1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...

1 title in 70 years for Cleveland

[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14310994]Lebron got 1 title in 11 years for a franchise that drafted him/originally played for. Which is terrible for some all time great that stayed with a franchise that long.

Kawhi, Steph, Kobe, Duncan, Pierce, Dirk, all did better than that.[/QUOTE]

Kawhi and Kobe didn't win a single championship for the franchise they were drafted to. Dirk and Pierce did worse than 1/11.

Even your arbitrary criterias leave Lebron in some exclusive company.

Couldn't even make the playoffs with prime Westbrook.

[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14729775]Couldn't even make the playoffs with prime Westbrook.[/QUOTE]

Why would he need a trade for this to happen while Kawhi thrived with Westbrook?

[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14310994]Lebron got 1 title in 11 years for a franchise that drafted him/originally played for. Which is terrible for some all time great that stayed with a franchise that long.

Kawhi, Steph, Kobe, Duncan, Pierce, Dirk, all did better than that.[/QUOTE]
They fell into competent franchises. Dan Gilbert had no idea how to build a team around his young superstar and that's why he left.

Dirk only has one as well.
Kawhi got carried to his first ring and he played like Iguodala and on the Spurs 2014 title, he won a FMVP.
Pierce got lucky they brought him KG and Ray.

[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14729775]Couldn't even make the playoffs with prime Westbrook.[/QUOTE]

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Russ might not even be in the league next year because nobody will want him.

[QUOTE=k0kakw0rld;14766363]They fell into competent franchises. Dan Gilbert had no idea how to build a team around his young superstar and that's why he left.

Dirk only has one as well.
Kawhi got carried to his first ring and he played like Iguodala and on the Spurs 2014 title, he won a FMVP.
Pierce got lucky they brought him KG and Ray.[/QUOTE]

They had Shaq, Ben Wallace

How many franchises had a 3x Finals MVP winner or 4x DPOY winner that won a title?

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Russ might not even be in the league next year because nobody will want him.[/QUOTE]

Plenty of teams want him. How many guys won league mvp and has the most triple doubles all time?

How many players won a ring as the man by age 25? Certainly not Jordan.

From that point on, lebron made 9 finals and won 4 chips in 10 years.

This thread is just silly.

[QUOTE=AussieSteve;14766388]How many players won a ring as the man by age 25? Certainly not Jordan.

From that point on, lebron made 9 finals and won 4 chips in 10 years.

This thread is just silly.[/QUOTE]

Not good with the stacked teams he has had and the players he has had. Steph has as many titles in less years.

SGA just showed Lebron how it is done.

[QUOTE=HBK_Kliq_2;14311075]That's because Kawhi was locking down Lebron and got him out of his comfort zone to set up anybody on his team. No excuses, Wade\Bosh were just as washed up as Duncan\Manu.

Kawhi averaged 24PPG on 69% FG in the 3 straight wins over heat. He also led the team in VORP\WAR through out the entire playoffs. Nobody on the spurs was a superstar at that point, Duncan\Manu were on their last legs. Oh and during the 3 straight wins, Duncan averaged 12PPG.[/QUOTE]

Don't know why some put other players down (especially a 38 year old) for a (short) 3 game stretch. I could say that during the first 2 Finals games (when the games were competitive and not blow-outs), Kawhi averaged 9 points.

2014 [B]Playoffs[/B]
Duncan 16.3 pts 9.2 rebs 52.3%FG
Kawhi 14.3 pts 6.7 rebs 51.0%FG

[QUOTE=AussieSteve;14766388]How many players won a ring as the man by [B]age 25[/B]? Certainly not Jordan.

From that point on, lebron made 9 finals and won 4 chips in 10 years.

This thread is just silly.[/QUOTE]

Am I reading wrong but wasn't Lebron 27 when he first won? I wouldn't be using young age as a plus for Lebron - Magic won his first as a 21 year old.

[QUOTE=AussieSteve;14766388]How many players won a ring as the man by age 25? Certainly not Jordan.

From that point on, lebron made 9 finals and won 4 chips in 10 years.

This thread is just silly.[/QUOTE]

How many for the franchise that he originally played for?

[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;15041176]How many for the franchise that he originally played for?[/QUOTE]
What happened to your jordansbulls account in realgm?

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Well, folks, the verdict is in:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?520515-Biggest-Loser-On-ISH-Poll-Final-Bracket[/url]

The people have spoken, and the truth hurts. :confusedshrug:


:lol

[QUOTE=Axe;15041177]What happened to your jordansbulls account in realgm?

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Who is that?