Top modern rock bands

[Hawker]

this includes '90s and now.

This would be it for me

1. Oasis
2. Red hot chili peppers
3. Coldplay
4. Incubus
5. Rage against the machine (even if they are retired)

[i seen hippos]

if rock includes all kinds then my personal favourites would be....

1. offspring (pre-americana)
2. disturbed
3. rage against the machine
4. nirvana
5. pearl jam

[Hawker]

dood off spring really isnt that talented at all.

[Qwyjibo]

Wilco (THE best)

Broken Social Scene
Dave Matthews Band (despite their horrible latest album)
The Flaming Lips
The Olivia Tremor Control

[Hawker]

Wilco (THE best)

Broken Social Scene
Dave Matthews Band (despite their horrible latest album)
The Flaming Lips
The Olivia Tremor Control

Heard of some of those but only listened to dave matthews

[KGtoGay2k6]

avenged sevenfold

[funkylikemonkey]

Well I'm going with just now:

Broken Social Scene
Bloc Party
Arcade Fire
Stars
Rilo Kiley
The Decemberists
Architecture in Helsinki
Death Cab
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Wolf Parade
The Boy Least Likely To
Apostle of Hustle
Metric
Cursive
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Sufjan Stevens (Even with his strong religious undertones.)
The New Pornographers
Art Brut
Feist

[Hawker]

and i am talking about talented bands. AVenged sevenfold really isnt talented.

screaming and bad drumming. guitar is alright i guess. but lots of power chords

[Velocirap31]

Including Punk-rock:

1. Greenday
2. Red hot chili Peppers (Stadium Arcadium is awesome, both cd's)
3. Thrice
4. Senses Fail
5. Blink 182

[Hawker]

Broken Social Scene
Bloc Party
Arcade Fire
Stars
Rilo Kiley
The Decemberists
Architecture in Helsinki
Death Cab
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Wolf Parade
The Boy Least Likely To
Apostle of Hustle
Metric
Cursive
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Sufjan Stevens (Even with his strong religious undertones.)
The New Pornographers
Art Brut
Feist


Are u like an indie/emo freak?

Bloc party is dominant. They need to come out with a new CD though.

[Hawker]

1. Greenday

lyrics ok musical compostiion sucks

[Hawker]

punk rock overall pretty much sucks. So long are the days of 80s punk rock.

[Velocirap31]

Arcade Fire

Neighbourhood 1 is one of the most unique and best songs I've ever heard from the Arcade Fire. It is their best song imo.

[Hawker]

punk rock guitarists rely too heavily on power chords and scale stuff like

x
x
9
x
7
x

[Velocirap31]

lyrics ok musical compostiion sucks

You probably know more about 'musical composition' than I do, but I just based my list on personal preference.

[i seen hippos]

why does it matter if they aren't that talented? in my opinion they put out very good music during their early days (ignition, smash, etc.).

they didn't do anything fancy, but songs like burn it up, get it right, gotta get away, smash, self esteem, nitro, cool to hate, amazed, etc. had good lyrics and had really catchy tunes.

remember this is before americana.

[Hawker]

in my opinion they put out very good music during their early days (ignition, smash, etc.).

there is a difference between good music to someone's ears and actual good music. Actual good music is actual singing and actual guitar playing uniqueness and variety

[albertpujols]

punk rock overall pretty much sucks. So long are the days of 80s punk rock.

Extreme punk rock gives me a headache. It's too freakkin loud.

I never lisntened to Oasis though. Is it like Coldplay?

[i seen hippos]

well i made my list based on MY favourites. it would get a lot harder if it was simply the best.

[Bosh4life]

Meh i may nto listen to much modern rock because i ahve lsot hope in music. I hate that screaming or depressing emo ****. Blink absolutly ruined their career goign all ****ing soft and sounding like wailing *****'s on their periods. I won't listen to any of their music past take off their pants and jacket. I mean i still listen to modern music but not often, i'm scared i might run into some of that ****ing emo trash and might just have to go vincent vango style on my ears.

[Qwyjibo]

Well I'm going with just now:

Broken Social Scene
Bloc Party
Arcade Fire
Stars
Rilo Kiley
The Decemberists
Architecture in Helsinki
Death Cab
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Wolf Parade
The Boy Least Likely To
Apostle of Hustle
Metric
Cursive
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Sufjan Stevens (Even with his strong religious undertones.)
The New Pornographers
Art Brut
Feist

Stars is GREAT, forgot to mention them. They are more pop though... pop-rock I guess.

Jason Collett's solo album was great too. Feist... meh, I liked a couple songs on her album but to me it was the weakest of the BSS side stuff.

Sufjan's Illinois was one of the best albums as a whole I've heard in a while but I didn't think much of Michigan.

[Velocirap31]

Anyone like Billy Talent???

[i seen hippos]

same bosh, emo sucks balls. out of what i listed. disturbed is the only band i listen to today as far as new stuff. and that's not just for those 5 bands. it includes everything. even rap.

right now i only listen to old stuff like black sabbath, old metallica, nirvana, offspring, weezer, rage against the machine, led zeppelin and the guess who.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Anyone like Billy Talent???

some of their songs are good. never took the time to really listen to their albums though so i'm no expert.

[albertpujols]

Meh i may nto listen to much modern rock because i ahve lsot hope in music. I hate that screaming or depressing emo ****. Blink absolutly ruined their career goign all ****ing soft and sounding like wailing *****'s on their periods. I won't listen to any of their music past take off their pants and jacket. I mean i still listen to modern music but not often, i'm scared i might run into some of that ****ing emo trash and might just have to go vincent vango style on my ears.

:roll:

Same here.

[geeWiz15]

1. Oasis
2. Red hot chili peppers
3. Coldplay
Good. Stop it at there and add Wilco and Green Day and that's it.

I also like The Killers.

[Hawker]

I never lisntened to Oasis though. Is it like Coldplay?

Not really. They are more rock than coldplay. Coldplay is still rock but lighter.

Ever listened to wonderwall or champagne supernova?

Lead signer liam gallagher is a decent to good singer. He isnt the best but a lot better than others and noel gallagher is back up guitarist as well as vocals. He provides some rock hard solos and chord progressions that flow very well harmonically with the words. The drummer is ringo starr's son. He isnt like officially in the band but he is. He cant be in pics and stuff because he is still with "the who." Some songs have strings and trumpets and such which give it a good feel.

Buy a CD or two. I suggest morning glory, definetly maybe or be here now.

[albertpujols]

Anyone like Billy Talent???

-Red Flag-

Have the CD.

[Hawker]

what is billy talent like. im always open to new music.

[Kiss Murder]

The Mars Volta.

[Velocirap31]

Billy Talent is definetly good (I forgot them on my list). I used to think they were alright until I bought both of their cd's a month ago. They make the midnight shifts alot better for me.

Favourite BT songs: The Ex, Worker Bees.

[i seen hippos]

correct me if i'm wrong, but billy talent is punk-rock. however they are more hardcore than bands like sum 41....basically they're not pop artists.

[Velocirap31]

Yeah they're kind of hard core, mostly because they yell a bit. It's not annoying or disturbing like some emo bands are.

[Hawker]

billy talent isnt bad. Not a CD i would buy tho. i just checked them out on myspace

[Ryan Bowen]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/subterranean_homesick_alien/Radiohead09.jpg
http://www.free-font-downloads.com/fontpics/euroswh.gif

:bowdown:

[Velocirap31]

I've never listened to Radiohead. What is your favourite song? I'll dl it and see how they are.

[funkylikemonkey]

I forgot my two favorite bands:
Bear vs Shark (who sadly recently broken up)
Minus the Bear


Some good hardcore bands:

Blood Brothers
The Bled
Norma Jean
As I lay Dying

[Qwyjibo]

Radiohead as well for me. Thom Yorke's recent solo album was really "meh" though.

[i seen hippos]

creeps a really popular radiohead song. good to listen to on my 3 hr+ car rides to my cottage.

[albertpujols]

Yeah they're kind of hard core, mostly because they yell a bit. It's not annoying or disturbing like some emo bands are.

Yeah same. Some mother bands go all-out, as if they were trying to scare the mother hell out of you. BT is the farthest i'll go in that regard.

[Ryan Bowen]

I've never listened to Radiohead. What is your favourite song? I'll dl it and see how they are.

Just
Creep
Paranoid Android
Optimistic
Knives Out
There There
Fake Plastic Trees
Lucky
The National Anthem
Pyramid Song
2+2=5

[funkylikemonkey]

Some good Radiohead songs:

-Fake Plastic Trees
-Paranoid Android
-Karma Police

[i seen hippos]

do you mean as far as punk/rock or music in general, pujols?

i can listen to metallica and disturbed all day, but it's not a screechy yelling either.

[geeWiz15]

I can't think about Radiohead without thinking of the South Park Scott Tenorman episode where Cartman kills the guy's parents and then puts them in chili.

[Jerm]

ROCK SUCKS...Well except for Coldplay!

[LaFlame]

has anyone heard taking back sunday or thursday?

[MavsLakerfan4eva]

ROCK SUCKS...Well except for Coldplay!

Coldplay copied Radiohead. Coldplay is essentially a watered down version of Radiohead.

[funkylikemonkey]

has anyone heard taking back sunday or thursday?

Understand In a Car Crash is an amazing song by Thursday, TBS used to be good, both had new albums this year...neither had good albums this year.

[Jerm]

Radiohead had one good album and failed to live upto expectations from then on. Coldplay came on air and stripped them off their title and has been consistent ever since.

[funkylikemonkey]

Listen to this song, I'm sure most of you will like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU6cGLciUOo

[Qwyjibo]

I used to kinda like Coldplay... and then they made X & Y and really proved that they have no ability to evolve or differentiate their music in any way. That entire album was like listening to one long continuous boring song... a song that we already heard in their first 2 albums (which were solid).


Radiohead had one good album and failed to live upto expectations from then on.
Not really. The Bends was very good but didn't really catch on much here. Then OK Computer was a HUGE critical darling for them (and rightfully so) and then the next one Kid A somehow topped the Billboard charts in the US (which was shocking as hell) and supposedly sold really well.

[albertpujols]

do you mean as far as punk/rock or music in general, pujols?

i can listen to metallica and disturbed all day, but it's not a screechy yelling either.

Yelling and screaming is more commonly reffered to punk/rock. I don't really relate that to other genres. But yeah, I have my limits.

If its that screechy yelling crap with the loud as hell crap beats and suicidal lyrics --- that's my definition of crap rock.

[Zombles]

The Mars Volta.

Hey, look, a winner.

The Mars Volta are the Led Zeppelin of today's rock scene.

[El Kabong]

Feeder
Finch
The Butterfly Effect
The Mark Of Cain
Our Lady Peace
Finger Eleven
Ween

[Hawker]

has anyone heard taking back sunday or thursday?

sorry im not an emo b i t c h

[JSub]

1. GREEN DAY

2. Radiohead
3. Third Eye Blind
4. Coldplay

[Velocirap31]

sorry im not an emo ******

I'm not emo either, but those bands are pretty good. I get bored now with other 'softer' bands.

[Hawker]

1. GREEN DAY

overrated trash. Emo b i t c hes. Power chord no talent sell out losers.

[joewait]

Prince

[Qwyjibo]

Man, how could I forget one bad that is both extremely old and yet still modern:


Sonic Youth


They released another quality album last month.

[funkylikemonkey]

overrated trash. Emo b i t c hes. Power chord no talent sell out losers.

Do you just label everyone emo?

[Hawker]

Isnt sonic youth taht really crazy band with out of tune stuff that sounds good? ahvent heard their songs i lll check em on myspace

[Jerm]

I used to kinda like Coldplay... and then they made X & Y and really proved that they have no ability to evolve or differentiate their music in any way. That entire album was like listening to one long continuous boring song... a song that we already heard in their first 2 albums (which were solid).


Not really. The Bends was very good but didn't really catch on much here. Then OK Computer was a HUGE critical darling for them (and rightfully so) and then the next one Kid A somehow topped the Billboard charts in the US (which was shocking as hell) and supposedly sold really well.

Truth be told, Coldplay is what Radiohead "should" have been but never was and they're the best modern Rock band.

[MavsLakerfan4eva]

Radiohead had one good album and failed to live upto expectations from then on. Coldplay came on air and stripped them off their title and has been consistent ever since.

http://www-cgi.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/04/britain.albums


Radiohead's 1995 album 'The Bends' is ranked second behind The Beatles' 'Revolver' in a new survey of the 1,000 greatest albums of all time.
The top 10 albums according 'Virgin All Time Top 1,000 Albums'
1. Revolver -- The Beatles
2. The Bends -- Radiohead
3. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
Hearts Club Band -- The Beatles
4. OK Computer -- Radiohead
5. The White Album -- The Beatles
6. Automatic For The People -- REM
7. Blood On The Tracks -- Bob Dylan
8. Abbey Road -- The Beatles
9. Dark Side Of The Moon
-- Pink Floyd
10. The Queen Is Dead -- The Smiths
Source: Virgin poll

In fact, between them, Radiohead and the Fab Four hold the list's five top spots, with 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' third, Radiohead's 1997 disc 'OK Computer' fourth and The Beatles' 1968 'White Album' in fifth place.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4110278.stm


Radiohead's album OK Computer has been named the best of the past 20 years by US music magazine Spin.

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12046412

Radiohead's Kid A was nominated for Grammys for album of the year and best alternative music album yesterday (January 3). However, some of the band's members recently told LAUNCH that award shows aren't exactly their favorite aspects of the music industry.

Top 100 Albums of the 1990s:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/36737/Staff_List_Top_100_Albums_of_the_1990s/page_10

Top 100 albums of 2000-2004
http://www.listology.com/content_show.cfm/content_id.16477/Music

Radiohead's Kid A debuts at number 1 in both the Uk and USA simultaneously http://www.livedaily.com/news/UK_Charts_Radioheads_Kid_A_stays_at_No_1-2002.html

After scoring No. 1 success in both Britain and the U.S. last week, Radiohead (music)'s "Kid A" stayed at the top of the Official U.K. Album Chart for second week in a row on Sunday (10/15). The group's fourth album has also been certified platinum in the U.K

[Hawker]

Do you just label everyone emo?

dood they are.

[Jerm]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4110278.stm

There's a difference between pushing units and having a good album. Radiohead didn't follow through with expectations and fell off hard which allowed Coldplay to take over.

[joewait]

I HATE the Smiths. And the Pixies. The Smiths are awful.

[Timmeh]

Yes, this is my kinda OT thread.

1. Green Day (nice to see some Green Day fans here.)
2. Chevelle
3. Lostprophets
4. Audioslave
5. Silverstein
6. Breaking Benjamin
7. Beck
8. Bullet For My Valentine
9. Saosin
10. A Perfect Circle

Hawker, just because you haven't heard of a band doesn't mean it's an emo band, and just because someone may like an emo band doesn't mean that person is emo. Quit labeling people and get a clue jackass.

[Qwyjibo]

Truth be told, Coldplay is what Radiohead "should" have been but never was and they're the best modern Rock band.

So Radiohead should have just stuck with one sound without ever experimenting and trying new stuff?? I don't think that would've worked for them since their first 2 albums never made it big over here. And damn that would be so boring for us Radiohead fans.

I kinda like variety in my music and when a band sticks to the EXACT same formula for 3 straight albums and actually degrades in overall quality like Coldplay did... it gets kinda stale.

[Hawker]

Hawker, just because you haven't heard of a band doesn't mean it's an emo band, and just because someone may like an emo band doesn't mean that person is emo. Quit labeling people and get a clue jackass.

Who doesnt know who green day is?
Their newer stuff is emo. I had respect for them until they changed their music to make more money. Sell-outs.

[Hawker]

and i am talking about talented bands. AVenged sevenfold really isnt talented.

screaming and bad drumming. guitar is alright i guess. but lots of power chords

Thats not really an opinion. Knowing what people play arent opinions they are facts dumbass. Knowing that a guitarist mainly plays power chords isnt an opinion its a fact.

[Hawker]

Talent isnt opinionated.

[Timmeh]

Who doesnt know who green day is?
Their newer stuff is emo. I had respect for them until they changed their music to make more money. Sell-outs. what the hell? do you even know what emo is? American Idiot is not emo by any means. American Idiot is just flat out rebellion and the story of a kid while taking a few cheap shots at politics.

Emo is bands like From First to Last, just because the people in the band have black hair and wear eyeliner doesn't make them emo.

[Timmeh]

Talent isnt opinionated holy hell yes it is. there are a lot of people who think Phil Collins is a good singer when in reality his music sucks ass

[Qwyjibo]

Their newer stuff is emo. I had respect for them until they changed their music to make more money. Sell-outs.

I actually found American Idiot to be their BEST stuff. It was more mature, well-structured and still overall a helluva lot of fun. My only problem was with the gross overplaying of "Wake Me Up When September Ends"... one of the weakest tracks on the album.

[Hawker]

ya ill admit they arent emo but they really arent talented. They criticize bush a lot and tahts cool but i dono i just dont like their easy musical composition. Their drummer plays a lot of the same stuff it seems. And billy joel or whatever his name is plays a lot of the same power chords over and over.

wake me up when september ends is i guess how long it takes before that guy returns from war.

[Hawker]

holy hell yes it is. there are a lot of people who think Phil Collins is a good singer when in reality his music sucks ass\

His music may suck ass but he may be a good singer.

[albertpujols]

holy hell yes it is. there are a lot of people who think Phil Collins is a good singer when in reality his music sucks ass

I like Phil Collins. I am listning to it right now.

[Hawker]

dash's music sucks ass but the singer is good

[Hawker]

i play guitar so im well educated on talent of guitar playing

[Timmeh]

ya ill admit they arent emo but they really arent talented. They criticize bush a lot and tahts cool but i dono i just dont like their easy musical composition. Their drummer plays a lot of the same stuff it seems. And billy joel or whatever his name is plays a lot of the same power chords over and over.

wake me up when september ends is i guess how long it takes before that guy returns from war. look at you, you're criticizing just about everyone in here and you have no idea what you're talking about. Rock music is based on 3 chords. That's basically how you make a song, pick 3 chords and variate them. you want more complex music? listen to classical music.

Wake Me Up When September ends is talking about Billy Joe's father who passed away when Billy was young

[Timmeh]

I like Phil Collins. I am listning to it right now. See hawker? some like it, some don't....OPINIONS

[Hawker]

Rock music is based on 3 chords.

:roll: :wtf:

ya s h i t t y rock music

[Timmeh]

ok then if it's ****ty then why did you make a thread about it? you must like it

[Hawker]

See hawker? some like it, some don't....OPINIONS

Ya some may like it some may not but it can still be talented. Dumbass.

beethoven is hella talented but not everyone likes it.

[Hawker]

It says " Top modern rock bands" not "top ****ty rock bands"

[Velocirap31]

beethoven is hella talented but not everyone likes it.

Replace Beethoven with Greenday and you make another good point.

[MavsLakerfan4eva]

There's a difference between pushing units and having a good album. Radiohead didn't follow through with expectations and fell off hard which allowed Coldplay to take over.

http://www-cgi.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/04/britain.albums


Radiohead's 1995 album 'The Bends' is ranked second behind The Beatles' 'Revolver' in a new survey of the 1,000 greatest albums of all time.
The top 10 albums according 'Virgin All Time Top 1,000 Albums'
1. Revolver -- The Beatles
2. The Bends -- Radiohead
3. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
Hearts Club Band -- The Beatles
4. OK Computer -- Radiohead
5. The White Album -- The Beatles
6. Automatic For The People -- REM
7. Blood On The Tracks -- Bob Dylan
8. Abbey Road -- The Beatles
9. Dark Side Of The Moon
-- Pink Floyd
10. The Queen Is Dead -- The Smiths
Source: Virgin poll

In fact, between them, Radiohead and the Fab Four hold the list's five top spots, with 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' third, Radiohead's 1997 disc 'OK Computer' fourth and The Beatles' 1968 'White Album' in fifth place.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4110278.stm


Radiohead's album OK Computer has been named the best of the past 20 years by US music magazine Spin.

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12046412

Radiohead's Kid A was nominated for Grammys for album of the year and best alternative music album yesterday (January 3). However, some of the band's members recently told LAUNCH that award shows aren't exactly their favorite aspects of the music industry.

Top 100 Albums of the 1990s:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/36737/Staff_List_Top_100_Albums_of_the_1990s/page_10

Top 100 albums of 2000-2004
http://www.listology.com/content_show.cfm/content_id.16477/Music

Radiohead's Kid A debuts at number 1 in both the Uk and USA simultaneously
http://www.livedaily.com/news/UK_Charts_Radioheads_Kid_A_stays_at_No_1-2002.html

After scoring No. 1 success in both Britain and the U.S. last week, Radiohead (music)'s "Kid A" stayed at the top of the Official U.K. Album Chart for second week in a row on Sunday (10/15). The group's fourth album has also been certified platinum in the U.K

[jamal]

green day is freaking awesome. not ony is billie joe very talanted, he comes across as alarmingly real when he sings. green day just has that genuine authenticity. and tho "longview" is over a decade old, when i hear it i still picture a lonely dude spacing out in front of the TV and jacking off. it feels so real. GD captures the essence of the mood in their songs.

[badmouthrising]

Sonic Youth (although I don't really like their last two albums), Pinback, Elliott Smith, Battles, The Black Heart Procession, Jim O'Rourke, Battles (best band ever?), Silver Jews, Wilco

[joewait]

Many people are not aware of the Zombies. they are the forgotten great band

[Hawker]

green day is not freaking talented. POWER CHORDS ARE NOT HARD TO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is a power chord for people who dont know what they are

E--------------
B--------------
G--------------
D-------------9999
A-------------9999
E-------------7777

that is a power chord. the numbers are according to fret and u can just move up and down the fret board doing that. That is what mostly greenday does. not hard at all

[jamal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REcMRrXXEP4&search=longview
longview

[vapid]

Hey some people here actually have good taste!

Modern Rock top 5 is hard, since thats a really broad genre, but i'll go with:

At the Drive In/ The Mars Volta
God Speed You! Black Emperor/ A silver mt. zion
Neutral Milk Hotel
Radiohead
Thrice (this one was really hard, explosions, sigur ros, dcfc, wilco, shins, decemberists all were hard to take out)

[Timmeh]

It says " Top modern rock bands" not "top ****ty rock bands" yeah and in your opinion the bands other posters as well as myself have listed you don't like, some of your bands you listed i don't like but you don't see me making a big deal about it calling you emo or pothead or whatever cult listens to your bands now do you?

[albertpujols]

To end the Coldplay-Radiohead battle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy6VG_dMoPc&search=Coldplay%20

---Radiohead and Coldplay---

[joe lucky]

Rock artists noone is mentioning:
Phoenix
Beulah
Of Montreal
Ozma

[Hawker]

oasis doesnt cry. coldyplay doesnt cry. ratm doesnt cry. incubus doesnt cry. RHCP doesnt cry. bloc party doesnt cry.

When i say s h i t t y i mean untalented. you can still like them but they are untalented which means cant play their instruments very well and songs sounding the same.

[vapid]

Sonic Youth (although I don't really like their last two albums), Pinback, Elliott Smith, Battles, The Black Heart Procession, Jim O'Rourke, Battles (best band ever?), Silver Jews, Wilco

I wouldve put elliot smith, but hes not really a band... heatmiser maybe?

And i totally forgot about sonic youth....

[xxxSuperStar]

there is a difference between good music to someone's ears and actual good music. Actual good music is actual singing and actual guitar playing uniqueness and variety

If you like that, I have two great bands for you that I've seen that are new.

The Format (their new album is one of the best of the year)
EastonAshe (their new album will be coming out in Sept), and actually have a great lead guitarist and 3 part harmonies. The stuff on their website (eastonashe.net is old).

BTW I'm both a Phoenix music promoter and review for publication and also play instruments myself.

[Hawker]

u know what im just glad u guys dont listen to fall out boy, my chemical romance or all american rejects.

[Timmeh]

oasis doesnt cry. coldyplay doesnt cry. ratm doesnt cry. incubus doesnt cry. RHCP doesnt cry. bloc party doesnt cry.

When i say s h i t t y i mean untalented. you can still like them but they are untalented which means untalented and dont sound any different. green day is talented, you don't have as much success and they've had over the years with no talent.

[jamal]

what are you talking about hawker. its so obvious they are talented, just look at the growth of their music between Dookie and AI...each of their songs has a unique and catchy arrangement (my fav is the beat in "when i come around") and they can be serious or funny, rock out or sing ballad-type songs(time of your life)

[badmouthrising]

I wouldve put elliot smith, but hes not really a band... heatmiser maybe?

I think he counts. He's one of the better American song writers ever, but Heatmiser was pretty good, so no matter what he's on my list somewhere.

[Hawker]

green day is talented, you don't have as much success and they've had over the years with no talent.

so i guess the same with fall out boy and all american rejects too right? GG.


what are you talking about hawker. its so obvious they are talented, just look at the growth of their music between Dookie and AI...each of their songs has a unique and catchy arrangement (my fav is the beat in "when i come around") and they can be serious or funny, rock out or sing ballad-type songs(time of your life)

When i started playing guitar for like the first month or whatever i was able to play dookie. 6 months later i could play time of your life. time of your life is a good song but not hard to play.

[vapid]

I think he counts. He's one of the better American song writers ever, but Heatmiser was pretty good, so no matter what he's on my list somewhere.

Well hes my favorite artist, so I would then definetly put him up there :rockon:

[jamal]

yeah, i dabble in guitar and no i dont find Dookie hard to play either (tho some AI songs are tough, like "holiday")...but that doesn't mean its was easy to come up with. alot of those arrangments and hooks are brilliant, and they fact they can be played so simply actually just reflects this.

[Velocirap31]

What about Thrice and Senses Fail? These are right under Greenday for a list of my favourite bands.

[joewait]

I take it no one else here is aware of the Zombies

[Hawker]

i love arguing about music. Im always open to new music. I tried hard to like panic at the disco but i couldnt they suck.

[vapid]

Brand New is definetly underrated. I cant believe yellowcard made it big and they didnt. Or TBS for that matter. The ****tier, post- John Nolan version.

[Timmeh]

u know what im just glad u guys dont listen to fall out boy, my chemical romance or all american rejects. yes, I can agree with this. All-American Rejects IMO play for girls only, they make these cheesy "I'm sad/Bad breakup" songs. Fall Out Boy just sucks completely. MCR just isn't my style

[Hawker]

every song has been played a 1000 times before its made up i bet

[Hawker]

yes, I can agree with this. All-American Rejects IMO play for girls only, they make these cheesy "I'm sad/Bad breakup" songs. Fall Out Boy just sucks completely. MCR just isn't my style

its a miracle we agree on something. Timmeh u kno i dont hate u right?

[xxxSuperStar]

i love arguing about music. Im always open to new music. I tried hard to like panic at the disco but i couldnt they suck.

wasn't a big fan either, at all.

[Velocirap31]

This is an awesome thread.

[Hawker]

damn right it is. i hope it doesnt go into off the court lounge.

[Zombles]

Godspeed!, A Silver Mt. Zion, Sigur Ros, Mogwai, and Explosions in the Sky are great, but they are not rock bands.

Ditto for Elliott Smith and Neutral Milk Hotel.

[Timmeh]

What about Thrice and Senses Fail? These are right under Greenday for a list of my favourite bands. haven't enjoyed Thrice too much but Senses Fail is good, if you like them you should check out Silverstein.

i love arguing about music. Im always open to new music. I tried hard to like panic at the disco but i couldnt they suck. agreed, I couldn't get into them either.
Brand New is definetly underrated yes they are.
its a miracle we agree on something. Timmeh u kno i dont hate u right? i know, it's just good off-season discussion

[albertpujols]

Don't like Panic at the Disco either. I'd panic whenever I hear their crap songs.

My Chemical Romance is not of my taste either. I never romanced with their literally chemical crap songs.

Fall Out Boy is something not of my style too. They should fall out of the music industry.

:cheers:

[Hawker]

You said "AVenged sevenfold really isn't talented"

Talent is based on musical composition. power chords arent hard to play. therefore not talented.

[Timmeh]

hey albertpujols, do you like Lostprophets? they're from Wales and they're fairly popular over here. have you heard of them?

[Kiss Murder]

The Rev from Avenged Sevenfold...he's a good drummer. So is Jon Theodore of The Mars Volta..

[badmouthrising]

Godspeed!, A Silver Mt. Zion, Sigur Ros, Mogwai, and Explosions in the Sky are great, but they are not rock bands.

Mogwai may be the closest thing to a rock band on that list.
I saw GY!BE a few years ago and was totally blown away, I wish I could say the same thing about seeing Sigua Ros. Put my ass too sleep.

[Velocirap31]

Yeah I already listen to SIlverstein.

[Velocirap31]

System of a down is pretty good to.

[Timmeh]

Avenged Sevenfold has some good guitar work but they're just too gothic for me. Bat Country wasn't that good and I got completely tuned out when they released The Beast and the Harlot

[xxxSuperStar]

Talent is based on musical composition. power chords arent hard to play. therefore not talented.

It depends on what kind of music you are talking about. As you know, Bob Dylan and a lot of Beatles songs aren't musical wonders, but lyrically,tone-wise, impact wise they are genius.

Those are all elements of the kind of music that we are talking about.

[Zombles]

Mogwai may be the closest thing to a rock band on that list.
I saw GY!BE a few years ago and was totally blown away, I wish I could say the same thing about seeing Sigua Ros. Put my ass too sleep.

Woah, woah, woah.

First off, I am in awe of any man that has seen Godspeed.

But when I saw Sigur Ros I was more emotionally connected to the band then at any other show. They are insanely intense live, not in the traditional way, and their drummer is epic; especially during the 4-5 minute crescendo in track 8 off ()

[JSub]

Why GREEN DAY is my favorite band and perhaps the greatest modern rock band right now:

The thing about Green Day is that they've shown growth and maturity with every album they release. Hawker, you're talk about the three power chord songs is a thing of the past. Apparently, you have not given the last album a chance or even a listen for that matter. "Jesus of Suburbia" and "Homecoming" are nine-minute rock ballads. They have multiple compositions and complex lyrical content that strive to tell a story. Some of the lines are pure genius. Take the sublot "City of the Damned" for instance:

At the center of the Earth
In the parking lot
Of the 7-11 where I was taught
The motto was just a lie
It says home is where your heart is
But what a shame
Cause everyone's heart
Doesn't beat the same
It's beating out of time

City of the dead
At the end of another lost highway
Signs misleading to nowhere
City of the damned
Lost children with dirty faces today
No one really seems to care

How can you say that is not beautiful? Does that not show a coming of age and maturity? Just because this album has been embraced by teeny boppers...does that make it any less amazing or significant? I listening to it and loved it the day it came out. Before all the accolades and praise (which are all well-deserved). Before it became what it is today and before Green Day's second rise to fame. Because it has indeed become mainstream and overplayed, does that take away from the effort and thought that this band poured into their masterpiece?

And even if you DO make the argument for three-power chord songs...has it ever occurred to you that great songs don't NEED to be complex to be great? I've played guitar for over 10 years and I've learned that no matter how many riffs or solos or chords you put into a song, does not make it a good song. "When I Come Around" is still one of the greatest songs of my generation, yet it only has about five chords. "In My Life" by the Bealtes is also hailed as one of the greatest songs ever made, yet it only has a few chords and a catchy riff at the beginning. Does simplicity negate the fact that these songs are still works of art? Do they not define the careers of bands that have become immortalized?

I have been an avid Green Day fan for as long as I remember. I still have the scratched up "Dookie" CD in my car...I bought it 12 YEARS ago, yet it is nothing less today than it was when I was in grade school. This band has come of age and will continue to build upon what they have accomplished for the past decade. Hate all you want, but if you open your ears to great music, you will realize why they are my favorite band and why they have been around for so very long.

[albertpujols]

hey albertpujols, do you like Lostprophets? they're from Wales and they're fairly popular over here. have you heard of them?

Yeah Iv'e seen a music video of it... Rooftops that's the song. Something I have heard, but one of those titles you never really pick up.

Mr. Jesus of Suburbia I'm guessing is here to disagree to all Greenday haters...

[joewait]

It depends on what kind of music you are talking about. As you know, Bob Dylan and a lot of Beatles songs aren't musical wonders, but lyrically,tone-wise, impact wise they are genius.

Those are all elements of the kind of music that we are talking about.

The Beatles had the moxt experimental, complex songs of any musical artist ever. They basically intiated every rock invention and blew open the doors with Revolver and Sgt Peppers. to say they arent' musical wonders is absurd.

[Qwyjibo]

"Jesus of Suburbia" and "Homecoming" are nine-minute rock ballads.

Probably my 2 favourite songs from Green Day... ever. Jesus of Suburbia gets the nod at #1 though.

[jamal]

j-sub=smart

[Hawker]

Liam gallagher of Oasis is the best songwriter of the '90s and today.

[Velocirap31]

Billy Joe Armstrong single handeldly made Greenday the greatest punk rock band of all time.

Homecoming is amazing btw

[Qwyjibo]

Liam gallagher of Oasis is the best songwriter of the '90s and today.

Didn't Noel write MOST of their songs??

[jamal]

billie joe, like i said, is seriously something special. hes one of those once-in-a-decade talents.

[joewait]

how the hell is no one else here familiar with the Zombies?

[Kiss Murder]

At The Drive-In
Sparta
The Mars Volta
Avenged Sevenfold
Atreyu - Some of their stuff. It's pretty good actually.
AFI
Coheed and Cambria
Audioslave
Rage Against The Machine
Anti-Flag
Dragonforce
A Dozen Furies

Those come at the top of my head...

[funkylikemonkey]

While everyone mourns Kurt Cobain, I secretly mourn Elliott Smith.

[badmouthrising]

Woah, woah, woah.

First off, I am in awe of any man that has seen Godspeed.

But when I saw Sigur Ros I was more emotionally connected to the band then at any other show. They are insanely intense live, not in the traditional way, and their drummer is epic; especially during the 4-5 minute crescendo in track 8 off ()

I think the issue is that I've never been a real fan of their music. I liked ( ), but wasn't blown away by it. I tried hard to like them, but I just didn't have it in me.
My roommate is really into them and he pretty much described his experience in seeing them like you. I don't know. It's been a while since I listened to them, maybe I'll give it another shot.

[Timmeh]

Billy Joe Armstrong single handeldly made Greenday the greatest punk rock band of all time. I wouldn't say Billie Joe did it all by himself. I think that Mike Dirnt is one of the most underrated bassists today. Plus I think the personalities of all three have also brought them this far.

[badmouthrising]

Billy Joe Armstrong single handeldly made Greenday the greatest punk rock band of all time.

Better then The Clash or The Stooges?

[Timmeh]

While everyone mourns Kurt Cobain, I secretly mourn Elliott Smith. if you look back at it, Nirvana's music really wasn't that good, but because Cobains death was so tragic then, it just made their music seem good for some reason. Still, I think the Foo Fighters are better than Nirvana, especially "Everlong", "My Hero", and "Learn to Fly"

[Kiss Murder]

Billy Joe Armstrong single handeldly made Greenday the greatest punk rock band of all time.

I'd like to call them Pop-Punk-Rock...as of now..

[funkylikemonkey]

Better than the MC5?

[xxxSuperStar]

The Beatles had the moxt experimental, complex songs of any musical artist ever. They basically intiated every rock invention and blew open the doors with Revolver and Sgt Peppers. to say they arent' musical wonders is absurd.

Sgt. Pepper and Revolver are late beatles albums, early beatles are some of the most simple songs in the world and even they've admitted many times that they were just making them to make money and records.

BTW: The Beatles are my favorite of all time and I'm a music reviewer, promoter and player (piano and guitar).

[Velocirap31]

Billy Joe is just clearly the leader of the band and wrote almost all their songs.

[Hawker]

The Clash = real punk.

Greenday =fake punk aka new punk

[JSub]

I think that Mike Dirnt is one of the most underrated bassists today.

That's a great observation. This man is seriously underrated. Billie Joe gets all the coverage since he is the front man and the face of Green Day, but Mike has revolutionized the concept of rock-bass. Another bassist that has done so in the modern day is Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. And lets not start with the profound impact of Tre Cool behind the GD drums.


Better then The Clash or The Stooges?

Nobody has forgotten about them. They planted the seeds for popular punk-rock, but Green Day has helped this music blossom.

[Timmeh]

For anyone who's looking for some new music, here are the bands I listen to, check them all out when you get enough time.

3 Doors Down, 30 Seconds To Mars, A Perfect Circle, Action Action, Aerosmith, Against Me!, Alkaline Trio, All-American Rejects, Amber Pacific, Andrew W.K., Anti-Flag, Aqualung, Atreyu, Audioslave, Avenged Sevenfold, Bayside, Beck, Bleed The Dream, Blink-182, Blur, Bouncing Souls, Box Car Racer, Brand New, Breaking Benjamin, Bullet For My Valentine, Butthole Surfers, Cake, Chevelle, Chiodos, Chronic Future, Circa Survive, Coheed And Cambria, Coldplay, Creed, Dandy Warhols, Death Cab For Cutie, Denver Harbor, Dios Malos, Dropkick Murphys, Dry Cell, Eiffel 65, Emanuel, Escape The Fate, Everclear, Fall Out Boy, Fastball, Finley Quaye, Flogging Molly, Foo Fighters, From Autumn To Ashes, Fuel, Funeral For A Friend, Godsmack, Gorillaz, Green Day, Harvey Danger, Hoobastank, Hot Snakes, Imogen Heap, Incubus, Interpol, Jem, Jersey, Jet, Jimmy Eat World, Johnny Cash, Joseph Arthur, Kasabian, Keane, Liam Lynch, Linkin Park, Lostprophets, Louis XIV, Mae, Matchbook Romance, Matt Pond, Maxeen, Midtown, Millencolin, Modest Mouse, Motion City Soundtrack, Muse, MXPX, My Chemical Romance, Nada Surf, New Found Glory, Nine Days, Nirvana, NOFX, Oleander, Our Lady Peace, Phantom Planet, Pinback, Plain White T's, Queens Of The Stoneage, Rancid, Reggie And The Full Effect, Rise Against, Roses Are Red, Saosin, Saves The Day, Seether, Semisonic, Senses Fail, Shinedown, Silverstein, Snow Patrol, So They Say, Somerset, South, Spider Bait, Spoon, Straylight Run, Strung Out, Stutterfly, Sublime, Sugarcult, Sum 41, Super Furry Animals, System Of A Down, Taking Back Sunday, The 88, The Academy Is..., The Adolescents, The Audition, The Bled, The Bravery, The Distillers, The Doves, The Explosion, The F Ups, The Forecast, The Hives, The Hoodoo Gurus, The Killers, The Offspring, The Paramedics (Local Christian Band), The Perishers, The Ramones, The Reunion Show, The Subways, The Walkmen, Three Days Grace, Thrice, Thursday, Tonic, Turin Brakes, U2, Unwritten Law, Weezer, White Stripes, and Yellowcard.

[joewait]

Sgt. Pepper and Revolver are late beatles albums, early beatles are some of the most simple songs in the world and even they've admitted many times that they were just making them to make money and records.

BTW: The Beatles are my favorite of all time and I'm a music reviewer, promoter and player (piano and guitar).

those are Beatles in their 2nd period. Even so, making a simple song into a great song is often much more difficult than making a great complex song. Too many bands these days try to create complex songs and fail miserably. Most simple songs just aren't good. Beatles could make amazing songs that were simple and complex.
if you're a reviewer what do you think of the Zombies?

[JSub]

The Clash = real punk.

Greenday =fake punk aka new punk

Is that all you have to stay with that essay I wrote? Stop talking out of your ASS with these one-liners.

[Kiss Murder]

I don't listen to The Clash or Greenday much...but I wouldn't say they suck because The Clash was great in their day..Greenday was good back in the real punk days but now they are mainstream...they got some good stuff going...but it's mostly pop-punk..


Greenday just made it big and people can't face the fact that they finally made it big, even though they sold out..

All bands want to make it big. It's not their fault..can't stay a crappy poor band forever.

[xxxSuperStar]

next time just post your myspace link

[Hawker]

Another bassist that has done so in the modern day is Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

top 5 ever

[Kiss Murder]

next time just post your myspace link

lol :applause:

[joewait]

you're not a reviewer. any musical historian would know about the Zombies

[Hawker]

i actually have a myspace music. It really sux tho. Most of it is lame **** i made up on the spot and recorded it.

[Timmeh]

next time just post your myspace link if i wanted to i would have, i was trying to be nice about it and not make people go look for it

[sydneyking]

I'm surprised these two bands haven't been mentioned:

The Strokes
Modest Mouse

... and I really hope that Jerm was being sarcastic.

[xxxSuperStar]

those are Beatles in their 2nd period. Even so, making a simple song into a great song is often much more difficult than making a great complex song. Too many bands these days try to create complex songs and fail miserably. Most simple songs just aren't good. Beatles could make amazing songs that were simple and complex.
if you're a reviewer what do you think of the Zombies?

If you are talking about the old Zombies, I think they are wonderful. Most people have heard their music, but don't know it. Their music is an example of something that was quite complex, but came across nice and smooth. A lot of the Zombies were known in music circles (producing, engineering) for their knowledge of music. They were pinoeers in many ways, in fact, I believe more complex than the early Beatles.

If there is a new Zombies, I'm not familiar with them.

[joe lucky]

you're not a reviewer. any musical historian would know about the Zombies

isn't this a modern list? If thats not the case contemporaries like the Turtles, Strawberry Alarm Clock and the Electric Prunes could be mentioned as well.

[SixerFan03]

Green Day are pretty good. The coolest thing about Green Day is what they do for their fans. They're the only band I can think of that bring out random audience members to play their songs. They teach three chords and the fan screws up. But it is still something that is pretty good. I also like that they have done a lot to keep their ticket prices low. I respect Pearl Jam trying to sue Ticket Master, but Green Day took the most practical solution. They keep their ticket prices low because each band member only takes $10 a show. There are people working at McDonald's that make more money than that.

I was never that big on the whole pop-punk revival thing (or worse Ska-Punk), but Green Day is sort of a guilty pleasure. They are more talented than 99% of the pop-punk crap. They have a very good bass player. I also like that they have tried to avoid being pinned down in one sound. They have constantly tried to evolve, while hoping to stay true to their roots. American Idiot is a sonically ambitious album and is actually pretty good from start to end (although the title track sucks, and so does "Wake Me Up...").

Anyway, this thread is kind of depressing. The first page mentions Nirvana and Rage Against the Machine which are no longer in existance. Also, a lot of bands mentioned simply aren't any good. One of my favorite bands of all-time, U2, released two good albums this decade, but it's nothing compared to their work in their prime (although better than that mid-90's junk).

There are a lot of good modern bands out there, but you have to look for them. I don't like a lot of indie rock, but there are some good indie bands. That being said, I'll list mainstream bands for simplicity:

Audioslave, Queens of the Stone Age, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Franz Ferdinand, White Stripes, System of a Down, Tool, and Radiohead (although I didn't like Kid A or Amnesiac much).

Some bands that have had moderate success: Muse and Mars Volta. Both are pretentious beyond belief, but they're pretty cool. Muse are better, imo. Mars Volta's most recent album is good, although they do have problems ending songs (so they make a giant concept album which basically comes out to one song broken into long parts). I won't label them the next Led Zeppelin, obviously. There singer is kind of annoying and their lyrics are painfully bad.

[Kiss Murder]

I'm surprised these two bands haven't been mentioned:

The Strokes
Modest Mouse

... and I really hope that Jerm was being sarcastic.


I can listen to The Strokes for a while...the drumming is so damn 80's style..I am not a fan.


I like Modest Mouse.

[JSub]

For anyone who's looking for some new music, here are the bands I listen to, check them all out when you get enough time.

3 Doors Down, 30 Seconds To Mars, A Perfect Circle, Action Action, Aerosmith, Against Me!, Alkaline Trio, All-American Rejects, Amber Pacific, Andrew W.K., Anti-Flag, Aqualung, Atreyu, Audioslave, Avenged Sevenfold, Bayside, Beck, Bleed The Dream, Blink-182, Blur, Bouncing Souls, Box Car Racer, Brand New, Breaking Benjamin, Bullet For My Valentine, Butthole Surfers, Cake, Chevelle, Chiodos, Chronic Future, Circa Survive, Coheed And Cambria, Coldplay, Creed, Dandy Warhols, Death Cab For Cutie, Denver Harbor, Dios Malos, Dropkick Murphys, Dry Cell, Eiffel 65, Emanuel, Escape The Fate, Everclear, Fall Out Boy, Fastball, Finley Quaye, Flogging Molly, Foo Fighters, From Autumn To Ashes, Fuel, Funeral For A Friend, Godsmack, Gorillaz, Green Day, Harvey Danger, Hoobastank, Hot Snakes, Imogen Heap, Incubus, Interpol, Jem, Jersey, Jet, Jimmy Eat World, Johnny Cash, Joseph Arthur, Kasabian, Keane, Liam Lynch, Linkin Park, Lostprophets, Louis XIV, Mae, Matchbook Romance, Matt Pond, Maxeen, Midtown, Millencolin, Modest Mouse, Motion City Soundtrack, Muse, MXPX, My Chemical Romance, Nada Surf, New Found Glory, Nine Days, Nirvana, NOFX, Oleander, Our Lady Peace, Phantom Planet, Pinback, Plain White T's, Queens Of The Stoneage, Rancid, Reggie And The Full Effect, Rise Against, Roses Are Red, Saosin, Saves The Day, Seether, Semisonic, Senses Fail, Shinedown, Silverstein, Snow Patrol, So They Say, Somerset, South, Spider Bait, Spoon, Straylight Run, Strung Out, Stutterfly, Sublime, Sugarcult, Sum 41, Super Furry Animals, System Of A Down, Taking Back Sunday, The 88, The Academy Is..., The Adolescents, The Audition, The Bled, The Bravery, The Distillers, The Doves, The Explosion, The F Ups, The Forecast, The Hives, The Hoodoo Gurus, The Killers, The Offspring, The Paramedics (Local Christian Band), The Perishers, The Ramones, The Reunion Show, The Subways, The Walkmen, Three Days Grace, Thrice, Thursday, Tonic, Turin Brakes, U2, Unwritten Law, Weezer, White Stripes, and Yellowcard.

Timmeh, you have some good music taste that is very similar to mine. I highlighted the bands I really enjoy on that extensive list. I will definitely check out the ones I havent heard of on that list.

[joewait]

If you are talking about the old Zombies, I think they are wonderful. Most people have heard their music, but don't know it. Their music is an example of something that was quite complex, but came across nice and smooth. A lot of the Zombies were known in music circles (producing, engineering) for their knowledge of music. They were pinoeers in many ways, in fact, I believe more complex than the early Beatles.

If there is a new Zombies, I'm not familiar with them.

I'm talking about the Zombies of the 60s. People know them for Shes not There, Tell her No, and Time of the Season. Odyseey and Oracle is one of greatest albums ever recorded in the rock cannon

[vapid]

I dunno, some people classify God Speed and Sigur Ros under prog rock or experimental rock... like i said before, the term "rock" nowadays is extremely extremely broad.

[Kiss Murder]

Some bands that have had moderate success: Muse and Mars Volta. Both are pretentious beyond belief, but they're pretty cool. Muse are better, imo. Mars Volta's most recent album is good, although they do have problems ending songs (so they make a giant concept album which basically comes out to one song broken into long parts). I won't label them the next Led Zeppelin, obviously. There singer is kind of annoying and their lyrics are painfully bad.

Lyrics aren't bad...it just goes with the concept and Cedric the lead singer has been notoriously known to be using crazy a$$ f*ck words...

The Drummer Jon Theodore...he's just...very very good and great..:rockon:

[Hawker]

RATM > Audioslave

same band but different singers. Cant understand lead singer of audioslave (dont know his name).

Zack de la rocha is so unique.

[Chamberlain]

AFI
Coheed & Cambria
Three Days Grace
Billy Talent
Oasis
Mars Volta
Rise Against
Radiohead
Motion City Soundtrack
30 Seconds to Mars
Snow Patrol
Silverchair (some)
Foo Fighters
My Chemical Romance
The Used
Taking Back Sunday
Early November

Maybe not the best, but personal favorites.

[Hawker]

Oasis

thank you.

[SixerFan03]

Isnt sonic youth taht really crazy band with out of tune stuff that sounds good? ahvent heard their songs i lll check em on myspace

Here you go, this is their most famous song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lve-oBLi5xU&search=Kool%20Thing%20Sonic%20Youth

Chuck D makes a guest apearance. This song is song by Kim. They are the ultimate New York no wave, art-rock, punk type stuff. They were playing this kind of stuff even after they moved to a major label. They were really ground breakers for Nirvana, even though nobody bought their albums (even when they were getting played on college radio stations, nobody bought their albums.)

[Velocirap31]

Two of the members of AFI are gay I heard. Their one debut single is cool, but honestly, I can't listen to them at all anymore.

[Chamberlain]

RATM > Audioslave

same band but different singers. Cant understand lead singer of audioslave (dont know his name).

Zack de la rocha is so unique.

It's Chris Cornell.. he's been in a few other bands also.

[Chamberlain]

Two of the members of AFI are gay I heard. Their one debut single is cool, but honestly, I can't listen to them at all anymore.

I know for a fact lead singer Davey Havok is bi-sexual.. so yeah, thats cool? haha. I like the album Sing the Sorrow, and the newest one December Underground, but before that they sucked IMO.

[Kiss Murder]

lol...I love how Rage and Audioslave are the same band but singers are different...They have the same formula in making their music...all their songs are the same but they are damn good.

[SixerFan03]

RATM > Audioslave

same band but different singers. Cant understand lead singer of audioslave (dont know his name).

Zack de la rocha is so unique.

Zack ruled. The singer of Audioslave is Chris Cornell. You need to check out his Soundgarden stuff. Also check out the side project with what became Pearl Jam--Temple of the Dog. Mind-blowing vocals. He's really lost a lot and is still a great singer. Both Soundgarden and Rage were better than Audioslave, but whatever. Audioslave is pretty damn good.

Most of my favorite bands are from the late 80's, early 90's Alternative: Nirvana, Soundgarden, U2, Alice In Chains, R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc. They're not alternative, but I was also a big fan of GNR (before they broke up, obviously). Velvet Revolver just can't capture that same vibe.

[Chamberlain]

lol...I love how Rage and Audioslave are the same band but singers are different...They have the same formula in making their music...all their songs are the same but they are damn good.

Yeah its true, I love both bands though, but in my opinion Audioslave>Rage. Most disagree.

[Kiss Murder]

I know for a fact lead singer Davey Havok is bi-sexual.. so yeah, thats cool? haha. I like the album Sing the Sorrow, and the newest one December Underground, but before that they sucked IMO.

Wow, You like the new AFI stuff aye..? Well..their new stuff is good but I don't think it beats their old school **** from Black Sails and Art of Drowning...

[Chamberlain]

Velvet Revolver just can't capture that same vibe.

They have their moments, but it can't touch Guns N' Roses.

[JSub]

American Idiot is a sonically ambitious album and is actually pretty good from start to end (although the title track sucks, and so does "Wake Me Up...").

I agree with this statement. I always skip over these songs when I play the album, although they arent that horrible. 11/13 great songs on one album is good enough for me. These remaining 2/13 are mediocre, but not total crap.


Oasis

You're dilusional if you put Oasis on a top 10 modern rock band list. Putting this band at #1 is utterly obsurd. "Wonderwall" and "Morning Glory" are the only notable tracks and they're on the same album. On top of that, this British band has zero class. For instance, they said "FCUK THE BEATLES." :banghead: In addition, they are racist and refuse to tour any Asian country. The leader singer also spits on stage on live television and fueds with his own brother. What the hell?

[In Limbo]

Radiohead

[Jerm]

At the center of the Earth
In the parking lot
Of the 7-11 where I was taught
The motto was just a lie
It says home is where your heart is
But what a shame
Cause everyone's heart
Doesn't beat the same
It's beating out of time

City of the dead
At the end of another lost highway
Signs misleading to nowhere
City of the damned
Lost children with dirty faces today
No one really seems to care

I'm not overly impressed by those lyrics. They're WEAK!

[Chamberlain]

Wow, You like the new AFI stuff aye..? Well..their new stuff is good but I don't think it beats their old school **** from Black Sails and Art of Drowning...

Well to tell ya the truth, I'm not familiar with a lot of it. I do like a lot of songs from the older stuff (especially total immortal), but some of it just made me sick. Davey was interviewed just last week, and he said he was glad they weren't mainstream back in those days because the music they made was ridiculous (the chicken song), so I took his word for it.

[xxxSuperStar]

I know for a fact lead singer Davey Havok is bi-sexual.. so yeah, thats cool? haha. I like the album Sing the Sorrow, and the newest one December Underground, but before that they sucked IMO.

How EXACTLY do you know? :roll:

[Kiss Murder]

Well to tell ya the truth, I'm not familiar with a lot of it. I do like a lot of songs from the older stuff (especially total immortal), but some of it just made me sick. Davey was interviewed just last week, and he said he was glad they weren't mainstream back in those days because the music they made was ridiculous (the chicken song), so I took his word for it.

You could see these guys longed for time on the tube...they just didn't want to be underground anymore and that's all cool.

You can't be underground forever! You will make good songs, and they will be hits!

Rock Forever :rockon:

[Velocirap31]

My heart is beating from me
I am standing all alone
Please call me only if you are coming home
Waste another year flies by
Waste a night or two
You taught me how to live
In the streets of shame
Where you've lost your dreams in the rain
There's no signs of hope
The stems and seeds of the last of the dope
There's a glow of light
The St. Jimmy is the spark in the night
Bearing gifts and trust
The fixture in the city of lust
What the hell's your name?
What's your pleasure and whats your pain?
Do you dream to much?
Do you think what you need is a crutch?
In the crowd of pain. St. Jimmy comes without any shame
He says “we're ****ed up”
But we're not the same
And mom and dad are the ones you can blame

From Homecoming, my favourite song by Green Day. These lyrics require some heavy talent if you ask me.

[JSub]

ol...I love how Rage and Audioslave are the same band but singers are different...They have the same formula in making their music...all their songs are the same but they are damn good.

This is almost completely false, aside from the fact that a lot of the songs are very good. RATM and Audioslave are two different breeds. Their songs do NOT sound the same. Audioslave is much more toned down and more media-friendly. Chris refuses to sing political lyrics, which is all that RATM did. I'm sad to see Tom hold back his guitar-genius to suit the needs of this new band. In RATM, anyone could easily hear his signature sound...but with Audiosalve, he sounds like any other guitarist. You cannot duplicate the RATM guitar sound...it is almost physically impossible...believe me, I have tried. One of the biggest regrets of my life is not attending a RATM show. Their break-up came completely out of the blue.

[Chamberlain]

How EXACTLY do you know? :roll:

We dated.


...

Hillarious. He said it in an interview.

[SixerFan03]

Talent is based on musical composition. power chords arent hard to play. therefore not talented.

No, they actually have a lot of talent, they just suck. Power chords are not the focus of the song. It's the double-bass, machine gun style drumming (which takes skill, but sucks), and the dual soloing which are actually technically skilled (but again, suck). Their singer sucks (he was worse when all he did was scream). There arrangements suck, jumping into major keys at the worst time. It's really a mess. Although they're better than a lot of MTV bands.


if you look back at it, Nirvana's music really wasn't that good, but because Cobains death was so tragic then, it just made their music seem good for some reason. Still, I think the Foo Fighters are better than Nirvana, especially "Everlong", "My Hero", and "Learn to Fly"

I don't know if you're old enough to remember, but Nirvana were huge before Cobain died. They lost popularity after he died--although Cobain gained popularity. Heart Shaped Box and All Apologies are better than Everlong and Learn to Fly. In Utero is better than the entire Foo Fighters catalog, and the Foo Fighters are still good.


Better then The Clash or The Stooges?

No, he's simply wrong. Green Day are the most popular punk band of all-time. The Clash were the best. The Sex Pistols managed to send shock waves through the UK, change culture, all while having one member who had any credibility. Johnny Rotten tears it up all over Never Mind the Bullocks. The rest of the band members make slow, repetitive, uninspired, dull music loaded with overdubs (Too many overdubs suck, unless you are creating a masterpiece like Loveless).

The Stooges aren't purely punk, but they're really cool. Iggy Pop is simply great--His voice, his attitude, etc.


Better than the MC5?

MC5 are painfully overrated. OK, the guy said Motherf***er on an album. That's great. They were the leaders of the Detroit Rock scene, but they don't come close the Stooges. They may be more overrated than the New York Dolls when it comes to pre-punk.

[Kiss Murder]

This is almost completely false, aside from the fact that a lot of the songs are very good. RATM and Audioslave are two different breeds. They're songs do NTO sound the same. Audioslave is much more toned down and more media-friendly. Chris refuses to sing political lyrics, which is all that RATM did. I'm sad to see Tom hold back his guitar-genius to suit the needs of this new band. In RATM, anyone could easily hear his signature sound...but with Audiosalve, he sounds like any other guitarist. You cannot duplicate the RATM guitar sound...it is almost physically impossible...believe me, I have tried. One of the biggest regrets of my life is not attending a RATM show. Their break-up came completely out of the blue.

Rage and Audioslave structure their music the same. I'm not saying they sound the same, but they have the same formula to their Sh!t.

[JSub]

I'm not saying they sound the same, but they have the same formula to their Sh!t.

The only band that has a "formula" to writing songs is Weezer...and they've sucked ASS ever since Pinkerton.

[vapid]

The only band that has a "formula" to writing songs is Weezer...and they've sucked ASS ever since Pinkerton.

pitchfork says they basically broke up.

[Kiss Murder]

pitchfork says they basically broke up.

They broke up the nerd-rock band because the singer didn't like sex..:rollingeyes:

Nerd-rock...boo..:no:

[badmouthrising]

While I like some Green Day stuff (mainly the stuff they did on Lookout), I feel that their credibility took a hit when they signed with a major (kind of like the Butthole Surfers.) People have a hard time forgiving that sort of thing as silly as it seems, although Green Day has since easily replaced the fans they lost in that transition.
I think the reason that people won't be talking about Green Day in the same breath as let's say The Stooges is because of the major label hype. I don't feel it's a bad thing, but sometimes reviewers and "industry"-types look at that as a negative.

(After re-reading the above it seems like I’m rambling and I apologize. I think it makes sense though…)

As far as Green Day being the most popular, I have no choice but to agree with that, because it's true. Soundscan never lies.

Speaking of Sonic Youth and Green Day, I have a bootleg of Green Day making fun of SY on my computer somewhere. Lee and Thurston were on a VH1 special a few years ago talking about Green Day selling a million records and how un-punk that is. It's basically Green Day having their fans play their instruments and it being really noisy and Billie Joe saying "Now you can be in Sonic Youth."

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Radiohead is one of my faves. But only up till Kid A. OK Computer may be the greatest album ever made.

Thom Yorkes solo album is kind of dissapointing, as is the new Mars Volta album.

A band I've been listening to alot lately is The Black Keys. They are one of my faves at the moment.

[SixerFan03]

Liam gallagher of Oasis is the best songwriter of the '90s and today.

Nah, he admitted to ripping of the Beatles. Sure, if you're going to rip someone off, make it be the Beatles. They've put out some good songs, and Whats the Story... is a great album (Definitely Maybe is also pretty good). I'm a little biased against them because Liam is an ass. I don't know how many times he's said something stupid--"Radiohead makes me want to kill myself"; "There is Elvis and then there is me. I won't tell you who I think is greater"; and my favorite "George Harrison is a nipple".

As far as post-grunge power-pop goes, I like Weezer's first two albums better than Oasis' two best. Although I would say Oasis is the better band, back in the mid-90s, Weezer was close. Of course, post Pinkerton Weezer has sucked completely. As average is Lyla is, it blows away anything done by Rivers Cuomo since.

[Velocirap31]

It's basically Green Day having their fans play their instruments and it being really noisy and Billie Joe saying "Now you can be in Sonic Youth."
:roll:

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Zack ruled. The singer of Audioslave is Chris Cornell. You need to check out his Soundgarden stuff. Also check out the side project with what became Pearl Jam--Temple of the Dog. Mind-blowing vocals. He's really lost a lot and is still a great singer. Both Soundgarden and Rage were better than Audioslave, but whatever. Audioslave is pretty damn good.

Most of my favorite bands are from the late 80's, early 90's Alternative: Nirvana, Soundgarden, U2, Alice In Chains, R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc. They're not alternative, but I was also a big fan of GNR (before they broke up, obviously). Velvet Revolver just can't capture that same vibe.

Have you heard Chris Cornells solo album Euphoria Morning he released around 1999? It's AMAZING but kind of flew under he radar. Alain Johannes and Natasha Schneider from Eleven (And currently bassist and keyboardist for Queens Of The Stone Age) wrote and produced it. It's really great and you should do yourself a favor and download it. I can send it to you if you PM me your name, or better yet, PM me if you have soulseek.

[dwillreg]

Green Day, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Offspring, All American Rejects, and Weezer pretty much rock.

[Velocirap31]

All American Rejects

Ewww....

[JSub]

It's basically Green Day having their fans play their instruments and it being really noisy and Billie Joe saying "Now you can be in Sonic Youth."

Funny thing is...Sonic Youth wouldnt have sold a single ablum if it werent for
Dookie. Heck, most of us wouldnt even know the name Sonic Youth. Basically, theyre a bunch of ungrateful d!cks*. "Longview" blew the doors open for punk-bands in the 90s. Please do not forget this.

[Chamberlain]

Have you heard Chris Cornells solo album Euphoria Morning he released around 1999? It's AMAZING but kind of flew under he radar. Alain Johannes and Natasha Schneider from Eleven (And currently bassist and keyboardist for Queens Of The Stone Age) wrote and produced it. It's really great and you should do yourself a favor and download it. I can send it to you if you PM me your name, or better yet, PM me if you have soulseek.

Cornell's solo album was amazing. I never heard it untill about 2003, and I was shocked that I never heard of it earlier. I can't understand how it was so under the radar.

[SixerFan03]

While I like some Green Day stuff (mainly the stuff they did on Lookout), I feel that their credibility took a hit when they signed with a major (kind of like the Butthole Surfers.) People have a hard time forgiving that sort of thing as silly as it seems, although Green Day has since easily replaced the fans they lost in that transition.

1. Bands often sign to major labels. If you were a fan back when nobody heard of them, that is fine. Otherwise, you have to accept that that is how people learn of new bands. The Ramones were on a major label. The Clash were on a major label.

2. The Insomniac album is basically inspired by ex-fans who were pissed off because they went to a major label.

3. Green Day did keep their old albums on Lookout for years. They no contractual obligation to do this. This basically kept Lookout around for a long time. Lookout badly mismanaged their money, and eventually most of their artists pulled off their back catalog. Eventually Green Day did as well (although the owner has no hard feelings even though it has killed his label).


I think the reason that people won't be talking about Green Day in the same breath as let's say The Stooges is because of the major label hype. I don't feel it's a bad thing, but sometimes reviewers and "industry"-types look at that as a negative.

The Stooges are great as inovators, Green Day is great as followers/popularizers. Iggy didn't sell sh*t until he got some help from David Bowie.


As far as Green Day being the most popular, I have no choice but to agree with that, because it's true. Soundscan never lies.

Speaking of Sonic Youth and Green Day, I have a bootleg of Green Day making fun of SY on my computer somewhere. Lee and Thurston were on a VH1 special a few years ago talking about Green Day selling a million records and how un-punk that is. It's basically Green Day having their fans play their instruments and it being really noisy and Billie Joe saying "Now you can be in Sonic Youth."

I don't know if that is exactly making fun of Sonic Youth. I guess it is telling a joke about them for their style. I would be suprised if Billie Joe actually hates Sonic Youth. Stronger words would be what he has said for Lynyrd Skynyrd: "Backwards ass hill-billy sh*t."

[SixerFan03]

Have you heard Chris Cornells solo album Euphoria Morning he released around 1999? It's AMAZING but kind of flew under he radar. Alain Johannes and Natasha Schneider from Eleven (And currently bassist and keyboardist for Queens Of The Stone Age) wrote and produced it. It's really great and you should do yourself a favor and download it. I can send it to you if you PM me your name, or better yet, PM me if you have soulseek.

I can get Soulseek. I've honestly never heard the album (I think I heard maybe a song). Cornell is amazing.


Funny thing is...Sonic Youth wouldnt have sold a single ablum if it werent for
Dookie. Heck, most of us wouldnt even know the name Sonic Youth. Basically, theyre a bunch of ungrateful d!cks*. "Longview" blew the doors open for punk-bands in the 90s. Please do not forget this.

No, they have Nirvana to thank. Not that Sonic Youth ever cared about selling albums. 1991: The Year that Punk Broke is the documentary on the tour with Sonic Youth and Nirvana. That's where a lot of Sonic Youth's popularity comes from.

[badmouthrising]

Funny thing is...Sonic Youth wouldnt have sold a single ablum if it werent for
Dookie. Heck, most of us wouldnt even know the name Sonic Youth. Basically, theyre a bunch of ungrateful d!cks*. "Longview" blew the doors open for punk-bands in the 90s. Please do not forget this.

I think Sonic Youth was helped by Nirvana making it big more then Green Day making it big.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Thurston Moore has 10x the talent Billie Joe does. I'd like to see Sonic Youth and Green Day in a battle of the bands. Green Day would win over the kiddies and the record sales, but wouldn't get the respect. Sonic Youth would get the respect, and that's all they want as is evidenced by their career and how they DIDN'T sell out like Green Day did.

[JSub]

No, they have Nirvana to thank. Not that Sonic Youth ever cared about selling albums. 1991: The Year that Punk Broke is the documentary on the tour with Sonic Youth and Nirvana. That's where a lot of Sonic Youth's popularity comes from.

You're probably right, but I see Nirvana as the band that blew the doors open in 1991 for GRUNGE bands like Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. I dont see SY fitting that mold set by Kurt.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Funny thing is...Sonic Youth wouldnt have sold a single ablum if it werent for
Dookie. Heck, most of us wouldnt even know the name Sonic Youth. Basically, theyre a bunch of ungrateful d!cks*. "Longview" blew the doors open for punk-bands in the 90s. Please do not forget this.


haha, Sonic Youth isn't even punk rock. What are you on? And for that matter neither is Green Day. Their pop, while Sonic Youth is art-rock.

I have a love/hate relationship with Sonic Youth, meaning I either love their songs or hate them. I hate the feedback stuff but the rest is amazing. Especially all of Goo.

Green Day just gets on my nerves. Their a travesty of a band.

[JtotheIzzo]

NoFX

[joe lucky]

The only band that has a "formula" to writing songs is Weezer...and they've sucked ASS ever since Pinkerton.

I admit that Pinkerton was their best album but too many people underrate Green Album and Maladroit. There are alot of good tracks of those albums which require repeated listends. Rivers' lyrics are getting more banal in the later albums but sometimes he reverts back to the old Rivers...sometimes.

[Velocirap31]

Green Day just gets on my nerves. Their a travesty of a band.

Maybe you should listen to more of their songs. You seem to hate them based on image and history.

[Hawker]

On top of that, this British band has zero class. For instance, they said "FCUK THE BEATLES."

he was probably drunk. And about the feuding with the brothers. They are brothers. Brothers are known to feud a bit.

[JSub]

ANY band that signs to a major record is technically a sell-out. I dont understand why people like to single of Green Day for doing so. They sold around 40,000 copies of Kerplunk! out of the back of their van after gigs. Basically, Green Day's rationale for signing to Reprise was that...if they were going to do this music thing and get their music heard, they had to take it as far as they could. They werent in it for the money, it was for the music. I find it hard to knock on any band with the right intentions. If they didnt sign to that label, we would be missing out on such great music. Is that what you'd really prefer?

[badmouthrising]

You're probably right, but I see Nirvana as the band that blew the doors open in 1991 for GRUNGE bands like Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. I dont see SY fitting that mold set by Kurt.

Well, the first few SY albums on DGC were pretty close too "grunge" (if that can be said...the label billed them as the godfathers of grunge). When Dirty was about too come out Courtney Love predicted that it was going to make SY very rich.

Also, the Kurt "mold" was inspired by a lot by what SY and a ton of other bands had already done. His success just helped people discover those bands that inspired him.

[SixerFan03]

Green Day just gets on my nerves. Their a travesty of a band.

Honestly, they're my guilty pleasure. Some people like Oasis, or a sh*tty hair metal band or something (maybe they like Abba), but I like Green Day. I really should hate them. They brought about a wave of copy-cat sellout pop-punk bands. But I like Green Day anyway. Oh well, whatever, nevermind.

[JtotheIzzo]

You're probably right, but I see Nirvana as the band that blew the doors open in 1991 for GRUNGE bands like Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. I dont see SY fitting that mold set by Kurt.

SY was around a long time before the Seattle grunge boys blew up. And they are not even in the same category.

Grunge crashed and burned, 10 years ago I thought Pearl Jam was the shyt, now I can't even listen to them.

Had Kurt Cobain not killed himself, he'd be far less than the legend he is today, he got out while the getting was good.

[JSub]

he was probably drunk.

No, the jackass said this at a British paper interview when reporters drew analogies between their look and sound to the Beatles.

[vapid]

Funny thing is...Sonic Youth wouldnt have sold a single ablum if it werent for
Dookie. Heck, most of us wouldnt even know the name Sonic Youth. Basically, theyre a bunch of ungrateful d!cks*. "Longview" blew the doors open for punk-bands in the 90s. Please do not forget this.

Sarcasm at its finest!

[Hawker]

Oasis has skill and talent and they truly rock. They have been around for over 15 years.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

ANY band that signs to a major record is technically a sell-out. I dont understand why people like to single of Green Day for doing so. They sold around 40,000 copies of Kerplunk! out of the back of their van after gigs. Basically, Green Day's rationale for signing to Reprise was that...if they were going to do this music thing and get their music heard, they had to take it as far as they could. They werent in it for the money, it was for the music. I find it hard to knock on any band with the right intentions. If they didnt sign to that label, we would be missing out on such great music. Is that what you'd really prefer?

No, it's just that they changed their formula in order to get airplay. I mean, that september song and accompanying video? What's that about? It was for TRL. The whole American Idiot album is the same way. It was popular to be political at the time, so they went with the flow.

[Hawker]

oasis rocks harder, has more talent, and all around better band then green day.

[joe lucky]

oasis rocks harder, has more talent, and all around better band then green day.
why are these bands being compared? Green Day isn't brit rock and Oasis isn't pop punk.

[JtotheIzzo]

anyone who likes Green Day or any other 'poppy-punk' band should really download some NOFX, they are the ones all punk bands copy, they will never sell out, they are far superior and have much more intelligent lyrics.

trust me NOFX is the best punk band and probably every young punk rockers favorite band.

[Velocirap31]

It was popular to be political at the time, so they went with the flow.

Green Day is not in it for the fame or money. They express their ideas and values through their music in order to communicate to us.

[Hawker]

BTW oasis toured in thailand and thats in asia so suck it JSUB.

[Hawker]

They express their ideas and values through their music in order to communicate to us.

LOL same with every other band.

[SixerFan03]

No, it's just that they changed their formula in order to get airplay. I mean, that september song and accompanying video? What's that about? It was for TRL. The whole American Idiot album is the same way. It was popular to be political at the time, so they went with the flow.

They were getting a sh*t-load of airplay before they ever changed their sound.

"Wake Me Up When September Ends" is a song about the death of Billie Joe's father. It is track 11 (ie 9/11). It comes right after Letterbomb to fit the rock opera story line as a moment of dispair. It makes perfect sense on the album without being an appeal to 12 year-old girls. The video was an idea from someone else. He presented his idea to the band and they liked it. They were on the "Rock Against Bush" compilation before they recorded American Idiot, so their politics started about a year before the album.

And Wake Me Up, sucks hard. I just wanted to give you background on the song.

[JSub]

No, it's just that they changed their formula in order to get airplay. I mean, that september song and accompanying video? What's that about? It was for TRL. The whole American Idiot album is the same way. It was popular to be political at the time, so they went with the flow.

So what, you claim Green Day soldout with "American Idiot"? I seem to recall "Dookie" as the sellout album. The 'September' song is about the death of his father when he was 10 years old. The director of the video put the 'War-In-Iraq' spin on the whole thing. I personally dont like that song too much anyways.

Green Day was gutsy to put out a political album. A lot of artists are following that mold today. What would you rather them do? Release another album about *********!on and smoking dope? Face it, the guys have matured. I dont like the fact that little girls now think Billie Joe is hot, but that doesn it this album any less great.

[Hawker]

billie joel is like 5 ft tall r ight?

[Hawker]

billie joel is like 5 ft tall r ight?

[badmouthrising]

No, it's just that they changed their formula in order to get airplay. I mean, that september song and accompanying video? What's that about? It was for TRL. The whole American Idiot album is the same way. It was popular to be political at the time, so they went with the flow.

The former-drummer for the Suicide Machines once told me that their label gave them a certain amount of freedom for the first few albums, but after their albums didn't sell very well that the label made them re-invent their sound to be more commercial friendly. That's what I imagine in my head with Green Day. Is it fair of me too do so? No, but it's hard not too think that way. At the end of the day Green Day is nothing more then a product to whatever label they are on. After the failure of an album like Nimrod too reach the commercial heights of Dookie, a label might try to be more involved creatively.

[Velocirap31]

The girls will like the people they see in the magazines and on tv. My sister has alot of those celebrity magazines and Billy Joe is on ALOT of them.

[Hawker]

ok english bands own. English people kno music. Oasis 1st album definetly maybe was UKs 3rd fastest selling album. OAsis's second album wahts teh story is UKs 2nd BIGGEST selling album and oasis's thrid ablum be here now is UK fastest selling album ever. EVER.

English people kno music thats where the best bands come from. Thats proof that oasis is the best modern band

[Hawker]

ok english bands own. English people kno music. Oasis 1st album definetly maybe was UKs 3rd fastest selling album. OAsis's second album wahts teh story is UKs 2nd BIGGEST selling album and oasis's thrid ablum be here now is UK fastest selling album ever. EVER.

English people kno music thats where the best bands come from. Thats proof that oasis is the best modern band

[Hawker]

ok english bands own. English people kno music. Oasis 1st album definetly maybe was UKs 3rd fastest selling album. OAsis's second album wahts teh story is UKs 2nd BIGGEST selling album and oasis's thrid ablum be here now is UK fastest selling album ever. EVER.

English people kno music thats where the best bands come from. Thats proof that oasis is the best modern band

[Hawker]

wow three post. my computer was being gay

[SixerFan03]

why are these bands being compared? Green Day isn't brit rock and Oasis isn't pop punk.

They both make pop based rock. They really aren't that different.


anyone who likes Green Day or any other 'poppy-punk' band should really download some NOFX, they are the ones all punk bands copy, they will never sell out, they are far superior and have much more intelligent lyrics.

trust me NOFX is the best punk band and probably every young punk rockers favorite band.

I don't like NOFX. Their singer has an aweful voice and they write songs about stupid stuff. It's pretty obvious that they were a huge influence on Blink 182 (actually Blink simply ripped off NOFX). If they were mainstream, most people that hate Green Day would hate NOFX as well. They're much better than Blink 182, but I still can't stand them.


but after their albums didn't sell very well that the label made them re-invent their sound to be more commercial friendly. That's what I imagine in my head with Green Day. Is it fair of me too do so? No, but it's hard not too think that way. At the end of the day Green Day is nothing more then a product to whatever label they are on. After the failure of an album like Nimrod too reach the commercial heights of Dookie, a label might try to be more involved creatively.

Nimrod was successful. But it wasn't as successful because it was too expansive. It left the pop-punk sound that was extremely successful for them. Green Day has been very successful and there was no need for a major label to alter their sound. In fact, if a major label did want to alter Green Day's sound, they would have asked them to return to Dookie era. They would ask them to sound more like Blink 182, Good Charlotte, or Sum 41.

American Idiot has slower songs because it followers the order of the Who song "A Quick One...". (That song is great, by the way, check it out). The order is fast song, slow song, slow song, fast song, etc. It's a mini-rock opera that Green Day expanded to a full Rock Opera (with a story line similar to Husker Du's Zen Arcade).

[JSub]

The girls will like the people they see in the magazines and on tv. My sister has alot of those celebrity magazines and Billy Joe is on ALOT of them.

My biggest pet peeve. All the recent Green Day concerts I've attended have all these little middle school girls with their parents as chaperones. This has forced the band to be more structured with their setlist and performance. I remember in old concerts, the band would ask the audience for song requests. They would also play 3 hour sets, which proved to be quite a workout. The thing I hate most about the new shows is that they replaced "When I Come Around" with the song "Blvd of Broken Dreams" as the finale. What the crap?! Completely pisses me off. I used to get moshed to death at those old shows...now I just stand around and enjoy the music with a bunch of kids. Blah.

[Hawker]

I used to get moshed to death at those old shows...now I just stand around and enjoy the music with a bunch of kids. Blah.

Cuys they dont rock hard enough and they are sell outs

[Velocirap31]

Cuys they dont rock hard enough and they are sell outs

We get that you don't like them, but you are wrong. You can have your opinion though.

[JSub]

Hawker has been reduced to a stuttering idiot...not that he wasnt one to begin with.

[SixerFan03]

How did this thing become the Green Day thread? They are not the only band out there today, and they are certainly not the best. They are not sellouts--that is a bullsh*t term. I would explain it to you, but instead check out the Tool song "Hooker with a Pen!s". He does a much better job that I can possibly do.

I hope Green Day's next album is more abrassive so they can try to shed some of their new audience.

[Velocirap31]

I hope Green Day's next album is more abrassive so they can try to shed some of their new audience.

Billy Joe should just shave all his hair off and the girls would go away.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Yeah, let's stop taling about Green Day. Their like the Darko of music on this board. (I was gonna use Kobe, but Kobes got the game to back it up)

Any Jeff Buckley fans? SixerFan, you probably are, right? If you like Chris Cornell for his voice you have to be a Jeff Buckley fan.

[Black Joker]

eh. i like maroon 5, jack johnson, and coldplay

[badmouthrising]

American Idiot has slower songs because it followers the order of the Who song "A Quick One...".

Cello, Cello, Cello, Cello, Cello, Cello, Cello, Cello....

I never thought I'd be discussing Green Day on a basketball message board.

[Kiss Murder]

I forgot about Rush....and Smashing Pumpkins...

[Kiss Murder]

Hawker, may I ask your age? How in the hell are sales figures proof? by that logic Britney Spears is one of the world's all-time greatest artists...

What? She isn't?