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the game was ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL back then, players were like gladiators back then
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lol He's not wrong. Any thoughts, 3ball? :oldlol:
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is that Magic? The clumsy nigguh who falls on his ass while trying to reach for a rebound and then stays seated on his ass until the possession is over. Then he immediately springs up and asks for the ball.
Were they just rounding up homeless nigguhs in trucks for NBA games? Where the hell were they finding these scrubs? This is a "Finals" game btw.
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is that Magic? The clumsy nigguh who falls on his ass while trying to reach for a rebound and then stays seated on his ass until the possession is over. Then he immediately springs up and asks for the ball.
Were they just rounding up homeless nigguhs in trucks for NBA games? Where the hell were they finding these scrubs? This is a "Finals" game btw.
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i cant...
players would get roasted on the post-game shows for shit like that all day long
what a glorified era
LOL at these isolated clips!!! Go look at ANY clips from the perimeter manufactured stars after the 2005 defensive highjack and you see a red carpet stroll down the lane when the NBA basically neutered defenses.
Here's a clip of Steve Nash, a guy who played from 1997 to 2014 and won two MVP's in 2006 and 07 thanks to the rule changes the NBA put in, breaking it down to a basic level and confirming how people like David Stern, Rob Thorn and Jerry Colangelo to name a few altered all the defensive rules starting from the mid 90's (after the panic of the MJ
^Look at this disillusioned loser
Look at MJ's 50-point games, the one against Orlando, HORRIBLE defense
:facepalm stop it. Of course a 90s player would glorify their own era by saying how tough it was back then. Stop exaggerating it, defense was not tough or physical back then like these old heads keep saying it was.
Really, the early 90's Orlando Magic one of the worst teams in the league had horrible defense, you don't say?!?
Listen to what Steve Nash and Vince Carter are saying, they have FORGOTTEN MORE BASKETBALL than you will ever know in your entire life and Nash is basically attributing his superstar status to the rule changes that happened in the mid 2005's and Vince KNOWS multiple so called modern "stars" could not handle the physicality of those days.
The truth is the NBA lost their collective minds AGAIN after the Spurs, Pistons and Pacers dominated the league from 2003 to 2005 making the manufactured "stars" of the era like Kobe, Carter, Iverson, LeBald, T-Mac and Wade to name a few look putrid in the process.
Here's another little longer video explaining all this:
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Millennials just can't get over the fact that David Stern and Jerry Colangelo basically sanitized and DUMBED DOWN the game so your little sensitive behinds could digested it and to prop up the modern current crop of flawed players.
Did showtime80s just imply LeBron, Kobe, Wade, T-Mac, Iverson and Vince Carter weren’t legitimate stars? That’s just batshit insane my dude.
[QUOTE=keep-itreal]:facepalm stop it. Of course a 90s player would glorify their own era by saying how tough it was back then. Stop exaggerating it, defense was not tough or physical back then like these old heads keep saying it was.[/QUOTE]
It's like everything cultural: movies, music, fashion. Everyone is convinced that what was going on in their own youth was the pinnacle, and everything since is crap. When in reality, more often than not, things are getting better. It's pure nostalgia.
Whose alt is showtime80?
Can only be a few possible options.
[QUOTE=StrongLurk]Whose alt is showtime80?
Can only be a few possible options.[/QUOTE]
3ball?
Although his posting style reminds me of Bizil (who is not a troll). Don’t think Bizil would troll like that though.
LOL at thinking Steve Nash and Vince Carter are 90's players. Steve played 3 seasons in the 90's and Vince only played the 99 shortened season.
Here's Kobe also slamming the current AAU infested NBA:
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Jesus Christ! Go try to find some clips of players that were playing in the 80's and early 90's talking about how "soft" it was. I'll save you the time, YOU WON'T FIND ANY!!!
[QUOTE=Showtime80']LOL at thinking Steve Nash and Vince Carter are 90's players. Steve played 3 seasons in the 90's and Vince only played the 99 shortened season.
Here's Kobe also slamming the current AAU infested NBA:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyKG1jMEE8[/url]
Jesus Christ! Go try to find some clips of players that were playing in the 80's and early 90's talking about how "soft" it was. I'll save you the time, YOU WON'T FIND ANY!!![/QUOTE]
Lmao there’s a clip of Wilt talking about how he’d dominate the “current NBA” in the 90s. People always think stuff was the best from their prime.
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The NBA is definitely one of the things that got WAY WORSE over time and like Kobe said, AAU RUINED IT!!!
[QUOTE=Showtime80']The NBA is definitely one of the things that got WAY WORSE over time and like Kobe said, AAU RUINED IT!!![/QUOTE]
Explanation points and capital letters don’t equal a good argument.
You just seem like you’re screaming and pounding the keyboard.
charmin soft era:oldlol:
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not enough pasty, chubby europeans having a 3 pt shooting contest and scoring 150 pts in regulation.
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One game suspension.
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One game suspension.
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the mailman's elbow = most underrated weapon in nba history.
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woulda been an mma god.
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This. I refer to these early 90's playoff series all the time. I dare anyone to find me a series this physical in this era.
[QUOTE=keep-itreal]:facepalm stop it. Of course a 90s player would glorify their own era by saying how tough it was back then. Stop exaggerating it, defense was not tough or physical back then like these old heads keep saying it was.[/QUOTE]
This makes no sense. Why would someone older glorify the past if the present was just as good? There would be no reason to. Obviously everyone would prefer if the current game was just as physical as the past, but it wasn't so we are left with two groups:
1. People who saw it can reflect on it and appreciate it.
2. People who didn't see it can complain, feel insecure, and wonder what it might have been like to see it.
No one in their right fvcking mind would prefer viewing only this era rather than viewing this era and the 90s. The insecurity needs to stop. Be thankful that there are those around you that can describe to you what you missed. Anything else is biting the hand that feeds.
Another one.
Too EZ
[QUOTE=Showtime80']LOL at these isolated clips!!! Go look at ANY clips from the perimeter manufactured stars after the 2005 defensive highjack and you see a red carpet stroll down the lane when the NBA basically neutered defenses.
Here's a clip of Steve Nash, a guy who played from 1997 to 2014 and won two MVP's in 2006 and 07 thanks to the rule changes the NBA put in, breaking it down to a basic level and confirming how people like David Stern, Rob Thorn and Jerry Colangelo to name a few altered all the defensive rules starting from the mid 90's (after the panic of the MJ
Another one
[QUOTE=Showtime80']LOL at these isolated clips!!! Go look at ANY clips from the perimeter manufactured stars after the 2005 defensive highjack and you see a red carpet stroll down the lane when the NBA basically neutered defenses.
Here's a clip of Steve Nash, a guy who played from 1997 to 2014 and won two MVP's in 2006 and 07 thanks to the rule changes the NBA put in, breaking it down to a basic level and confirming how people like David Stern, Rob Thorn and Jerry Colangelo to name a few altered all the defensive rules starting from the mid 90's (after the panic of the MJ
[QUOTE=egokiller]This makes no sense. Why would someone older glorify the past if the present was just as good? There would be no reason to. Obviously everyone would prefer if the current game was just as physical as the past, but it wasn't so we are left with two groups:
1. People who saw it can reflect on it and appreciate it.
2. [B]People who didn't see it can complain, feel insecure, and wonder what it might have been like to see it.[/B]
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ISH especially
[QUOTE=egokiller]This makes no sense. Why would someone older glorify the past if the present was just as good? There would be no reason to.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever heard anyone say "when I was a teenager, the music sucked"?
Me neither.
Dennis Rodman hacking Pippen and tossing him out of bounds.
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Malone destroys Isiah.
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Knicks defending Jordan multiple plays.
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I take it the youngins have nothing to say about this. Not surprised no one has addressed it.
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I don't think these kids realize that with the rule changes. They put a lot of emphasis on freedom of movement. Especially off the ball. The ticky tack calls today really get on my nerves. Back in the 90's there was a lot more chunking as you tried to come through the paint. The refs also let players grab and hold more so it was a lot more difficult to get to your spots. There was hand checking. These things was way more physically taxing than what we see today.
Nowadays there's a lot more touch fouls. Every bang bang play is called (either a charge or block). In the 90's those type of plays would be no calls way more often. Not to mention all the dirty flagrant stuff that went on were players weren't even ejected.
Yes back in the 90's the game(especially the playoffs) was more physical than today.
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[QUOTE=Replay32]I take it the youngins have nothing to say about this. Not surprised no one has addressed it.
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Don't do em like that.:roll:
Back when the rules allowed men to play a mans game instead of today where the rules make everyone play this soft as Charmin brand of basketball.:lol
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Ill give you credit thats actually a good one. My pops used to come at me with that shit all the time when i was acting like a punk. Used to get on my damn nerves.
Its true that every generation gets a little softer. Its just way society is heading with all the anti bullying and non violence stuff. Dont get me wrong its s good thing but anyone who argues this is just in denial.
Don't we have players who played in both eras, coaches, and ppl who changed rules already stated that the rules were tougher for perimeter players back then?
They changed the rules to make it more easier. There are more rules than just hand checking. The NBA wanted to faster pace, less physical d, and easier way for teams to score. Less time to bring the ball up to half court, 3 defensive seconds, more emphasis on hand checking, including forearms.
Other stuff came in too. Difference in coaching philosophy, more emphasis on spacing, and the value of the 3 point shot.
The NBA don't want another late 90s-early 00s play style. They believed that increase in scoring will equal higher ratings and money. So, that's where we are now.
There were articles back then that was complaining about the amount of iso plays and low scoring games back in the 00s. But we still have a bunch of also plays now.
But anyway, you can't really take a bunch of iso plays and be like "That's how they played all the time". You'll miss out on the double team, the triple team, sometimes you'll miss out when they hold a guy off the ball, or when they actually put in pressure. Sometimes the ball denial is great and the pressure is great and you would have to pass.
Even in today's game, especially in the playoffs, players could get away with some things. The refs would allow some more physical ball. It isn't as consistent as today. And the improve spacing is much more of a huge deal now than back then.
[QUOTE=Bronbron23]Ill give you credit thats actually a good one. My pops used to come at me with that shit all the time when i was acting like a punk. Used to get on my damn nerves.[/QUOTE]
$1.00 would get us a damn milkshake, 2 cheesburgers and a large fry :rant
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