Can someone provide me an actual example of America putting Israel first?

[Baller234]

I don’t care about that one particular example. I’m addressing the fact that you’re deviating from the premise that YOU posited.

Not to speak for diamez as well, but what you’ve done here is ignore several points that were made by just blatantly claiming you were too lazy to address them (or maybe even read them), and now globbing onto the the most recent point, that wasn’t even actually his. And now that gives you the out to continue to ignore the many others presented to you.

It’s textbook Baller. @diamez, again not meaning to speak for you. Just calling this exchange as I see it.

Lmao, bro get the fukk outta here.

That mf'er made like 25 different points in a single post and they were all mentally retarded. "Genocide", "land theft", all that other "Israel bad" woke right bullshit... some contested story about a navy ship from 60 years ago. I'm sorry but I actually refuse to partake in that and dismantle every single argument because it would literally take me too long. Maybe it if it was like 2-3 salient points.

I asked him to give me his SINGLE BIGGEST bone of contention, the one thing he wanted to me to answer for, and it was about the U.S. ambassador to Israel meeting with someone from Israel. Wow, really? LOL.

And if your grand thesis isn't "Israel controls America"... then WHAT IS your thesis?? That Israel is corrupt? That they have a lobby? That AMERICA is corrupt?? Wow. Brilliant analysis. You really are a big brained genius. Astounding insight you have there.

Maybe I'm not smart enough to hang with you guys.

[ShawkFactory]

Lmao, bro get the fukk outta here.

That mf'er made like 25 different points in a single post and they were all mentally retarded. "Genocide", "land theft", all that other "Israel bad" woke right bullshit... some contested story about a navy ship from 60 years ago. I'm sorry but I actually refuse to partake in that and dismantle every single argument because it would literally take me too long. Maybe it if it was like 2-3 salient points.

I asked him to give me his SINGLE BIGGEST bone of contention, the one thing he wanted to me to answer for, and it was about the U.S. ambassador to Israel meeting with someone from Israel. Wow, really? LOL.

And if your grand thesis isn't "Israel controls America"... then WHAT IS your thesis?? That Israel is corrupt? That they have a lobby? That AMERICA is corrupt?? Wow. Brilliant analysis. You really are a big brained genius. Astounding insight you have there.

Maybe I'm not smart enough to hang with you guys.

Jesus Christ. Wow.

[highwhey]

Lmao, bro get the fukk outta here.

That mf'er made like 25 different points in a single post and they were all mentally retarded. "Genocide", "land theft", all that other "Israel bad" woke right bullshit... some contested story about a navy ship from 60 years ago. I'm sorry but I actually refuse to partake in that and dismantle every single argument because it would literally take me too long. Maybe it if it was like 2-3 salient points.

I asked him to give me his SINGLE BIGGEST bone of contention, the one thing he wanted to me to answer for, and it was about the U.S. ambassador to Israel meeting with someone from Israel. Wow, really? LOL.

And if your grand thesis isn't "Israel controls America"... then WHAT IS your thesis?? That Israel is corrupt? That they have a lobby? That AMERICA is corrupt?? Wow. Brilliant analysis. You really are a big brained genius. Astounding insight you have there.

Maybe I'm not smart enough to hang with you guys.

damn dude, you're getting destroyed and you want to pretend you aren't.

[diamenz]

Bro who do you think you're kidding? You're saying you haven't been trying to convince everyone that Israel is pulling America's strings? All that stuff about who was backing Trump's campaign? About Epstein? The only reason "Israel" is such a sticking point for you in the first place is because you believe that somehow they compromise our interests.

And no sorry, I'm not gonna let you paint me as some "protector" of Israel. I could honestly give two fukks about Israel in the grand scheme of things. I never said anyone wasn't free to criticize them. And no I never insinuated that they're squeaky clean or that they probably haven't done their fair share of shady shit. If I'm "protecting" them from anything it's from deranged conspiracy theories that involve our own country. The whole "America First" bullshit is predicated on not wanting to be a friend of Israel. Nothing more.

You're the ones obsessed with Israel. Not me.

you're the one that started this thread guy. you provoked the conversation on israel to get rolling again at a time when the political forum had taken a step back from it all.

all the while you danced around this thread in glee singing to yourself that there were no legitimate examples, patronizing and speaking down on everyone that tried to participate.

then hoopsny gave you a most recent one that you for whatever reason refused to address and just today refused to conduct any more than ten minutes of research over. instead you dismissed it with no credibility backing your dismissal.

i give you six examples, not twenty-five as you dramatize and exaggerate like a *ucking female would and then it's "well i don't have the time to dissect and counterargue these points, they're ridiculous, i win and you all lose - case closed".

so who's the fool?

[Patrick Chewing]

you're the one that started this thread guy. you provoked the conversation on israel to get rolling again at a time when the political forum had taken a step back from it all.

all the while you danced around this thread in glee singing to yourself that there were no legitimate examples, patronizing and speaking down on everyone that tried to participate.

then hoopsny gave you a most recent one that you for whatever reason refused to address and just today refused to conduct any more than ten minutes of research over. instead you dismissed it with no credibility backing your dismissal.

i give you six examples, not twenty-five as you dramatize and exaggerate like a *ucking female would and then it's "well i don't have the time to dissect and counterargue these points, they're ridiculous, i win and you all lose - case closed".

so who's the fool?

You've made countless threads on Israel, so please, spare us from your finger pointing.

[diamenz]

it was about the U.S. ambassador to Israel meeting with someone from Israel. Wow, really? LOL.

"someone", he says. 'just any old chap'.

apparently you have zero knowledge of who this "someone" is as well as the scope of what they were convicted of doing against our country. ten minutes of biased research will do that to you.

[diamenz]

You've made countless threads on Israel, so please, spare us from your finger pointing.

has mamdani ruined your city yet?

[Baller234]

"someone", he says. 'just any old chap'.

apparently you have zero knowledge of who this "someone" is as well as the scope of what they were convicted of doing against our country. ten minutes of biased research will do that to you.

Okay and Trump invited Taliban leaders to Camp David, what's your point? He wasn't having them over for coffee, it was business.

Mike Huckabee is the U.S. ambassador to Israel. This person is from Israel and likely has intel. There could be a million different reasons for Huckabee wanting to summon him. Could it be nefarious? Sure. Could it be something else entirely? Sure. What I do know is that you have no fukking clue what was discussed or why the meeting took place.

What do you think happened? You think Huckabee pulled his pants down and sucked him off? You think the israeli spy guy gave him some shekels under the table in exchange for his servitude? What EXACTLY do you know other than the fact that a meeting took place??

[diamenz]

What do you think happened?

oh you want me to make my case? i could have been well on my way to doing that last night if we hadn't gotten bogged down in all of your bullshit. now unless you have adhd or the attention span of a two year old, pay attention for a few minutes and you might learn something. i promise this is < a four minute read despite how daunting it looks.

let's start by laying out the facts regarding jonathan pollard. pollard is an american-born convicted spy and traitor who was sentenced to life in prison for espionage in the late eighties for selling state secrets to israel which included tens of thousands of classified, top secret military intelligence and nsa documents that israel then in turn handed over to the soviets during the cold war, in effect endangering us security imperatives, in exchange for releasing russian jews to emigrate from the soviet union to israel.

in addition to not only being unabashedly forthcoming through public statements about being blatantly anti-america and even more importantly in the context of this meeting anti-trump as well, pollard has also publicly advocated for the use, not the threat but the use, of israeli nuclear weapons against america if we failed to continue to do the bidding of the israeli agenda after 7 october (which by the way is a blatant admission that israel does indeed have nukes which everybody knows to be true anyway). this information and interview footage is widely available online. you could probably even find and watch it in under ten minutes, Baller234.

now on to the meat & potatoes of this issue so stay with me. it's not just that pollard spied for israel and that israel learned our secrets, it's that israel (our greatest ally, it's important to remember) took those secrets, turned around and traded them to the soviet union, our greatest enemy on the planet at the time. so for our ambassador to number one, not only invite and meet with pollard at the us *ucking embassy (us sovereign territory, it's important to remember) as a convicted spy with an especially rich anti-american history but to meet with him off the books and number two, to do it behind the back of our president, secretary of state and even our cia is unfathomable, unprecedented and absolutely unforgivable and in any sane world the man would and should resign or be fired for doing something so patently outrageous.

it's also well known in the political world that mike huckabee is an extreme evangelical christian zionist and it's my belief, as demonstrated through his actions here, that his personal faith trumps and jeopardizes his ability to do his job and conduct himself properly as a us diplomat. huckabee was one of the nutjobs along with other israeli figures including netanyahu (our gReAtEsT aLlY, remember) that actively lobbied in our face for pollard's release and gave him a red carpet welcome after his release from prison. so stop for a minute and think about that. this is absolutely abhorrent and should have you apoplectic as an american that a foreign country, one we're constantly being told is our greatest ally, would spit in our faces like that.

'*uck you america, what are you gonna do about it'?

so frankly, i don't think that the man can control himself, i don't think that his judgement is clear and with this latest revelation nor do i think that he's equipped or qualified for the job. what he's in effect done by meeting with pollard in secret is that he's endangered the us, endangered us foreign policy and should without question be removed and in my opinion arrested.

so does the answer to the $64,000 question being asked in this thread even have to be spelled out for anyone that's either not mentally retarded or shamelessly israel-first? it's important to understand and ask yourself the following things:

what were these two talking about behind our president's back? Baller234 said that "well he may have useful intel for us" which made me spit out my *ucking drink. that's how foolish ten minutes of research will make you look. or maybe they were talking about all of the wonderful things that they're planning to stuff in trump's stocking this christmas. it has to be something that benefits america, right? no, seriously - whatever was being discussed you'd have to be an absolute and utter retard to believe anything otherwise. here you have an ideologically-driven evanglical christian zionist nut and a convicted israeli spy meeting in secret. do the *ucking math. you don't have meetings with the most radical of traitors unless you're talking about something nefarious and given the individuals involved, you can bet your last dollar that it prioritizes (what an understatement) israeli interests over ours and potentially even puts us and/or the president at risk in a myriad of different ways. what possible good for american foreign policy could this meeting have accomplished? what possible good for our president and country could it have accomplished?

furthermore, what other country or rather, what other american ally could get away with something like this? where is the media coverage? why aren't our politicians screaming from the rooftops. they couldn't possibly be bought!? why hasn't trump took huckabee aside and said something along the lines of "if you don't have a perfect answer to why you went behind my back and met with a convicted traitor to my country, i'm not only firing you but having you arrested for treason. only israel people, only israel.

and then you have the deafening silence from our political establishment. to put this into perspective, imagine the reaction if the roles were reversed and someone like ilhan omar were meeting with a convicted spy that had handed over our secrets to doha. yeah, enough said. and it wouldn't be just republicans up in arms but the uniparty as a whole that would have her ass up against the walls of congress in cuffs quicker than mario andretti in the indy 500.

and do you all know who brokered this meeting? a man named david milstein, who just so happens to be the stepson of mark levine, one of if not the most well known pro-israel spokespersons in american media. man, the puzzle seems to just get easier and easier to piece together, doesn't it? for some of us, anyway.

finally to @Baller234 - the card-carrying arbiter and gatekeeper of hypocrisy on insidehoops:

you want to not only cry like a bitch accusing tucker carlson of being an islamic agent but in addition to that there's all this hubbub from your ilk about having all types of problems with people like nick fuentes yet you and the other israel-firsters and supposed magas don't have jack *ucking shit to say about our ambassador, somebody who has actual power, inviting a convicted traitor who worked on behalf of israel against us to our soil.

...you want to talk about shit like foreign interference and qatari influence but your lips aren't just zipped shut on this meeting but you go out of your way to try and justify it all the while acting as if you're a legitimate and passionate member of the america-first movement? and then you have the gall to not only require an explanation as to how this favors israeli interests over our own but have the audacity to consider that this meeting may have been to the benefit of us???








un-*ucking real guy. you are some *ucking character, you know that?

[highwhey]

damn, diamenz went in on baller. i'm totally sure baller will take this seriously and respond earnestly.

[highwhey]

where's OP?

[Axe]

Lmao, bro get the fukk outta here.