Was this a "Ugly Win" for the Lakers or a "Good Lost" for the Spurs?

I think if you are the Spurs you are not feeing that bad about tonight's game. They showed that in Game 1 they are clearly the better team when they led all night long and just had too many turnovers that allowed the Lakers to get back in the game. The Lakers look like they need Kobe to SHINE in every game to have a chance in each game and I don't see the Spurs losing on Friday Night. Yes a loss when you had a 20 point lead on the road is a tough loss but isn't actually a good loss for San Antonio??

You can't tell me the Spurs don't look like the better team after watching tonight's game. And that's why Greg Popovich was probably laughing at the Press Conference and Phil Jackson was not. Think About it.

Lakers had no business winning this game, 20 point deficit...no momentum, no one outside of Rad and Kobe had a good game...Gasol did step up, Farmar was better then expected...I know SA's Manu and Parker didn't exactly lit up the court tonight...but neither did our boys.

I think in the first 30 minutes we thought we can make the same cute passes we did against Denver & Utah...we were puzzled with all those turn overs, SA was outplaying us badly...then Kobe took over, he is that good.

We really need to start appreciating this guy, I didn't even jump in joy when Kobe hit that game winning shot...I expected him, I knew he'd make it...that's how terrific of a player he really is. Despite what Loki has to say.

I just hope Odom & Fisher can have a better game, as long as Kobe stays aggressive for the duration of an entire game...I feel really good about LA taking this series in 5 games, like I predicted.

I hope this was a wake up call for us, we got lucky...but we also played out of our element. Thankfully SA chocked the game away, maybe it was the lack of rest.

LA up 1-0!! I'm happy... :pimp:

I think its too hard to tell what effect this will have... the Lakers definitely had an ugly game today and Spurs looked much more ready to play...BUT this is one of those demoralizing type games that might be hard to bounce back from. The first few minutes of game 2 will show exactly where both teams are at.

I want the Lakers to lose so badly. They don't deserve it. Get Pau Gasol from Grizzlies for nothing. Collusion!!!!

Kobe wants to leave but doesn't. Phil Jackson gets most talent AGAIN.

Anyway, Spurs are in trouble. Lakers just have too many weapons and of course, Kobe. It's over.

how was this an ugly win if the lake show came all the way back from 20-down? any mentally-healthy team would call it a rousing character win.

how was this a good loss if you blew a huge lead? a good loss is when you battled hard and almost won against difficult odds.

i'm sorry, but neither of your characterizations fit.

How about a good win for the Lakers? You don't come back from down 20 in the second half because you're lucky. Great win for LA but they didnt play up to their capabilities. I thought Elementally put it perfectly.."Great win, Good game"

[QUOTE=bagelred]I want the Lakers to lose so badly. They don't deserve it. Get Pau Gasol from Grizzlies for nothing. Collusion!!!!

Kobe wants to leave but doesn't. Phil Jackson gets most talent AGAIN.

Anyway, Spurs are in trouble. Lakers just have too many weapons and of course, Kobe. It's over.[/QUOTE]
ye that has nothing to do with the grizz looking for expiring contracts and trying to build around rudy gay.

or the lakers trying to bring a championship back to LA?

you friend, are an idiot!

[QUOTE=hotsizzle]How about a good win for the Lakers? You don't come back from down 20 in the second half because you're lucky. Great win for LA but they didnt play up to their capabilities. I thought Elementally put it perfectly.."Great win, Good game"[/QUOTE]


Small Picture=Lakers won game 1

Big Picture=Lakers had to come back from 20 pts down to win

Bigger Picture-Lakers first lead of the game in Game 1 at home wasn't until the 4th quarter.

[QUOTE=SportsAnalyzer]I think if you are the Spurs you are not feeing that bad about tonight's game. They showed that in Game 1 they are clearly the better team when they led all night long and just had too many turnovers that allowed the Lakers to get back in the game. The Lakers look like they need Kobe to SHINE in every game to have a chance in each game and I don't see the Spurs losing on Friday Night. Yes a loss when you had a 20 point lead on the road is a tough loss but isn't actually a good loss for San Antonio??

You can't tell me the Spurs don't look like the better team after watching tonight's game. And that's why Greg Popovich was probably laughing at the Press Conference and Phil Jackson was not. Think About it.[/QUOTE]

LMAO.....What game were YOU watching????
Kobe didn't even try to play in the first half, if he had the Lakers would have won by 20+ points.
Odom did absolutely nothing besides blocking Duncan once.
Fisher managed to dent the rim with a steady flow of bricks.
If you actually think the Lakers will play this poorly in the series you are delirious.
All the Spurs can hope and expect to improve upon is Ginobili hitting more shots.
If you blow a 20 point lead with the Lakers playing that bad you are dead meat.....better start booking that vacation now!!!

People need to stop whining about Gasol right now, it's a non-factor.
You don't see us whining about not having Ariza and Bynum this series, do you? I'd like to see SA without say Parker and K.Thomas for this series...that's equivalent to what we're missing right now.

[QUOTE=~LA's fine$t~]SA was outplaying us badly...then [Pop sat Bowen for no reason and] Kobe took over, he is that good.
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I hate when people do this but...

[B]Fixed.[/B]

[quote=bagelred]Get Pau Gasol from Grizzlies for nothing. Collusion!!!!
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Yeah, and there was no collusion between two former teammates in Ainge and McHale, right? Give me a break... :oldlol:




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[quote=SportsAnalyzer]Small Picture=Lakers won game 1

Big Picture=Lakers had to come back from 20 pts down to win

Bigger Picture-Lakers first lead of the game in Game 1 at home wasn't until the 4th quarter.[/quote]

Biggest Picture-Pjax 40-0 when his teams win the first game in a playoff series...



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This was a great win for the lakers. Kobe tried to involve the team more and took little to no shots and that showed why the spurs were so dominent in the first half(and the bench for lakers being very dominate compared to the starters). Once kobe got back from vacation and started doing what Kobe does the team got motivated and got back into the game as well as the fans. Gasol did his part in the game. Kobe did his part in the game. Fisher and Odom really lacked in this game.You can also say the same thing about Manu and Parker. Imagine if all these players were actually playing at there fullest capabilities? Great win for the lakers horrible loss for the spurs. they acted as if there was no way lakers could come back and just played the way they wanted to play when obviously the lakers told them they wanted to play there way and it worked.

[QUOTE=SoCalMike]Yeah, and there was no collusion between two former teammates in Ainge and McHale, right? Give me a break... :oldlol:




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I believe that was collusion too.


So let's see, the Grizzlies get rid of Gasol to free up cap space to sign......um.......somebody NOT AS GOOD AS GASOL. They give up a legitimate young franchise player for NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!! ZERO!!!!!!!!!! for worthless cap space. To build around Rudy Gay who will never be as good as Pau Gasol.

And gee, what a coincidence that Jerry West worked for Grizzlies and he's Mr. Laker. Nothing to see here folks......

[QUOTE=LBJoftheYMCA]Is Kobe bryant the reason San Antonio scored 13 points in the 4th quarter?

Case closed. Stop making excuses your embarrassing yourself.[/QUOTE]

My correction wasn't about why the Spurs sucked on offense in the 4th. Maybe if you had the reading comprehension of a turtle you'd know that. My comment was strictly related to Kobe and his going off after being quiet for most of the game.

Hey, was Kobe the reason the Spurs scored about the same in the 3rd and 4th qts. of games 1, 2 and 3 against New Orleans?

This is almost a reversal of the Suns/Spurs game 1:

Team blows big lead late in game

Will the Spurs be able to bounce back like Phoenix couldn't?

[QUOTE=SoCalMike]Biggest Picture-Pjax 40-0 when his teams win the first game in a playoff series...



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THE HUMONGOUS PICTURE: The Spurs showed they are capable of stealing a game in LA whether it's game 2, 5, or 7

[QUOTE=SportsAnalyzer]THE HUMONGOUS PICTURE: The Spurs showed they are capable of stealing a game in LA whether it's game 2, 5, or 7[/QUOTE]

They showed they can win a game in LA when Kobe doesnt play. Lakers showed that Kobe can easily take over the spurs at any part of the game. Wiether he can do that in SA is up in the air.

[QUOTE=LBJoftheYMCA]Why would you even be worried about why Kobe scored so much in a thread about characterizing the end result of this game.

So what are your crybaby posts insinuating at the end of the day?

Bowen goes to bench-->Kobe goes off --> lakers take lead--> lakers win game.

You act as if the Lakers win was solely due to Kobe going off. That's the point Im making.[/quote]

He scored 14 of the 24 4th qt points the Lakers scored and probably assisted on 2 or 3 baskets.

His going off WAS the sole reason the Lakers won.

[quote]Also, Kobe going off is not because Bowen went to the bench. KObe took 3 shots in the first half because he was reading the game. Second half he switched gears, and even when Bowen was on him he scored. i.e. basket to take 2 point lead with 20+ seconds left.

Idiot.[/QUOTE]

What? Kobe played like crap until Pop sat Bowen mid 3rd. Then he began to score on Udoka and then Manu.

FYI... the Lakers didn't take the lead until late in the fourth (when it was 81-81) and it was on a pair of free throws.

[QUOTE=Brickz187]They showed they can win a game in LA when Kobe doesnt play. Lakers showed that Kobe can easily take over the spurs at any part of the game. Wiether he can do that in SA is up in the air.[/QUOTE]

Kobe can take over. But his taking over has what to do with the Spurs atrocious shooting and lack of scoring?

Everyone who thinks that this game is proof that SA will take the series seems to forget that the exact same thing happened to Phx in game 1 of the first round.

[QUOTE=Wonder Bread Kid]Kobe can take over. But his taking over has what to do with the Spurs atrocious shooting and lack of scoring?[/QUOTE]

Thats all the spurs fault. There lack of scoring better only be 2days game because anymore games like that then its a wrap. Spurs are a very good team and i know what there capable of. But they seemed way to confident on the fact they had a 20 point lead. Championship teams cannot play that way. Also Lakers dont even have a great defense. So spurs should of been ****ting on them all day. If they make if past LA and the celtics advance there going to have a tough game. Boston plays very good defense and has a very good offense. Spurs cant choke during games no matter how far in the lead they are. Lakers showed they can easily come back from that if you give them the oppertunity.

[QUOTE=blasian]Everyone who thinks that this game is proof that SA will take the series seems to forget that the exact same thing happened to Phx in game 1 of the first round.[/QUOTE]

The same thing happened in round two against the Hornets. More times.

[QUOTE=Wonder Bread Kid]The same thing happened in round two against the Hornets. More times.[/QUOTE]

Spurs didn't blow a 20 point lead in those losses

[QUOTE=SportsAnalyzer]THE HUMONGOUS PICTURE: [B]The Spurs showed they are capable of stealing a game in LA [/B]whether it's game 2, 5, or 7[/QUOTE]you're right the 14 point 4th quarter has me convinced...

seriously the spurs are a great team, they can steal one with ease... but so can the lakers...

[QUOTE=gts]
seriously the spurs are a great team, they can steal one with ease... but so can the lakers...[/QUOTE]

They have yet to prove it.

[QUOTE=SportsAnalyzer]THE HUMONGOUS PICTURE: The Spurs showed they are capable of stealing a game in LA whether it's game 2, 5, or 7[/QUOTE]

I, too, think the Spurs are capable of winning a game on the road but I doubt it's a game 7 again. The most likely at this point would be game 5 (with being down 3-1, making it 3-3 on their court only to lose in 7). That's my prediction as of now.

[QUOTE=Wonder Bread Kid]They have yet to prove it.[/QUOTE]

Both of them.

[QUOTE=Wonder Bread Kid]They have yet to prove it.[/QUOTE]i think they both have, spurs winninggame 7 in new orleans, lakers winning game 6 in utah against a team that only lost there 4 times all year... lakers have won 3 road games this postseason spurs have won two

:oldlol: Good lost for the spurs my ass. These are the friggin defending champions. When was the last time a team has came back to beat them when they had a 20 point lead and were dominating most of the game? The Spurs were trying to get this game trying to send a message early, Kobe and the Lakers were having none of that.

The Lakers scratched and clawed their way back into this game and won it. For a young team like the Lakers, that can only be a confidence booster. Seemed like the Lakers were looking like the champs and the spurs were looking like the young upcoming team in that second half. There is absolutely ZERO reason this game being a good loss for the Spurs. They were pretty much dominating the Lakers throughout the game............and they still lost.

:oldlol: Duncan played flawless, easily his second best game of the playoffs after game 1 vs the suns, Bowen and udoka were hitting shots in the first half, Parker was doing what he do. So you cant say that the Spurs were playing terrible while the Lakers played their ass off, the Lakers only scored 89 fuggin points for crying out loud. :oldlol: 23 points [b]BELOW[/b] their playoff average.

This was a game the spurs had to have. Them blowing out the Lakers would of been a statement game and had the Lakers with their tail tucked between their legs, Now, the Lakers confidence has rose even further. To come back down from 20 to beat the defending champs? Thats practically unheard of.

Ugly loss for the Spurs.

This game may cost them the series... similar to the Suns vs. Spurs round 1, game 1.

[QUOTE=HANNIBAL SMITH]
:oldlol: Duncan played flawless, easily his second best game of the playoffs after game 1 vs the suns, Bowen and udoka were hitting shots in the first half, Parker was doing what he do. So you cant say that the Spurs were playing terrible [/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, aside from tim, when did all that happen in the second half?

Its just one win for the Lakers. We won a game at home. I wouldn't read too much into it beyond that. If it were game 5, it'd be a different story, but its game 1. SA is a battle tested team, I doubt this affects them very much. Lakers' starters played a very anemic first half. We'll need the guys to step up next game, especially on the road. LO & Fish will need to show up as well for us to have a chance.

I agree with the OP

Lakers still dont know their identity i dont think. yeah it was easy for everyone to get theirs and look good against the Nuggets. Then it got a little tougher against Utah for them trying to figure out if kobe is gonna shoot or if his teammates are. And now they're playing the toughest team of all and they looked baffled for most of the game.

the reason they won is because they forced turnovers on defense but IMO its more likely that san antonio will cut down on the turnovers than it is that the lakers will get their offense together.

SA will win