BREAKING: Nico fired!

[tontoz]

where are the wizards? Rebuilding. You think the wizards are trying to win the championship? Sometimes it seems you don’t even grasp the concept of rebuilding. That became pretty clear when you took issue with having Jordan Poole on the team at $30 million because he wasn’t playing well when the team obviously was trying to lose and the money was immaterial because his contract was keeping you off the salary floor.

I’m leaving at one point you thought you made a good point by telling me he makes $30 million to suck as if you couldn’t get your head around a team trying to lose having players who suck isn’t accomplishing the goal And that in a sport with a salary floor, you don’t have the option to pay nobody because the league takes the money anyway and distributes it to the players.

But it did shed some insight into your thought process. It’s all about what you feeeeeel. It doesn’t feel right to pay somebody a lot of money who doesn’t make the team better Even if you don’t want the team better, and the money would be paid anyway.

Just like somehow, the idea of signing a guy to a giant contract still bothers you when your team didn’t have to pay any of it and still managed to tank for pics and has pic swaps available for years and years and years from a team that looks to be rebuilding itself.

knowing you can take a likely bad team’s draft picks for years in exchange for something you didn’t want while they pay for it it somehow still not a positive because of your feelings And the team still being bad when the team doesn’t want to be good…

Fans at the same problem they criticize a lot of teams for. Get so dug into a position they’ll deny the truth rather than change course Because changing course isn’t an admission of being wrong. Only thing is a front office completely changing course after several years might come with consequences like losing a seven figure job.

Dude on the Internet will be outraged over some shit that ends up being nothing but positive and have to talk themselves into staying mad forever when there’s nothing at stake and the only impediment is lacking the emotional maturity to admit they were wrong.

That contract didn’t do shit to hurt the wizards at all because they immediately got out from under it exactly like I told you they could, and all that resulted was positives the extent of which we won’t know for at least five more years.

But my all means continue to sulk about the positives that came of you being wrong.

Anyway…I need to wash like two weeks of clothes from being on the road. I’m sure one of you will bring it up again in the future. But it won’t be me. Not even when the camera pans over to Boris Diaw or whoever Phoenix sends out there to sit there awkwardly while ESPN gets the graphic package together to show that the lottery pick they just got transfers to the wizards….

I won’t say a word. But you’ll know. And somehow it will probably override what should be a happy time for you. And that’s the most ****ed up thing about it.

you have a nice day though.

I don't understand the concept of rebuilding? I was the one that said we should start the process back in 2022 ffs. Even heard of a guy named Wemby? We could have started tanking for that draft.

Instead we started tanking for a draft where Risacher went number 1.

We are 69-186 since Beal signed that contract, we've received no actual draft compensation from the Beal trade and the best player we've drafted since Beal is gone. So yeah i am not seeing the benefit of signing Beal.

[Kblaze8855]

Because they happened along a brand new NBA owner who didn't know what he was doing either?

Talk about being purposefully obtuse. You have to be the most prideful poster this board has ever seen.

accusations of pride from someone whose entire argument is denying that someone can know more than they do about a subject and connecting it to a discussion where they were factually incorrect, but feel like they wouldn’t have been if reality were something other than what it is. You can’t just be wrong. It went exactly the way I said it could because the world itself was wrong to allow it.

this place can be such a delight at times. A tedious delight. But a delight nonetheless.

you have a great day as well.

[tontoz]

accusations of pride from someone whose entire argument is denying that someone can know more than they do about a subject and connecting it to a discussion where they were factually incorrect, but feel like they wouldn’t have been if reality were something other than what it is. You can’t just be wrong. It went exactly the way I said it could because the world itself was wrong to allow it.

this place can be such a delight at times. A tedious delight. But a delight nonetheless.

you have a great day as well.

So why couldn't the Suns trade that contract, which was a few years shorter? Why did they pay $100 million to buy out Beal?

*crickets*


KBlaze is like the poker player that goes all in pre flop with 6-8 off and feels smart that he won.

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So why couldn't the Suns trade that contract, which was a few years shorter? Why did they pay $100 million to buy out Beal?

*crickets*


KBlaze is like the poker player that goes all in pre flop with 6-8 off and feels smart that he won.

He knows. It’s just a pride problem.

[Phoenix]

Perfect, I can now sign off the internet for today.

But generally speaking and without obviously being on the inside of these organizations, is Nico the fall guy here? Like, whose idea was this to trade Luka and come up with this grand plan in the first place? Did Nico go to the owners, or did they say we don't want to pay the supermax? Either way, there's absolutely no way he made this move unilaterally. All in all, what an absolute shitshow and embarrassment to the organization, I genuinely feel bad for Mavs fans.

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Perfect, I can now sign off the internet for today.

But generally speaking and without obviously being on the inside of these organizations, is Nico the fall guy here? Like, whose idea was this to trade Luka and come up with this grand plan in the first place? Did Nico go to the owners, or did they say we don't want to pay him the superman? Either way, there's absolutely no way he made this move unilaterally. All in all, what an absolute shitshow and embarrassment to the organization, I genuinely feel bad for Mavs fans.

No, Nico is not the fall guy. He is truly that incompetent and funnily enough it seems to stem from a pride problem, lol. Maybe kblaze is Nico.

It was a weird set of circumstances. A new owner that knows absolutely nothing about basketball combined with a prideful GM who went to said owner and got Cuban cut out after the deal for the franchise was in place. Then convinced the ignorant owner this is what needed to be done and here we are 9 months later. Fired because the owner figured it out.

[Meticode]

wanted to move Doncic and set him up to be the fall guy for fan wrath.

This is what I felt happened. Ownership asn't happy with Doncic's conditioning and attitude for $300+ million and they told Nico to move him. It makes no sense they'd do it out of nowhere randomly like it happened. Someone above him told him to move Doncic.

[Phoenix]

No, Nico is not the fall guy. He is truly that incompetent and funnily enough it seems to stem from a pride problem, lol. Maybe kblaze is Nico.

It was a weird set of circumstances. A new owner that knows absolutely nothing about basketball combined with a prideful GM who went to said owner and got Cuban cut out after the deal for the franchise was in place. Then convinced the ignorant owner this is what needed to be done and here we are 9 months later. Fired because the owner figured it out.

May go down as the most epic blunder in NBA history, at least in recent memory. I don't know if that's slightly hyperbolic but man what a fukk-up.

[Xiao Yao You]

To be fair, we never got a chance to see Nico's vision (AD + Kyrie + supporting cast). Who knows how it might've looked? We might get to see if they don't blow it up.

Flagg was either a conspiracy or sheer luck.

The problem is it was unlikely we would ever see that. Davis is injury prone. Kyrie might have decided birthday parties were more important. I can see trading luka. Trading him for davis without looking at other offers was idiotic.

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I can see trading luka. Trading him for davis without looking at other offers was idiotic.

This right here specifically is what almost indisputably points away from the idea that the ownership initiated the trade idea.

Even if ownership just wanted to cut costs and salary dump and start over and whatever else, they could have fielded offers and had a field day with picks.

[ArbitraryWater]

There are no conspiracies or underhanded dealings. This a very simple case.

The Mavs organisation for a combination of reasons, wanted out of the Luka business. Either because they didnt wanna pay him a supermax, were sick of his conditioning issues and likely thought they'd seen the best of Luka. They thought they could win a chip either last season or this one and justify that decision. What they didnt account for was AD getting hurt (as stupid as that is) and Kyrie getting hurt (as stupid as that is). As someone above said, we never got to see Nico's vision. BUT when you have two injury prone aging players, their health was always going to be a timebomb but they didnt expect it to blow up as soon as it did.

However everything else is fairydust.

Niko wasn't helping the Lakers because he is friends with Pelinka.
The NBA didnt fix the draft to give the Mavs Flagg.
The Mavs owners didnt sabotage their own team to instigate a move to Vegas.

Or any other cockamamie theories out there. This was a dumbass organisation who made a dumbass move and it could not possibly have gone worse for them since it happened. Like Final Destination shit really, the #1 pick aside.

wut

[Proctor]

It was, and will continue to be the worst trade in NBA history he made...out of shape Luka or not.

I don't care to go too far re-hashing this point again but it is worth noting that the team was expertly crafted around Luka and was in every position to contend at the highest level (not to mention a year removed from just doing so). It wasn't some "on paper" team, it was a perfectly crafted, well rounded and deep team. The only boogeyman possibly in the way would be OKC, who the Mavs at that time had an answer for.

lol. Still mind boggling.

Inexcusably, comically idiotic.

[Real Men Wear Green]

SGA plus picks and assets for Paul George will always be worse.

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SGA plus picks and assets for Paul George will always be worse.

That's not how that works at all. You're talking about with the benefit of 100% hindsight.

Proctor is without question directly addressing what it obviously was in the moment, which was pure stupidity. Speculation wasn't needed. We didn't need a year or 5 to see how it would play out. It was just immediately bad.

[beasted]

Well deserved!

Does anyone else believe that the threat of a trade could have done just as much as the trade itself in motivating Luka to get in shape?