Baller234 is the stupidest poster in ISH History when it comes to politics

[Norcaliblunt]

Baller and RRR3 are pretty much the same. Reactionaries. That’s what’s funny. Lol.

Add Nanners and you’ll have the “reactionary club of the year”!!!!

[Axe]

Baller and RRR3 are pretty much the same. Reactionaries. That’s what’s funny. Lol.

Add Nanners and you’ll have the “reactionary club of the year”!!!!

[j3lademaster]

whenever he's losing or finds himself cornered in a debate, which is most of the time, he always tries to cling to some random fact out of desperation like it's supposed to discredit the other person. he does this frequently no matter what the topic is at hand.

"oh yea well pffftttt at least i don't watch matt walsh..."

"oh yea well pffftt at least i don't support genocide..."


lol well okay then retard, guess what.... you think a man can become pregnant. game over. you win the "i'm a fukking retard" olypmics.

You’re the only person here talking about pregnant men. If a woman wants to identify as a man as a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT… that is up to that person. Its no different from your buddy Ryan wanting to go by Sawyer instead. It doesn’t affect you. As long as his official documents say youre Ryan, and the trans man’s sex is still male for medical purposes why does it matter?

You can draw the line in sports or bathroom rights, sure, but anything beyond that is psychotic. Do you not like freedom?

[Baller234]

You’re the only person here talking about pregnant men. If a woman wants to identify as a man as a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT… that is up to that person. Its no different from your buddy Ryan wanting to go by Sawyer instead. It doesn’t affect you. As long as his official documents say youre Ryan, and the trans man’s sex is still male for medical purposes why does it matter?

You can draw the line in sports or bathroom rights, sure, but anything beyond that is psychotic. Do you not like freedom?

how can a woman identify as a man?

what is a woman? what is a man?

[j3lademaster]

how can a woman identify as a man?

what is a woman? what is a man?

Gender is social construct. People can identify as whatever, doesnt affect me. Sex is whatever youre born as, it’s important for medical reasons, but if you’re not that person’s doctor, it shouldn’t matter to you either.

Bathroom and sports is iffy. I personally never gave a shit about women’s sports and Im not going to pretend to be outraged now because im horny to hate on a group of people. If the other female competitors are cool with it, let them compete? Who am I to say otherwise. Same with bathrooms. If women don’t give a shit neither do I.

[Baller234]

Gender is social construct. People can identify as whatever, doesnt affect me. Sex is whatever youre born as, it’s important for medical reasons, but if you’re not that person’s doctor, it shouldn’t matter to you either.

Bathroom and sports is iffy. I personally never gave a shit about women’s sports and Im not going to pretend to be outraged now because im horny to hate on a group of people. If the other female competitors are cool with it, let them compete? Who am I to say otherwise. Same with bathrooms. If women don’t give a shit neither do I.

you didn't answer the question, friend.

what is a woman? what is a man? in what ways are they unique and different from each other?

be specific.

[diamenz]

If the other female competitors are cool with it, let them compete? Who am I to say otherwise. Same with bathrooms. If women don’t give a shit neither do I.

...except they're not okay with it.

the problem is they're afraid to speak up about it because it's 2023 and we're living in a woke world where you'd be chastised and hit with a whole handful of labels if you do so.

what the fucc kind of female competitor would be okay with going up against a 6' 200 lbs beast of a man?

"welp, she won by a long shot this time... and last time... and the time before that. but the important thing about competitive sports is that everyone feels like they belong"!

trophies for everyone!

[SATAN]

what the fucc kind of female competitor would be okay with going up against a 6' 200 lbs beast of a man?

beast of a woman*

[j3lademaster]

...except they're not okay with it.

the problem is they're afraid to speak up about it because it's 2023 and we're living in a woke world where you'd be chastised and hit with a whole handful of labels if you do so.

what the fucc kind of female competitor would be okay with going up against a 6' 200 lbs beast of a man?

"welp, she won by a long shot this time... and last time... and the time before that. but the important thing about competitive sports is that everyone feels like they belong"!

trophies for everyone!

you left out a crucial part of my post

I personally never gave a shit about womenÂ’s sports and Im not going to pretend to be outraged now because im horny to hate on a group of people.

I'm not trying to champion trans people specifically. I don't think about trans issues as much as Matt Walsh and anti-trans conservatives. I don't think even trans people do, the average trans person probably has their hands full with work, friends, family and having a life like the rest of us. I'm more defending people's freedom to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. As far as sports, I never gave a shit about women's sports and I don't now. Most people don't, it's evident in how much money the WNBA loses and how empty the soccer stadiums are when the women play. The difference is I don't pretend to all of a sudden to feign outrage. If women are cool with it that's good enough for me. Don't give a rat's ass either way. If they aren't cool with it and the NCAA is letting Lia Thomas swim anyway, tough titties, there are worse injustices going on. Again, women's sports- don't care.

the problem is they're afraid to speak up about it because it's 2023 and we're living in a woke world where you'd be chastised and hit with a whole handful of labels if you do so.

Based on what? There's no data to back this up, and until there is this statement isn't true because it requires a burden of proof. Can you find a few examples of batshit lefties doing this? Sure. But there's no way you can generalize it across the group besides your own personal feelings on the matter.

[Baller234]

j3lademaster i noticed you didn't respond to my post.

before we continue this discussion, you first need to clarify both what a man and what a woman is and how they are different from one another.

seems like a simple enough task.

[diamenz]

you left out a crucial part of my post



I'm not trying to champion trans people specifically. I don't think about trans issues as much as Matt Walsh and anti-trans conservatives. I don't think even trans people do, the average trans person probably has their hands full with work, friends, family and having a life like the rest of us. I'm more defending people's freedom to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. As far as sports, I never gave a shit about women's sports and I don't now. Most people don't, it's evident in how much money the WNBA loses and how empty the soccer stadiums are when the women play. The difference is I don't pretend to all of a sudden to feign outrage. If women are cool with it that's good enough for me. Don't give a rat's ass either way. If they aren't cool with it and the NCAA is letting Lia Thomas swim anyway, tough titties, there are worse injustices going on. Again, women's sports- don't care.

Based on what? There's no data to back this up, and until there is this statement isn't true because it requires a burden of proof. Can you find a few examples of batshit lefties doing this? Sure. But there's no way you can generalize it across the group besides your own personal feelings on the matter.

so what you're saying in a nutshell is that you don't care because it doesn't affect you. although at the same time you're leaning towards siding with the transexual's perspective as long as the biological females are okay with it.

...but we don't know whether or not they're okay with it. people are afraid to speak out against anybody else considered a 'minority' or 'oppressed group' because of how sensitive these subjects are nowadays. nobody wants to offend anyone else and risk having the spotlight put on them so they stay silent.

[j3lademaster]

so what you're saying in a nutshell is that you don't care because it doesn't affect you. although at the same time you're leaning towards siding with the transexual's perspective as long as the biological females are okay with it.

...but we don't know whether or not they're okay with it. people are afraid to speak out against anybody else considered a 'minority' or 'oppressed group' because of how sensitive these subjects are nowadays. nobody wants to offend anyone else and risk having the spotlight put on them so they stay silent.

No, I'm on the side of people having the rights to do whatever as long as they're not impeding on anyone else's(rights). You bring up sports, but sports aren't a right. Men's football and basketball subsidize virtually all of college athletics, so if colleges wanted to abolish men's volleyball or women's swimming tomorrow, I have no problem with it. Can you name the top NCAA volleyball players in the nation? If so, good for you. Most probably can't because they don't care.

Otoh, wanting to drag on the weekends, **** consenting adults of the same sex, or identify as whatever is your right. As long as you're not hurting anyone else, it's psychotic for anyone to care this much. The fact that you have someone like Matt Walsh who can build an entire career out of just chastising trans people means there's a lot of bored, angry Karens out there.

[Baller234]

No, I'm on the side of people having the rights to do whatever as long as they're not impeding on anyone else's(rights). You bring up sports, but sports aren't a right. Men's football and basketball subsidize virtually all of college athletics, so if colleges wanted to abolish men's volleyball or women's swimming tomorrow, I have no problem with it. Can you name the top NCAA volleyball players in the nation? If so, good for you. Most probably can't because they don't care.

Otoh, wanting to drag on the weekends, **** consenting adults of the same sex, or identify as whatever is your right. As long as you're not hurting anyone else, it's psychotic for anyone to care this much. The fact that you have someone like Matt Walsh who can build an entire career out of just chastising trans people means there's a lot of bored, angry Karens out there.

actually no, you can't identify as whatever you want. a man cannot identify as a woman because he isn't a woman.

that is like saying a white man can identify as an black man. he can pretend if he wants, but he's not actually black. there isn't a single black fraternity or a black manned organization in the world that would approve his membership.

as for sports not being a right, that is not the point genius. nothing is a right. the fact of the matter is that if you are going to have sports, it only makes sense to divide them into male and female. if only in the interest of fairness. there is zero case for a man competing with women. physical competition isn't about affirming your identity, it's about proving your merit.

basically you want to do away with female only spaces, be it sports or otherwise. because you don't think females are entitled to female only spaces. and what's sick is that it's usually the people on your side of the fence who call others misogynists and woman haters.

[j3lademaster]

actually no, you can't identify as whatever you want. a man cannot identify as a woman because he isn't a woman.

that is like saying a white man can identify as an black man. he can pretend if he wants, but he's not actually black. there isn't a single black fraternity or a black manned organization in the world that would approve his membership.

If a white guy is genuine about identifying as black, I personally don't care. If he's doing it ironically to belittle trans people, he's an asshole. Simple as that. Am I supposed to treat a black guy differently than a white guy? A trans person might ask me to use a pronoun they're comfortable with, what would a white guy identifying as black ask for?

as for sports not being a right, that is not the point genius. nothing is a right. the fact of the matter is that if you are going to have sports, it only makes sense to divide them into male and female. if only in the interest of fairness. there is zero case for a man competing with women. physical competition isn't about affirming your identity, it's about proving your merit.

Again, Idgaf about women's sports and don't pretend to. Never have. But that bolded is funny. Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness are rights. Do people not have rights in your ideal world?

basically you want to do away with female only spaces, be it sports or otherwise. because you don't think females are entitled to female only spaces. and what's sick is that it's usually the people on your side of the fence who call others misogynists and woman haters.

How the hell did you come to that conclusion? And why are you so focused on trans women? Trans men exist, too.

You're actually the one who believes 'women aren't entitled to female only spaces' since 'nothing is a right'.

[Baller234]

If a white guy is genuine about identifying as black, I personally don't care. If he's doing it ironically to belittle trans people, he's an asshole. Simple as that. Am I supposed to treat a black guy differently than a white guy? A trans person might ask me to use a pronoun they're comfortable with, what would a white guy identifying as black ask for?

you're dodging the issue at hand. if a white guy chooses to identify as black, whether you care or not, that doesn't make him black. just like a man identifying as a woman doesn't really make him a woman. saying this out loud in public 10-15 years ago would have turned you a laughing stock at best and committed to an insane asylum at worst.

assume it's the year 2045 and an ultra woke socialist is elected president and their first order of business it to give black people reparations in the form of cash payments. according to your own logic, anyone can be eligible so long as they "identify" as black.

the fact of the matter is that no matter what, a man can never be a woman. a man can present themselves as a trans woman sure, but that doesn't make them an actual woman. a trans woman is not a woman.

if you disagree then by all means, please tell us what you think a man and a woman is and explain what makes them unique from one another.