in 1995, the year the admiral won his mvp, hakeem clobbered him in the playoffs, HOWEVER, i agree with BeachPoet on this one. if you look at their accomplishments and stats up until 1994 (that's 9 years into hakeem's career and 6 years into david's) they are very similar. if you actually watched them back in the day, robinson was probably equally intimidating as a basket defender, better at running guys down on the break, and more athletic (in terms of hops and sprinting speed). hakeem actually peaked very late, but at his peak he was a phenominal player, definitely better than david. for the course of their careers though, they weren't so different. i never thought robinson had the need to win though. to me hakeem seemed like more of a leader by example. david made a better second banana.
one of the recent posts here in ish was about "who owned whom".
one persons comment was that hakeem owned d. rob. i believe that it was primarily because of the highlights of a few dream shakes that hakeem put on david in the playoffs in 1995 (?)
in the head to head games i watched of the two, i never got the sense that hakeem dominated robinson. i considered it, overall, pretty close
hakeem played more games than david so his totals in all catagories are better but their per game averages are very close
david has two rings; hakeem also
hakeem was overall better defensively
This isn't about stats. Its about the absolute dominance of one elite player over another. I watched that series and have never seen a top player just embarrassed the way D. Rob was. It got to the point where I felt sorry for the guy... his head was down; at times he looked straight-up depressed.
I remember Avery Johnson in one of the huddles that was miked clearly stating that the team "couldn't count on David" (because he was getting owned) and had to find a way to win without him. It sounds incredible, but I clearly remember being shocked that Avery would come out and say that. He was obviously the team leader, not Robinson.
It wasn't just highlights. Hakeem put a historic beat-down on D. Rob.
Thank Ralph Sampson, and a better team for that. Hakeem played on some very good teams, from earlier in his career too. Robinson was stuck by himself until the mid to late 90's. And please, for the love of god... a prime David Robinson is better than a prime Tim Duncan. David Robinson's career numbers 21.1 ppg, 3 bpg, 11 rpg, 3 apg, 1 spg. And that is after injuries deluted his skills, and playing time past the 1999 - 2000 season. If you compare their best numbers from the primes of their careers, Robinson is better than Duncan. I'd take a prime Admiral 10 times out of 10 over a prime Tim Duncan. As for Hakeem v.s. Robinson? Meh, tough ass question. Can't decide.
If you compare their best numbers from the primes of their careers, Robinson is better than Duncan. I'd take a prime Admiral 10 times out of 10 over a prime Tim Duncan.
Forget the numbers, Duncan has the winning intangibles that Robinson never had. He's a better leader, and more respected by his teammates. I don't take the Admiral over Duncan even one time out of ten.
Robinson was a freak of nature, no doubt, but he always played soft to me. Never really known as a tough, clutch player -- sort of like a slightly better version of KG in that regard.
Duncan would NEVER have allowed himself to be owned like Robinson was against Hakeem.