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I'm not ready to stop with them. I think Kyrie has CP3 potential. He has a similar combination of vision,ability to get into the lane,playmaking skills and shooting ability to be a similarly great player. He might not reach the potential, but that's another story.
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[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Off the top of my head, the Cavs and Raps fanbases have convinced themselves that this guy is Jesus in a point guard jersey. They actually want to tank and trade established NBA players just for the best opportunity to draft this dude.
Don't ask me how, but its a fact.
Now moving on... when's the last time a prospect received so much hype for basically doing nothing?? Duke won the championship with the same team he re-joined and basically stymied ball movement in the loss against Arizona.
The guy is a 6'1 attacking, scoring guard that many have convinced themsleves is the best point guard prospect since Jason Kidd.
What the hell are people smoking, man???[/QUOTE]
Who is better than him right now? Most people know this is a weak draft.
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I don't think he is THAT overrated. This draft just isn't quite as strong as previous years. Nothing to be excited about IMO.
I recently saw a workout clip
[URL]http://www.nba.com/video/channels/draft/2011/05/17/20110517_irving_workout.nba/index.html[/URL]
Doesn't seem like hes a good shooter, but athletic. I know it's one vid, but they posted it so probably were like, "yea, it doesn't get much better." John Wall displayed way better shooting abilities and hes not even considered a good shooter.
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I really like Irving, but I don't think he grades out in the absolute apex of current NBA PGs. He's not in the Paul/Deron/Rose tier, maybe Rondo in there too, although he's so weird he's hard to place.
The problem is Irving plays a similar game to Paul, so the comparisons are gonna come from there, and in this draft, he does get bumped up some. But based on what's here, I'd have no objections to someone taking him one.
However, because of how this draft fell, with Cleveland landing both 1 and 4, I'd be inclined to pass on Paul up top and take Derrick Williams. There's less similar talent to Williams floating around in this draft. I'm not positive he's a franchise player, mainly because I don't completely trust his handle, but between his body and his jumpshot, he'll play, and be productive for a long time. I'd prefer to roll the dice with Williams, and then, maybe it'd be considered a bit of a reach, but take Brandon Knight at 4.
Basically, niether Irving nor Williams will be there at 4, and I think Knight is closer as a prospect to Irving at PG than anything that'll be available at Williams' SF position.
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I'd do the same but with Kemba in place of Knight. Scott's offense will make Kemba a star and Williams is a great talent who will probably start at the 3 and also be the stretch 4 behind Hickson. At least after next year when Jamison is gone. Trade Baron Davis for Rip Hamilton and sign a backup C. A Knight/Sessions combo wouldn't be the worst thing in the world either if they don't like Kemba
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[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]N*gga, I'm a prophet with this sh*t. Go ask about me. I'm never wrong.[/QUOTE]
Lol do we need to post all your predictions? you're never right :roll: :roll: :roll:
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[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]N*gga, I'm a prophet with this sh*t. Go ask about me. I'm never wrong.[/QUOTE]
ofc
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I had my doubts about Kyrie, but damn he looks like he's going to be elite.
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Dumbest posetr on ISH
for real
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PB looking like a fool:lol
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[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Off the top of my head, the Cavs and Raps fanbases have convinced themselves that this guy is Jesus in a point guard jersey. They actually want to tank and trade established NBA players just for the best opportunity to draft this dude.
Don't ask me how, but its a fact.
Now moving on... when's the last time a prospect received so much hype for basically doing nothing?? Duke won the championship with the same team he re-joined and basically stymied ball movement in the loss against Arizona.
[COLOR="Red"]The guy is a 6'1 attacking, scoring guard that many have convinced themsleves is the best point guard prospect since Jason Kidd.
What the hell are people smoking, man???[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=alwaysunny]True, there has been quite a few who could've used couple more years in college (Marvin Williams comes to mind). I don't think Irving is one of them however. [COLOR="Blue"]This thread is asking to be bumped few years later when Irving meets the expectations.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve][COLOR="Red"]N*gga, I'm a prophet with this sh*t. Go ask about me. I'm never wrong.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="Red"]Red[/COLOR] = Dumb
[COLOR="Blue"]Blue[/COLOR] = Smart
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PB isn't the only dumbass in this thread though.
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This definitely deserves a bump with the creation of his "Cleveland Will have the Best Backcourt" thread. Thanks to Meticode for finding it. I had it in my subscribed folder but deleted it month or two ago.
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Thread replies: 57
Thread views: 13,000+
Thread winner: Me
Now continue on with the nonsense. Even when you dudes try to make me look bad, I continue to look good. MODS got jealous and moved the thread because they can't attract the attention that I do. Typical.
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[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Thread replies: 57
Thread views: 13,000+
Thread winner: Me
Even when you dudes try to make me look bad,[/QUOTE]
10,000 of those views are you refreshing the thread. Loser: You.
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[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Thread replies: 57
Thread views: 13,000+
Thread winner: Me
Now continue on with the nonsense. Even when you dudes try to make me look bad, I continue to look good. MODS got jealous and moved the thread because they can't attract the attention that I do. Typical.[/QUOTE]
So the more people who view your incorrect predictions, the better you look?
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Top 300 by the end of his career
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[QUOTE=BrickingStar]Top 300 by the end of his career[/QUOTE]
:lebronamazed:
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[QUOTE=Goliath Uterus]So the more people who view your incorrect predictions, the better you look?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIqN7Cj2Sjw[/url]
reminds me of that... lol
-Smak
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Stop typing words related to basketball.
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Another prediction from OP that turned into "pure gold".
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Funny how opinions change
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4 years later:
3x All-Star
1x All NBA
Rookie of the Year
1x NBA ASG MVP
1x FIBA World Cup MVP
1x 3PT Champion
OP still holding tight.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]4 years later:
3x All-Star
1x All NBA
Rookie of the Year
1x NBA ASG MVP
1x FIBA World Cup MVP
1x 3PT Champion
OP still holding tight.[/QUOTE]
Also made his first NBA Finals appearance, and during this regular season set the Cleveland Cavaliers franchise scoring record with 57 points. Following up a 55 point performance.
Kyrie ****ing killing it in the league :lol
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OP is a Dion Waiters stan. :roll:
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[QUOTE=MP.Trey]OP is a Dion Waiters stan. :roll:[/QUOTE]
Op IS Dion Waiters
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How does a Dion Waters stan even exist?
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[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]How does a Dion Waters stan even exist?[/QUOTE]
Hey man, there were many Waiters stans among Cavs fans, including myself...
Just look at my nickname :lol :lol
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[QUOTE=Warners0]Kyrie Irving is a monster. The Cavs couldn't ask for a better player to build around for next year.[/QUOTE]
Called it.
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