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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say that..
MJ/Kobe would be the best players BY FAR, because no one made anywhere near the jumpshooting variety or VOLUME that they made.. they could average 30+ by shooting all jumpers, while guys with poor jumpshooting skill (lebron) would average maybe 10 ppg or less.
both MJ/Kobe made over 700 jumpshots in their peak seasons - that's 250 more than lebron or curry's highest volume seasons, and at an efficiency that exceeded lebron's best jumpshooting seasons
Last edited by 3ball; 09-18-2020 at 11:04 PM.
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Cancer
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
yes yes quite true OP
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We Stay Winning
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
What if they didnt have to?
Oh, it would just be the NBA?
Thanks bye
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Landslide honors
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
At least that settles LeBron > AD
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truth serum
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NBA All-star
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
The answer to this is dirk but guessing you didn’t watch him either. No one took such a high amount of jump shots on his accuracy and he had 3 pt range too.
No offense to Kobe but there are multiple stars better than him at jumpshooting. Kd is an obvious choice clearly better at it. Ofc idk if you’ve watched kd either
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
The answer to this is dirk but guessing you didn’t watch him either. No one took such a high amount of jump shots on his accuracy and he had 3 pt range too.
No offense to Kobe but there are multiple stars better than him at jumpshooting. Kd is an obvious choice clearly better at it. Ofc idk if you’ve watched kd either
OP had admitted he hasn't watched an NBA game in 10 years
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
Originally Posted by Wally450
Cool story bro
Effective FG% on all jumpshots for Curry, MJ, Lebron
................. eFG% All Jumpshots
Lebron 2004: 35.6%, 324/998
Lebron 2005: 39.9%, 400/1136
Lebron 2006: 41.7%, 423/1166
Lebron 2007: 39.5%, 372/1066
Lebron 2008: 39.4%, 338/1001
Lebron 2009: 42.2%, 366/1024
Lebron 2010: 43.4%, 356/970
Lebron 2011: 45.4%, 393/968
Lebron 2012: 43.7%, 290/726
Lebron 2013: 49.0%, 333/784
Lebron 2014: 47.0%, 288/736
Lebron 2015: 43.1%, 280/788
Lebron 2016: 39.0%, 181/543
Bryant 2000: 38.5%, 328/851
Bryant 2001: 43.0%, 460/1141
Bryant 2002: 41.8%, 478/1184
Bryant 2003: 44.1%, 597/1494
Bryant 2004: 40.3%, 282/787
Bryant 2005: 43.5%, 346/947
Bryant 2006: 46.5%, 709/1724
Bryant 2007: 46.7%, 556/1358
Bryant 2008: 44.6%, 468/1217
Bryant 2009: 45.0%, 519/1285
Jordan 1997: 51.2%, 727/1528
Currry 2015: 56.0%, 424/1029
Currry 2016: 62.9%, 389/847
both MJ/Kobe made over 700 jumpshots in their peak seasons - that's 250 more than lebron or curry's highest volume seasons, and at an efficiency that exceeded lebron's best jumpshooting seasons
btw, Lebron shoots worse at higher volume, while Kobe/MJ maintain their efficiency because they're simply much better jumpshooters (greater jumpshooting repertoire - they can get jumpers off in many more ways with greater accuracy)
Infact, their volume and greater contested shooting ability makes them better jumpshooters than Curry
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All washed up
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.
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truth serum
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
Originally Posted by ThatCoolKid
What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
Originally Posted by ThatCoolKid
What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.
only jordan was a goat driver and goat jumpshooter.. ONLY jordan has this.. so no
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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
This guy is increasingly losing it. LeBron 7 wins away from another chip.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock
This guy is increasingly losing it. LeBron 7 wins away from another chip.
my arguments are unaffected by Lebron's 4th ring and infact become more relevant
he'll always have a skill restriction to ball-domination, so he can never play the best brand that dominates the championship level.. ultimately, his skillset turns teammates to play-finishers, which doesn't develop brand or young players, thus forcing him to team-hop for ready-made stars.. that's sad and not even top 10, let alone #2..
essentially, his lack of jumpshooting skill prevents him from playing the off-ball "shooter" role, thus keeping him on-ball and hogging the passing duties (low assist teams and low ball movement brand that goes 4/10 on the championship level)
so get ready for people to do more deep dives and my arguments to become more standard.. lebron will never be goat because the facts and his skills don't support it
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