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[QUOTE=PowerGlove]I'm a big Kidd supporter, but I dont think he's a top 10 PG. Especially if we are supposed to be looking towards the future, as the OP wished for.[/QUOTE]
LOL @ people having him at anything other than 10. Come on. If you put him on the list, he cant be that high up. He plays his role well, but that's about it.
[QUOTE=Batz][B]1.[/B] Deron Williams - Definately the best all around point guard in the league. He can destroy defenses in so many ways and then hold his own on the other end. Definately for me the complete package as far as a franchise-run point guard.
[B]2.[/B] Chris Paul - Don't get me wrong, Paul here is one of my most favorite players, he's the complete package aswell, but with crappy bubble wrap. We saw how late in the Lakers series, he became almost completely ineffective when the LA took away the Hornet's PNR team. He faded and didn't even bother to adjust. A healthy Paul probably would've done better yes, but till I see otherwise, right now he's just not the best point guard in the NBA.
[B]3.[/B] Derrick Rose - I placed the MVP, and my top 3 favorite player at 3 simply because I don't believe he's a better point guard when comparing to Deron and Paul. Though I do think he is more dominant, however his defensive short comings, low efficiency, lack of a consistent shooting touch, aswell as an inferior passing skill set when comparing to the two guys above, are the reasons why I put Rose at 3rd place.
[B]4.[/B] Steve Nash - I hate putting this guy so low, but his defense is completely atrocious. And I'm Canadian, aswell as a huge Nash fan. An elite shooter, arguably the best, great passer with unique and out of this world court vision and the unmatched durability - puts the [I]old man[/I] at 4th place.
[B]5.[/B] Russel Westbrook - He definitely, definitely, the best all around player on the list given, definitely the best defender.. He can do just about everything, maybe except shooting threes, but there's also another flaw, his point guard skills. He can pass, but not that well. We saw him exposed in the playoffs continuously, whether it be screwing up the pass or play, or simply not passing/running the play at all. He tries to run the show too much, not that great of a shot selection, and his court vision is noticeably blurred. He's a point guard, but at random times, he's not.
[B]6.[/B] Rajan Rondo - Never liked the guy but he's good. Really good defender, unmatched hustle, and play making abilities to the likes of Steve Nash, and doesn't need an offensive system to flourish in, despite what some people try to negatively shove down your throat. Though he does not have a jump shot, nor does he have the free throw touch. Which is a must in a point guard, especially when a jump shot is what holding Rondo from being a poor mans Steve Nash to possibly the best and most unique guard in the league today.
[B]7.[/B] Tony Parker - A scoring point guard who still has the traditional point guard skill set in him. I always believed he could've been more than 20/7 type player, even before his 55 point eruption. I don't know why he didn't live up to such potential maybe a more consistent jumper? No one held him back, atleast that's what it seemed. Though a really talented scorer, especially in the paint, 7th place is fitting for a former finals MVP.
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8.[/B] Jason Kidd - The old man is very underrated. As if he has camouflaged with the hardwood. Still is the same player, just at a much slower pace, minus the scoring - for the greater good. One thing that still stands out about him other than his elite passing ability and sudden shooting touch is his defense. It startles me when I don't see people pointing out that somehow this grandpa is holding his ground against players like Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade. Especially in Finals, I saw him on several possessions make Wade struggle. This guy is still a top 10 point guard for me. And should be for everyone.
[B]9.[/B] Chauncey Billups - A healthy Billups can turn a team around, we've all seen it happen, and I do believe it would be the same for knicks. If he didn't make a pullup transition three his #1 move in the arsenal, he could've been higher. But his defense, leadership and clutchness keeps him in my top
[B]10. [/B]John Wall - A bright, bright future. Honestly, the guy is experience and a jump shot away from being in the status of the likes of Rose. It's almost undeniable. Though I hate putting him here just out of potential, as you could've put someone like Curry here aswell. I just believe that Wall will infact have a better and more successful career.
[B][I]Dead Last. [/I][/B]Jose Calderon - Seriously sickens me how much this guy sucks.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGmOlANxMig[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jn87CTrJUU&NR=1[/url]
How the f*ck does that happen? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
I like this list. Maybe besides Wall, Stephen Curry?
1.) Deron Williams- Best Point guard in the league hands down. Can do so much to kill you.
2.) (Healthy) Chris Paul- Just as good a player as Deron Williams, but I like Derons style more, and I think he is a bigger threat to score.
3.) Derrick Rose - If Chris Paul isn't healthy, he jumps to 2, if D-Will isn't healthy, he jumps to 1. MVP? Yes, but very very overrated at that. Average playmaker for a point guard, and his scoring is on low efficiency. We all saw how bad LeBron and Wade killed him in the ECF. Still a 24\7\5 threat.
4.) Russell Westbrook- Basically a slightly worse version of Rose.
5.) Steve Nash- As a passer, he ranks 1 here, but he isn't as good a scorer, and a horrible defender. So 5 is good.
6.) Rajon Rondo
7.) John Wall
8.) Chauncey Billups
9.) Tony Parker
10.) Jason Kidd
[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]1.) Deron Williams- Best Point guard in the league hands down. Can do so much to kill you.
2.) (Healthy) Chris Paul- Just as good a player as Deron Williams, but I like Derons style more, and I think he is a bigger threat to score.
3.) Derrick Rose - If Chris Paul isn't healthy, he jumps to 2, if D-Will isn't healthy, he jumps to 1. MVP? Yes, but very very overrated at that. Average playmaker for a point guard, and his scoring is on low efficiency. We all saw how bad LeBron and Wade killed him in the ECF. Still a 24\7\5 threat.
4.) Russell Westbrook- Basically a slightly worse version of Rose.
5.) Steve Nash- As a passer, he ranks 1 here, but he isn't as good a scorer, and a horrible defender. So 5 is good.
6.) Rajon Rondo
7.) John Wall
8.) Chauncey Billups
9.) Tony Parker
10.) Jason Kidd[/QUOTE]
So where is Rose if he isn't healthy? :facepalm
1. CP3 - motivated cp3 is the best PG in the game. please come to the knicks.
2. DWill - can do it all, but hes in siberia, aka the Nets so no one will ever hear from him again
3. Rose - keeps getting better and needs to keep getting better because he cant have lebron expose him again. if he develops that pull-up jumper he will beast, because thats basically how terry killed lebron.
4. Westbrook - also needs to keep getting better, by far my favorite PG in the nba. he needs to be a mix of that game 7 against the grizz pg and that slashing pg he was when he was effective against the mavs. plus hes the best defensive PG in the game.
5. Nash - still runs an effective offense even though he has very average players around him
6. Rondo - he went backwards this year. of course before he did, he tore up my knicks and toney douglas in the 1st round :mad:
7. TP - still got game, still a speedy mofo that can finish them floaters/teardrops
8. Kidd - has a lot of heart and it showed in the playoffs. played great D on basically everyone. hes been exposed in the past as unable to keep up with the speedy PGs but this year, great team defense will make a good defensive player look even better
9. Curry - great shooter, dont know if he can defend anyone. his passing is improving too, wish the knicks had him but stupid warriors picked him before the knicks pick.
10. Wall - stud, will be best PG in a couple of years once the wiz actually get other ppl on the team (not shot jackers like nick young)
Lawson, Felton, Billups and company... sorry missed the cut.
Lawson looks good, should only get better but is undersized galore
Felton was good for the knicks but only went backwards on the Nuggets (Dantoni system?)
Billups, its only a matter of time till he gets hurt for the Knicks... ugh :mad:
1. D-Rose: MVP, and still improving, not much more to say.
2. Deron williams: Would be a 2 way tie between him and CP3 but Cp's health is still a question
3. CP3: If healthy he's the best pure PG in the league, runs the offense better than anybody in the game
4. Rondo
5. Westbrook
6. Nash
7. Wall
8. TP
9. Curry
10. Ty Lawson
I wonder how many people actually watched the Wizards and John Wall this past year. Some of this shit is ridiculous. 19 and 9 next year? He averaged 9 this year. Next scoring PG? What? Poor man's Day Wade? Wtf? Derrick Rose - a jump shot? Hiuh.
Seriously, what a joke. The definition of talking out of one's ass.
[QUOTE=allabouthawks]u just put rubio who hasent played a game above an mvp in nash :facepalm :no:[/QUOTE]
Don't blame me for that. I'm a Wolves fan, and I need to get some Timberwolf on there, otherwise I wouldn't like my list that much.
[QUOTE=imdaman99]6. Rondo - he went backwards this year. of course before he did, he tore up my knicks and toney douglas in the 1st round :mad:[/QUOTE]
Rondo went backwards after he beat the Knicks? So he went backward in the Miami series, half of which he played with a dislocated elbow and included leading his team to a win against the EC champs on one arm.
[QUOTE=BlackWhiteGreen]Rondo went backwards after he beat the Knicks? So he went backward in the Miami series, half of which he played with a dislocated elbow and included leading his team to a win against the EC champs on one arm.[/QUOTE]
TBH, Rondo did go backwards because of injuries and his steep drop in the 2nd half of the season.
Deron is ranked above Paul because of Paul's injury problems, yet Deron was the one that had injury problems last year. If you look at Deron's numbers in New Jersey, they were awful, and a lot of people say it was because he wasn't healthy. Deron also missed 17 games last season while Paul played 80 games last season. Paul didn't really dominate or look like himself until the playoffs though.
Anyways...my top 10
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Steve Nash
4. Derrick Rose
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Rajon Rondo
7. Tony Parker
8. Chauncey Billups
9. Jason Kidd
10. John Wall
Honorable Mentions: Andre Miller, Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, and Stephen Curry.
1. Chris Paul
2. Steve Nash
3. Jason Kidd
4. Deron Williams
5. Rajon Rondo
6. Derrick Rose
7. Chauncey Billups
8. Tony Parker
9. John Wall
10. Russell Westbrook
Very tough.
1. CP3
2. D-Will
3. D-Rose
4. Nash
5. Westbrook
6. Rondo
7. Curry
8. Parker
9. Wall
10. Billups
Wall will be first very soon
1. CP3
2. DWill
3. Nash
4. Rose
5. Rondo
6. Westbrook (plays more like a SG than a PG)
7. Curry
8. Kidd
9. Wall
10. Parker