Bird and Lebron passing video

[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]Could Bird make this pass?:coleman:

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2675253/lepass2_medium.gif[/img]


another good one....out of the post/seal:biggums:

[b]▶ LeBron James With a Beautiful Behind-the-Back Pass to Anderson Varejao - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2P9-ezKmw[/url]


[b]LeBron Behind The Back Pass Vs Magic (5.26.09)[/b] (one handed block/bassline)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8vlyksfic[/url]

[b]▶ LeBron James Behind-the-Back Pass to Big Z (10.30.09) - YouTube[/b] (similar pass but to Big z)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMMFXA8s8ik[/url]


made this look simple but it's not!

[b]LeBron James' sick inbound behind the back pass to Mike Miller[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykkzkQXekoQ[/url]

different angle

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHImjtjKGCo[/url][/QUOTE]

Those are great, entertaining passes, but to answer your question, Bird made fancy passes like that on a routine basis, as well.

To be honest, I'm not really impressed by the last one because the player guarding the inbound pass played it so poorly and seemed to lack any real effort.

Both Bird and Lebron were/are great passers and the question as to who's better is highly subjective. I personally feel Bird's assists came in greater variety and were a bit more creative, while Lebron passes with a bit more oomph.

There's a big difference between passing because your teammates open and passing because youre too scared to shoot

troll aside both has different approach, bird has score first mentality, he would pass if he doesnt get a good look,
but bron is looking to pass first and try to score himself if no teammates are open (and because hes so good at it, people think hes a scorer like melo/durant when actually he's a pass first player)

[QUOTE=Miller for 3]Lebron is better at passing the ball off the rim to the other team (aka bricks). So if that counts, then yes Lebron is better at passing (bricks) than Bird.[/QUOTE]
Probably the lamest thing I've ever read on here. You should be banned for this

My take is Lebron has point guard handles and pace to his game. In terms of vision, I believe they are equal. But Lebron can create better off the dribble. Lebron came into the L as a PG. As great as Bird was, u wouldn't put him at PG. Sure he's a point forward caliber player. Who is as good of a passer from a stationary spot ever. But Bron can create better off the dribble and more like PG's such as Magic, Stockton, Isiah, CP3, Nash, etc. U have SF's or point forwards like Bron, Hill, and Pippen who can flat out play PG, SG, and SF on both sides of the ball. Then u have point forwards like Bird and Barry who in the halfcourt and from a stationary spot can drop dimes as good as anybody.

[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]Could Bird make this pass?:coleman:

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2675253/lepass2_medium.gif[/img]


another good one....out of the post/seal:biggums:

[b]▶ LeBron James With a Beautiful Behind-the-Back Pass to Anderson Varejao - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2P9-ezKmw[/url]


[b]LeBron Behind The Back Pass Vs Magic (5.26.09)[/b] (one handed block/bassline)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8vlyksfic[/url]

[b]▶ LeBron James Behind-the-Back Pass to Big Z (10.30.09) - YouTube[/b] (similar pass but to Big z)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMMFXA8s8ik[/url]


made this look simple but it's not!

[b]LeBron James' sick inbound behind the back pass to Mike Miller[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykkzkQXekoQ[/url]

different angle

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHImjtjKGCo[/url][/QUOTE]

LUCKY PASSES

I didn't even bring up lebron's most basic 1 handed dart passes and his across the court/body bullets:biggums:


[b]Thunder vs. Heat: LeBron James highlights - 34 points, 10 assists (4.4.12) - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10WQizH3Yoo[/url]

@ 4:26

@ 4:48-: 4:52:eek: Could Bird hit you with darts like that? (again at 5:07)



[b]LeBron James no look pass to Chris Bosh vs Portland (2013.01.10) - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf9cNLPiRaw[/url]

too easy:coleman:

C'mon guys, gimme some Bird cross court bullets...? I know those guys in the '80s couldn't shoot threes, but surely he was capable of making so easy pass.

[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]


[b]Thunder vs. Heat: LeBron James highlights - 34 points, 10 assists (4.4.12) - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10WQizH3Yoo[/url]




[/QUOTE]
Those cross court passes are a thing of beauty given how simple he makes them look. If someone who hasn't played basketball in his life watches those, he'd think that he could do it but they are so fu[I]ck[/I]ing hard to do with lebron's accuracy.

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]Those cross court passes are a thing of beauty given how simple he makes them look. If someone who hasn't played basketball in his life watches those, he'd think that he could do it but they are so fu[I]ck[/I]ing hard to do with lebron's accuracy.[/QUOTE]


Lebron is the best at that pass hands down. Some more


[b]▶ LeBron James Full Highlights 2013.03.25 at Magic - 24 Pts, 11 Assists, 9 Rebs. - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eifqij4Jj8s[/url]

@ 4:01 left handed

@ 4:06 right handed

@ :57 underhanded dart:oldlol: :eek:

[B]People still trying to say Lebron's the better passer? :oldlol:

I mean, it's not far by any means but please, only Lebron fanboys, people who haven't seen enough of Bird or people that never played organized basketball/know nothing about the game, are going to say that LBJ is the better passer.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTI-Cmkp87A[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqDadqF3Ns[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFNQoY8RFk[/url]

That pretty much tops anything that Lebron has ever done, and he did that on the regular, plus we're talking about a guy that played 30 years ago.

Bird pulled passes on the regular that would be career passes for Lebron and only "happening" like a couple of times with him. Larry had more precision, had a longer variety with speed, put better spin, better IQ, knew where his teammates were going to be as opposed to only where they were, most of the time threw the right pass, could use the left hand much better, his flashy passes where needed as opposed to Lebron who over-does-it a whole lot, Bird did the necessary pass to get teammates easy bucks, passes that were extremely hard to pull, and he didn't need to over-handle the ball or dribble out the clock to put the hot potato on another's guys hands to get his passing numbers or put people out of their game like turning Bosh into a 3pt shooter or something lol.

Lebron's passes that people go crazy over, nowadays... Bird did better stuff regularly, hype wasn't the same as in this generation though lol.

Bird = greatest non-guard passer, top 5 passer ever
Lebron = one of the greatest non-guard passers, top 15/20 passer ever[/B]

If you never saw Larry play (99% of kids here on ISH), LBJ is your GOAT SF.

If you saw Larry play (1% of adults here on ISH), Bird is your GOAT SF.

Simple.

[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]C'mon guys, gimme some Bird cross court bullets...? I know those guys in the '80s couldn't shoot threes, but surely he was capable of making so easy pass.[/QUOTE]

There's footage out there somewhere of Bird making one of those passes left handed for an open three, I think to Danny Ainge. If I have time today I'll try to dig it up.

Bird did that stuff often, but the video footage of that era if obviously less-abundant than what we have today.

Also, offensive sets back then weren't as centered around the three point shot, and court spacing among players wasn't as wide, so there were fewer opportunities in a given game to make that kind of pass.

[QUOTE=jzek]If you never saw Larry play (99% of kids here on ISH), LBJ is your GOAT SF.

If you saw Larry play (1% of adults here on ISH), Bird is your GOAT SF.

Simple.[/QUOTE]

[B]Pretty much.[/B]

[QUOTE=Champ]There's footage out there somewhere of Bird making one of those passes left handed for an open three, I think to Danny Ainge. If I have time today I'll try to dig it up.

Bird did that stuff often, but the video footage of that era if obviously less-abundant than what we have today.

Also, offensive sets back then weren't as centered around the three point shot, and court spacing among players wasn't as wide, so there were fewer opportunities in a given game to make that kind of pass.[/QUOTE]

[B]This pass?[/B] [url]http://youtu.be/AbFNQoY8RFk?t=2m57s[/url]
[B]
Majority of players throughout history trying to make that pass with the non-dominant hand?.. Ball would've ended out of bounds. With Larry, it couldn't be more perfect, right in the shooting's pocket, Danny didn't even have to move an inch of his body or arms/hands. Just crazy that he would do that type of stuff regularly. [/B]

[QUOTE=jzek]If you never saw Larry play (99% of kids here on ISH), LBJ is your GOAT SF.

[b]If you saw Larry play (1% of adults here on ISH), Bird is your GOAT SF.[/b]

Simple.[/QUOTE]
I started watching NBA 2 years ago and even I know this

[QUOTE=HomieWeMajor]I started watching NBA 2 years ago and even I know this[/QUOTE]

[B]There's plenty of younger people who go to youtube and whatnot to watch past-eras games, or extensive games highlights. You can definitely see the greatness of someone like Larry Bird doing that, just to understand how amazing he was, some people don't even know it..[/B]

ShaqisGOAT.... Look, I was just a toddler the last time Bird played but my father was a huge Celtic fan (pbuh) & a basketball coach (how i got into basketball), he VHS taped around 200 games from the 80s Celtics (including much more of other games especially from 80s FIBA, Euro & Yugo cups), i have carefully used that <<REW button on my Hitachi on all those Celtic games and seen many other games thanks to [url]www.pontel.com[/url] DVD's, i became a massive Larry Bird fan... He is up there only with Drazen & Reggie my favorite players of all time, those are the games i emulated & players i idolised growing up.... I think Larry Bird is not only the best SF of all time but arguably/in my opinion the greatest overall actual basketball player i seen in terms of overall skills.... i think all his facets of the game were premiere... if he had better athleticism, oh my....

So please dont give me that Lebron homer / You have not seen Bird excuse (especially you CavaliersFTW) when i tell you that who the better passer was between Lebron / Bird is MUCH more contestable than what you think.... I am extremly nostalgic, but not in a prejudiced way, i love basketball more, i unfortunately have seen just as much as Lebron or others footage.... i can easily tell you he is right up there in terms of passing skills/vision and yes its not absurd to argue he was better just like it is for Bird.... unlike you that is not a statement, but just my opinion based on my awereness from both these players....

I thought Bird was by far the best passing non pg i ever seen, then Lebron came in and i have been just smh ever since until i gave up and said "Ok, fine, this guys passing is right up there".... actually, that is the main reason i like Lebrons game, his offensive mindset kindof reminds of Larry & Magic... without his vision/passing/ballcontrol he is just another Dominique with better defense or something afterall and i would then probably not been as fond of his game as i am right now, not sure lol....

[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]People still trying to say Lebron's the better passer? :oldlol:

I mean, it's not far by any means but please, only Lebron fanboys, people who haven't seen enough of Bird or people that never played organized basketball/know nothing about the game, are going to say that LBJ is the better passer.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTI-Cmkp87A[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqDadqF3Ns[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFNQoY8RFk[/url]

That pretty much tops anything that Lebron has ever done, and he did that on the regular, plus we're talking about a guy that played 30 years ago.

Bird pulled passes on the regular that would be career passes for Lebron and only "happening" like a couple of times with him. Larry had more precision, had a longer variety with speed, put better spin, better IQ, knew where his teammates were going to be as opposed to only where they were, most of the time threw the right pass, could use the left hand much better, his flashy passes where needed as opposed to Lebron who over-does-it a whole lot, Bird did the necessary pass to get teammates easy bucks, passes that were extremely hard to pull, and he didn't need to over-handle the ball or dribble out the clock to put the hot potato on another's guys hands to get his passing numbers or put people out of their game like turning Bosh into a 3pt shooter or something lol.

Lebron's passes that people go crazy over, nowadays... Bird did better stuff regularly, hype wasn't the same as in this generation though lol.

Bird = greatest non-guard passer, top 5 passer ever
Lebron = one of the greatest non-guard passers, top 15/20 passer ever[/B][/QUOTE]
why do you always write in bold? are your parents divorced and you feel like nobody pays attention to you?

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]why do you always write in bold? are your parents divorced and you feel like nobody pays attention to you?[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]why do you always write in bold? are your parents divorced and you feel like nobody pays attention to you?[/QUOTE]
whoa:roll: :roll: :roll:

LeBron James may be the best skip passer I have ever seen but he is not as good as an overall passer as Larry Bird.

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]why do you always write in bold? are your parents divorced and you feel like nobody pays attention to you?[/QUOTE]

[B]Says the guy with 1,282 posts since April :rolleyes:

Mommy got herself a new boyfriend or something?[/B]

[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]Pretty much.[/B]



[B]This pass?[/B] [url]http://youtu.be/AbFNQoY8RFk?t=2m57s[/url]
[B]
Majority of players throughout history trying to make that pass with the non-dominant hand?.. Ball would've ended out of bounds. With Larry, it couldn't be more perfect, right in the shooting's pocket, Danny didn't even have to move an inch of his body or arms/hands. Just crazy that he would do that type of stuff regularly. [/B][/QUOTE]

That's the one. Good find!

[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]People still trying to say Lebron's the better passer? :oldlol:

I mean, it's not far by any means but please, only Lebron fanboys, people who haven't seen enough of Bird or people that never played organized basketball/know nothing about the game, are going to say that LBJ is the better passer.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTI-Cmkp87A[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqDadqF3Ns[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFNQoY8RFk[/url]

That pretty much tops anything that Lebron has ever done, and he did that on the regular, plus we're talking about a guy that played 30 years ago.

Bird pulled passes on the regular that would be career passes for Lebron and only "happening" like a couple of times with him. Larry had more precision, had a longer variety with speed, put better spin, better IQ, knew where his teammates were going to be as opposed to only where they were, most of the time threw the right pass, could use the left hand much better, his flashy passes where needed as opposed to Lebron who over-does-it a whole lot, Bird did the necessary pass to get teammates easy bucks, passes that were extremely hard to pull, and he didn't need to over-handle the ball or dribble out the clock to put the hot potato on another's guys hands to get his passing numbers or put people out of their game like turning Bosh into a 3pt shooter or something lol.

Lebron's passes that people go crazy over, nowadays... Bird did better stuff regularly, hype wasn't the same as in this generation though lol.

Bird = greatest non-guard passer, top 5 passer ever
Lebron = one of the greatest non-guard passers, top 15/20 passer ever[/B][/QUOTE]

Didn't see anything in those videos lebron couldn't do:coleman: Lebron's does it off the bounce and stationary positions. Some more of that lebron vision..


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[quote]During Team USA’s quarterfinal meeting with Australia on Wednesday, 2012 NBA MVP, World Champion and Finals MVP LeBron James went where no Olympic baller has gone before, dropping the first triple double in Olympic history.

[b]LeBron’s most memorable play from the blowout win came when he threw a no-look pass between defender Aaron Haynes’ legs right into the hands of Carmelo Anthony for the bucket.[/b]

Although the pass wasn’t quite as nice as the full-court bounce pass that he hit Kevin Durant with earlier in the Olympics (aka the 2nd best pass in Olympic history), the play was impressive nonetheless.

With the triple double LeBron stays on pace to win MVP of the Olympics, currently in a dead heat with Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt.

Video of LeBron’s no-look between-the-defender’s legs pass to Carmelo Anthony, and his other no-look dime to Westbrook, after the jump…[/quote]


[b]▶ USA v AUS - Men's Basketball Quarterfinal | London 2012 Olympics - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiem1w_TvaA[/url]

It's in this video starting @ 21:39

some others gems in that video

12:07 lob to Chandler

27:34 touch pass to Westbrook

[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]
[img]http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1722823/leusa.gif[/img]
[/QUOTE]

Sickness, dont remember this one

2 handed laser pass:coleman:

[b]LeBron pass to Shane Battier against Lakers [/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2_WRmV83mI[/url]


[b]Lebron James behind the back inbound pass to Deron Williams[/b] (look at the dude guarding lebron on the inbound, he didn't see that pass coming lol )

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToegKjp4gUc[/url]

[b]▶ LeBron James left handed Bullet Pass to Big Z vs. Knicks (11.6.09) - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnq8OpeVyJM[/url]

[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]Pretty much.[/B]



[B]This pass?[/B] [url]http://youtu.be/AbFNQoY8RFk?t=2m57s[/url]
[B]
Majority of players throughout history trying to make that pass with the non-dominant hand?.. Ball would've ended out of bounds. With Larry, it couldn't be more perfect, right in the shooting's pocket, Danny didn't even have to move an inch of his body or arms/hands. Just crazy that he would do that type of stuff regularly. [/B][/QUOTE]
Looks much slower and precize than LeBron's average pass with the distance being much shorter with nobody in the path, but whatever:confusedshrug:

[b]LeBron's Full-Court outlet Chest Pass [/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_xA9bWYc_c[/url]


[b]Lebron James ridiculous full court save/pass to Wade (2011.12.28) - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCx8atwHxXM[/url]


[b]LeBron James 2 handed wrap around Bounce Pass To Wade @ Lakers - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-EWV6245YY[/url]


[b]LeBron James sick 2 handed bounce pass to Dwyane Wade Slam HD | Heat at Timberwolves | 3/4/13 - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQAl0RIrvu4[/url]


LBJ:biggums:

Who attempted to neg me, and say I am Pauk?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[B]Lebron is NOT a Better Pure Passer than Bird.

Lebron IS a Better Creator Cause of Ballhandling Skills.

Court Vision?, Savy? Magician Like Passes? Its Bird All The Way[/B]

[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][b]LeBron's Full-Court outlet Chest Pass [/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_xA9bWYc_c[/url]


[b]Lebron James ridiculous full court save/pass to Wade (2011.12.28) - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCx8atwHxXM[/url]


[b]LeBron James 2 handed wrap around Bounce Pass To Wade @ Lakers - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-EWV6245YY[/url]


[b]LeBron James sick 2 handed bounce pass to Dwyane Wade Slam HD | Heat at Timberwolves | 3/4/13 - YouTube[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQAl0RIrvu4[/url]


LBJ:biggums:[/QUOTE]

Wow, that pass against the Lakers to Wade is absolutely ridiculous.

[IMG]http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/65.+Can+anyone+tell+me+where+or+what+this+woman_db806b_4730234.jpg[/IMG]

some more Lebron gems:coleman:


[b]LeBron Takes Over in Portland [/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXR46RkStpE[/url]

:6 -> :12 that hangtime

:36 -> :51 that look away touch pass to Bosh for the trailing dunk:biggums:



[b]▶ LeBron James` Incredible look away angled laser bounce pass Assist to Wade vs Pacers - YouTube[/b] :eek:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPPkzc0eD9o[/url]

[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]Looks much slower and precize than LeBron's average pass with the distance being much shorter with nobody in the path, but whatever:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

He goes around two guys to make a pass against his own momentum, and threads it between both of them and a third defender while delivering it on point to his teammate's shooting position [I]left-handed.[/I]

Are we watching the same video?

[QUOTE=Champ]He goes around two guys to make a pass against his own momentum, and threads it between both of them and a third defender while delivering it on point to his teammate's shooting position [I]left-handed.[/I]

Are we watching the same video?[/QUOTE]
Wut?:biggums: He goes by one guy (with the other biting on a pump-fake) and then throws an easy pass through a completly open passing lane to a totally open guy in the corner. There is no third defender.

And the left hand should impress me? I'm a LeBron fan:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=KyleKong]Who attempted to neg me, and say I am Pauk?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]

Anybody who doesnt seem to author the impression of a Lebron misanthropist in most likely adolescent stage and hence combat the delusion they make with perfectly rational & factual replies is me in this forum.... take it as a compliment... :)

[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]Wut?:biggums: He goes by one guy (with the other biting on a pump-fake) and then throws an easy pass through a completly open passing lane to a totally open guy in the corner. There is no third defender.

And the left hand should impress me? I'm a LeBron fan:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Some people see what they want to see, I guess.

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[img]http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/501/968/LeBronBouncePass_original.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=KyleKong]Who attempted to neg me, and say I am Pauk?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
I got one too.
"obvious pauk alt"

[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2598889/lemvpgoathof.gif[/img]

[img]http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/501/968/LeBronBouncePass_original.gif[/img][/QUOTE]

You keep posting passes that Bird did in his sleep tbh. Not hating and those were really good passes but Larry did better stuff on the regular.

That 2nd pass Lebron was lucky that it didn't got intercepted, and KD had to catch it at his feet.