so where are the epstein files?

[RRR3]

ZenMaster is spiraling :oldlol:


Walls closing in on his hero :roll:

[bladefd]

Hey MAGA, Trump just said you are stupid and foolish in a direct quote. Are you just going to take it?


"It was a hoax. It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats and some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net. And so they try and do the Democrats work. The Democrats are good for nothing other than these hoaxes," Trump told ABC's Bruce.https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-blasts-epstein-files-release-supporters/story?id=123799343

[RRR3]

Hey MAGA, Trump just said you are stupid and foolish in a direct quote. Are you just going to take it?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-blasts-epstein-files-release-supporters/story?id=123799343
He doesnt want their support anymore :lol


“Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker. They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years,” he wrote.

“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support any more!”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/16/donald-trump-dismisses-inquiry-into-jeffrey-epstein-as-boring




bawler, chewy and zen, how can you still support your hero after this? He hates you.

[highwhey]

How many people do you know personally that drowned?

You don't think it's a coincidence that the Obamas AND the Clintons BOTH have a chef who drowned?

Lmao.

:oldlol:

why stop at the chef? their secrete service agents, including while in office and post-presidency spend far more time around them.

wealthy/influtential people tend to hire the same people/companies that are vetted/trusted. it's not a far reach that they both hired the same chef bc that chef was trustworthy. you're reaching.

[ZenMaster]

ZenMaster is spiraling :oldlol:


Walls closing in on his hero :roll:

Oh he's already done, he aligned himself with very popular people who mentioned Epstein over and over and went completely 180 on the subject. If Musk is serious about his new party, there's probably nothing better that could happen than this.

[Baller234]

why stop at the chef? their secrete service agents, including while in office and post-presidency spend far more time around them.

wealthy/influtential people tend to hire the same people/companies that are vetted/trusted. it's not a far reach that they both hired the same chef bc that chef was trustworthy. you're reaching.

No you idiot, it wasn't the same chef.

Two DIFFERENT chefs drowned. One was the personal chef for the Clintons, one for the Obamas.

They BOTH had their own chef that drowned.

[RRR3]

Oh he's already done, he aligned himself with very popular people who mentioned Epstein over and over and went completely 180 on the subject. If Musk is serious about his new party, there's probably nothing better that could happen than this.
So you admit Trump tricked you?

[Baller234]

Oh he's already done, he aligned himself with very popular people who mentioned Epstein over and over and went completely 180 on the subject. If Musk is serious about his new party, there's probably nothing better that could happen than this.

I wouldn't count out Trump. As much as people are making a stink over this, I think deep down a lot of people understand the nuances and the risk involved. The people on Team MAGA who are holding Trump's feet to the fire on this aren't going to just abandon the MAGA agenda over it. They may respect Trump less than they did before but if he delivers on his other promises I still think he can carry some momentum.

Elon looks bad in this well. This guy claims to know what's being hidden and who's involved but he went along with it and covered it up as well. If he really cared that much he could tell us all what he knows now and stop being coy.

[highwhey]

I wouldn't count out Trump. As much as people are making a stink over this, I think deep down a lot of people understand the nuances and the risk involved. The people on Team MAGA who are holding Trump's feet to the fire on this aren't going to just abandon the MAGA agenda over it. They may respect Trump less than they did before but if he delivers on his other promises I still think he can carry some momentum.

Elon looks bad in this well. This guy claims to know what's being hidden and who's involved but he went along with it and covered it up as well. If he really cared that much he could tell us all what he knows now and stop being coy.

you're such a cvck. you'd probably get cheated on and think to yourself "maybe deep down i understand the nuances and the risk involved, she has her reasons so i forgive her".

[Baller234]

you're such a cvck. you'd probably get cheated on and think to yourself "maybe deep down i understand the nuances and the risk involved, she has her reasons so i forgive her".

I see you gave up on trying to rationalize the chef thing.

[ZenMaster]

So you admit Trump tricked you?

Personally I wasn't holding my breath after he didn't go after anyone in his first term, but the right as a whole is shot and a lot of people are very disappointed and suspicious, like they should be.

[Off the Court]

Obama would just claim he was unaware. And it could be 100% true. The FBI is it's own entity.

When a POTUS is elected into office, the FBI doesn't approach them and spill out every file they have on everything. They have probably endless information on all sorts of shit. And there are probably certain procedures the POTUS has to take to get a briefing or access, to classify or declassify anything, etc.


I'll tell you this though, there is absolutely a huge internal battle going on within the FBI, because there is no way in hell they released that prison cell footage without understanding the meta-data could be inspected. They released that HOPING to get caught. And it went over the heads of Kash and Bongino who are not tech savy individuals.

[RRR3]

Personally I wasn't holding my breath after he didn't go after anyone in his first term, but the right as a whole is shot and a lot of people are very disappointed and suspicious, like they should be.
Better late than never I guess.

[highwhey]

I see you gave up on trying to rationalize the chef thing.

it's a reach. you're a cvck as well.

[ZenMaster]

Obama would just claim he was unaware. And it could be 100% true. The FBI is it's own entity.

When a POTUS is elected into office, the FBI doesn't approach them and spill out every file they have on everything. They have probably endless information on all sorts of shit. And there are probably certain procedures the POTUS has to take to get a briefing or access, to classify or declassify anything, etc.


I'll tell you this though, there is absolutely a huge internal battle going on within the FBI, because there is no way in hell they released that prison cell footage without understanding the meta-data could be inspected. They released that HOPING to get caught. And it went over the heads of Kash and Bongino who are not tech savy individuals.

To think that a billionaire and democrat donor, with a foundation heavily involved with both the Clinton and Gates foundations on various projects, that a guy like that delivers this kind of information after a public trial about him trafficking a 14 year old and the President doesn't know. I call bullshit, it's literally national security given how sensitive the information is.

[Off the Court]

To think that a billionaire and democrat donor, with a foundation heavily involved with both the Clinton and Gates foundations on various projects, that a guy like that delivers this kind of information after a public trial about him trafficking a 14 year old and the President doesn't know. I call bullshit, it's literally national security given how sensitive the information is.

Maybe, maybe not. I'm just telling you that every POTUS before Trump can play the "I didn't know" card.

[ArbitraryWater]

Trump doubling and tripling down on this is hilarious, dudes completely lost his base :lol

[ZenMaster]

Maybe, maybe not. I'm just telling you that every POTUS before Trump can play the "I didn't know" card.

And you've already set up an excuse to believe him in case he'd do that, it's very telling. With Trump you keep speculating with about how a Jerry Springer producer lawsuit might be real because you read it in a tweet, but with Obama you're almost bragging about how he could get out of it.

[Off the Court]

And you've already set up an excuse to believe him in case he'd do that, it's very telling. With Trump you keep speculating with about how a Jerry Springer producer lawsuit might be real because you read it in a tweet, but with Obama you're almost bragging about how he could get out of it.
I'm definitely not "bragging" and anyone involved with a coverup should be locked up IMO. Throw away the key.

But I have to throw the obvious out there. Because with most of you guys it's like "why did everyone else cover it up?". As though right when they are elected President the FBI approaches them and tells them about everyone Epstein was messing with.

And with Obama and Biden, neither were implicated, so with both of them it would be snooping around to see who and what happened, and it is entirely feasible that they just had more important shit to do.


It is also 100% feasible that both knew everything and have kept that knowledge hidden. And if that is shown? Prison.

[Off the Court]

Some in the FBI are in trouble here. I am not sure how it works, or what their protocol is. But if they know there are guilty pedos running around and kept silent? I mean, maybe they can do that under the guise of "it would blow the investigation" or something.

Someone or multiple in there knows who killed Epstein. Some of them edited footage. And someone in there purposely released edited footage knowing it would quickly be exposed. So there are some in there who want the truth exposed.

I think what is happening within the FBI, is probably a much more serious ordeal than people realize because everyone is focused on Trump.

[RRR3]

Biden wasn't implicated but everyone know's dude is a pedo already so no one would be surprised.

[ZenMaster]

I'm definitely not "bragging" and anyone involved with a coverup should be locked up IMO. Throw away the key.

But I have to throw the obvious out there. Because with most of you guys it's like "why did everyone else cover it up?". As though right when they are elected President the FBI approaches them and tells them about everyone Epstein was messing with.

And with Obama and Biden, neither were implicated, so with both of them it would be snooping around to see who and what happened, and it is entirely feasible that they just had more important shit to do.


It is also 100% feasible that both knew everything and have kept that knowledge hidden. And if that is shown? Prison.

How could Obama not know if he and the Dems now are ready to sacrifice Bill Clinton and want the files released?


I think because Bill Clinton is all over it. There is no denying that Bill has just as much going against him in this ordeal as Trump does. And I am sure he is feeling the heat over it.

Obama helped campaign for Hillary, is good friends with the Clintons. And I think that neither side has wanted these files released. UNTIL NOW. I think that enough time has passed, and Bill and Hillary are far back in the rear view now, that we have reached a point where the Dems are willing to sacrifice Bill Clinton.

[Off the Court]

Biden wasn't implicated but everyone know's dude is a pedo already so no one would be surprised.

Running around with Epstein? I'd be really surprised if him or Obama were in that mix.

The only guilt I can imagine with either of them around Epstein is knowingly covering up for Bill. And that one I can see.

[Off the Court]

How could Obama not know if he and the Dems now are ready to sacrifice Bill Clinton and want the files released?
You did this last time with something else. I am saying either possibility is feasible.

You even quoted it there.

"It is also 100% feasible that both knew everything and have kept that knowledge hidden. And if that is shown? Prison."

[RRR3]

Running around with Epstein? I'd be really surprised if him or Obama were in that mix.

The only guilt I can imagine with either of them around Epstein is knowingly covering up for Bill. And that one I can see.
You'd be surprised about BIDEN? Have you seen how he acts around kids? Cmon man stop being so partisan.

[diamenz]

it all makes sense now - michelle obama had her sex change surgery done on epstein island.

[Off the Court]

You'd be surprised about BIDEN? Have you seen how he acts around kids? Cmon man stop being so partisan.

With Epstein? YES very surprised.

Is there even a single picture of Joe with Epstein? The two did not know each other as far as I am aware. He has never been implicated in this.

[diamenz]

With Epstein? YES very surprised.

Is there even a single picture of Joe with Epstein? The two did not know each other as far as I am aware. He has never been implicated in this.

that's because biden has his own child sex ring.

[Off the Court]

No one is even going to come after Biden and Obama in this lol. The hunt will end at Bill Clinton and Donald Trump as far as US Presidents go.

[warriorfan]

You'd be surprised about BIDEN? Have you seen how he acts around kids? Cmon man stop being so partisan.

Off the court has gotten so unhinged with his 24/7 fantasizing about donald trump ****ing kids that even RRR3 is distancing himself from him


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Off the Court]

Hey, if Biden is unveiled in this, I will 10000% eat crow. I do not give the slightest f@3k about Biden.

He won't be though.

[Off the Court]

I think it will be Bill, Donald, and then a bunch of rich dudes and lawyers that most are unfamiliar with. Prince Andrew is implicated, no one will give a f@#k though. And I could see a random celeb or two that might kind of shock people. I doubt that Gates did anything, he is just too nerdy, I don't think he even has a sex drive. But I suppose it is possible. Steven Hawking was there too but we know he isn't doing shit.

Most of the attention will be given to Donald Trump and Bill Clinton.

And then I think there will be tons of drama centered around certain FBI agents.

That is my official prediction.

[ZenMaster]

No one is even going to come after Biden and Obama in this lol. The hunt will end at Bill Clinton and Donald Trump as far as US Presidents go.

There you go bragging about it again :cheers: Anyways, Biden is on video doing the dead hands move to an 8 year old girl so he could fondle her nipples, it's disgusting.

[warriorfan]

Hey, if Biden is unveiled in this, I will 10000% eat crow. I do not give the slightest f@3k about Biden.

He won't be though.

News flash. No one gives a shit about your takes of who ****s kids or not and who’s gonna “take the L” if they are wrong

You are legit being a sports fan in politics and hoping the other team ****ed kids so you can cheer and have some sort of morbid celebration.

Seek help immediately little guy

[Off the Court]

News flash. No one gives a shit about your takes of who ****s kids or not and who’s gonna “take the L” if they are wrong

You are legit being a sports fan in politics and hoping the other team ****ed kids so you can cheer and have some sort of morbid celebration.

Seek help immediately little guy

yeah, totally man no one cares about this at all.

:roll:

[warriorfan]

There you go bragging about it again :cheers: Anyways, Biden is on video doing the dead hands move to an 8 year old girl so he could fondle her nipples, it's disgusting.

He is making up conspiracy theories about donald trump being inappropriate with kids when there is literally mountains of video evidence of biden being wildly inappropriate.

Tbh I think a family member molested him or something. This behavior is super bizarre. This ain’t it.

[Off the Court]

News flash. No one gives a shit about your takes of who ****s kids or not and who’s gonna “take the L” if they are wrong

You are legit being a sports fan in politics and hoping the other team ****ed kids so you can cheer and have some sort of morbid celebration.

Seek help immediately little guy

yeah, totally man no one cares about this at all.

:roll:

[warriorfan]

yeah, totally man no one cares about this at all.

:roll:

No one cares about your hot takes and predictions/fantasies about donald trump having sex with children.

The “I’ll eat crow” is so painfully un self-aware. Legit no one gives 2 ****s about you or any double digit iq and highly emotional takes you have.


Legit get a life lmao

[Off the Court]

No one cares about your hot takes and predictions/fantasies about donald trump having sex with children.

The “I’ll eat crow” is so painfully un self-aware.


Legit get a life lmao

You care. You're reading my takes. And it's triggering you.

You've been reading me. The minute R3 disagreed you jumped in shouting victory :oldlol:

[Baller234]

I'm willing to bet that Trump wasn't involved in the underage tomfoolery. I know I can't prove that and I know the list is probably never coming out, so it's easy for me to say that, but I'll make that claim right now. If it comes out that I'm wrong, I will own it and you're free to ridicule me all time for it.

I believe he could be compromised in some other way or he's trying to prevent some catastrophic political fallout. His behavior up until this point has just been too weird and too off brand for him for it to turn out like this. It's just insanely hard to believe he was involved and allowed it to get to this point.

If you're guilty of a crime you don't put a spotlight on it, have everyone in your family talk about it, have everyone in your campaign talk about it, hire the guys who made their reputations on it... and then do this. Especially knowing it would have been EXTREMELY easy for him to avoid this path.

I think even Trump's most avid haters could admit this is out of character for him.

[warriorfan]

You care. You're reading my takes. And it's triggering you.

You've been reading me. The minute R3 disagreed you jumped in shouting victory :oldlol:

This isn’t about winning and losing.

The very fact your mind goes to that direction is extremely telling.

You are turning politics into this sports like mindset where there has to be a “winner” and a “loser”.

You are obviously compensating for other areas in your life. If you are obsessively searching for something that claims donald trump is having sex with kids and think it’s some huge W…. Like legit get a hobby or go do something productive and fulfilling.

Grandstanding and trying to make everything about Donald Trump and turning it into some sort of weird pissing match shows you have a huge void in your life.

No one cares. Get a life. For real.

[Off the Court]

This isn’t about winning and losing.

The very fact your mind goes to that direction is extremely telling.

You are turning politics into this sports like mindset where there has to be a “winner” and a “loser”.

You are obviously compensating for other areas in your life. If you are obsessively searching for something that claims donald trump is having sex with kids and think it’s some huge W…. Like legit get a hobby or go do something productive and fulfilling.

Grandstanding and trying to make everything about Donald Trump and turning it into some sort of weird pissing match shows you have a huge void in your life.

No one cares. Get a life. For real.

Goes the direction of Trump being involved with Epstein? :oldlol:

I mean, I guess you haven't been on any social media lately. The entire world's mind has gone that direction. Maybe try keeping up with the latest trends instead of jumping in here and pretending like it's all just me.

[warriorfan]

Goes the direction of Trump being involved with Epstein? :oldlol:

I mean, I guess you haven't been on any social media lately. The entire world's mind has gone that direction. Maybe try keeping up with the latest trends instead of jumping in here and pretending like it's all just me.

No

In the direction of “i’ll eat crow” like your tinfoil level hot takes mean anything and that anyone cares.

Plus we all know you will ghost and just pop up on another alt afterwards.

This obviously isn’t the first time.

[Off the Court]

No

In the direction of “i’ll eat crow” like your tinfoil level hot takes mean anything and that anyone cares.

Plus we all know you will ghost and just pop up on another alt afterwards.

This obviously isn’t the first time.

Biden NOT being listed is a "tinfiol level hot take" ? :oldlol:

I won't ghost. Want to avy bet on Biden if documents are released? Let do it, we all know you care deeply about this.

[ZenMaster]

I wouldn't count out Trump. As much as people are making a stink over this, I think deep down a lot of people understand the nuances and the risk involved. The people on Team MAGA who are holding Trump's feet to the fire on this aren't going to just abandon the MAGA agenda over it. They may respect Trump less than they did before but if he delivers on his other promises I still think he can carry some momentum.

Elon looks bad in this well. This guy claims to know what's being hidden and who's involved but he went along with it and covered it up as well. If he really cared that much he could tell us all what he knows now and stop being coy.

People will take the good that's there, like making sure dems didn't keep flooding the country with illegal workers, but the communication to his supporters about Epstein is terrible. If the whole wide conspiracy theory about Epstein is a hoax and the girls were for himself and only a few friends, that could have been explained so much better than berating that reporter with "you're still taking about that creep?".

[diamenz]

People will take the good that's there, like making sure dems didn't keep flooding the country with illegal workers, but the communication to his supporters about Epstein is terrible. If the whole wide conspiracy theory about Epstein is a hoax and the girls were for himself and only a few friends, that could have been explained so much better than berating that reporter with "you're still taking about that creep?".

yeah it's one thing to support the policy but if you're (not you in particular) willing to go to bat for this guy after how he's revealed the way he thinks about you then you're just a cuck of the highest order.

obviously people like you and baller can think for yourselves but someone like chewing for example will just stay being a b1tch. it seems he always finds a way anyway.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump is so desperate for a distraction from Epstein, he actually released his medical update.

[diamenz]

Trump sent Jeffrey Epstein ‘bawdy’ 50th birthday letter: WSJ (https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/17/trump-jeffrey-epstein-birthday-letter-wsj.html)


A “bawdy” letter to Jeffrey Epstein bearing President Donald Trump’s signature was included in an album of letters Epstein received for his 50th birthday in 2003, The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday evening, citing documents reviewed by the newspaper.

The letter, which the Journal said Trump sent at the request of Epstein’s friend Ghislaine Maxwell, would have been written 16 years before the Justice Department charged the now-dead Epstein with child sex trafficking in 2019, during Trump’s first term in office.

The missive, which Trump denied having written, came to light as the president angrily tries to tamp down growing criticism of the decision by Attorney General Pam Bondi not to release more evidence the Justice Department obtained during its investigation of Epstein.

It was unclear whether the birthday album was among the Epstein documents recently reviewed by the Justice Department. CNBC has requested comment from the Justice Department and the White House about the album and the letter.

According to the Journal, the letter “contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker.”

“A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly ‘Donald’ below her waist, mimicking pubic hair,” the Journal’s Khadeeja Safdar and Joe Palazzolo reported.

“The letter concludes: ‘Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret,’” they wrote.

The Journal said that it was not clear “how the letter with Trump’s signature was prepared.”

“Inside the outline of the naked woman was a typewritten note styled as an imaginary conversation between Trump and Epstein, written in the third person,” the paper reported.

A leather-bound album book containing Trump’s birthday letter, as well as letters to Epstein from the lawyer Alan Dershowitz and billionaire Les Wexner, was among the documents “examined by Justice Department officials who investigated Epstein and Maxwell years ago,” the newspaper reported, citing people who have reviewed the pages.

Trump denied writing the letter or drawing the photo during an interview on Tuesday, according to the newspaper.

“This is not me. This is a fake thing. It’s a fake Wall Street Journal story,” he said. “I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women,” he said. “It’s not my language. It’s not my words.”

The paper said that Trump told the Journal that if it published an article about the letter, “I’m gonna sue The Wall Street Journal just like I sued everyone else.”

After the Journal’s story was published, Trump said he would file a lawsuit against the newspaper, its parent company NewsCorp and against Rupert Murdoch, whose family holds a controlling stake in NewsCorp.

Trump wrote that Murdoch had been “warned directly” by Trump that he would be sued if the Journal printed the story.

“Mr. Murdoch stated that he would take care of it but, obviously, did not have the power to do so,” Trump claimed in a post on Truth Social.

Shortly after he wrote that post, however, Trump announced that he had asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to seek “any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval,” on the Epstein case.

Legal experts quickly noted that the secrecy of grand jury testimony is strictly protected, raising questions of whether Bondi’s request would be made with any serious expectation of success.

The Journal’s article was published a day after the Justice Department fired Maurene Comey, a top prosecutor in the Manhattan U.S. Attorney’s Office, who had been part of the teams that prosecuted Epstein and Maxwell. Comey is the daughter of Trump’s long-time nemesis James Comey, whom Trump fired as FBI director in 2017.

Trump has said that he ended his friendship with Epstein before the money manager pleaded guilty to a sex crime involving a minor in Florida state court in 2008.

Epstein, then 66, died in August 2019 in a Manhattan federal jail, a month after his arrest on child sex trafficking charges. His death was ruled a suicide.

Maxwell was convicted at trial in Manhattan federal court of multiple crimes related to procuring underage girls to be sexually abused by Epstein. In 2022, she received a 20-year prison sentence.

[highwhey]

Trump sent Jeffrey Epstein ‘bawdy’ 50th birthday letter: WSJ (https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/17/trump-jeffrey-epstein-birthday-letter-wsj.html)

oh the sharks are circling LMAO. you know damn well they were waiting to release this at the right moment to do the most damage :oldlol:

[ZenMaster]

yeah it's one thing to support the policy but if you're (not you in particular) willing to go to bat for this guy after how he's revealed the way he thinks about you then you're just a cuck of the highest order.

obviously people like you and baller can think for yourselves but someone like chewing for example will just stay being a b1tch. it seems he always finds a way anyway.

One also shouldn't go overboard, Trump is an old boomer after all and he's not always connecting well with his base, operation warp speed and his proudness of it comes to mind. There are a lot of psychological aspects when it comes to the Epstein case.

Some other thoughts:

Dems are desperate, a big chunk of their base support is getting deported and the positives of removing illegal immigrants sucking the bottom out of society are starting to show. Even Bernie was on TV the other day talking positively about deporting illegal immigrants, which used to be his old opinion too as someone looking out for the American worker.

A campaign has run online since last year in left communities, lots of tweets and stories in the mold of "new docs Epstein docs released" and then use of that fake lawsuit OTC keeps referencing in this thread. At the same time Epstein pics were scrubbed, if you search for it now you only get a few pics of other people mentioned by Virginia Roberts in her testimony - Clinton and Prince Andrew - everything else is basically of him and Trump. In it's own sense it's quite remarkable how the same 10ish pics of Trump and Epstein has been shared over and over here on ISH in the last 1-2 years, with nothing private ever leaking. The goal is to make Trump guilty by association.
Do you notice the hubris and sense of security that people have here in the thread concluding Trump raped kids? The same people who would berate others in the past for "believing random tweets" are now literally posting pictures of random tweets about this subject. The campaign has surely worked. The same people who kept talking about how Musk is unstable and tweets on drugs also now fully believe that's he's been allowed access to see videos of Trump raping kids - or at least they pretend to do so, and wrote a tweet about it.

My take on the Epstein case from the testimony and case points I've seen:

Highly intelligent, both with numbers and socially, who was also a pedo predator attracted to females from puberty and up, with an affinity for the puberty age.
His thing was mainly getting massages with handjobs, sometimes sex. To fulfill these needs he needed young girls, which he'd get in different ways and often through the help of Maxwell and Brunel.

Being a pedo and abusing kids sexually isn't accepted in social circles outside of other pedos, so like most other pedos, Epstein lived a double life, only showing his shadow side to the few he trusted. It's why there's no client list, because Epstein was a billionaire with his own predator desires. It's also why some people might have gone to Epstein island and done terrible stuff with Epstein, while others went there for regular parties/events.

He has different "types" of victims.
He'd find girls in the US and Brunel would send young girls over from Europe too looking to become models, probably when they got to NY it was presented that part of the opportunity included them having to do this for Epstein. He'd pay the girls for their visits, underage prostitution. I think that's why a lot of women have silently collected compensation since the case was reopened as they were taken advantage of, not wanting their name on the news because they had sex with Epstein back in the day when they were trying to become models in NY. I also think that's why a most of his victims won't ever come forward.

Virginia Roberts (and of course there may be others like her) is a different type of victim. She was recruited by Maxwell at 15 from Mar-A-Lago where she was a spa attendant, to come give private massages for Epstein and learn the trade that way travelling around with them. But in a predatory sense Epstein and Maxwell struck gold with Roberts, as she had already been abused when she was very young and had also lived on the streets and experienced abuse there. She was very fragile, that's why they could mold her and keep her around for a longer period. Because she was such a fractured youth, I do believe there's a decent chance that Roberts might have helped recruit a few other girls for Epstein as well. She sadly took her own life last month or so, I hope she's found peace.

When Trump found out that Epstein had recruited a teenager working at his resort is when he stopped talking and being social with him, it's why he was helpful in providing information to Virginia Robert's lawyer when she initially sued Epstein in 2009.

As for the whole Mossad/CIA angle that some people are shooting around. I wouldn't be surprised if when Epstein first got busted in 2006 or 07, that someone in intelligence got the idea how a billionaire pedo like Epstein could be more useful free than in jail, which would explain his initial sweetheart deal from the US gov.

[Jasper]

have a secret happy birthday every one

[Baller234]

Wouldn't you know it. Trump wrote Epstein a birthday letter, and it comes out right at the exact moment the Epstein news is making a buzz. Not anytime over the last 10 years.

If you believe that letter is real then you probably also think professional wrestling is real. :oldlol:

[Baller234]

This letter thing is such a dumb play by the democrats that I'm halfway convinced Trump's people put it out there on purpose for them scoop it up. Now he gets to play the fake news and the "hoax" card again.

[Hey Yo]

Wouldn't you know it. Trump wrote Epstein a birthday letter, and it comes out right at the exact moment the Epstein news is making a buzz. Not anytime over the last 10 years.

If you believe that letter is real then you probably also think professional wrestling is real. :oldlol:

In before BurningAxeHammer flips out on you and says pro wrestling is indeed real.

[Off the Court]

Read a plausible theory, that Trump actually met Melania through Epstein. Epstein was using aspiring models to work for him. She did live in NY, and the theory is that she was working as a prostitute for Epstein, who had modeling connections. Trump met her through Epstein.

And it wasn't until later that Trump was hit with the sudden realization that his wife will be exposed as a former Epstein prostitute if the files are released.


None of that has any backing, all just 100% speculation, however, it does seem plausible.

[ZenMaster]

I hope you're not paying for the substack where you're reading these theories.

[j3lademaster]

Wouldn't you know it. Trump wrote Epstein a birthday letter, and it comes out right at the exact moment the Epstein news is making a buzz. Not anytime over the last 10 years.

If you believe that letter is real then you probably also think professional wrestling is real. :oldlol:No, that's the most basic 101 shit when it comes to politics. Information and evidence is only as valuable as using it at the right time, you don't just release this right away. You don't release it when Trump just got shot at and his ratings were at its peak. You release it when there's a ripple in his base over Epstein, and the dems 100% planned that because they knew when Trump was running on releasing the list that he wouldn't be able to follow through. You can call that deceitful, sure, but the timing for such evidence can't be better from a political standpoint. The dems might even have more damning stuff, but reporting it all at once will cause fatigue from the viewers and/or overwhelm.

[Off the Court]

I hope you're not paying for the substack where you're reading these theories.

Stumbled across it on Twitter. I personally just think the Katie Johnson story is real, but that one at least seems plausible.

[Baller234]

No, that's the most basic 101 shit when it comes to politics. Information and evidence is only as valuable as using it at the right time, you don't just release this right away. You don't release it when Trump just got shot at and his ratings were at its peak. You release it when there's a ripple in his base over Epstein, and the dems 100% planned that because they knew when Trump was running on releasing the list that he wouldn't be able to follow through. You can call that deceitful, sure, but the timing for such evidence can't be better from a political standpoint. The dems might even have more damning stuff, but reporting it all at once will cause fatigue from the viewers and/or overwhelm.

You mean like during election season when this kind of thing could have torpedoed his campaign? :oldlol:

Sorry you have to be a true window licking retard to believe this real.

[Off the Court]

The birthday drawing being fake/staged would be weird IMO. It doesn't prove guilt or anything, and we already know that Trump and Epstein were good buddies.

It just seems like a strange thing for someone to think up and fake.

[ZenMaster]

Stumbled across it on Twitter. I personally just think the Katie Johnson story is real, but that one at least seems plausible.

I know, you think the Johnson allegations are real because feelings. It just hit the spot in all the right ways for you. Didn't you read the Yahoo piece about why it's very likely fake though?

[ZenMaster]

The birthday drawing being fake/staged would be weird IMO. It doesn't prove guilt or anything, and we already know that Trump and Epstein were good buddies.

It just seems like a strange thing for someone to think up and fake.

Where is the drawing even leaked from, is it part of the Epstein files or what's the story?

[j3lademaster]

You mean like during election season when this kind of thing could have torpedoed his campaign? :oldlol:

Sorry you have to be a true window licking retard to believe this real.
It would have done nothing. Every Trump voter would have just said "oh but he's running on releasing it so that can't be real".

I thought not even YOU can be this dumb, but you just never cease to amaze.

[Baller234]

It would have done nothing. Every Trump voter would have just said "oh but he's running on releasing it so that can't be real".

I thought not even YOU can be this dumb, but you just never cease to amaze.

Yea, let's wait until after he's elected president to release an incredibly damning piece of evidence. Also, let's wait until the Epstein becomes the #1 media story because we have a crystal ball and know for certain that's going to happen.

[Off the Court]

I know, you think the Johnson allegations are real because feelings. It just hit the spot in all the right ways for you. Didn't you read the Yahoo piece about why it's very likely fake though?

Right feelings. But no, it's probably real because f@#king DUH :roll:

We crossed the line a long time ago where it is now only MAGA cultists who are defending the obvious over their feelings.

[Off the Court]

Where is the drawing even leaked from, is it part of the Epstein files or what's the story?

I don't think it has been released yet

[Lakers Legend#32]

Major dilemma for Poopsie and his merry band of IHS MAGA Fat Pack.

1. Do they admit that the liberals were right about Trump?

or

2. Do they continue to support a pedo president?

Have you all not been paying attention for the last ten years?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Your average Gen-Zer doesn’t know that until 2007, Republicans had a pedophile — Dennis Hastert — as Speaker of the House.

Then there’s Roy Moore, Matt Gaetz, and Jim Jordan. All have a pedo scandal.

That’s a pattern.

[warriorfan]

Yea, let's wait until after he's elected president to release an incredibly damning piece of evidence. Also, let's wait until the Epstein becomes the #1 media story because we have a crystal ball and know for certain that's going to happen.

:lol

[Patrick Chewing]

Yea, let's wait until after he's elected president to release an incredibly damning piece of evidence. Also, let's wait until the Epstein becomes the #1 media story because we have a crystal ball and know for certain that's going to happen.

These people are idiots :oldlol:

[diamenz]

if trump would have just said that the Democrats destroyed all of the evidence, would you have bought it? at the least it would have been a much better political strategy than the route he's taken. it would have put up quite the brick wall anyway.

[Lakers Legend#32]

These people are idiots :oldlol:

Poopsie's retorts are getting lamer and lamer.

[ArbitraryWater]

There is a third option.... but it would take too long to explain, but it goes along the lines that this all well crafted calculated political theater.

5D chess deception that goes beyond the average person's comprehension.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3c/By_Way_of_Deception.jpg/250px-By_Way_of_Deception.jpg


Are you refering to prophecy being played out?

And is that book about that or why did you clip it?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Poopsie Protector of Pedophile Presidents

[Lakers Legend#32]

MAGAS Attempted Epstein Distraction List:

--Autopen

--Rosie O'Donnell Citizenship

--Coke Cane Sugar

--Russia Gate

--Indonesia "Trade Deal"

--Hoax

--Obama Did It.

--Trump Health Update

This scandal is going into it's third week and none of these distractions are working.

Keep defending you're pedo boyz.

[ArbitraryWater]

The old hag is begging for a reply. Maybe on her period

[Jasper]

name this text ---


file:///C:/Users/owner/Downloads/dumpster%20the%20pedafiler.mhtml

[Jasper]

name this text ---


file:///C:/Users/owner/Downloads/dumpster%20the%20pedafiler.mhtml

[Doomsday Dallas]

Are you refering to prophecy being played out?

And is that book about that or why did you clip it?


I'm just saying that deception goes way beyond what any of us realize.

we all talk about "the deep state".... but the deep state isn't what any of us imagine it to be.

[Lakers Legend#32]

MAGAS: Protect the billionaires and pedophiles.

[BurningHammer]

I like this thread's exponential growth since 2 weeks ago. :kobe:

[TheMan]

Rumors are Jizzlane released the bday love letter the Don sent to his pedo pal Epstein, just as a reminder she has a lot more incriminating shit in her arsenal...Trump gon' def pardon dat ass (he was already thinking about that during his first term before being talked out of it by advisors)...MAGA with more mental gymnastics, Bawler234 making up more excuses how Trump ain't a pedo rapist :lol

Google John Casablancas, yep...Trump and this pedo homie were partying it up with underage beauty queens. Trump is a sex predator, immoral POS, if you still cool with it, that says more about you than him.

[TheMan]

MAGAS: Protect the billionaires and pedophiles.

Worse than democrats, but MAGA idiots think otherwise :lol

[Lakers Legend#32]

And now Trump has done quite possibly the dumbest thing in his life.

He is suing his sugar daddy Rupert Murdoch for $20 billion dollars.

Fat Donny has just guaranteed that the Epstein story will live forever.

[TheMan]

Epstein's lawyer died. He was 80 but the timing couldn't be worse for Trump and all the conspiracy theorists lol

[TeflonDonTrump]

We need these files released asap.

Implicate everyone on there, including Trump. We need transparency. While we are there, make sure to get Barry, Killary, Bill, and Bill

[Norcaliblunt]

We need these files released asap.

Implicate everyone on there, including Trump. We need transparency. While we are there, make sure to get Barry, Killary, Bill, and Bill

Lmao!!!!!

Y’all are such novice idiots its hilarious.

Your favorite politicians and celebrities use prostitutes!!!!

lol.

[highwhey]

at this point, you have to be a mouthbreather to think trump isn't implicated. the republicans are doing everything they can to keep it quiet.


Johnson Cuts Short House Business to Avoid Vote on Releasing Epstein Files
The Republican speaker truncated the legislative schedule for the week ahead of a summer recess, moving to deny Democrats the chance to force votes on whether to release the Epstein material.

[TheMan]

Lmao!!!!!

Y’all are such novice idiots its hilarious.

Your favorite politicians and celebrities use prostitutes!!!!

lol.

Nothing wrong with that except if she's being trafficked and or underage.

Our pal Trump used to throw underage sex parties at his mansion using the girls from his pageants...again, Google John Casablancas, known pedo and a Trump homie. Luther Campbell, AKA Uncle Luke, 90s rapper claimed he was at a sex party thrown at Trump's mansion and saw sex with underage women and drug use, he left because he felt uncomfortable. This story ain't going anywhere and the more the GOP and Trump tries to cover it up, the worse it looks on them.

[TeflonDonTrump]

Lmao!!!!!

Y’all are such novice idiots its hilarious.

Your favorite politicians and celebrities use prostitutes!!!!

lol.

so you don't care for the file?

you don't care about underaged kids?

[bladefd]

at this point, you have to be a mouthbreather to think trump isn't implicated. the republicans are doing everything they can to keep it quiet.

Everyone already knew this, but it's confirmed by a whistleblower today.

"Bondi Alerted Trump He Was Named in Epstein Files. Attorney General Pam Bondi informed President Trump in the spring that his name appeared in the Jeffrey Epstein files, according to people with knowledge of the exchange."

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/23/trump-epstein-wsj-report-doj-bondi-00471968

Pedo Trump?

[Bill Gates]

I do not think that this one is ever just going to fade away for Trump. He is just a known pedophile now. I suppose his best play is to just spend the next 4 years claiming conspiracy theories that no one believes and play out his term.

I do wonder if those around him are starting to question themselves though. If Bondi was informed that Trump is listed, not sure how she can continue going to work each day and hold her head up.

[j3lademaster]

We need these files released asap.

Implicate everyone on there, including Trump. We need transparency. While we are there, make sure to get Barry, Killary, Bill, and Bill

Preach, Carl.

[diamenz]

Today, Americans confront their own anxieties about elite power and accountability. The scandal surrounding Jeffrey Epstein did not end with his death in a federal jail cell; it metastasized. The unsealed flight logs, the controversial 2008 plea deal, and the inexplicable leniency shown by successive administrations suggest a bipartisan protection racket shielding a network that spans Clintonworld, Silicon Valley, and Mar-a-Lago, as investigative journalist Julie K. Brown has documented.

President Donald Trump’s association with Epstein—limited to overlapping social circles in the 1990s and a 2002 New York magazine quote calling Epstein a “terrific guy”—is not evidence of criminality. But it is evidence of a class problem. When the ruling elite’s social calendar overlaps with that of a convicted sex offender, voters inevitably draw conclusions about the moral fabric of those in power.

As Matt Taibbi observed in Griftopia (2010), American media often shields the wealthy from direct criticism unless legal consequences arise. Epstein’s case, amplified by his connection to Trump, has thus struck a particularly sensitive chord, exposing the deep distrust many Americans feel toward an elite perceived as operating above the law.

---------------------------------------

Washington is hurtling toward a sovereign debt crisis, escalating foreign wars, and potential domestic unrest without a clear path forward. While President Trump did not create these challenges alone, he now bears responsibility for addressing them. His campaign promises of accountability, transparency, and fiscal reform have yet to be realized. The proverbial buck stops with his administration.

Like the Parisians of 1789, Americans respond powerfully to appeals that honor virtue and condemn vice. It would be a grave mistake for Trump to ignore the impact of the Epstein scandal, especially as it coincides with his administration’s failure to fulfill key campaign pledges.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/versailles-on-the-potomac/

[Patrick Chewing]

Nothing wrong with that except if she's being trafficked and or underage.

Our pal Trump used to throw underage sex parties at his mansion using the girls from his pageants...again, Google John Casablancas, known pedo and a Trump homie. Luther Campbell, AKA Uncle Luke, 90s rapper claimed he was at a sex party thrown at Trump's mansion and saw sex with underage women and drug use, he left because he felt uncomfortable. This story ain't going anywhere and the more the GOP and Trump tries to cover it up, the worse it looks on them.

Where is the evidence?

[highwhey]

Where is the evidence?

i don't have your medical file stating your weight, but we know without a shadow of a doubt, that you do indeed weigh 400 pounds.

[Lebron23]

Stumbled across it on Twitter. I personally just think the Katie Johnson story is real, but that one at least seems plausible.

Trump is a piece of $hit for raping that 13 years old girl.

[diamenz]

House committee votes to subpoena Justice Department for Jeffrey Epstein files (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-committee-votes-to-subpoena-justice-department-for-epstein-files/)

this is significant news...


Washington — A House committee on Wednesday voted to subpoena the Justice Department for files related to the investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, as Republican leaders have resisted action on the issue.

Democrats on a subcommittee for the House Oversight panel forced a vote on the subpoena, and three Republicans voted alongside Democratic members. House GOP leaders have opposed a separate measure that would force the Justice Department to release materials on Epstein, and President Trump has urged his supporters to move beyond the issue.

The motion to subpoena the Justice Department, which was offered by Democratic Rep. Summer Lee of Pennsylvania, passed in an 8-2 vote. Republican Reps. Nancy Mace of South Carolina, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania and Brian Jack of Georgia voted in favor.

Republicans amended the subpoena to also include Epstein-related communications between former President Joe Biden, Biden administration officials and the Justice Department.

The subcommittee also approved by voice vote subpoenas for former President Bill Clinton; former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; former FBI directors James Comey and Robert Mueller; and former attorneys general Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Merrick Garland, William Barr, Jeff Sessions and Alberto Gonzales. The motion was introduced by Perry.

"The American people want to know what's in that file," Lee said. "The American people want transparency. At the end of the day, we have to send a message that whether you are the littlest guy or you are the most powerful person in this nation, that if you commit a crime, if you do things that we aren't supposed to do, that there will be some accountability."

Republican Rep. James Comer of Kentucky, the House Oversight Committee chairman, will issue the subpoenas in the future, a committee aide told CBS News. Comer was not present for the subcommittee votes.

In the past, the Justice Department has sought to avoid handing over information about criminal investigations to Congress.

The Epstein case has drawn more attention in recent weeks, since a Justice Department and FBI review asserted that Epstein had no incriminating "client list" and died by suicide in federal custody.

Earlier Wednesday, Comer subpoenaed Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell to sit for a deposition as fallout over the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein case intensifies. Maxwell was convicted in 2021 for her role in helping Epstein recruit, groom and abuse underage girls. She is serving a 20-year prison sentence. Epstein died in federal custody in 2019 as he faced sex trafficking charges.

The Trump administration has been under pressure to release more information on Epstein. Last week, the Justice Department asked judges to unseal grand jury transcripts on Epstein and Maxwell's cases. Those requests need to be reviewed by federal courts, and a judge in Florida earlier Wednesday denied a request to unseal grand jury records for investigations into Epstein in the 2000s.

[warriorfan]

at this point, you have to be a mouthbreather to think trump isn't implicated. the republicans are doing everything they can to keep it quiet.

You posted about doing cocaine at a daycare and thirsted over some retard 14 year old looking white bitch

We all know who the pedo here is

[BigKobeFan]

You posted about doing cocaine at a daycare and thirsted over some retard 14 year old looking white bitch

We all know who the pedo here is:oldlol:

[TheMan]

We need these files released asap.

Implicate everyone on there, including Trump. We need transparency. While we are there, make sure to get Barry, Killary, Bill, and Bill

Da fuq you talking about? Obama has never been mentioned in this shit, neither Hillary, if Clinton and Gates are, imprison these degenerates, but let's also imprison Trump, pedos are literally the worst of the worse, no one should be above the law.

[TheMan]

I do not think that this one is ever just going to fade away for Trump. He is just a known pedophile now. I suppose his best play is to just spend the next 4 years claiming conspiracy theories that no one believes and play out his term.

I do wonder if those around him are starting to question themselves though. If Bondi was informed that Trump is listed, not sure how she can continue going to work each day and hold her head up.

What we want to know is...what does the Mossad have on this degenerate POS we elected as POTUS? If he's compromised, then he shouldn't be any where near the levers of powers, he needs to be immediately arrested and removed from office. It's no wonder Bibi plays this weakling like a puppet, they have some serious dark shit on this pervert and he's acting on behest of a foreign nation instead of the best interests of the homeland. The files need to be released ASAP and expose this pedo rapist once and for all...

Then let all the MAGA idiots like Chewing, Bawler, AW, warriorfan do all the mental gymnastics they want to cover up for Daddy Trump...pathetic pieces of human trash.

[TheMan]

https://youtu.be/UR7h4IHwz
fE?si=b1R9hJzQXj-Yohl1
LMAO

Bawler making up excuses rn :roll:

[TheMan]

Trump was informed by the FBI that he indeed appears on the Epstein files (shocker). The House oversight subcommittee has issued a subpoena to the DOJ to release all the files, even got support from Republicans and Trump's DOJ to meet with Jizzlaine Maxwell later today, wonder what they'll offer her to keep quiet...

Dis getting guder :lol

[Off the Court]

No one is going to buy whatever it is that Maxwell throws out. It is very difficult to imagine her throwing Trump under the bus, unless she just wishes death upon herself.

[TheMan]

No one is going to buy whatever it is that Maxwell throws out. It is very difficult to imagine her throwing Trump under the bus, unless she just wishes death upon herself.

Yep, they're gonna offer her her freedom if she keeps quiet and says that Trump never partook in all the orgies with teen beauty pageant contestants that were held in his mansion. Ain't no one gonna buy that and if you do, you're an inbred MAGA mouthbreather.

[bladefd]

Yep, they're gonna offer her her freedom if she keeps quiet and says that Trump never partook in all the orgies with teen beauty pageant contestants that were held in his mansion. Ain't no one gonna buy that and if you do, you're an inbred MAGA mouthbreather.

We have plenty of those sheep here who will buy anything Donald and his thugs tell them.

[Overdrive]

Yep, they're gonna offer her her freedom if she keeps quiet and says that Trump never partook in all the orgies with teen beauty pageant contestants that were held in his mansion. Ain't no one gonna buy that and if you do, you're an inbred MAGA mouthbreather.

Pardoning Maxwell no matter how its done will damage Trump's credibility even further. Doubt they'll release her.

[Off the Court]

Pardoning Maxwell no matter how its done will damage Trump's credibility even further. Doubt they'll release her.

Yeah I think it will be more of a "say this or else" situation. But it is possible they could promise her something years down the road when they believe things have blown over.

[TheMan]

Pardoning Maxwell no matter how its done will damage Trump's credibility even further. Doubt they'll release her.

They're not gonna release her right now, that would be way too sketchy but she'll probably be told Trump will pardon her and move her to a minimum security prison, basically a vacation spot :lol

Trump already wanted to pardon her during his first term, there's nothing anyone can do if he does and rn she's the one who sink his ass with all the dirt she and Epstein had on him. If she winds up dead under weird circumstances, everyone will believe she was wacked by the Don so I think that's off the table but you never know...

[Bill Gates]

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1948475314658836786


:oldlol:

[j3lademaster]

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1948475314658836786


:oldlol:

Never trust a man that wears 4 inch lifts.

[TheMan]

MAGA abandoned this thread, their silence is deafening :roll:

[Baller234]

MAGA abandoned this thread, their silence is deafening :roll:

Look at this little girl vying for attention.

If we respond to you guys, we're Trump bootlickers. If we don't respond to you guys, we're shameful cowards.

Your mind is already made up anyway so why do you even care what we have to think? You might as well keep sucking each other off. :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

usual suspects spending their whole day fantasizing about donald
trump having sex with children yet again


totally not mentally ill or anything

[TheMan]

Yep, attack the messenger instead of pushing back on the subject at hand...and why is that? Because they know Trump is a pedo :roll:

[Baller234]

What is there to push back on? Your mind is already made up.

[RRR3]

Please stop insulting my Dumpy Wumpy :cry:
:oldlol:

[Baller234]

3tard has anyone ever told you you're a pretty funny guy?

Maybe you should moonlight as a standup comedian. It would supplement your low income. I'm sure your "Trump's a pedo" bit would slay.

[TheMan]

What is there to push back on? Your mind is already made up.

Nah, not just me...everyone but the hardcore MAGA cult has made up their minds due to Trump's cover up...common sense broski...we know that dude has some really dark shit in those files, fukking Eastern bloc underage teens in the early 90s with his pal Jeffrey. Otherwise he would have released them. Have have with the mental gymnastics though :lol

[Baller234]

Nah, not just me...everyone but the hardcore MAGA cult has made up their minds due to Trump's cover up...common sense broski...we know that dude has some really dark shit in those files, fukking Eastern bloc underage teens in the early 90s with his pal Jeffrey. Otherwise he would have released them. Have have with the mental gymnastics though :lol

This is a self own.

If simply covering up the files is proof of pedo involvement, then congratulations on supporting pedophiles all throughout Brandon's term. And that's not even getting into his naked showers with his daughter.

I'm glad you're against pedophilia and child abuse, I just think it's awfully strange you don't care when it involves democrats.

[warriorfan]

Nah, not just me...everyone but the hardcore MAGA cult has made up their minds due to Trump's cover up...common sense broski...we know that dude has some really dark shit in those files, fukking Eastern bloc underage teens in the early 90s with his pal Jeffrey. Otherwise he would have released them. Have have with the mental gymnastics though :lol
insane projection :lol

[TheMan]

insane projection :lol

Is it?


https://youtube.com/shorts/2mpTy2cYDpA?si=nx-TDAjBLsp255av

Oh dat niggah guilty af :roll:

[warriorfan]

Is it?


https://youtube.com/shorts/2mpTy2cYDpA?si=nx-TDAjBLsp255av

Oh dat niggah guilty af :roll:

I ain’t clicking that shit

Go **** your cousin

[TheMan]

I ain’t clicking that shit

Go **** your cousin

It's from a deposition where Epstein is specifically asked if he was ever in the presence of under aged teens with Donald Trump at their "parties" and he refuses to answer, he takes the 5th mobster style...and stop pretending you didn't click on the link, ****** lol

[Baller234]

It's from a deposition where Epstein is specifically asked if he was ever in the presence of under aged teens with Donald Trump at their "parties" and he refuses to answer, he takes the 5th mobster style...and stop pretending you didn't click on the link, ****** lol

This is a shameless lie. That wasn't the question at all. There was not a single reference to any party. So right off the bat you're already lying and misrepresenting your own video.

The exact question was "Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?"

Zero reference to parties, zero reference to any type of physical act. In fact the question isn't even the slightest bit incriminating. If you are at a wedding and teen females are present, that means you are socializing in the presence of teen females.

A lot of people on the left are ignorant and stupid so they can't help but sound like autistic dumb fukks, but you're a bad faith actor and a liar to boot.

[Baller234]

Trump drops names when asked about Epstein

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1948744096455295232

"You ought to be talking about Larry Summers…. or Bill Clinton, who went to the island 28 times. I never went to the island.”

[TheMan]

This is a shameless lie. That wasn't the question at all. There was not a single reference to any party. So right off the bat you're already lying and misrepresenting your own video.

The exact question was "Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?"

Zero reference to parties, zero reference to any type of physical act. In fact the question isn't even the slightest bit incriminating. If you are at a wedding and teen females are present, that means you are socializing in the presence of teen females.

A lot of people on the left are ignorant and stupid so they can't help but sound like autistic dumb fukks, but you're a bad faith actor and a liar to boot.

Luther Campbell AKA Uncle Luke, 90s rapper, confirmed the fact that he was invited to Trump's mansion and he witnessed underage teens having sex and taking drugs...too easy.

Next


https://youtu.be/1IRN0cxkXVM?si=bl5FX2C7g5SQ4ojv

[Baller234]

Luther Campbell AKA Uncle Luke, 90s rapper, confirmed the fact that he was invited to Trump's mansion and he witnessed underage teens having sex and taking drugs...too easy.

You still lied and misrepresented your video.

But I really do appreciate you keeping it consistent as always. So Ashley Biden's daughter writes in her own diary that her father was taking naked showers with her when she was 7-9 years old, and you didn't make a single post or thread about it.

But a random rapper who just so happens to have TDS makes a totally unverifiable claim about Trump from 30+ years ago and that's enough for you to jump out the window.

[TheMan]

You still lied and misrepresented your video.

But I really do appreciate you keeping it consistent as always. So Ashley Biden's daughter writes in her own diary that her father was taking naked showers with her when she was 7-9 years old, and you didn't make a single post or thread about it.

But a random rapper who just so happens to have TDS makes a totally unverifiable claim about Trump from 30+ years ago and that's enough for you to jump out the window.

You're straight up in denial :roll:

[Off the Court]

You still lied and misrepresented your video.

But I really do appreciate you keeping it consistent as always. So Ashley Biden's daughter writes in her own diary that her father was taking naked showers with her when she was 7-9 years old, and you didn't make a single post or thread about it.

But a random rapper who just so happens to have TDS makes a totally unverifiable claim about Trump from 30+ years ago and that's enough for you to jump out the window.

First off Biden seeing his own daughter naked isn't shit compared to what Trump did, but second, how the f@#k would you know what he was or wasn't posting about back then? Did you scan all of his past posts?

[Baller234]

First off Biden seeing his own daughter naked isn't shit compared to what Trump did, but second, how the f@#k would you know what he was or wasn't posting about back then? Did you scan all of his past posts?

Uh, we don't know what Orange Face did actually. We can only speculate. Maybe he did nothing at all. Meanwhile we have strong evidence suggesting that Brandon took naked showers with his adolescent daughter.

Trump made a joke about how attractive his daughter was and you guys used it as fuel for 9 years.

[highwhey]

Uh, we don't know what Orange Face did actually. We can only speculate. Maybe he did nothing at all. Meanwhile we have strong evidence suggesting that Brandon took naked showers with his adolescent daughter.

Trump made a joke about how attractive his daughter was and you guys used it as fuel for 9 years.

he didn't do anything? are you stupid?

he's blocking the release of the files, at the very least, he's complicit in protecting PDF Files you fukking retard.

[Baller234]

"Hey Siri, can you show me how many times TheMan and Off The Court posted about Jeffrey Epstein and/or Ashley Biden's diary from any point during 2020-2024?..."

[Baller234]

he didn't do anything? are you stupid?

he's blocking the release of the files, at the very least, he's complicit in protecting PDF Files you fukking retard.

Both sides were blocking the release of the files.

[highwhey]

Both sides were blocking the release of the files.

then both sides are complicit. what now b1tch? you've been working 24/7 to protect ya daddy trump. here's a napkin, clean his jizz of your damn mouth

https://media.istockphoto.com/id/851169420/photo/hand-holding-paper-napkin-isolated-on-white-background-with-clipping-path.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=7M_7p2uPfXCs1mjFvARumDvHpdd77l0OuPkfGzkeEGc=

[Baller234]

then both sides are complicit. what now b1tch? you've been working 24/7 to protect ya daddy trump. here's a napkin, clean his jizz of your damn mouth

https://media.istockphoto.com/id/851169420/photo/hand-holding-paper-napkin-isolated-on-white-background-with-clipping-path.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=7M_7p2uPfXCs1mjFvARumDvHpdd77l0OuPkfGzkeEGc=

Right, both sides are complicit in the coverup. It doesn't mean that anyone who's complicit in the coverup physically abused children. Brandon and The Cackler were complicit but I don't recall anyone accusing them in partaking.

Trump's not my daddy, he's yours. That's why you're so emotional right now. You have daddy issues.

[Off the Court]

https://lifeofanaspieweb.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/new-understanding-the-stages-of-grief-seven-stages.png



Baller is still somewhat in denial, but is also in the "bargaining" stage knowing that Trump is guilty. His "bargain" is "but let's agree that Dems are guilty too please!"

The problem with his bargain is that the left is like "okay bruh! Dems are guilty too!" and Baller is going to have to come to terms with the fact that the bargain isn't really the bargain he wanted.

[Hey Yo]

then both sides are complicit. what now b1tch? you've been working 24/7 to protect ya daddy trump. here's a napkin, clean his jizz of your damn mouth

https://media.istockphoto.com/id/851169420/photo/hand-holding-paper-napkin-isolated-on-white-background-with-clipping-path.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=7M_7p2uPfXCs1mjFvARumDvHpdd77l0OuPkfGzkeEGc=

LOL @ unhinged you are right now :roll:

[diamenz]

https://lifeofanaspieweb.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/new-understanding-the-stages-of-grief-seven-stages.png



Baller is still somewhat in denial, but is also in the "bargaining" stage knowing that Trump is guilty. His "bargain" is "but let's agree that Dems are guilty too please!"

The problem with his bargain is that the left is like "okay bruh! Dems are guilty too!" and Baller is going to have to come to terms with the fact that the bargain isn't really the bargain he wanted.

there's no proof that trump sexed underage girls. we don't know the context of why he's on the list. it's possible and it's certainly unnerving but your and other liberals' assumptions are just wishful thinking right now.

[Baller234]

Baller is still somewhat in denial, but is also in the "bargaining" stage knowing that Trump is guilty. His "bargain" is "but let's agree that Dems are guilty too please!"

The problem with his bargain is that the left is like "okay bruh! Dems are guilty too!" and Baller is going to have to come to terms with the fact that the bargain isn't really a bargain.

That's a great bargain actually. I would gladly sacrifice Trump if it meant destroying all of your woke idols.

You're sadly mistaken. Our side never voted for Trump because we thought he was some saint. That never factored into the equation. We voted for him because of his policies. It was an argument for common sense. YOU guys made it all about moral principle. YOU guys made it about character. YOU guys claimed to be the morally righteous puritans who would show everyone the virtuous path to enlightenment.

"Brandon might have been a dementia ridden boob, but at least he's not as evil as Trump. The Cackler might not be capable of putting more than three sentences together without sounding like an autistic retard, but at least she's not as evil as Trump. We're on The Right Side Of History(TM)."

Our side can move on from Trump. If by some chance it were revealed that Trump was a child abuser, it would be devastating sure but the agenda would just live on through someone else. The ideals and policies would remain. Meanwhile everything you modeled your personas on would come crumbling down. It would mean you're the evil fukked up scumbags you pretended that Trumpers were.

:oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

Trump drops names when asked about Epstein

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1948744096455295232

"You ought to be talking about Larry Summers…. or Bill Clinton, who went to the island 28 times. I never went to the island.”

Crickets from the Clinton loving Dumbocrats

[Off the Court]

there's no proof that trump sexed underage girls. we don't know the context of why he's on the list. it's possible and it's certainly unnerving but your and other liberals' assumptions are just wishful thinking right now.

Yeah and there is no PROOF that OJ killed anyone either. :oldlol:

You're still in the denial stage as well. But I do think you'll fly past the other stages at some point. You may do a little bargaining, but no where near the level of depression that Baller and Chewing and others will go through.

[Baller234]

For 10 years the debate between team red and team blue has basically boiled down to:

Team Red: "Our policies are better..."

Team Blue: "Our leaders are better..."


So if by some chance the files became unsealed and the whole house of cards came tumbling down, including Trump, team blue has a lot more to lose. If the leaders of team blue are just as evil then it totally nullifies their entire argument.

I think you woke libs should be extremely careful of what you wish for.

[Baller234]

Yeah and there is no PROOF that OJ killed anyone either. :oldlol:

You're still in the denial stage as well. But I do think you'll fly past the other stages at some point. You may do a little bargaining, but no where near the level of depression that Baller and Chewing and others will go through.

I swear on everything that I love I would gladly sacrifice Trump if it meant bringing down the down the deep state and destroying woke leftism for good.

Can you say the same?

[Off the Court]

For 10 years the debate between team red and team blue has basically boiled down to:

Team Red: "Our policies are better..."

Team Blue: "Our leaders are better..."


So if by some chance the files became unsealed and the whole house of cards came tumbling down, including Trump, team blue has a lot more to lose. If the leaders of team blue are just as evil then it totally nullifies their entire argument.

I think you woke libs should be extremely careful of what you wish for.

OKAY :roll:


Yeah, we were all about Biden and our leaders, and MAGA was never about Trump, just the policies.

This is another bargain, because you don't like your other bargain any more.



At some point, you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that Trump is a complete and utter failure and a stain on US history.

[Off the Court]

I swear on everything that I love I would gladly sacrifice Trump if it meant bringing down the down the deep state and destroying woke leftism for good.

Can you say the same?

The Dems are 100% out right now. You got that. Trump in office, all of Congress is GOP, and even the Supreme Court is GOP.

How can it be brought down any more than that?

And no, I for one understand that the two sides keep each other in check and are both needed to prevent falling into extremism.

[diamenz]

Yeah and there is no PROOF that OJ killed anyone either. :oldlol:

You're still in the denial stage as well. But I do think you'll fly past the other stages at some point. You may do a little bargaining, but no where near the level of depression that Baller and Chewing and others will go through.

what is it that has you so convinced that he's indeed a pedophile?

[Off the Court]

what is it that has you so convinced that he's indeed a pedophile?

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[diamenz]

I swear on everything that I love I would gladly sacrifice Trump if it meant bringing down the down the deep state and destroying woke leftism for good.

Can you say the same?

trump is now a part of the 'deep state'. trump has joined the uniparty - he can no longer be considered as an "outsider". the epstein fiasco, a biden 2.0 foreign policy and subserviency to his donors to cut taxes on their behalf, all destroy his credibility in that regard.

[diamenz]

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well?

[Off the Court]

well?

Well what? there are 40+ pages of it debated in here on it. I'm not going to reiterate it all for you. It's pretty f@3king obvious at this point, the writing is on the wall. Just ask Elon Musk.

[Off the Court]

The very first reply in here was me saying Trump is listed because it was obvious BEFORE all this shit with Musk and him refusing to release the list even went down :oldlol:

[TheMan]

Crickets from the Clinton loving Dumbocrats

As far as I know, we don't have any Bill Clinton fans here, boomer. I wasn't of his triangulation political ideas, he was GOP lite and a sexual predator...and pals with Trump, fukk him.

[Baller234]

Yeah, we were all about Biden and our leaders

Correct.

You guys bent over backwards so you can continue to support your leaders. It was never about policy or even competence with you. In fact I'm pretty sure you've admitted proudly that the only reason you supported Biden was because he wasn't Trump.

Your entire political identity is "anyone but Trump". That's fanaticism. You're so convinced that Trump is Satan that you'll slurp anyone who stands in his way.

So if it ever did come out that everyone in Washington is a demon pedophile, including prominent leaders on both sides, that's going to be way worse for you than us. We can survive on our policies and principles, but without being able to claim moral superiority you guys have nothing.

[Baller234]

As far as I know, we don't have any Bill Clinton fans here, boomer. I wasn't of his triangulation political ideas, he was GOP lite and a sexual predator...and pals with Trump, fukk him.

Democrats worshiped the ground Hillary walked on and claimed America was sexist and bigoted because she didn't win.

Bill Clinton gave a speech at the last DNC and was given a hero's welcome.

[Off the Court]

Correct.

You guys bent over backwards so you can continue to support your leaders. It was never about policy or even competence with you. In fact I'm pretty sure you've admitted proudly that the only reason you supported Biden was because he wasn't Trump.

Your entire political identity is "anyone but Trump". That's fanaticism. You're so convinced that Trump is Satan that you'll slurp anyone who stands in his way.

So if it ever did come out that everyone in Washington is a demon pedophile, including prominent leaders on both sides, that's going to be way worse for you than us. We can survive on our policies and principles, but without being able to claim moral superiority you guys have nothing.

This entire thing conflicts with itself, so "CORRECT" we were all about our leaders and "bent over backwards" to support them. But our entire political identity is "anyone but Trump"?

https://i0.wp.com/media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif?ssl=1


Go back to the drawing board, and come up with a more logical bargain.

[Baller234]

Yes, you bent over backwards to support Biden.

You pretended he was smart, pretended he was capable, pretended he wasn't corrupt, pretended he wasn't a liar, pretended he never took naked showers with his daughter, pretended he didn't keep the lid on Epstein, pretended he didn't have dementia...etc.

You jumped through hoops of fire to support that man all because of your hatred for Orange Face.

[Off the Court]

We didn't care about Biden or pretend he was Superman like you are saying. We just knew he was the better option over Orange Face.

You really just need to stick with same tired old TDS stuff, because the idea that we only wanted Trump out but at the same time thought Biden was flawless makes no sense.

[Baller234]

We didn't care about Biden or pretend he was Superman like you are saying. We just knew he was the better option over Orange Face.

You really just need to stick with same tired old TDS stuff, because the idea that we only wanted Trump out but at the same time thought Biden was flawless makes no sense.

Of course. You were perfectly fine turning a blind eye to the whole Epstein thing, as well as Ashley's diary, because you were blinded and caught up in your anti-Trump fanaticism.

But what happens when it turns out all the people you supported were evil pedos?

[Off the Court]

No one turned a blind eye to Epstein, he was very heavily debated and talked about during the Biden admin. :oldlol:

Epstein has been a HUGE topic over the past decade or so.

Biden himself has never been linked to Epstein though, so the same dynamic as this current situation was not present.

[warriorfan]

Yes, you bent over backwards to support Biden.

You pretended he was smart, pretended he was capable, pretended he wasn't corrupt, pretended he wasn't a liar, pretended he never took naked showers with his daughter, pretended he didn't keep the lid on Epstein, pretended he didn't have dementia...etc.

You jumped through hoops of fire to support that man all because of your hatred for Orange Face.

:roll:

these guys need therapy

[Baller234]

No one turned a blind eye to Epstein, he was very heavily debated and talked about during the Biden admin. :oldlol:

Epstein has been a HUGE topic over the past decade or so.

Biden himself has never been linked to Epstein though, so the same dynamic as this current situation was not present.

"Hey Siri, is there a way you can show me how posts were made by Off The Court where he demanded more transparency on Jeffrey Epstein from any time during 2020-2024?..."

[Doomsday Dallas]

Are you guys still talking about Epstein?

[Doomsday Dallas]

Are you guys still talking about Epstein?

[Off the Court]

Are you guys still talking about Epstein?

You were saying earlier in this thread that the left should beat this drum forever and then you accused CNN of not talking about it enough. :oldlol:


Epstein will be trending indefinitely. Or until the files are released. Nope wait, even after the files are released Epstein will be trending a while.

[diamenz]

You were saying earlier in this thread that the left should beat this drum forever and then you accused CNN of not talking about it enough. :oldlol:


Epstein will be trending indefinitely. Or until the files are released. Nope wait, even after the files are released Epstein will be trending a while.

he's joking.

[Off the Court]

he's joking.

https://y.yarn.co/8aa3d53c-94dc-40ee-9e90-f50f265147ba_text.gif

[Lakers Legend#32]

Are you guys still talking about Epstein?

White House talking point

[ZenMaster]

No one turned a blind eye to Epstein, he was very heavily debated and talked about during the Biden admin. :oldlol:

Epstein has been a HUGE topic over the past decade or so.

Biden himself has never been linked to Epstein though, so the same dynamic as this current situation was not present.

No dem politicians made a stink about Epstein when Biden or Obama was in power and neither did any of you dems here on ish. You're so full of shit it's amazing, all you've ever done is post the same 10 pics of them, pics from public events when they used to be friends.

[warriorfan]

Off the Hinge has posted close to 150 times in this thread.

:roll:

[Off the Court]

No dem politicians made a stink about Epstein when Biden or Obama was in power and neither did any of you dems here on ish. You're so full of shit it's amazing, all you've ever done is post the same 10 pics of them, pics from public events when they used to be friends.

No one, including yourself expected them to be released. If Biden or Obama had said "WE ARE BRINGING OUT THE FILES!!!!" and then danced around Phase 1 while promising a Phase 2. Only for Obama or Biden to say "Epstein!!?!?!! you guys are still talking about Epstein!!!???" Then it would be this exact same debacle, although probably less so because neither Biden nor Obama has been seen or linked to Epstein.

Not that any of the tribalism of what we were doing or saying matters here lol

[Off the Court]

Off the Hinge has posted close to 150 times in this thread.

:roll:

150 posts? You've been here since 2010 :roll:

[warriorfan]

150 posts? You've been here since 2010 :roll:

What does that have to do with you obsessing about donald trump all day :lol

You’re weird bro

[Off the Court]

What does that have to do with you obsessing about donald trump all day :lol

You’re weird bro

Stop with TDS take, it's been trending on Twitter forever now. Our POTUS has been revealed as a pedo and everyone is and SHOULD be talking about it.

[Off the Court]

239K tweets on Ghislaine Maxwell just today.

#1 most tweeted thing today


The #2 most tweeted item? #Scotland 127K

Because today Trump is flying to Scotland and there are massive anti-Trump protests.

[TheMan]

239K tweets on Ghislaine Maxwell just today.

#1 most tweeted thing today


The #2 most tweeted item? #Scotland 127K

Because today Trump is flying to Scotland and there are massive anti-Trump protests.

He's gonna pardon her, bro. He was asked and didn't discount it immediately, he said he could if he wanted to...that dude has some very dark shit in his past that she knows about, and more importantly, has proof of...:roll: If the Epstein files get buried and never see the light of day but she's pardoned, you know that dude is guilty af but the same MAGA idiots will deny it until their dying day, bunch of pedo cucks haha

[diamenz]

i'll tell you one thing. i'm about as tired as *uck of the politics trump is playing in regard to this subject. he really does think we're all morons.

i can't fathom how anyone can support this guy or stay emotionally involved in him after how he's talked down on everyone that's backed him up to this point. you've gotta be some masochist to do so.

[warriorfan]

239K tweets on Ghislaine Maxwell just today.

#1 most tweeted thing today


The #2 most tweeted item? #Scotland 127K

Because today Trump is flying to Scotland and there are massive anti-Trump protests.

You and thebeaner need to get a life

You little dick dudes are embarrassing

[highwhey]

i'll tell you one thing. i'm about as tired as *uck of the politics trump is playing in regard to this subject. he really does think we're all morons.

i can't fathom how anyone can support this guy or stay emotionally involved in him after how he's talked down on everyone that's backed him up to this point. you've gotta be some masochist to do so.
@bawler @patrickchewing

[RRR3]

@bawler @patrickchewing
Forgot warriorfan

[warriorfan]

Forgot warriorfan

existence is pain

[RRR3]

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[ZenMaster]

No one, including yourself expected them to be released. If Biden or Obama had said "WE ARE BRINGING OUT THE FILES!!!!" and then danced around Phase 1 while promising a Phase 2. Only for Obama or Biden to say "Epstein!!?!?!! you guys are still talking about Epstein!!!???" Then it would be this exact same debacle, although probably less so because neither Biden nor Obama has been seen or linked to Epstein.

Not that any of the tribalism of what we were doing or saying matters here lol

It's been scrubbed from the internet so people like you will think that Epsteins only connection was Trump even though they probably haven't spoken for 15 years, but Obama and Biden are connected at least through dem super donors Reid Hoffman and Bill Gates who were donating heavily while Obama and Biden were doing absolutely nothing about Esptein.

[TheMan]

You and thebeaner need to get a life

You little dick dudes are embarrassing

Puhleaze stop talking about my daddy Trump you mean beaner :cry: He's a pedo but I would find it an honor to suck his tiny pecker when I was 15, absolutely no problems...warriorfan :lol

You degenerate white trash hick. GOP Guard Our Pedophiles :oldlol:

[TheMan]

It's been scrubbed from the internet so people like you will think that Epsteins only connection was Trump even though they probably haven't spoken for 15 years, but Obama and Biden are connected at least through dem super donors Reid Hoffman and Bill Gates who were donating heavily while Obama and Biden were doing absolutely nothing about Esptein.

Cope

[Overdrive]

It's been scrubbed from the internet so people like you will think that Epsteins only connection was Trump even though they probably haven't spoken for 15 years, but Obama and Biden are connected at least through dem super donors Reid Hoffman and Bill Gates who were donating heavily while Obama and Biden were doing absolutely nothing about Esptein.

Every powerful politician and every billionaire as at worst at a second degree tied to another.

It's that the MAGA-crowd acted like Trump was some sort of outsider who'd, as he and you guys said, drain the swamp. While in reality he is part of the very same swamp if not even a centerpiece.

[j3lademaster]

https://i.ibb.co/V0yfqBkk/kjh1bytcu6ff1.jpg (https://ibb.co/TDX9ghNN)

[TheMan]

https://i.ibb.co/V0yfqBkk/kjh1bytcu6ff1.jpg (https://ibb.co/TDX9ghNN)

No one is gonna believe that bullshit but that's the most obvious route...

[warriorfan]

The Beaner woke up on Saturday morning and the first thing he thought about was Donald Trump having sex with children.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Baller234]

No one, including yourself expected them to be released. If Biden or Obama had said "WE ARE BRINGING OUT THE FILES!!!!" and then danced around Phase 1 while promising a Phase 2. Only for Obama or Biden to say "Epstein!!?!?!! you guys are still talking about Epstein!!!???" Then it would be this exact same debacle, although probably less so because neither Biden nor Obama has been seen or linked to Epstein.

Not that any of the tribalism of what we were doing or saying matters here lol

Why would Obama or Biden ever offer to unseal any files? Who on your side was demanding it? Who was calling for it? You guys were more than happy to sweep it under the rug.

You don't care about the victims and you don't care about punishing child abusers. You're only pretending to care now because it allows you to partake in your favorite pastime which is bashing Orange Face. We're not going to let you rewrite history and try to present yourself as something you weren't.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Poopsie says where's the proof?

The Party that impeached Bill Clinton for lying about an affair, but acquitted Trump for extorting Zelensky & attempting a coup - is the Party that closed up shop to avoid voting on releasing the Epstein files, because blind loyalty to an obvious pedophile is all they have.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump will not release the Epstein Files.

But he will pardon Epstein's convicted child sex trafficking partner Ghislaine Maxwell.

What's it gonna take MAGA???

[BurningHammer]

The Beaner woke up on Saturday morning and the first thing he thought about was Donald Trump having sex with children.


:roll: :roll: :roll:
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[Jasper]

its funny how megas support trump screwing a girl under 18 , yet Biden and Clinton are condemned.

Pic of Epstein and trump wrapping their arms around 16 year olds ... is quite frankly sick.

If your 20 and have a girl 17 -or 18 , fine , but if your in your 40's ... :facepalm

trump doesn't want files to go public , cause he doesn't want to look like a creep like all the Megas are.

[Jasper]

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAMMopBnXQ0

just got to say poor Melonia

[Jasper]

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAMMopBnXQ0

just got to say poor Melonia

[Baller234]

I'm really struggling to understand what the anti-Trumpers are even getting at anymore. I admit that he only has himself to blame for this and he makes himself out to look like a huge liar, but beyond that I feel like the theories are only getting more wild and incoherent.

If Epstein were as powerful as some of you guys are claiming, how tf was he even brought to justice in the first place? If he had all this incriminating evidence, shouldn't that have been enough to keep him out of federal custody? You're saying the politicians that are owned by Israel arrested and detained one of Israel's most important assets? Perhaps Israel is behind Epstein's death? Perhaps Israel helped Epstein escape and he is really alive?

You can unroll that ball of yarn any which way you want. It's all up to the power of your imagination. But keep in mind a lot of you guys who are so sure of yourselves now just a few months ago were claiming that Trump was controlled by Elon. This Israel stuff is very new. I feel like Trump supporters were still "nazis" up until about a few months ago when we got rebranded as "zionists".

Trump's definitely lying. I don't know why he made it a part of his campaign because now he looks like a retard and a snake. I just trust that there is something at play larger than him. And if he's just covering for himself and it's ever revealed he's guilty of those types of crimes? Then by all means he should be impeached and brought to justice. We all know that's never going to happen though because he can't go down without bringing the whole thing down. It would be chaos.

[TheMan]

I'm really struggling to understand what the anti-Trumpers are even getting at anymore. I admit that he only has himself to blame for this and he makes himself out to look like a huge liar, but beyond that I feel like the theories are only getting more wild and incoherent.

If Epstein were as powerful as some of you guys are claiming, how tf was he even brought to justice in the first place? If he had all this incriminating evidence, shouldn't that have been enough to keep him out of federal custody? You're saying the politicians that are owned by Israel arrested and detained one of Israel's most important assets? Perhaps Israel is behind Epstein's death? Perhaps Israel helped Epstein escape and he is really alive?

You can unroll that ball of yarn any which way you want. It's all up to the power of your imagination. But keep in mind a lot of you guys who are so sure of yourselves now just a few months ago were claiming that Trump was controlled by Elon. This Israel stuff is very new. I feel like Trump supporters were still "nazis" up until about a few months ago when we got rebranded as "zionists".

Trump's definitely lying. I don't know why he made it a part of his campaign because now he looks like a retard and a snake. I just trust that there is something at play larger than him. And if he's just covering for himself and it's ever revealed he's guilty of those types of crimes? Then by all means he should be impeached and brought to justice. We all know that's never going to happen though because he can't go down without bringing the whole thing down. It would be chaos.

We'll survive...I'm not a conspiracy theorist per se but I do believe in the theory that there are a group of powerful men worldwide who commit heinous crimes because they believe they're above the law. This should not be seen any longer in a Blue vs Red team dynamic but rather us vs the elite degenerates. This is basically human decency vs criminal psychopaths with a lot of power.

[j3lademaster]

We'll survive...I'm not a conspiracy theorist per se but I do believe in the theory that there are a group of powerful men worldwide who commit heinous crimes because they believe they're above the law. This should not be seen any longer in a Blue vs Red team dynamic but rather us vs the elite degenerates. This is basically human decency vs criminal psychopaths with a lot of power.That's not a conspiracy theory, it's been proven time and time again. Individual entities own large enough chunks of the sp500 and dow that they can single handedly influence stocks and the panama papers proved they ARE above any kind of financial/tax law. We should probably stop voting in billionaires and billionaire lapdogs to run our govt. That'd be a start.

[Baller234]

We'll survive...I'm not a conspiracy theorist per se but I do believe in the theory that there are a group of powerful men worldwide who commit heinous crimes because they believe they're above the law. This should not be seen any longer in a Blue vs Red team dynamic but rather us vs the elite degenerates. This is basically human decency vs criminal psychopaths with a lot of power.

Correct, so if that's the case then maybe Trump is keeping "the list" secret purely out of self preservation. Whose to say that keeping this all under wraps is the only thing keeping him alive?

[Axe]

its funny how megas support trump screwing a girl under 18 , yet Biden and Clinton are condemned.

Pic of Epstein and trump wrapping their arms around 16 year olds ... is quite frankly sick.

If your 20 and have a girl 17 -or 18 , fine , but if your in your 40's ... :facepalm

trump doesn't want files to go public , cause he doesn't want to look like a creep like all the Megas are.
Magas are huge hypocrites.

[diamenz]

If Epstein were as powerful as some of you guys are claiming, how tf was he even brought to justice in the first place? If he had all this incriminating evidence, shouldn't that have been enough to keep him out of federal custody? You're saying the politicians that are owned by Israel arrested and detained one of Israel's most important assets?



that's not true - he was never brought to proper justice. alexander acosta, epstein's prosecutor, stated on record that he was told (this isn't verbatim) to "back off because epstein was intelligence" and that "this was above his pay grade" and subsequently 'took it easy on him' and gave him a sweetheart plea deal.

epstein's ties to mossad are just as credible and well sourced as the trump/clinton theories and should be considered as such. arguably even moreso the more one looks into it. there is a myriad of evidence in regard to epstein's life (and death), especially in relation to the associates that he had, that would lead one to believe that he was either with or was an asset of mossad.

i can't even begin to outline this in any respectable way because not only is it incredibly complex but i'm still learning myself; but if anyone needs convincing, i suggest listening to the martyr made podcast (if you can stomach all five hours of it) that extensively covers epstein's possible ties to mossad or if you want a more abridged version you can listen to tucker's interview with darryl cooper or there's also glenn greenwald who covered all of this, even as poorly spoken and hard to listen to as i think he is. tucker also spoke out about this in his turning point usa speech, which by the way was a *ucking masterful speech. anyway, it's all intriguing. this is a subject matter that one needs to do their own homework on to fully understand.

one should also wonder why some of the staunchest israel supporters like ben shapiro and mark levine want this epstein fiasco to go away most. or why the congresspeople that take the most amounts of $ from israeli "donors" are the ones speaking out loudest about putting this issue to bed.

i honestly wasn't too on board with the mossad theory from the beginning but the more i've looked into it the more pieces of the puzzle come together and the more it all seems plausible. at the very least, there are outstanding questions that need answers.

[Baller234]

that's not true - he was never brought to proper justice. alexander acosta, epstein's prosecutor, stated on record that he was told (this isn't verbatim) to "back off because epstein was intelligence" and that "this was above his pay grade" and subsequently 'took it easy on him' and gave him a sweetheart plea deal.

epstein's ties to mossad are just as credible and well sourced as the trump/clinton theories and should be considered as such. arguably even moreso the more one looks into it. there is a myriad of evidence in regard to epstein's life (and death), especially in relation to the associates that he had, that would lead one to believe that he was either with or was an asset of mossad.

i can't even begin to outline this in any respectable way because not only is it incredibly complex but i'm still learning myself; but if anyone needs convincing, i suggest listening to the martyr made podcast (if you can stomach all five hours of it) that extensively covers epstein's possible ties to mossad or if you want a more abridged version you can listen to tucker's interview with darryl cooper or there's also glenn greenwald who covered all of this, even as poorly spoken and hard to listen to as i think he is. tucker also spoke out about this in his turning point usa speech, which by the way was a *ucking masterful speech. anyway, it's all intriguing. this is a subject matter that one needs to do their own homework on to fully understand.

one should also wonder why some of the staunchest israel supporters like ben shapiro and mark levine want this epstein fiasco to go away most. or why the congresspeople that take the most amounts of $ from israeli "donors" are the ones speaking out loudest about putting this issue to bed.

i honestly wasn't too on board with the mossad theory from the beginning but the more i've looked into it the more pieces of the puzzle come together and the more it all seems plausible. at the very least, there are outstanding questions that need answers.

So then why was Epstein detained to begin with? If he was that untouchable, how does he even find himself in that position?

Who do you think made the call to go up against Epstein in the first place? If he had that kind of leverage, don't you think he would have had multiple fail-safes in place to keep him out of trouble? Best believe if I have evidence that could bring you down, there are instructions to release it in the event I am killed. I bet Trump if not most of the big wigs in Washington have similar fail safes, which is probably why no one really goes down for anything big.

[n00bie]

Trump:

I'll be releasing the Eipstein Files.
There are no Eipstein Files.
Eipstein Files exist but they planted my name in it.

Love this entertainment lol

[diamenz]

So then why was Epstein detained to begin with? If he was that untouchable, how does he even find himself in that position?

Who do you think made the call to go up against Epstein in the first place? If he had that kind of leverage, don't you think he would have had multiple fail-safes in place to keep him out of trouble? Best believe if I have evidence that could bring you down, there are instructions to release it in the event I am killed. I bet Trump if not most of the big wigs in Washington have similar fail safes, which is probably why no one really goes down for anything big.

i never said that epstein was untouchable and to be clear i'm not saying that i've gone and cracked the case and have definitive proof that it is indeed mossad - it's only a consideration, by the way, along with the possibility of it instead being cia. but like i said, if you do the homework, you come to realize that there are considerable ties to mossad and israel. it's undeniable. look, intelligence agencies do terrible things and neither should be ruled out or dismissed out of hand. but the real proof is in the tapes and whether they even still exist and whether gnomes already came in and stole & destroyed them. so people like myself are just speculating and asking legitimate questions because at this point it's been proven to be a plausible theory.

but to answer your question, i mean, when it comes to something as serious as pedophelia, you at least have to go through the motions, no matter whom it might be. the question is what ultimately happened? the guy wasn't even technically imprisoned. like i said, epstein, by request, got a slap on the wrist and got a year long "prison sentence" where he... apparently didn't even have to stay in prison, could more or less treat the place like a hotel due to a daily "work release" privilege and could come and go as he pleased. and then subsequently got community service. lol. there are people doing harder time for selling dime bags of weed on the street corner than this guy got.

another thing i find fascinating in all of this is how politicians on either side, along with mainstream media seem way more touchy and bothered by this theory than the theory that american presidents like clinton and trump were involved. could it be because it's one thing if the us government, israeli government, or any government, does something as serious as covering up the crime of child rape, it's a whole other if they were a part of it. if they set up underage american girls to get raped by the rich and powerful so that they could have blackmail or whatever it is they need for their intelligence agencies... i mean... certainly you can understand why this theory is thermonuclear.

[ZenMaster]

that's not true - he was never brought to proper justice. alexander acosta, epstein's prosecutor, stated on record that he was told (this isn't verbatim) to "back off because epstein was intelligence" and that "this was above his pay grade" and subsequently 'took it easy on him' and gave him a sweetheart plea deal.

epstein's ties to mossad are just as credible and well sourced as the trump/clinton theories and should be considered as such. arguably even moreso the more one looks into it. there is a myriad of evidence in regard to epstein's life (and death), especially in relation to the associates that he had, that would lead one to believe that he was either with or was an asset of mossad.

i can't even begin to outline this in any respectable way because not only is it incredibly complex but i'm still learning myself; but if anyone needs convincing, i suggest listening to the martyr made podcast (if you can stomach all five hours of it) that extensively covers epstein's possible ties to mossad or if you want a more abridged version you can listen to tucker's interview with darryl cooper or there's also glenn greenwald who covered all of this, even as poorly spoken and hard to listen to as i think he is. tucker also spoke out about this in his turning point usa speech, which by the way was a *ucking masterful speech. anyway, it's all intriguing. this is a subject matter that one needs to do their own homework on to fully understand.

one should also wonder why some of the staunchest israel supporters like ben shapiro and mark levine want this epstein fiasco to go away most. or why the congresspeople that take the most amounts of $ from israeli "donors" are the ones speaking out loudest about putting this issue to bed.

i honestly wasn't too on board with the mossad theory from the beginning but the more i've looked into it the more pieces of the puzzle come together and the more it all seems plausible. at the very least, there are outstanding questions that need answers.

The Acosta thing I don't think is on the record, it's a rumor that he said it in an interview with the Trump transition team.

In that podcast, do they talk about Epstein maybe becoming intelligence after his conviction?


Every powerful politician and every billionaire as at worst at a second degree tied to another.

It's that the MAGA-crowd acted like Trump was some sort of outsider who'd, as he and you guys said, drain the swamp. While in reality he is part of the very same swamp if not even a centerpiece.

Did you ever think you'd be considering Trump a criminal mastermind?

[diamenz]

In that podcast, do they talk about Epstein maybe becoming intelligence after his conviction?





that's something that probably would have burned into my memory banks so i don't think they did but i can't recall 100% zen. i listened to that podcast sometime back when it aired.

[TheMan]

It's obvious the Democrats weren't in a rush to release the Epstein files when they were in control because Bill Clinton would be exposed as a pedo, that dude is guilty af, visiting Epstein's private island almost 30 times. What a sick fukk.

I doubt those files ever see the light of day, Trump probably already had them destroyed, at least the parts that would incriminate him. The only loose end now is Jizzlaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell, well known Mossad agent whom also died under strange circumstances, so if she goes on to give up the names of a few Democrats and businessmen but exonerates Trump from any wrong doing and she gets a lighter sentence or outright pardoned, you know Trump is guilty af too. Everyone will accept this, except the hardcore MAGA cultists, of course.

Trump will forever be seen as a pedo rapist...well because he is :lol

[1987_Lakers]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/t_nBf1OMZQgAAAAd/bill-clinton-ariana-grande.gif

[TheMan]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/t_nBf1OMZQgAAAAd/bill-clinton-ariana-grande.gif

Lol

Dude is such a perv

[ZenMaster]

that's something that probably would have burned into my memory banks so i don't think they did but i can't recall 100% zen. i listened to that podcast sometime back when it aired.

Trump spoke a bit about Epstein today: https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1950261003540713528

The whole thing is spectacular, Epstein was one of the smartest individuals on earth when he was alive, and some people think he was an intelligence asset too - yet he was investigated by local Miami police and even convicted because a woman found out her stepdaughter had 300 dollars she wasn't supposed to.
There's a theory there that he got the favorable deal so he could be advertised as a seemingly untouchable pedo with his own private island, so other pedos would naturally come to him.

[warriorfan]

Trump spoke a bit about Epstein today: https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1950261003540713528

The whole thing is spectacular, Epstein was one of the smartest individuals on earth when he was alive, and some people think he was an intelligence asset too - yet he was investigated by local Miami police and even convicted because a woman found out her stepdaughter had 300 dollars she wasn't supposed to.
There's a theory there that he got the favorable deal so he could be advertised as a seemingly untouchable pedo with his own private island, so other pedos would naturally come to him.
The Man is stuck between a rock and a hard place with his Israel hate and having to deny Epstien connections to mossad just so he can try to rub it in harder to donald trump

Dude is big time conflicted right now trying to get his agendas straight for his insanely biased interpretation of the facts :lol

[TheMan]

The Man is stuck between a rock and a hard place with his Israel hate and having to deny Epstien connections to mossad just so he can try to rub it in harder to donald trump

Dude is big time conflicted right now trying to get his agendas straight for his insanely biased interpretation of the facts :lol

Lol, me denying Epstein Mossad ties? I've been very vocal about Epstein's Mossad ties you goofball, in fact Dooms made a thread giving me props about that because he hadn't heard of it before, which was strange since it's been out there a while about Epstein's Mossad connections. The meth is frying your brain, homeboy.

[warriorfan]

Lol, me denying Epstein Mossad ties? I've been very vocal about Epstein's Mossad ties you goofball, in fact Dooms made a thread giving me props about that because he hadn't heard of it before, which was strange since it's been out there a while about Epstein's Mossad connections. The meth is frying your brain, homeboy.

Sorry I don’t have the time to keep up with your unhinged spamming about donald trump and jews.

Good luck with that.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Lol

Dude is such a perv

Every MAGA on this board would react the same way.

[Lakers Legend#32]

You know what's gonna happen when Trump pardons Maxwell?

A convicted felon will be pardoning a convicted felon.

This is Trump's 'Murica.

Remember when Trump was elected and Chewing said these were gonna be the greatest four years in American history?

[Norcaliblunt]

Still ain’t coming


Lmao!!!!

[highwhey]

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[Baller234]

I'm seeing on Twitter that Bill Clinton was on The View today and not one question was posed regarding Epstein.

Awfully strange. They seemed really interested in discussing it prior.

[highwhey]

I'm seeing on Twitter that Bill Clinton was on The View today and not one question was posed regarding Epstein.

Awfully strange. They seemed really interested in discussing it prior.

did he run on a campaign to expose those files? did he order the fbi to have 1000 agents tasked with redacting his name from those files? no? there's your answer.

[Baller234]

did he run on a campaign to expose those files? did he order the fbi to have 1000 agents tasked with redacting his name from those files? no? there's your answer.

Wait, do you wanna know what's being hidden or not? I thought you said you wanted to expose the truth first and foremost? Why are you upset with me and not the hags on The View? Just recently, as in less than a month ago, they couldn't STOP talking about Epstein and the alleged coverup. Shouldn't they have brought it up HERE??

Why are you okay with them being complicit in the coverup NOW?

[Baller234]

edit: dbl

[highwhey]

Wait, do you wanna know what's being hidden or not? I thought you said you wanted to expose the truth first and foremost? Why are you upset with me and not the hags on The View? Just recently, as in less than a month ago, they couldn't STOP talking about Epstein and the alleged coverup. Shouldn't they have brought it up HERE??

Why are you okay with them being complicit in the coverup NOW?

bc they're an entertainment tv show...:confusedshrug:

does the view have authority over the DOJ? are they tight knit with pam bondi? can they command 1000 fbi agents to start looking at the epstein files? oh, wait...only trump can do that :facepalm


"but but but why isn't the view investigating the epstein files?" *ignores trump doing his best to suppress evidence*

i told you, your mental gymnastics game is elite.

[Baller234]

:: Republicans try and sweep Epstein under the rug ::

HIGHwhey - "Trump's a pedo! They're all pedos! You Trumpers are covering for a pedo! Where are the files!?!? Unseal the files!!!"


:: Democrats try and sweep Epstein under the rug ::

HIGHwhey - "Hey come on now guys, The View is just an entertainment show. I'm all for pressing Trump but please let's not press Bill Clinton, he's here for a good time and he's not here for that..."


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[highwhey]

:: Republicans try and sweep Epstein under the rug ::

HIGHwhey - "Trump's a pedo! They're all pedos! You Trumpers are covering for a pedo! Where are the files!?!? Unseal the files!!!"


:: Democrats try and sweep Epstein under the rug ::

HIGHwhey - "Hey come on now guys, The View is just an entertainment show. I'm all for pressing Trump but please let's not press Bill Clinton, he's here for a good time and he's not here for that..."


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LMAO. you're comparing a TELEVISION ENTERTAINMENT show to the PRESIDENT and the DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE :roll::roll:


you're a so fukken stupid no wonder people treat you the way they do and you complain about it, because you are an IDIOT.

[highwhey]

WTF, WHY DOESN'T FIRST TAKE ASK ABOUT THE EPSTEIN FILES????!?!?! grrr :mad:

https://www.tvguide.com/a/img/catalog/provider/2/13/2-8e2d5e33dc7b22e885af5d0d8bceb76a.jpg

[Baller234]

If The View is just an entertainment show, then how come they decided to talk about Epstein at all? I can find several clips from just the last month or so. Clearly they weren't shy about talking about it before.

Your sudden change in attitude isn't going unnoticed.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Bawler watches The View.

What a wuss.

[highwhey]

If The View is just an entertainment show, then how come they decided to talk about Epstein at all? I can find several clips from just the last month or so. Clearly they weren't shy about talking about it before.

Your sudden change in attitude isn't going unnoticed.

that sounds like a personal problem if you think entertainment television has authority and competency to discuss politics and investigate a criminal case.

get some help.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Melania said she is gonna sue Hunter Biden for $1 billion dollars for his saying she met Trump through Epstein.

A billion dollars!

Hunter just laughed at this threat and said he is ready to sit through a deposition where Trump and Melania have to explain their relationship to Epstein.

[warriorfan]

highwhey could have exercised today but he decided to obsess about donald trump instead.

sick life choice :lol

(and judging from his taste in “little baddies” we all know he would be on the first flight out to epstein island if they invited diabetic beaners)

[Baller234]

that sounds like a personal problem if you think entertainment television has authority and competency to discuss politics and investigate a criminal case.

get some help.

So how come they were so eager to talk about Epstein when it came to implicating Trump? How come Bill Clinton is a guest on the show and all of a sudden they have no more interest in talking about it?

Tell me, if not now, WHEN would be a proper time to ask Bill Clinton about his involvement with Epstein? He's made countless public appearances these last several years and hasn't had to answer a single question about it.

[Hey Yo]

that sounds like a personal problem if you think entertainment television has authority and competency to discuss politics and investigate a criminal case.

get some help.

Change the sign in the background from The View to CNN and it's the same discussion on the 2 programs.

Baller destroyed you, chico. Just go to the buffet and eat it off since you can't walk it off.

Evidence that Clinton was on the island like 28 times, but highwhey's ok with that.

[Baller234]

Change the sign in the background from The View to CNN and it's the same discussion on the 2 programs.

Baller destroyed you, chico. Just go to the buffet and eat it off since you can't walk it off.

Evidence that Clinton was on the island like 28 times, but highwhey's ok with that.

The fact that Bill Clinton was comfortable enough to go on The View in the first place is proof that the show is just a political mechanism for the democrats. Epstein is somewhat of a trending topic right now so we both know there's zero chance of him opening himself to a real interview. If he's going on TV, it's scripted. The ladies on The View are in on the show. It's basically professional wrestling.

I'm okay with Trump and his team being pressed on Epstein btw. They are the ones who campaigned on exposing the truth so they should be held to task. That's fair game as far as I'm concerned. I think it's stupid to hyper-focus on just that one thing at the expense of everything else going on, but it's fair to ask questions.

[Baller234]

dbl

[Lakers Legend#32]

And if Melania were to sue Hunter, during deposition, she would have to describe the state of her and Fat Donny's marriage.:oldlol:

[warriorfan]

Is Off The Court okay?

:roll:

[highwhey]

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[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump maybe got a 12 hour reprieve with his disastrous Putin summit.

Now it's back to all Epstein all the time.

[bladefd]

Ghislaine Maxwell seems to have flipped after Trump dangled possible pardon for her.


The woman thought to have the most direct knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's decades-long sex-trafficking operation claims there was no client list, no blackmail scheme and -- to her knowledge -- no high-profile Epstein associates who committed illicit acts in connection with the notorious sex-offender's crimes.

Maxwell told Blanche that during her time with Epstein -- which ranged from the early 1990s to the mid-2000s -- she never witnessed nor heard of any inappropriate or criminal activity by President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, nor any of the well-known men who associated with Epstein, according to the transcript.

"I have no memory ... of having seen anybody that resembles a young child, let's call it what it is, at that house giving him a massage at all," Maxwell said, in reference to Epstein's Palm Beach home.
...
Maxwell appealed her conviction but her attempts have thus far been unsuccessful. She now has a pending application before the U.S. Supreme Court to review her conviction. Her lawyers have stated that they have not yet asked President Trump to commute her sentence or to pardon her, but that Maxwell "would welcome any relief."
...
Maxwell said she had suggested to Epstein that he allow Clinton to use his private jumbo-jet to fly to multiple international destinations in Africa, Asia and Europe in the early 2000's, after the end of his presidency. Clinton, Maxwell said, had no particular interest in Epstein other than having the use of his plane.

"They met because of me and the plane was because of me," she said. "I didn't see President Clinton being interested in Epstein. He was just a rich guy with the plane."

Despite President Trump's oft-repeated claims that Clinton had traveled more than 20 times to Little St. James -- Epstein's private U.S. Virgin Islands estate where much of Epstein's abuse is alleged to have occurred -- Maxwell said the former president had never been there and wouldn't have wanted to go, because he had no relationship with Epstein.

"He never, absolutely never went. And I can be sure of that because there's no way he would have gone. I don't believe there's any way that he would've gone to the island had I not been there. Because I don't believe he had an independent friendship, if you will, with Epstein," Maxwell told Blanche.

Bill Clinton has previously said through a spokesperson that he "knew nothing" about Epstein's crimes, had never visited the island, and that all the flights on Epstein's aircraft in 2002 and 2003 were associated with work for the Clinton Foundation.
...
As for the current president, Maxwell said that she first knew of Trump through her late father, who purchased the New York Daily News in 1991. She said she only saw Trump and Epstein, both native New Yorkers, together in social settings and never saw or heard anything inappropriate about Trump while he was with Epstein.

"I may have met Donald Trump at that time because my father was very friendly with him and liked him very much," Maxwell said. "And I think, [it] should be said that he also very much liked [Trump's first wife] Ivana because she was also from Czechoslovakia where my dad was from."

Maxwell said she only saw the two native New Yorkers, Trump and Epstein, together in social settings and never saw or heard anything inappropriate about Trump while he was with Epstein.

"I don't know how they met, and I don't know how they became friends. I certainly saw them together and I remember the few times I observed them together. But they were friendly. I mean, they seemed friendly," Maxwell said.https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwell-provided-no-incriminating-information-meetings-deputy-ag/story?id=124894271

[warriorfan]

Ghislaine Maxwell seems to have flipped after Trump dangled possible pardon for her.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwell-provided-no-incriminating-information-meetings-deputy-ag/story?id=124894271

:roll:

[Hey Yo]

Yep.... Maxwell "just NOW all of a sudden" decides that she doesn't like being in prison and will NOW really tell the truth so she can get out. :facepalm

Blade's so gullible.

[Overdrive]

Yep.... Maxwell "just NOW all of a sudden" decides that she doesn't like being in prison and will NOW really tell the truth so she can get out. :facepalm

Blade's so gullible.

Not like there's a possible "quid pro quo" situation with someone who can pardon her. If anyone is gullible it's the maga zealots.

[BurningHammer]

Blade's so gullible.
See how Blade simply reposted the news and your reply is this. :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

Not like there's a possible "quid pro quo" situation with someone who can pardon her. If anyone is gullible it's the maga zealots.

Then why wouldn't she say the opposite when Biden was President? Surely Biden (or whoever was acting in charge) would have pardoned her for her testimony against Trump saying whatever bullshit was needed to get him charged? That way there would be no time in prison whatsoever considering she's been behind bars since 2022.

Regardless.... the only way dudes like you would believe her, is if she said she saw Trump having sex with kids.

[Hey Yo]

See how Blade simply reposted the news and your reply is this. :oldlol:

Thanks Axe

[Overdrive]

Then why wouldn't she say the opposite when Biden was President? Surely Biden (or whoever was acting in charge) would have pardoned her for her testimony against Trump saying whatever bullshit was needed to get him charged? That way there would be no time in prison whatsoever considering she's been behind bars since 2022.

Regardless.... the only way dudes like you would believe her, is if she said she saw Trump having sex with kids.

Ad 1st paragraph: For obvious reasons. The democrats didn't want to touch Epstein for the very same reasons the reps don't want to now.

Ad 2nd paragraph. No, I already stated Trump being on a list could very much be a false accuaation just as much as a list even existing could've been a lie in itself. What I don't get is the Trump campaign pushing it so much just to backtrack on it completely. Maxwell being transfered among other benefits after the accusations by Musk et al and another interogation just seems off and not a good look. They should have just let her rot in some maximum security prison.

[j3lademaster]

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[Lakers Legend#32]

The Trump Department of Justice is only interviewing the traffickers.

Not the victims.

This is a coverup in plain sight.