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Old 11-09-2009, 04:18 AM   #16
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The sport of basketball. That's the "we" I was referring to.

I wasn't "flaming" you, and if I was I wouldn't use terminology from 2001 that no one uses anymore. I was being honest: if you're really going to be 6'11", be a f-cking big man. Versatility is fine and all. Big men who can pass are terrific. It makes it all that much better to run your offense through them. Big men who can beat you on the pick-and-pop are terrific, too. Definitely be good at those things.

But realize that if you're 6'11", while those things are important, they're secondary. Own the paint. Rebound and block shots. Develop three or four good post moves and a counter to those moves. Hit the weights so you can't get pushed off the blocks.

A 6'11" guy who can handle the ball, shoot threes and take people off the dribble is impressive and all, but none of those are among, like, the top eight things I'd want from a center.

Think about this: how many tall guys in this era have gone the same, lame, "I don't wanna be a center" path that you're talking about? Well, what happens when true low-post players who use their size properly, like Al Jefferson or Brook Lopez come along? They're exponentially more valuable than they would have previously been. Because not nearly enough big man embrace playing that way these days.

And you did assume incorrectly. As always, there's no correlation between how well someone can play a sport and how well someone analyzes a sport.

Wow sorry dude, I cant believe I actually said that stuff, I had mates over and was being a massive dick. Thanks heaps for your advice, I can see that it would be reasonable for people to assume (and quite accurately) that I would be playing under the paint.

My question was rather, SHOULD I focus on perimeter shooting or not bother?


Thanks guy's and yes I AM going to be 6'11 we have been to several specialists and they have all got the same thing, blood tests, bone marrow tests etc and they all came to 6'10 or 6'11. They could be wrong but I doubt it.

Once again thanks guys. I was also wonderign if there were any good youtube videos teaching some effective post moves, to beat a man off the dribble and lay up etc?
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:44 PM   #17
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The sport of basketball. That's the "we" I was referring to.

I wasn't "flaming" you, and if I was I wouldn't use terminology from 2001 that no one uses anymore. I was being honest: if you're really going to be 6'11", be a f-cking big man. Versatility is fine and all. Big men who can pass are terrific. It makes it all that much better to run your offense through them. Big men who can beat you on the pick-and-pop are terrific, too. Definitely be good at those things.

But realize that if you're 6'11", while those things are important, they're secondary. Own the paint. Rebound and block shots. Develop three or four good post moves and a counter to those moves. Hit the weights so you can't get pushed off the blocks.

A 6'11" guy who can handle the ball, shoot threes and take people off the dribble is impressive and all, but none of those are among, like, the top eight things I'd want from a center.

Think about this: how many tall guys in this era have gone the same, lame, "I don't wanna be a center" path that you're talking about? Well, what happens when true low-post players who use their size properly, like Al Jefferson or Brook Lopez come along? They're exponentially more valuable than they would have previously been. Because not nearly enough big man embrace playing that way these days.

And you did assume incorrectly. As always, there's no correlation between how well someone can play a sport and how well someone analyzes a sport.

just becuase you're 6'10" doesn't mean you have to be a center. Look at Hedu Turkouglou, Rashard Lewis, hell ****in LeBron. Don't let your size dictate how you play. I mean not all people can be bangers down inside. There is nothin wrong with having an outside touch.
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:54 PM   #18
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I honestly hope my post didn't seem arrogant, as I by no means am such.
I have been to height specialists and they have forseen that I will be 6'10 - 6'11. 211 cm''s basically.

And trust me guys, I work on my d everyday, shoot for an hour, cardio for 1 and then do plyo

I am willing to work, I have been gifted with height, now I have to work for it.
Don't bank on growing, i was 6'3-6'4 going into my freshman year and only grew 2 inches. I thought I'd end up at least 6'8 but it didn't happen. Right now i'm 19 and a legit 6'5, you put some shoes on me and I could be listed at 6'7.
These doctor "tests" judge nothing more than your potential to grow, it's not certain.

If you really want to play D1 basketball you should really get a trainer or your coach to put together a workout plan. Lift weights and eat well. Size (weight and strength) is biggest difference between D1 and D2 athletes.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:16 AM   #19
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just becuase you're 6'10" doesn't mean you have to be a center. Look at Hedu Turkouglou, Rashard Lewis, hell ****in LeBron. Don't let your size dictate how you play. I mean not all people can be bangers down inside. There is nothin wrong with having an outside touch.
There's never anything wrong with having an outside touch. And you don't have to be a "banger" to be a low-post stud. Kevin McHale owned the best low-post moves ever and he wasn't what you'd call a "banger."

But guys like Lewis and Turkouglou are the exceptions. Even in the NBA you still only have a handful of true perimeter players that are close to 7 feet tall. Even in the NBA, those guys are the exception.

Sure, you don't HAVE to play any certain way. But if I was 6'11", I'd take my chances with doing things 6'11" guys are supposed to do.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:20 AM   #20
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Don't bank on growing, i was 6'3-6'4 going into my freshman year and only grew 2 inches. I thought I'd end up at least 6'8 but it didn't happen. Right now i'm 19 and a legit 6'5, you put some shoes on me and I could be listed at 6'7.
These doctor "tests" judge nothing more than your potential to grow, it's not certain.

If you really want to play D1 basketball you should really get a trainer or your coach to put together a workout plan. Lift weights and eat well. Size (weight and strength) is biggest difference between D1 and D2 athletes.
I don't know that size is the biggest difference between DI and DII players. Villanova just went to the Final Four with a starting lineup that went something like 6'0", 6'2", 6'5", 6'6", 6'8". UNC didn't play anyone taller than
6'9" on either of their title teams the last five years. KU's national title team had guards that were 5'11", 6'1" and 6'2", a 6'5" wing and a pair of 6'8"ish bigs in their starting lineup. Illinois went 37-2 in '05 with a starting lineup that went 6'0", 6'3", 6'3", 6'6" and 6'10".

A huge team like the Florida title teams is the exception, not the rule. (And even with their huge frontcourt, they still had tiny guards.)

The difference between DI and DII isn't size. It's simply how good the players are.
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Old 11-10-2009, 05:53 AM   #21
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I don't know that size is the biggest difference between DI and DII players. Villanova just went to the Final Four with a starting lineup that went something like 6'0", 6'2", 6'5", 6'6", 6'8". UNC didn't play anyone taller than
6'9" on either of their title teams the last five years. KU's national title team had guards that were 5'11", 6'1" and 6'2", a 6'5" wing and a pair of 6'8"ish bigs in their starting lineup. Illinois went 37-2 in '05 with a starting lineup that went 6'0", 6'3", 6'3", 6'6" and 6'10".

A huge team like the Florida title teams is the exception, not the rule. (And even with their huge frontcourt, they still had tiny guards.)

The difference between DI and DII isn't size. It's simply how good the players are.

I would hope so.

Thanks for your advice everyone.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:20 PM   #22
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Thanks guy's and yes I AM going to be 6'11 we have been to several specialists and they have all got the same thing, blood tests, bone marrow tests etc and they all came to 6'10 or 6'11. They could be wrong but I doubt it.


Not trying to put a downer or anything but don't bank on being that tall. I know many dudes who said their doctors said they would be 6 foot but just stopped growing.

Don't bank on it. Not saying you won't be 6'11" but dont bank on it cus you might be disappointed.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:55 PM   #23
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Lol, I am 6'4 now and 14. I have had bone marrow tests, you see, they measured my wrists as they develop and some how they saw that I am going to be 6'11 as my wrists showed them that.

I am definite that I will be 6'8+ And IF for some odd reason that is not true, developing my shooting and handles couldn't possibably be a hindrance
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