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[QUOTE=basketballcat;14749615]He was MVP 5x. If they handed out FMVPs, he would have about 5 as well. 11+ 5 + 5 = 21. :lebronamazed:
How about DPOY? That's a major award too. If they handed those out, Russell would have a lot.
By your metric, Horry is better than Olajuwon. :facepalm :kobe:[/QUOTE]
He still doesn't have any.
Let's try this.
Peak criteria:
FMVP: 1 point
Champ as a starter: 0.5 point, do not double count with FMVP
MVP: 1 point
DPOY: 1 point
Longevity criteria:
All NBA: 0.5 point, do not double count with MVP
All Defensive: 0.5 point, do not double count with DPOY
Top 5 all time in any of the 5 major stats: 1 point
Top 10 in any of the 5 major stats: 0.5 point
Winning:
Made playoffs: 0.1 points
Made Finals: 0.3 points
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FMVP: assume Russell has 5, as he had 5 MVPs
So, who is the GOAT? I honestly didn't do the maths.
[QUOTE=basketballcat;14749622]Let's try this.
Peak criteria:
FMVP: 1 point
Champ as a starter: 0.5 point, do not double count with FMVP
MVP: 1 point
DPOY: 1 point
Longevity criteria:
All NBA: 0.5 point, do not double count with MVP
All Defensive: 0.5 point, do not double count with DPOY
Top 5 all time in any of the 5 major stats: 1 point
Top 10 in any of the 5 major stats: 0.5 point
Winning:
Made playoffs: 0.1 points
Made Finals: 0.3 points
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FMVP: assume Russell has 5, as he had 5 MVPs
So, who is the GOAT? I honestly didn't do the maths.[/QUOTE]
We can't assume Russell has 5 because he has 0. Let's assume all others only had to win 2 series to win a title and joined a ROY and MVP as well how many titles in an eight team league? See how that works?
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14749624]We can't assume Russell has 5 because he has 0. Let's assume all others only had to win 2 series to win a title and joined a ROY and MVP as well how many titles in an eight team league? See how that works?[/QUOTE]
I touched on quality of rings on my OP.
You're trying way too hard now op, i suggest you cut it out.
first criteria - can’t be out scored by an aging, zero time all star, undersized shooting guard on the biggest stage
[QUOTE=basketballcat;14749625]I touched on quality of rings on my OP.[/QUOTE]
Well, GoatTits, if you were serious about ring quality then you would admit that 2020 is the biggest joke of a ring of all time.
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[QUOTE=basketballcat;14749622]Let's try this.
Peak criteria:
FMVP: 1 point
Champ as a starter: 0.5 point, do not double count with FMVP
MVP: 1 point
DPOY: 1 point
Longevity criteria:
All NBA: 0.5 point, do not double count with MVP
All Defensive: 0.5 point, do not double count with DPOY
Top 5 all time in any of the 5 major stats: 1 point
Top 10 in any of the 5 major stats: 0.5 point
Winning:
Made playoffs: 0.1 points
Made Finals: 0.3 points
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FMVP: assume Russell has 5, as he had 5 MVPs
So, who is the GOAT? I honestly didn't do the maths.[/QUOTE]
More arbitrary BS from the no narratives guy.
[QUOTE=Overdrive;14749659]More arbitrary BS from the no narratives guy.[/QUOTE]
If you want the quick and simple version: 11 rings. There, done.:yaohappy:
[QUOTE=warriorfan;14749628]first criteria - can’t be out scored by an aging, zero time all star, undersized shooting guard on the biggest stage[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, Terry Cummings :yaohappy:
[QUOTE=Full Court;14749656]Well, GoatTits, if you were serious about ring quality then you would admit that 2020 is the biggest joke of a ring of all time.
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Nah. It's the one where Payton held Pippen Lite to a pathetic 41.5 FG%. Kemp was as good as any player in that series.
[QUOTE=basketballcat;14749670]If you want the quick and simple version: 11 rings. There, done.:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]
So you think it hurts me that Russell could be considered GOAT? Quite the opposite. You on the other hand are desperate that Lebron could not be considered GOAT.
[QUOTE=Overdrive;14749678]So you think it hurts me that Russell could be considered GOAT? Quite the opposite. You on the other hand are desperate that Lebron could not be considered GOAT.[/QUOTE]
So you think it hurts me that Russell could be considered GOAT? Quite the opposite. He IS the GOAT. Kareem or LeBron 2nd. :lebronamazed: