Cooper Flagg Discussion Thread

[Im Still Ballin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuObkCFqoQI&ab_channel=FrankieVision

[tontoz]

I am not a fan of having Cooper as the primary ball handler. It might help his development but it also might hurt his confidence because he will surely struggle. He doesn't have the handles of LeBron or Luka.

[ShawkFactory]

I am not a fan of having Cooper as the primary ball handler. It might help his development but it also might hurt his confidence because he will surely struggle. He doesn't have the handles of LeBron or Luka.

I don’t know if they’ll actually do it in the regular season. In summer league it makes sense though to let him handle it and let it fly.

[Im Still Ballin]

I wouldn't worry, it's way too early to make that call. Everything is progressing nicely, and even if he becomes great on-ball, it'd be a waste to limit him to a heliocentric role. His off-ball game could become lethal - the movement shooting, spot-up shooting & closeout dribble-drives, the cutting, the screen & roll, the pick & post. For all we know, he could become a Lauri-like off-ball threat.

LeBron's handle looked shaky in Summer League play; he had trouble bringing the ball up the court at times. Had a nine-point, two-rebound, one-assist, five-turnover game in twenty-four minutes.

IMO, LeBron's athleticism & 245-to-260-pound-plus, wide-bodied frame has always covered for certain deficiencies in handling the ball. A functional handle is a functional handle, but James' handle has always lacked a flexible fluidity & lateral quality. He can look/has looked stiff, mechanical, and rigid at times.

Not so with Luka. Doncic is truly impressive dribbling the ball. Cooper's handle is more like LeBron's & Giannis' when you account for the confounding variables (size, athleticism). Has a wide body to shield the ball, but is not quite as heavy, strong, and explosive as James. However, he's got a longer stride/covers more ground per dribble. More like Giannis. Check the near-dunk against SAS.

[Im Still Ballin]

I think Lauri (2022-23) might be the only player with 100+ dunks & 200 made threes in a season. Flagg might be someone who can hit that mark with regularity.

[Hey Yo]

Cooper Flagg's summer league days are over, according to Marc Stein. The Mavericks are expected to shut down the No. 1 overall pick for the remainder of the Las Vegas Summer League, which means the next time we'll see him in game action will be during the preseason.

[3ba11]

I see NOTHING special about his game.. Just look at the highlights from his 2nd summer league game - what waa special??? ... Today's spaced-out format allows ANYONE that commands the ball to get 30 points with a basic repertoire - but he won't command the ball like that alongside Kyrie, AD or Klay, nor will he score well vs that level of comp, so I see him m being a 15 ppg guy for his career. He won't be a big scorer.. again, nothing special about his game where it's like "oh boy horford and jaylen brown better watch out for that".. literally nothing.. An ordinary player just propped up and the ball put in his hands

[ShawkFactory]

I see NOTHING special about his game.. Just look at the highlights from his 2nd summer league game - what waa special??? ... Today's spaced-out format allows ANYONE that commands the ball to get 30 points with a basic repertoire - but he won't command the ball like that alongside Kyrie, AD or Klay, nor will he score well vs that level of comp, so I see him m being a 15 ppg guy for his career. He won't be a big scorer.. again, nothing special about his game where it's like "oh boy horford and jaylen brown better watch out for that".. literally nothing.. An ordinary player

He’s quite literally 2 and a half years from being able to legally have a beer. At the same age Jordan was about to enter his freshman year of college.

[tontoz]

Tre has been lighting it up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eLCyWILJ9k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbf7GF9uOfs

[3ba11]

He’s quite literally 2 and a half years from being able to legally have a beer. At the same age Jordan was about to enter his freshman year of college.


He's already at his ceiling - he can't get better, and there's nothing special about his game

Otoh, here's 17-year old Kobe in summer league looking athletic , quick, DYNAMIC and SPECIAL

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1GWRW-kMoA


Night and day

[ShawkFactory]

He's already at his ceiling - he can't get better, and there's nothing special about his game

Otoh, here's 17-year old Kobe in summer league looking athletic , quick, DYNAMIC and SPECIAL

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1GWRW-kMoA


Night and day

:oldlol:

Sure.

[90sgoat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuObkCFqoQI&ab_channel=FrankieVision

Looks great here.

Long strides, very strong, long arms.

He's the SF version of AD.

[90sgoat]

I don't really like Coop dribbling outside the 3 point line, he looks like a mix of Lebron and Durant trying to make moves, which isn't good.

I really like his bread and butter shot-fake and drive, which is going to be most of his points. He has a decent 3 point shots, so he can catch and shoot but maybe half the time its a fake and a strong drive to the basket for an easy dunk. Then he just needs to learn to kick it to the corner and thats basicaly 30-10-10 in this era.

[Im Still Ballin]

Looks great here.

Long strides, very strong, long arms.

He's the SF version of AD.

His long strides really stand out, don't they? He's quite similar athletically to AD.

[90sgoat]

His long strides really stand out, don't they? He's quite similar athletically to AD.

Yeah I was thinking, he also looks like Giannis right, in those long strides, but he's more bulky naturally, more like AD.

I think he's going to be exciting, smart player.

I like how he already has this simple move "fake 3 to drive to basket" just like me fr fr. Simple move, but go hard to basket and its efficient.

Pretty sure he's going to average 20 ppg pr game or close without a lot of usage or time of possession.

[tontoz]

Off topic but I was deleting some old images from my Photobucket account and came across this gem from 3ball :lol

https://hosting.photobucket.com/61c9c379-dc9e-4342-8972-a3c17258e5a1/92d6ed0c-4536-41d6-b603-de795824f936.jpg