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wang4three 02-05-2012 06:14 PM

At what point this season will a fire be lit under Deron's ass?
 
Last night I was distracted cause I like to root for guys like Jeremy who get a chance to shine in the league.. but now back to my own team.

Deron... when will that competitive fire come out? When will he just feel like his back is against the wall and he's gonna fight his way out. I mean.. this season it looks like he's doing the bare minimum to be considered an All-star, let alone at one point be considered the best PG in the league. Yeah his teammates aren't the best but you still gotta go out there and give it your best. Be the leader, and inspire.

I just want to know when will that happen. Is he basically saving himself to see if we have Dwight and then go hard?

It's frustrating. As many of you know, I'm a big Illini fan so I've been sympathetic/apologetic to Deron's output, but when we're letting guys like Jeremy Lin look like prime Steve Nash on us.. we've got a problem. Sure he was getting burned in pick and rolls cause our defense on that was terrible..but come on Deron! Fight your way out!

Nets fan 93 02-05-2012 09:56 PM

Re: At what point this season will a fire be lit under Deron's ass?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wang4three
Last night I was distracted cause I like to root for guys like Jeremy who get a chance to shine in the league.. but now back to my own team.

Deron... when will that competitive fire come out? When will he just feel like his back is against the wall and he's gonna fight his way out. I mean.. this season it looks like he's doing the bare minimum to be considered an All-star, let alone at one point be considered the best PG in the league. Yeah his teammates aren't the best but you still gotta go out there and give it your best. Be the leader, and inspire.

I just want to know when will that happen. Is he basically saving himself to see if we have Dwight and then go hard?

It's frustrating. As many of you know, I'm a big Illini fan so I've been sympathetic/apologetic to Deron's output, but when we're letting guys like Jeremy Lin look like prime Steve Nash on us.. we've got a problem. Sure he was getting burned in pick and rolls cause our defense on that was terrible..but come on Deron! Fight your way out!

What you bolded is hopefully what is holding him back. I hope this is not the Deron that we will continue to see. Deron is the key to winning every single night. When Deron plays well so does the rest of the team. Whe he does not it really hurts the team. Like big time. I don't like his attitude so far. Hopefully even Brook coming backs gives Deron the rush this team needs to succeed.

MTing 02-05-2012 11:35 PM

Re: At what point this season will a fire be lit under Deron's ass?
 
Offense wise, Derons just not used to being a 25 point scorer in my opinion. Hes had stretches when hes scored 25+ a game but I dont think he can consistenly do it every night.

His defense though I agree, it should be better. Hes one of the stronger PGs in the league (shows that with his post up skills) so he should be able to hold other star PG's in check. But he isnt, Jeremy Lin just handed him his ass last night. You cant rely on your bigs to block everything.

gigantes 02-06-2012 06:18 AM

Re: At what point this season will a fire be lit under Deron's ass?
 
big, strong PG's generally struggle to guard speedy PG's. even during kidd's prime, he often needed kittles with his long arms to guard the other point.

one thing about deron, he had a pretty badass defensive team behind him in jerry sloan's jazz. i mean, more than just bigs to back him up. i had to stop watching the jazz at a certain point because their borderline dirty tactics got me pretty upset. but no question, they were effective tactics.

d-will needs a team that complements him, and i don't think he has that right now...

gigantes 02-16-2012 07:26 AM

Re: At what point this season will a fire be lit under Deron's ass?
 
i read an interesting comment earlier on ND but can't find it now. but to paraphrase:
Quote:

going back to that first nets versus knicks meeting where jeremy lin first caught on fire, if d-will had actually played good defense on the guy, lin probably would have been subbed out for toney douglas or someone, then quite likely released later on since the knicks needed the roster spot and didn't think that highly of him at the time.

so linsanity might never have happened, and the knicks would have most likely continued their extremely embarrassing season.
and as much as i'm on the lin bandwagon, that's not a total reach IMO.


meanwhile, on lin's hitlist:

Nets fan 93 02-16-2012 03:18 PM

Re: At what point this season will a fire be lit under Deron's ass?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gigantes
i read an interesting comment earlier on ND but can't find it now. but to paraphrase:

and as much as i'm on the lin bandwagon, that's not a total reach IMO.


meanwhile, on lin's hitlist:

It's possible. But like Deron said.. That's NY. I'm more interested in NJ. Let's go Nets.

gigantes 02-16-2012 03:39 PM

Re: At what point this season will a fire be lit under Deron's ass?
 
well the point i was trying to make, reading between the lines, is that it would be nice if d-will got after it a little more on defense.

was basically trying to add a little evidence to the OP...

Rameek 02-23-2012 11:30 AM

Re: At what point this season will a fire be lit under Deron's ass?
 
Well I will say this. I feel so sorry for this guy considering all the injuries it must be tough mentally and physically. Its hard to stay motivated with little to no talent around him.

I mean this with all sincerity I hope the Nets do find a way to get him some talent to play with so he can stay.:rockon:

on a side note at least I dont have to go to NJ to watch the Lakers Bulls and other top teams to play:cheers:


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