, Germany and other big US trading partners present a united front vs China, Trump pisses them off and they strike new trade deals with the Chinese instead.

The Art Of The Deal I guess :lol

[tpols]

The white man has been outsmarting Chyna since the days of Marco Polo.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WoUddebIuw

[1987_Lakers]

Can't speak for anyone else but I never said China didn't care, my whole argument was that China was in a better position to come out on top in a US vs China trade war, especially since Trump stupidly imposed heavy tariffs on the rest of the world, except Russia of course. Instead of having Japan, S Korea, Mexico, Canada, Germany and other big US trading partners present a united front vs China, Trump pisses them off and they strike new trade deals with the Chinese instead.

The Art Of The Deal I guess :lol

This is you on the first page


China upped the ante matching Trump's 125% tariffs on US goods...they don't GAF.

Of course 19-87 IQ Lakers gonna post Fox News and some goofball MAGA cultist as his sources :roll: Meanwhile everyone else sees that China is the real winner in this idiotic trade war vs the world Trump started. Dude is talking about bombing Yemen, Mexico, Iran and taking Gaza, Canada, Greenland and Panama. The US still thinking the world looks at China as a threat though :lol

Time and time again, I'm proved to be right about something while you end up looking foolish in the end.
:oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

He can't admit he was wrong despite probably realizing it at some level deep down because in his simple mind that's "losing" rather than a sign of maturity. Sad.

Look who was wrong in the end. Trump haters were popping champagne bottles before the game was even over. Sad.

[TheMan]

This is you on the first page



Time and time again, I'm proved to be right about something while you end up looking foolish in the end.
:oldlol:

Lol, is English your first language? They DGAF about going toe to toe with the US, goofy :lol hence the "they upped the ante" comment right before...:facepalm

[1987_Lakers]

https://media.tenor.com/LoJVlaSVVvkAAAAM/funny-really.gif

:lol

[TheMan]

:lol

Lol, right.

BTW, China's exports have gone up compared to last year, you totally ignored that. And another thing, China hasn't even made any significant concessions and Trump is slashing the tariffs by 115%.


https://youtu.be/0oKRpHoE0AQ?si=hWJXI9b_qeKb1RXG

[1987_Lakers]

Lol, right.

BTW, China's exports have gone up compared to last year, you totally ignored that. And another thing, China hasn't even made any significant concessions and Trump is slashing the tariffs by 115%.


https://youtu.be/0oKRpHoE0AQ?si=hWJXI9b_qeKb1RXG

Did you miss how China is allowing the US into its market as a part of the trade deal?

No way around it, Trump won.

But keep watching fake news propaganda as a way to cope. :lol

[warriorfan]

Did you miss how China is allowing the US into its market as a part of the trade deal?

No way around it, Trump won.

But keep watching fake news propaganda as a way to cope. :lol

I bet The Man was flying a China flag from his taco truck during Cinco De Mayo

[TheMan]

China's exports have generally seen growth in the rest of the world, despite some fluctuations and specific trade challenges. In April 2025, China's overall exports rose by 8.1% year-on-year. This growth was driven by increased exports to certain regions and countries, including Southeast Asia, Latin America, and India. However, exports to the U.S. experienced a decline in April.

Key Factors:

Diversification of Export Destinations:

China has been diversifying its export destinations, particularly to countries within the "Belt and Road Initiative" and Southeast Asia.

Trade War Impact:

While exports to the U.S. were affected by tariffs, other markets helped offset the decline.
Pre-Tariff Rushing:

Some exporters rushed to ship goods before higher tariffs took effect, leading to increased exports in some months.

Strong Growth in Specific Sectors:

Some product categories, such as semiconductors, experienced significant export growth.
Domestic Economic Factors:

China's domestic economy, particularly the housing market, has also influenced export patterns, with the government relying more on exports to offset the economic downturn.
Specific Examples:

Southeast Asia:

Exports to Southeast Asian countries saw significant growth, with Vietnam and other countries experiencing high year-on-year increases.

Latin America:

Exports to Latin America also experienced growth, contributing to the overall export increase.

India:
Shipments to India increased significantly, indicating a rising trend in China's exports to that country.

U.S.:

Exports to the U.S. fell in April, largely due to new tariffs.
What say you, 1987_Lakers?

[TheMan]

Did you miss how China is allowing the US into its market as a part of the trade deal?

No way around it, Trump won.

But keep watching fake news propaganda as a way to cope. :lol

Lol, the Chinese market was already open to US exports, the hell you talking about?

[1987_Lakers]

"This election is close"

"Trump is not winning Michigan"

"China has the upper hand in trade talks, they don't care about tariffs"

The Man, I think it's time to cancel the subscription to whatever news you watch.:lol


We win again fam!

[1987_Lakers]

Lol, the Chinese market was already open to US exports, the hell you talking about?

Part of the agreement of this trade talk is that they would open its market fully to the US. Keep up.

[TheMan]

Part of the agreement of this trade talk is that they would open its market fully to the US. Keep up.

But it's always been open.

So no significant concessions :lol

[TheMan]

"This election is close"

"Trump is not winning Michigan"

"China has the upper hand in trade talks, they don't care about tariffs"

The Man, I think it's time to cancel the subscription to whatever news you watch.:lol


We win again fam!

Deflect

[1987_Lakers]

Not for rare Earth minerals so it's not fully open... keep up.

That's why Trump just signed the rare earth mineral deal with Ukraine, keep up.

[1987_Lakers]

Hahaha, dude edited his post. :lol

[TheMan]

That's why Trump just signed the rare earth mineral deal with Ukraine, keep up.


https://youtube.com/shorts/g01Lx9k3pjU?si=ZBXGJ7JzcmdSIkvi

99.5% of heavy rare Earth minerals are separated in China. Having Ukrainian rare Earth minerals is basically useless to what the US needs :lol

[TheMan]

Hahaha, dude edited his post. :lol

So what, I was remembering that there are several types of rare Earth minerals, as the link explains.

That's why we have an edit option :confusedshrug:

[1987_Lakers]

https://youtube.com/shorts/g01Lx9k3pjU?si=ZBXGJ7JzcmdSIkvi

99.5% of heavy rare Earth minerals are separated in China. Having Ukrainian rare Earth minerals is basically useless to what the US needs :lol

Press secretary revealed that rare earth minerals were indeed discussed in the USA-China negotiations this weekend. I have no doubt they will be apart of the deal.

[warriorfan]

https://youtube.com/shorts/g01Lx9k3pjU?si=ZBXGJ7JzcmdSIkvi

99.5% of heavy rare Earth minerals are separated in China. Having Ukrainian rare Earth minerals is basically useless to what the US needs :lol

Imagine being a destitute beaner and spending literally all your spare time to try to fade America.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[TheMan]

Press secretary revealed that rare earth minerals were indeed discussed in the USA-China negotiations this weekend. I have no doubt they will be apart of the deal.
I would hope so, let's get this trade war BS over with...but they're not part of the deal rn. That's my point. So what concessions did China make to drop the tariffs significantly again?

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgmy3n0oY9c

[diamenz]

I would hope so, let's get this trade war BS over with...but they're not part of the deal rn. That's my point. So what concessions did China make to drop the tariffs significantly again?

there was no "deal". we have yet to get anything beneficial in all of this.

[TheMan]

there was no "deal". we have yet to get anything beneficial in all of this.

Tell that to OP, we're worse off after all this yet he somehow thinks Trump "won". Meanwhile the stock market lost a ton of money, the dollar was weakend and the rest of the world is now bypassing the US and making trade deals among themselves because the US won't even honor the same trade deals they sign.

Top economists from all over the world say this episode was more beneficial to China but he'll post a totally biased video from MAGA unknowns and claim we win again, fam!

[Baller234]

Tell that to OP, we're worse off after all this yet he somehow thinks Trump "won". Meanwhile the stock market lost a ton of money, the dollar was weakend and the rest of the world is now bypassing the US and making trade deals among themselves because the US won't even honor the same trade deals they sign.

Top economists from all over the world say this episode was more beneficial to China but he'll post a totally biased video from MAGA unknowns and claim we win again, fam!

Why would you believe the "top economists"? If they were so good with money as they claim to be, how come they aren't wealthy beyond all imagination themselves? How come they get paid meager salaries to weigh in on economics?

For every "expert" you can find that says what Trump is doing is terrible, I can find an "expert" who says it's great. I can also find actual billionaire investors who say what Trump is doing is great. So there's really no point in just throwing up your hands and saying "Hey the experts have spoken so there's nothing more for me to add.." If you're that swayed by expert opinion then how come only your experts count?

I take it you also believed the "top health experts" who swore up and down that covid came from a bat? Or the "top biological experts" when they told you that gender identity had a basis in biology? Yea... experts can be wrong. Experts can also be acting in bad faith.

The stock market is already creeping back up, so I don't know why you would even bring that up.

[Baller234]

Tell that to OP, we're worse off after all this yet he somehow thinks Trump "won". Meanwhile the stock market lost a ton of money, the dollar was weakend and the rest of the world is now bypassing the US and making trade deals among themselves because the US won't even honor the same trade deals they sign.

Top economists from all over the world say this episode was more beneficial to China but he'll post a totally biased video from MAGA unknowns and claim we win again, fam!

Why would you believe the "top economists"? If they were so good with money as they claim to be, how come they aren't wealthy beyond all imagination themselves? How come they get paid meager salaries to weigh in on economics?

For every "expert" you can find that says what Trump is doing is terrible, I can find an "expert" who says it's great. I can also find actual billionaire investors who say what Trump is doing is great. So there's really no point in just throwing up your hands and saying "Hey the experts have spoken so there's nothing more for me to add.." If you're that swayed by expert opinion then how come only your experts count?

I take it you also believed the "top health experts" who swore up and down that covid came from a bat? Or the "top biological experts" when they told you that gender identity had a basis in biology? Yea... experts can be wrong. Experts can also be acting in bad faith.

The stock market is already creeping back up, so I don't know why you would even bring that up.

[Baller234]

there was no "deal". we have yet to get anything beneficial in all of this.

Huh? They made a deal to drop the retaliatory tariffs and go back to doing business.


America’s Tariffs on China:

145% ---> 30%

China’s Tariffs on America:

125% ---> 10%


Trump challenged them to a game of chicken and won. Look who's paying more. Now we can make a trade deal under our terms.

[diamenz]

Huh? They made a deal to drop the retaliatory tariffs and go back to doing business.


America’s Tariffs on China:

145% ---> 30%

China’s Tariffs on America:

125% ---> 10%


Trump challenged them to a game of chicken and won. Look who's paying more. Now we can make a trade deal under our terms.

first off, regarding that 30% - 20% of that is from fentanyl. and you're kidding yourself if you think that's going to last.

now, yes - china lowered their tariffs in response to trump's threats of increasing tariffs on chinese goods. not the original tariffs they had - the extra tariffs they put in because of the extra tariffs that trump put in on "liberation day". so in the end, nothing's changed - there's no win here. we're back to square one sitting in the same boat we were before liberation day. plus prices here will continue to increase - that 30% is.... still high you know.

[TheMan]

first off, regarding that 30% - 20% of that is from fentanyl. and you're kidding yourself if you think that's going to last.

now, yes - china lowered their tariffs in response to trump's threats of increasing tariffs on chinese goods. not the original tariffs they had - the extra tariffs they put in because of the extra tariffs that trump put in on "liberation day". so in the end, nothing's changed - there's no win here. we're back to square one sitting in the same boat we were before liberation day. plus prices here will continue to increase - that 30% is.... still high you know.

Hey, Baller234 is totally happy paying 30% more, oh but if it were Biden though, didn't MAGA endlessly complain about inflation? I seem to remember that was a thing...meanwhile we're no closer to getting back US manufacturers, which was the initial goal according to Trump for these tariffs, now it's let's have a better deal where we can keep buying Chinese goods and forget about bringing back jobs :lol

[TheMan]

Why would you believe the "top economists"? If they were so good with money as they claim to be, how come they aren't wealthy beyond all imagination themselves? How come they get paid meager salaries to weigh in on economics?

For every "expert" you can find that says what Trump is doing is terrible, I can find an "expert" who says it's great. I can also find actual billionaire investors who say what Trump is doing is great. So there's really no point in just throwing up your hands and saying "Hey the experts have spoken so there's nothing more for me to add.." If you're that swayed by expert opinion then how come only your experts count?

I take it you also believed the "top health experts" who swore up and down that covid came from a bat? Or the "top biological experts" when they told you that gender identity had a basis in biology? Yea... experts can be wrong. Experts can also be acting in bad faith.

The stock market is already creeping back up, so I don't know why you would even bring that up.

You're so much into the cult is pretty scary, bro.

There's literally nothing Trump can do that you would object to :oldlol:

[Baller234]

You're so much into the cult is pretty scary, bro.

There's literally nothing Trump can do that you would object to :oldlol:

Object to what? Why would I object to Trump trying to negotiate a better deal for our country?

I'm just showing you why it's foolish to say "trust the experts bro" when it's clear you're only interested in finding experts who criticize Trump. And again I reiterate I think it's pretty hilarious that most of the economists who are supposed to be so called experts aren't wealthy themselves.

Seems to me if you want to be taken seriously as someone who's an expert when it comes to generating money, you should at least be wealthy yourself or have some kind or proven track record where you multiplied your own net worth several times over like Orange Face has.

Your side said Covid came from a bat and you bought it hook, line and sinker. Some of you guys are still wearing masks while alone outside. You probably had seven booster shots. Don't ever say we're the ones in the cult again.

[TheMan]

Object to what? Why would I object to Trump trying to negotiate a better deal for our country?

I'm just showing you why it's foolish to say "trust the experts bro" when it's clear you're only interested in finding experts who criticize Trump. And again I reiterate I think it's pretty hilarious that most of the economists who are supposed to be so called experts aren't wealthy themselves.

Seems to me if you want to be taken seriously as someone who's an expert when it comes to generating money, you should at least be wealthy yourself or have some kind or proven track record where you multiplied your own net worth several times over like Orange Face has.

Your side said Covid came from a bat and you bought it hook, line and sinker. Some of you guys are still wearing masks while alone outside. You probably had seven booster shots. Don't ever say we're the ones in the cult again.

I haven't gotten the Covid shot, ever. I came down with Covid pretty early on and aside from losing taste, pretty much was symptoms free. Stop assuming. I already told you I'm conservative on social issues and left on economics. You think Trump is the GOAT businessman, I think he's a con man, we aren't agreeing on that, ever.

[Baller234]

I haven't gotten the Covid shot, ever. I came down with Covid pretty early on and aside from losing taste, pretty much was symptoms free. Stop assuming. I already told you I'm conservative on social issues and left on economics. You think Trump is the GOAT businessman, I think he's a con man, we aren't agreeing on that, ever.

Only someone who's irrationally triggered or emotionally compromised would have trouble admitting that Donald Trump is a successful businessman.

I can say a lot of things about Trump. How he is a blowhard, how he says things without thinking, how he can be a total bullshit artist when it comes to not admitting mistakes, how he's an egomaniac and a narcissist who loves the sound of his own voice... I can go on.

But I would never accuse the guy of not knowing what he's doing when it comes to conducting business or negotiating deals. It's literally how he multiplied his fortune and became a household name.

[TheMan]

Only someone who's irrationally triggered or emotionally compromised would have trouble admitting that Donald Trump is a successful businessman.

I can say a lot of things about Trump. How he is a blowhard, how he says things without thinking, how he can be a total bullshit artist when it comes to not admitting mistakes, how he's an egomaniac and a narcissist who loves the sound of his own voice... I can go on.

But I would never accuse the guy of not knowing what he's doing when it comes to conducting business or negotiating deals. It's literally how he multiplied his fortune and became a household name.

I will agree that he's the GOAT salesman, and that is a skill. Hyped himself up, slaps his name on endless number of products and bullshitted his way to the White House with his fake populist demagoguery and has more money now than he can ever spend. That is impressive ngl.

[RRR3]

https://img.ifunny.co/images/87db2e452c905300f696f6a39f31fffbbe3e8e4d3763993410 e1639a7964be20_1.jpg


This is what I see reading a lot of this board's posts. You truly have no idea how Trump is hurting you.

[Baller234]

I will agree that he's the GOAT salesman, and that is a skill. Hyped himself up, slaps his name on endless number of products and bullshitted his way to the White House with his fake populist demagoguery and has more money now than he can ever spend. That is impressive ngl.

Well you admitted that you "leaned left" when it came to economics, so I take it your ideal economy won't take shape until Bernie Sanders shows up to your door with a free college degree and a lifetime rent freeze?

:oldlol:

[Axe]

Trump is a super weird fella. He's now planning to ban the use of all chips made by huawei anywhere around the world. :oldlol:

Would have been a bit understandable if it's within american soil only. Pfft.

Now, inb4 an autistic pdf file... oops, never mind.