I guess the roster is set? Will look much different by March though I'm sure!
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I guess the roster is set? Will look much different by March though I'm sure!
be interesting to see if they pick up any options past this season. I'd guess not
Ryan Miller: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Malik Beasley went through portions of practice today. Will Hardy mentioned Friday he’s hopeful Beasley will play in the season opener[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/millerjryan"]Twitter millerjryan[/URL]
Michael Singer: Michael Malone said Jamal Murray participated in a lot of today’s practice. Said he really wanted to play Friday at GSW but it came down to risk/reward. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Malone said come opening night at Utah, Murray “should be good to go.”[/URL] Sounded like in limited minutes.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/msinger"]Twitter msinger[/URL]
Michael Singer: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Nikola Jokic said his wrist was fine. Of his wrap? “Maybe it’s a new trend.”[/URL] Asked him if there was hesitation from 3 because of his wrist. He said no, the hesitation is because he hasn’t been hitting his shots.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/msinger"]Twitter msinger[/URL]
[url]https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/jazz-game-minutes-prediction-2022-23-lauri-markkanen#gid=ci02ae0a8140002635&pid=mike-conley-25-30-minutes-per-game[/url]
[QUOTE]Starting Beasley would place Clarkson in his familiar role as the sixth man and provide the Jazz with instant offense from the bench.
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I think they want to separate Clarkson and Sexton like they had to with Mitchell
[QUOTE][B]Analysis[/B]: He will provide leadership and experience based on his tenure in the league, and Coach Hardy will lean on his floor-general abilities. As the season progresses, expect Conley's minutes to decrease due to age and the emergence of newer and younger players adapting to Utah's system.
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His minutes will decrease cuz he's on a better team hopefully. He's easily their best player still
[QUOTE][h=3]Jordan Clarkson: 32-35 minutes per game.[/h][/QUOTE]
be hard to win any games with him starting and playing big minutes. Ugly way to tank!
[QUOTE][B]Analysis[/B]: The Jazz will need 'TBG' (The Bucket Getter) on full display every night, guiding the Jazz and keeping his stock rising across the league. The NBA is a business, and Clarkson could yield additional dividends in a trade. Early on, expect him to play all the minutes he can handle, whether as a starter or reserve.
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I can only see his stock going down. He's awful!
[QUOTE]Foul trouble may stymie some game minutes as Markannen will be tested as a small forward in this NBA. Notable small forwards Markanen will face are LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Jason Tatum, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, and Khris Middleton. As long as Markkanen can avoid foul trouble, the minutes will be plentiful, and Jazz Nation could witness him receiving the Most Improved Player award.
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might be on another team when he gets the award
[QUOTE][B]Analysis[/B]: Olynyk boasts a legitimate skill set and will demand minutes as a rebounder, passer, and as a shooter who can [I]stretch [/I]the floor. Foul issues may also hinder his minutes, but Markkanen can play his position. Olynyk has a respectable NBA resume so expect a sold 30 minutes on a nightly basis.
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rebounder? He's got a high IQ. Smart player
[QUOTE]Although Coach Hardy will welcome Vanderbilt's upside, his downside is easily replaceable. Even Vanderbilt's upside can be challenged by Markkanen, Olynyk, and newcomer Walker Kessler.
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none of them do what he does. Despite playing big he's probably the only great rebounder on the team. Kessler might make a defensive impact that is comparable
[QUOTE]Look for Sexton, Kessler, and Gay to begin the season by logging 20-25 minutes per game, with additional minutes being distributed to Alexander-Walker. Again, the game script could alter the predicted allotment of minutes.
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Beasley? Udoka will play once he's able.
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50497248/why-jordan-clarkson-is-reshaping-his-game-with-young-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]That's when it hit Clarkson: He had to initiate the offense.
That was different.
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looks exactly the same to me. Clarkson pounding the ball while everyone stands around watching. He pulls up for a horrible shot. Brick
[QUOTE]"He's making extra passes for guys, doing things that I don't think he's really had to do throughout his career," Conley said. "You'd just go out there and say, 'JC, go score, go score, go score.'' And now it's like, 'Hey, we got a lot of guys that can do that. We need more ball movement', and he goes out there and he does it."
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he could have always done those things instead he dribbles and bricks
Ryan Miller: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Udoka Azubuike is OUT for Utah’s season opener.[/URL] No one else is on the injury report.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/millerjryan"]Twitter millerjryan[/URL]
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50497686/patrick-kinahan-jazz-cant-go-halfway-on-tanking[/url]
[QUOTE]At its essence, owner Ryan Smith and his team of executives broke up a virtual guaranteed playoff team, albeit one that never advanced beyond the second round, by trading All-Stars Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell. In return, the organization acquired financial flexibility and a host of draft picks stretching out over the next several years.
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barely made the playoff last year
[QUOTE]In Hardy's case, he will have ample time over the coming seasons to prove his merit. Much like during the Quin Snyder era, the roster's lack of talent will dictate looking beyond the team's record to make a legitimate assessment on Hardy's ability to coach.
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Gobert can play. Not sure COTM can coach though
[QUOTE]Except in rare instances, usually involving future Hall of Fame players, youth doesn't win in the NBA. It's easy to understand Hardy's choice to go with veterans, but the decision may not be in the organization's best interests.
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got to play them to trade them
[QUOTE]From a competitive standpoint, Hardy also must guard against doling out undeserved playing time for the sake of developing young players. He needs to set the standard that all minutes are earned without any entitlement.
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and that appears to be the case so far. Luckily Hardy played at a small school and they likely won't have anyone from his alma mater to get playing time just because like Hood and Grayson did
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50497894/more-streaming-options-coming-ryan-smith-gives-update-on-future-jazz-broadcast-deal[/url]
[QUOTE]Smith made it very clear that no matter what Utah's new broadcasting deal ends up being, there will be more streaming options for fans of his team. Smith's looking to create a better experience for those that are watching at home — something he said team CEO Danny Ainge, who doesn't travel with the team, reminds him often as Ainge watches games from home.
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At least you're doing something Danny. Having any fun yet?
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50498043/ryan-smith-calls-rebuild-an-exciting-time-to-be-a-jazz-fan[/url]
[QUOTE]"I think it's an exciting time to be a Jazz fan," Smith said Tuesday. "I really do. … We've got a group of players who are hungry. There's an energy, there's an excitement, there's exciting players. We're young, but we also have a group of veterans, which is kind of unique. And I think we've got one of the most exciting young coaches in the league.
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Clarkson is starting. Anything but exciting
[QUOTE]"Let's just be honest, we're a team and a city that has got to build through the draft," Smith said. "We have to. You look at Donovan (Mitchell), you look at Rudy (Gobert), look who we drafted, that's where we've basically created these people that our fan base loves."
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you created them? Like Sloan did for Stockton and Malone? :roll:
[url]https://kslsports.com/494345/jazz-host-nuggets-in-season-opener-with-new-roster/[/url]
[QUOTE][B]Walker Kessler –[/B] The rookie center was acquired in the Gobert trade and was the Jazz most promising first-year player in each of the four preseason games.
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He played the most because of lack of depth. Not sure that makes him more promising than the lottery pick
[url]https://kslsports.com/494341/danny-ainge-ryan-smith-questions-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]Although the Jazz front office has not commented on this specifically, but a big reason why certain teams are in a rebuild is because of 2023 NBA Draft prospect [URL="https://kslsports.com/491326/who-is-victor-wembanyama-and-why-do-the-utah-jazz-want-to-draft-him/"]Victor Wembanyama from France[/URL]. The 7’4 big man is projected to be a generational talent in the NBA. [URL="https://kslsports.com/493771/french-star-victor-wembanyama-set-for-his-first-taste-of-nba-life/"]Wembanyama and his Paris-based[/URL] team faced the G League Ignite in a pair of exhibition games in the United States earlier this month. Ainge hasn’t had a chance to see Wembanyama in person, yet.
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sounds like Ainge likes the 2024 draft more but I think that was with high schoolers and that doesn't sound like it's happening now
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/lets-lose-some-money-together-sportsbooks-preview-of-the-2022-23-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]If the Jazz go under 23 wins, they will need to get absolutely crushed during the first three months of the season while they still play their best veteran talent like Mike Conley and Kelly Olynyk. The incredibly difficult first segment of Utah’s season might oblige that.
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you do realize Clarkson is starting for the Jazz? Hard to imagine them winning many games with him starting
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/10/18/23412130/utah-jazz-start-the-season-facing-nikola-jokic-and-the-denver-nuggets[/url]
[QUOTE]Having all their main rotation guys available is the ideal situation if the Jazz are looking to win the game, but it will also keep the Jazz from being able to play some of the young players they received in their blockbuster trades. Players like Walker Kessler and Ochai Agbaji need a chance to get on the floor. What’s the most likely scenario? The Jazz are probably going to allow Will Hardy to coach like he’s competing for the playoffs. If anything, this season is as much a chance for Hardy to develop as a coach as it is for the players. After a third of the season, if the losses have racked up, the Jazz will likely move some of the veterans to make sure the younger players get more minutes.
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and there is the Stars until the vets are moved.
Michael Scotto: Sources: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Minnesota Timberwolves have waived forward Eric Paschall,[/URL] @********* has learned. In three NBA seasons, Paschall has averaged 9.8 points on 49.4 percent shooting.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto"]Twitter MikeAScotto[/URL]
Dane Moore: Chris Finch on the waiving of Eric Paschall [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“He had a little bit of soreness in and around his achilles. He wasn’t really able to kinda show us what he could do in camp, which is unfortunate because we were very excited about the opportunity to bring him in in the summertime.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/DaneMooreNBA"]Twitter DaneMooreNBA[/URL]
[url]https://gleague.nba.com/2022-nba-g-league-draft[/url]
Stars with the 4th pick. 2 2nds
be hard to take Kessler out of the rotation when Udoka is ready. Olynyk will have to go soon.
Sexton is better than Mitchell. Faster, better shooter, better finisher, gets after it on D...
Clarkson still sucks. At least Hardy benched him down the stretch.
Gay might make himself tradable?
Great to see everyone playing D for a change. Sharing the ball. Pushing it...
[QUOTE][INDENT] Walker Kessler getting early minutes against Nikola Jokic.
Will Hardy said the Jazz wouldn't do him any favors if they tried to protect him against playing against the best NBA players.
Early minutes, he's been fine, gets a quick bucket off an offensive put back.
— Ben Anderson (@BensHoops) [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops/status/1582907046961111041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]October 20, 2022[/URL]
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Seemed like he did. Lauri was covering Jokic not Kessler
[INDENT][url]https://kslsports.com/494374/ryan-smith-dj-pk-utah-market-size/[/url]
[QUOTE]“A lot of teams have just basically become draft teams and trade teams, and that’s a trend that you see,” Smith said. “You don’t rule out free agency, it’s just a little bit harder as you look at the free agent class next year and say, ‘How many top 20 or top 40 players are coming up?’ There’s just very few.”
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just a few and you just got rid of at least one[/INDENT]
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/20/23407629/utah-jazz-happy-in-win-over-denver-nuggets[/url]
[QUOTE]Now, Vanderbilt did foul out of the game midway through the fourth quarter and his foul trouble kept him off the court more than Hardy probably would have liked. But that kind of energy was infectious and led to some great play from rookie Walker Kessler.
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Right now he'd ideally be coming off the bench as an energy guy. Going to have to develop offensively to be more than that
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/19/23414081/utah-jazz-rookies-head-coach-will-hardy-victorious[/url]
[QUOTE]With the nerves of the first game behind them, the Jazz head out onto the road and things won’t get any easier. The second opponent the Jazz face will be Rudy Gobert and the Minnesota Timberwolves on Friday.
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Wolves better play better around Rudy in that one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2022/10/20/23414061/are-the-utah-jazz-good-tanking-or-not-collin-sexton-owns-jokic[/url]
[QUOTE]So, are the Jazz good? They looked pretty good last night. But what does that mean for them going forward? Much has been discussed lately about tanking, but watching this team play, they are just built too well to be a tanking team. They probably aren’t a playoff team, but then again, who really knows at this point? If certain guys take some strides and play like they did last night, they could absolutely squeeze into the play-in game, which in my opinion would be so much fun. I understand the tanking sentiment, but looking at the odds it just doesn’t look promising enough to throw a whole season away and the “winning culture” that has been talked about recently. The Jazz now have the draft capital and plenty of young prospects to pull off something crazy if they wanted to try and make a run at the #1 pick even without tanking. But then again, whoever ends up with that #1 pick probably isn’t trading it. Bottom line, this Jazz team came out on fire last night, and it was awesome to watch, and gives us hope that this season can be fun to get behind this new-look bunch.It’s crazy how refreshing it felt watching this team play last night. A new sense of pace. A new sense of determination, goals, and aspirations. Are they playing for a championship? Probably not. But these guys played hard, played as a team, and played to win. And the vibes?? They were immaculate.
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as they trade vets it will look different. They literally have no one to replace Conley though getting rid of Clarkson would make you better.
[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/269097/Lakers-Passed-On-Utahs-Offer-Of-Bogdanovic-Conley-Gay-2023-FRP-For-Westbrook-FRPs-In-2027-2029[/url]
[QUOTE]The Los Angeles Lakers had the opportunity this offseason to acquire Bojan Bogdanovic, Mike Conley, Rudy Gay and a 2023 first round pick from the Utah Jazz in exchange for Russell Westbrook and their first round picks in 2027 and 2029, according to Tony Jones of The Athletic.
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Lakers would be a lot better and the Jazz a lot worse. Still have Clarkson stinking up the joint
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert, on being traded and seeing the Jazz torn down: “I wouldn’t say I was surprised.[/URL] … I knew Danny (Ainge) … was trying to do what he thought was good for the future of the franchise.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert said that he saw Mike Conley last night and that he considers him and Jordan Clarkson and Rudy Gay to be his friends. Tho…it’ll be weird to face a team that really isn’t his old team.[/URL] “It says Utah on the jersey, but Quin’s not there and it’s different.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
Jon Krawczynski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Malik Beasley on his emotions heading into tonight against the Wolves: “Kill. Anybody. In front of me.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski"]Twitter JonKrawczynski[/URL]
[url]https://kslsports.com/494415/jazz-timberwolves-rudy-gobert/[/url]
[QUOTE][I]SALT LAKE CITY –[/I] Rudy Gobert said he is rooting for the Utah Jazz to succeed even now as he plays for the rival Minnesota Timberwolves.
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the statue!!!:cheers:
Really liking the Vanderbilt and Kessler combo at the 5. Vanderbilt is getting in early foul trouble which he needs to clean up, but defensively they're both holding their own and grabbing the boards too.
Markkanen is interesting too. Obviously has a ton of talent and playing well early, so I wonder if he's one they'll look to flip for more picks given he's on a decent deal. Getting 03/04 vibes from this team, play their asses off and can sneak up on teams who may not expect it.
[QUOTE=El Kabong;14674429]Really liking the Vanderbilt and Kessler combo at the 5. Vanderbilt is getting in early foul trouble which he needs to clean up, but defensively they're both holding their own and grabbing the boards too.
Markkanen is interesting too. Obviously has a ton of talent and playing well early, so I wonder if he's one they'll look to flip for more picks given he's on a decent deal. Getting 03/04 vibes from this team, play their asses off and can sneak up on teams who may not expect it.[/QUOTE]
Lauri is as good as gone. They won't look so good once Conley is moved. Definitely like Hardy. Imagine if they'd had guys playing like this alongside Gobert
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50500372/clarkson-drops-29-points-as-jazz-stun-gobert-timberwolves-in-overtime[/url]
[QUOTE]"JC is finding ways to just stay the course," Jazz coach Will Hardy said. "He's in a different role this year than he has been the last couple of years, and that's an adjustment. That's no small thing what he's doing. He's playing with a lot of different players, and so he's finding his shots and his spots a little bit differently than he has in the past."
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looks the same to me other than he's starting and playing more. Hopefully someone likes the bum
[url]https://kslsports.com/494482/gobert-misses-free-throw-jazz-beat-timberwolves/[/url]
[QUOTE]Minnesota reportedly was wary of including forward Jaden McDaniels in the blockbuster trade for Gobert, but on Friday, it was Vanderbilt who looked like the better young piece.
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he's not better. McDaniels looks good. Serious hops
[url]https://kslsports.com/494468/utah-jazz-minnesota-timberwolves-lauri-markkanen-posterizes-rudy-gobert/[/url]
not exactly over him :facepalm
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/21/23407636/utah-jazz-beat-minnesota-timberwolves-suprising-underdogs[/url]
[QUOTE]Some of the stuff that the T-Wolves are going to have to work through is going to include learning not to over-help. This was an issue that Conley had a lot in his first year with the Jazz. Trusting that Gobert can clean up if someone gets by an outer defender is not an easy habit to make and can often lead to unnecessary fouls. And it’s made more difficult for a team like the Timberwolves because they aren’t getting a lot of defensive aggressiveness from their perimeter players. Sound familiar?
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Edwards is talking up a big game at the defensive end like Mitchell
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/10/21/23417477/the-utah-jazz-close-out-rudy-gobert-and-the-minnesota-timberwolves-to-clinch-1-record-in-the-league[/url]
[QUOTE]For the Jazz we’re starting to see some players shine. Speaking of Lauri Markkanen, he continues to impress. Tonight he was 10/23 from the field for 24 points. He hit just 2/10 from three so he might have had an even bigger night had his 3-ball been falling. He also grabbed 13 rebounds and dished out 5 assists. Markannen is starting to really flourish and it looks like his excellent play in Eurobasket is carrying over. Can he continue this level of play? If he can, the Jazz may be looking at a much different season than we expected.
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might have had a bigger game if he hadn't settled for 3's
[QUOTE]Jarred Vanderbilt is starting to make a case for the NBA All-DefensiveTeam. Vanderbilt was all over the place tonight on the defensive end. Whether it was clogging lanes and getting steals (4), or having a knack for being in the right place at the right time (13 rebounds), he looks like a modern version of Dennis Rodman with his intense energy and defense. Oh and this was all in 24 minutes. That is going to be one of the big things for Vanderbilt to improve on is his ability to stay out of foul trouble. He fouled out of the Jazz’s first game and ended this one with 5. The more he can stay on the floor, the more he will impact the game. That will be hard because Vanderbilt plays with incredible energy and intensity and is constantly flying around. Perhaps if he gains a bigger reputation, the officials won’t be so ticky-tack with their calls.
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unless he improves offensively you're not going to want him for big minutes. High energy role player
[QUOTE]Finally, the other difference maker for this team is Mike Conley. He led the team in plus-minus and it’s not surprising. He’s had a great start to the season and is managing the game at an elite level. Tonight he ended the game with 11 assists. His presence on the floor makes everyone better and as long as he’s on the Jazz, expect them to have an impressive offense. Right now, they’re ranked #3 in the NBA and you can attribute a lot of that to Mike Conley.
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without him they will not be good. No one else can run the O
Eric Walden: Rudy Gobert, on French national teammate and top prospect Victor Wembanyama: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“He’s unique, something the world has never seen. … He’s taller than me, longer than me.[/URL] He can space the floor, he can pass. But (he) also wants to play defense. … And he just loves to win.” pic.twitter.com/f7qJos9uZF
[HR][/HR] [INDENT] Rudy Gobert, on French national teammate and top prospect Victor Wembanyama: “He’s unique, something the world has never seen. … He’s taller than me, longer than me. He can space the floor, he can pass. But (he) also wants to play defense. … And he just loves to win.” [URL="https://t.co/f7qJos9uZF"]pic.twitter.com/f7qJos9uZF[/URL]
— Eric Walden (@tribjazz) [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/1583779291778932737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]October 22, 2022[/URL][/INDENT]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Clarkson clapped it up. He screamed “yeeeeahhhhhhh,” letting Gobert know in zero uncertain terms what was at stake with the two foul shots. The eye contact between the two was unmistakable. Gobert let loose a wry grin. He missed both. The Jazz went on to win 132-126 in a game they had no business winning on paper. And, just like that, [URL="https://theathletic.com/3718062/2022/10/22/jazz-timberwolves-rudy-gobert-jordan-clarkson/"]the Jazz are an unlikely 2-0 on the young season, with the wins coming against Minnesota and the Denver Nuggets. “Rudy will always be my brother,” Clarkson said. “But I needed him to miss those two free throws.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/3718062/2022/10/22/jazz-timberwolves-rudy-gobert-jordan-clarkson/"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Elijiah a big man. Didn't play much because of his size I guess?
Fletcher put up big numbers in Luxembourg. A wing
[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/donovan-mitchell-remembers-covid-19-shutdown-with-jazz-teammates-we-got-drunk-im-not-going-to-lie-223604875.html[/url]