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~primetime~ 02-14-2017 03:35 PM

2017 Off Season Thread
 
Giants release Victor Cruz

Aldon Smith has been reinstated for the Raiders

Packer released CB Sam Shields

Carbine 02-14-2017 04:01 PM

Re: 2017 Off Season Thread
 
-prime time got his first nut

-colts released ILB Jackson.

Bless Mathews 02-14-2017 04:35 PM

Re: 2017 Off Season Thread
 
We don't loose draft pick

Warning

:applause:

~primetime~ 02-14-2017 06:07 PM

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imdaman99 02-14-2017 06:20 PM

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I'll miss you Cruz :( Was a great Giant but he is as good as done. He can't get any separation. I don't know if that's more on him or the OLine not getting Eli the time, but he's a Giants legend regardless.

His 99 yard catch and splitting 2 Jetsies turned the season around and of course the Giants went on to win it all :pimp:


~primetime~ 02-14-2017 06:24 PM

Re: 2017 Off Season Thread
 
From what I read, Cruz is still great as a slot guy, but the Giants have Sheppard now who is much cheaper, and probably better. Cruz was tried as an outside guy and didn't do so well. No need for the Giants to keep his contract.

I'm thinking NE might snag him, as all they do is short slant passes.

Carbine 02-14-2017 06:43 PM

Re: 2017 Off Season Thread
 
A scout said Cruz is done. I concur with him.

knickballer 02-14-2017 09:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~primetime~
From what I read, Cruz is still great as a slot guy, but the Giants have Sheppard now who is much cheaper, and probably better. Cruz was tried as an outside guy and didn't do so well. No need for the Giants to keep his contract.

I'm thinking NE might snag him, as all they do is short slant passes.


New England already have two players who play the slot in Edelmen and Amendola. Edelman is probably the best slot WR in the league right now. It will be uncanny for New England to spend big on a WR as well. Not a fit at all.

I'm interested to see what happens to Adrian Peterson as he may get cut. He seems like the ideal fit in New England..

PS, New England does alot of vertical passing plays.

Carbine 02-14-2017 10:01 PM

Re: 2017 Off Season Thread
 
AP in NE would be amazing. Let him take all of Blounts touches.

~primetime~ 02-14-2017 10:35 PM

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https://www.profootballfocus.com/qbs...ort-passing-2/

That's two years old, couldn't find an updated one, but 58% of Brady's passes were less than 10 yards, ranked #1 in the NFL. I guarantee not much has changed.

The entire reason Edelman is seen as one of the best slot guys is because he's in NE, that's all they do. He's the #1 WR on the team.


Not that it means they are needing Cruz, it just seems like the type of player NE would look at to me.

knickballer 02-14-2017 10:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~primetime~
https://www.profootballfocus.com/qbs...ort-passing-2/

That's two years old, couldn't find an updated one, but 58% of Brady's passes were less than 10 yards, ranked #1 in the NFL. I guarantee not much has changed.

The entire reason Edelman is seen as one of the best slot guys is because he's in NE, that's all they do. He's the #1 WR on the team.


Not that it means they are needing Cruz, it just seems like the type of player NE would look at to me.


I'm not gonna get into no advanced metrics but Brady this past season ranked 2nd in the league in yards per pass attempt. Sure that can mean his receivers get alot YAC from short pass attempts like you mention but it also means that New England do throw it deep. Especially when you have a gifted TE like Gronk who Brady constantly looks for deep and is one of best deep threats in the league. Then there's Hogan who is becoming another deep threat option for Brady as he has the size and physicality that Edelman and Amendola lack. Patriots do throw it deep and they're very good at it, make no mistake about that.

As for Edelman it's time to give the guy some props. When healthy he's consistency putting up very good numbers and rarely has bad games. There's some questions about his catching ability (makes some drops) but he makes up for it elsewhere in toughness, ability to grab YAC, route running, etc. Most importantly this guy is money in big games.

~primetime~ 02-14-2017 11:11 PM

Re: 2017 Off Season Thread
 
https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/s...ir-yards/2016/

that is all from YAC

49.3% of Brady's passing yardage is YAC

Brady has 4.17 'AIR YARDS' per attempt...19th overall

yeah he will go deep to Hogan every now and then, but the bulk of his passing is short yardage to Edelman/Gronk

~primetime~ 02-14-2017 11:12 PM

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StephHamann 02-15-2017 05:47 AM

Re: 2017 Off Season Thread
 
Quote:

"I wanted to play the game as more of a chess game. One moves gonna lead to another, you're not going to get the King immediately 4 yard here , 5 yard there 10 yard here is more wearing on a defense than one 70 yard touchdown and that was more my style than anything."
- Joe Montana

CelticBaller 02-15-2017 10:57 AM

Re: 2017 Off Season Thread
 
Cruz is done and we are stacked at the WR anyways

Rather spend money on the D backs, Bennett and draft


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