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Old 09-09-2007, 08:52 AM   #1
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Quick question MJ is the greatest player to ever play the game, but does that make him the greatest ever Washington Wizard?
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:59 AM   #2
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Quick question MJ is the greatest player to ever play the game, but does that make him the greatest ever Washington Wizard?

Are you including the Bullets or just Wizards?
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:06 AM   #3
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just the wizards
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:10 AM   #4
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Default Re: Michael Jordan the Wizard

Well then hell yes he is the best Wizard. Who else would be better? Jerry Stackhouse, Rip Hamilton and Popeye Jones?
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:17 AM   #5
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Default Re: Michael Jordan the Wizard

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just the wizards

When Jordan came back, he said it was "teaching", so it would appear he wasn't going to try to take over, just help his front office objectives. That aside, he is the only 40 year old to score 40.
At the same time, I can't remember if Webber was still around when they changed, Juwan wasn't doing bad, but Gilbert is outplaying them both. Jordan just didn't seem to have as much impact as he had hoped at first, but look at Hamilton after two years next to him. I think MJ is not the best Wizard, but Rip is proof of the impact MJ could still have at 40. Still, hard to go past Arenas. Sorry for rambling.
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:18 AM   #6
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Wes Unseld?
Elvin Hayes?
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Default Re: Michael Jordan the Wizard

No matter how you look at it Michael Jordan is always going to be known as a Bull not a Wizard. He might be the best player to ever play on the Wizards because he is obviously the best player in the history of the game despite his old age when he played for them. I would put him ahead of Arenas just for now. So this is how I see it.

1. Michael Jordan
2. Gilbert Arenas
3. Rip? Antwan? Stackhouse?
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Bernard King?
Mitch Richmond?
Rod Strickland?
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Default Re: Michael Jordan the Wizard

MJ's best season with the Wiz was around 23/6/5. Last year Arenas put up 28/6/4.5. If that isn't better than what MJ did, this next season will be.
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just the wizards

The great Bullets coming up are why I asked, although I forgot about Richmond
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:30 AM   #11
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MJ's best season with the Wiz was around 23/6/5. Last year Arenas put up 28/6/4.5. If that isn't better than what MJ did, this next season will be.

If you're comparing Jordan in old age to Arenas in his prime obviously Jordan was a better player (generally).

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True. I had my mind set on more recent.

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You're comparing Jordan in his old age to Arenas in his prime? Sorry, but Arenas could never measure to what Jordan did. Not just in numbers either.
Well you tell me - what age was Jordan on the Wizards?

And yes Gilbert could easily measure up to what Jordan did. He didn't exactly win the MVP and lead them to a championship.
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Well you tell me - what age was Jordan on the Wizards?

And yes Gilbert could easily measure up to what Jordan did. He didn't exactly win the MVP and lead them to a championship.

38-41 on the Wizards.
Neither is Gilbert is he?
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Hell no Michael Jordan isn't the greatest Wizard.


-Walt Bellamy played four and a half seasons with the Wizards franchise when they were called the Chicago Packers, Zephrys and then Baltimore Bullets. He made 4 All-Star games, took them to the division finals (now called conference finals). His best season, put up 32 and 19.

-Gus Johnson played 9 seasons in Baltimore. He mae the All-Star team 5 times, 4 All-NBA second teams and 2 defensive teams. Helped Baltimore reach the Finals.

-Earl Monroe played his early career in Baltimore, He made 2 All-Star games and 1 All-NBA 1st team. Also helped Baltimore to the NBA Finals.

-Wes Unseld played for the Bullets his whole career. Baltimore, Capital and Washington. Won MVP his rookie season and All-NBA. He m,ade 5 All-Star appearances and 3 Finals before finaly winning in 1978.

-Elvin Hayes played a bulk of his career for the Bullets, 9 pf his 16 seasons. In those 9 seasons, made 8 All-Star appearances, many All-NBA and won a title.

-Gilbert Arenas has played the last 4 seasons as a Wizard. Has made 3 straight All-Star appearances and 3 straight All-NBA teams. Took the Wizards also to 3 straight playoff births. Hasn't happened since Wes and Big E were playing.


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-Chris Webber
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-Michael Jordan
-Antawn Jamison
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Default Re: Michael Jordan the Wizard

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38-41 on the Wizards.
Neither is Gilbert is he?
This post does nothing to prove your claim that "Arenas could never measure to what Jordan did." Maybe for starters you should describe what Jordan did, and then we can debate whether Gilbert is capable of it as well.

Because as far as I can see, Arenas has already done what Jordan did with the Bulls (post similar/better stats and lead them to the playoffs).
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