Re: Rank the top 10 point guards in the NBA
[QUOTE=Nastradamus]Lol, how does a PG get blown by and dunked on by Amare freakin' SToudemire? Uhhhhhhhh.
I'm not defending his D, but pick a good example,where he is at least defending a PG and not the most explosive big in the league.[/QUOTE]
Look at his defense? He's in perfect position, and with no pressure at all he voluntarily walks out of it which allows the opposition to score. That could've been a Earl Boykins and a field goal would've still been made because of that horrible decision.
[QUOTE=I.R.Beast]thats why he's not the best.....he's a product of the PnR...once you defend it properly you make paul almost useless. Overrated, plus he had a sub par season. a few games against old arse derrick fisher and a laker tema that struggles with every fast PG in the league dont change that[/QUOTE]
Sub par season because of injuries. He actually played godly against the Lakers early on. PGs do abuse the lakers, but that's usually on in the regular season. In the playoffs they actually pick it up in that area.
[QUOTE=Nets fan 93]I like this list. Maybe besides Wall, Stephen Curry?[/QUOTE]
As I said in the Wall ranking, Curry could've been there, I just feel Wall is a better point guard and has potential to be better. Though you can easily swap them.
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
1) Paul
2) Williams
3) Rose
4) Rondo
5) Westbrook
6) Nash
7) Curry
8) Wall
9) Parker
10) Billups
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
I don't recall Deron Williams putting up godly number against the Lakers in last year's playoffs. I thought all point guards smoked them?
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
1. Rose
2. Paul
3. Rondo
4. Curry
5. Westbrook
6. Williams
7. Nash
8. Kidd
9. Billups
10 Parker
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
1. Chris Paul
2. Derrick Rose
3. Steve Nash
4. Deron Williams
5. Russel Westbrook
6. John Wall
7. Stephen Curry
8. Rajon Rondo
9. Tony Parker
10. Ty Lawson
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=knickswin]I don't recall Deron Williams putting up godly number against the Lakers in last year's playoffs. I thought all point guards smoked them?[/QUOTE]
He suffered injuries prior to the series, and even during it. Besides, the Lakers D was really kicking in, all the way to a sweep.
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
1. Paul
2. Rose
3. D.Williams
4. Nash
5. Rondo
6. Westbrook
7. Parker
8. Kidd
I guess Wall or Curry but I don't really see them as being experienced and thus as good at being a PG and running a team, so I'm gonna say
9. Miller
10. T.Evans
(assuming he comes back healthy and ready, which I don't see why he can't.)
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
1. Chris Paul
2. Derrick Rose
3. Steve Nash
4. Russell Westbrook
5. Deron Williams
6. Rajon Rondo
7. Tony Parker
8. Chauncey Billups
9. Jason Kidd
10. John Wall
Deron Williams was very unproductive and injury prone last season.
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=TrueAristotle]1. Chris Paul
2. Derrick Rose
3. Steve Nash
4. Russell Westbrook
5. Deron Williams
6. Rajon Rondo
7. Tony Parker
8. Chauncey Billups
9. Jason Kidd
10. John Wall
Deron Williams was very unproductive and injury prone last season.[/QUOTE]
Yes, being the only NBA player to average 20 points and 10 assists (career highs in both) is very unproductive.
Re: Rank the top 10 point guards in the NBA
[QUOTE=kentatm]wow. I don't see how Kidd is out of the top 10 behind guy like Andre Miller and Jrue Holiday.
Yea he is old as hell but he is an excellent floor general who is deadly from 3 and can defend SGs and SFs that most PGs could never dream of checking.
its not always all about the stats people[/QUOTE]
This is a good point. If you look at Kidd's assists, they're usually to cutters under the basket who take the best shots in the league, while guys like Rose and Westbrook tend to drive and kick out to guys who are open for jumpers for their assists. Not to take anything away from the younger guys, but doing that requires athleticism since it's reliant on breaking down a defense, not basketball iq or court vision, and the shots are less efficient.
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=ChuckOakley]Yes, being the only NBA player to average 20 points and 10 assists (career highs in both) is very unproductive.[/QUOTE]
You are counting his stats with Utah, count it with just NJ and it is pathetic. 35% FG%, LMAO. Deron is a douche anyways, gets Sloan fired and then leaves the franchise and gets traded to the loser New Jersey Nets. :oldlol:
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
1. D-will
2. Chris paul
3. D-rose
4. Nash
5. Rondo
6. Westbrook
7. John wall
8. Jrue Holdiay
9. T.Parker
10. Steph Curry
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=TrueAristotle]You are counting his stats with Utah, count it with just NJ and it is pathetic. 35% FG%, LMAO. Deron is a douche anyways, gets Sloan fired and then leaves the franchise and gets traded to the loser New Jersey Nets. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
15/13 on NJ and yeah.. 35% shooting because he had torn ligaments in his wrist that required surgery and the medical staff in Utah didn't diagnose properly. 13 assists in NJ was incredible given the lack of talent around him.
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
I definitely think that John Wall needs to be higher on everyone's lists. If you look at CP3's stats rookie year versus Wall's rookie year, they are pretty much similar. Wall is a mix of DRose and CP3 in a couple of years.
The top 4 point guards are:
Rose, CP3, DWill, and Wall
Re: Ranking the best NBA point guards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=Borderlands] If you look at CP3's stats rookie year versus Wall's rookie year, they are pretty much similarl[/QUOTE]
The stats are similar in terms of pts/assists. There is a huge difference in all their advanced stats which reflects the massive differences in turnovers, pace, and TS%. And CP's team went from 18 to 38 wins