If Jordan didn't play for Wizards, he would be career 50% shooter

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Apart from a few teams pre 2008, I absolutely agree.

2007 Suns
2006 Suns
2006 Clippers
2005 Pistons
2004 Pistons
2000 Pacers

All played great team ball.

And 2000 - current Spurs.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, definitely. The Kings were great too. One of my favorite teams. Awesome ball movement. 2002 Kings were exciting basketball for me as a kid. And I liked Jason Williams before Mike Bibby came. He had some silk passes. Bibby was a better fit tho.

[QUOTE=Micku]Oh yeah, definitely. The Kings were great too. One of my favorite teams. Awesome ball movement. 2002 Kings were exciting basketball for me as a kid. And I liked Jason Williams before Mike Bibby came. He had some silk passes. Bibby was a better fit tho.[/QUOTE]
Shit how did I forget the 2000 - 2004 era King. Revise my list. Hell, even those 2001 - 2004 Mavs team that featured a powerful roster of: Finley, Dirk, Nash, Van Excel played pretty good team ball as well.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]lol @ you trying to sound smart here - defenses today aren't any more sophisticated than they were in the 90's... the rules of the game have shifted what is allowed offensively and defensively and defenses have adjusted accordingly. Strategies for scoring or preventing players from scoring aren't any more or less complex or sophisticated - just slightly different.

You want to be a big boy about this and talk like you know something we don't? Than go through the lengths it takes to prove it like everyone else on here who knows a thing or two about basketball does - take the time to explain the X's and O's. Don't just sit their on your throne of pompousness and pretend you know what your talking about - because when you fail to deliver why you believe what you believe it becomes obvious that your just blowing smoke out your ass.[/QUOTE]

Yet facts still state that players shoot a lower % and score less today. So I guess the defenses have gotten better, since that is a large indication of what defense goes by. :oldlol:
Why is it that rules are constantly being shifted to allow more freedom on offense? Its called counteracting a shift. Know why? Because the advantage has shifted to the defensive side with more advanced and sophisticated defenses.
Its as if you don't have any common sense and simply let your hard on for me spew out senseless shit as you have.

[QUOTE=plowking]Yet facts still state that players shoot a lower % and score less today. So I guess the defenses have gotten better, since that is a large indication of what defense goes by. :oldlol:
Why is it that rules are constantly being shifted to allow more freedom on offense? Its called counteracting a shift. Know why? Because the advantage has shifted to the defensive side with more advanced and sophisticated defenses.
Its as if you don't have any common sense and simply let your hard on for me spew out senseless shit as you have.[/QUOTE]
Nobody is arguing against the stats themselves, we just don't buy your B.S. 'explanation' as to why the stats today are different. We're all waiting for you to provide a single shred of evidence that supports your claim. Field goal percentages are lower - well - whoopy ****ing doo basketball isn't played on a stat sheet it is played on a court with 10 people at a time. Provide some video clips, where you can showcase some routine offensive plays like pick and roll, backdoor cuts etc from say the 80's or 90's, than provide video clips of those exact same offensive plays being run today and show how differently defenses react. Make sure that if you provide an example, we can't go back and see that exact same type of defense from the past because then we will disprove you. Once you find a clip of present-era defense reacting in a way never before done or seen in the 90's than maybe we can buy into your theory that defenses became more 'sophisticated'.

Until that time, your full of shit. Good luck.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Nobody is arguing against the stats themselves, we just don't buy your B.S. 'explanation' as to why the stats today are different. We're all waiting for you to provide a single shred of evidence that supports your claim. Field goal percentages are lower - well - whoopy ****ing doo basketball isn't played on a stat sheet it is played on a court with 10 people at a time. Provide some video clips, where you can showcase some routine offensive plays like pick and roll, backdoor cuts etc from say the 80's or 90's, than provide video clips of those exact same offensive plays being run today and show how differently defenses react. Make sure that if you provide an example, we can't go back and see that exact same type of defense from the past because then we will disprove you. Once you find a clip of present-era defense reacting in a way never before done or seen in the 90's than maybe we can buy into your theory that defenses became more 'sophisticated'.

Until that time, your full of shit. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

As of now, people stating the opposite haven't brought any facts or stats to the table either, so why is the onus on me exactly? :roll:
I at least corrected the BS in here that FG% was lower before.

Once again, stop letting your hard on for me get in the way of things. I guess I'm your new obsession along with Wilt.

[QUOTE=plowking]As of now, people stating the opposite haven't brought any facts or stats to the table either, so why is the onus on me exactly? :roll:
I at least corrected the BS in here that FG% was lower before.

Once again, stop letting your hard on for me get in the way of things. I guess I'm your new obsession along with Wilt.[/QUOTE]

:no: I brought some facts in the quote you used.
Then you promptly twisted the quote, saying it was about 90s when it was clearly talking about '70s. So I called you on it. Good enough. :cheers: But now you act like what you said was correct even when it was wrong... and then you claim to fix it!!:oldlol:

At least go look at the league wide stats for the two eras, like 2013 vs. 1974 (NOT 1990s or some other time frame) instead of making stuff up.
THERE WAS NO 3 POINT LINE IN 1974. SO COMPARE 2 POINTERS TO 2 POINTERS.

Q: When is league-wide .483 FG% lower than .459 FG%?
A: When plowking says it is.

When you get it wrong, you go all the way, that's for sure. But as shaqisgoat said here, and as Micku has masterfully shown in the past, comparing these kinds of things across eras is dangerous. And I need to thank you for promptly showing up and providing an example of why that is.

You can't compare across seasons team for team with those kinds of tools. But if you examine[B] league vs. league [/B]you see patterns emerge.

.498%

OMG Jordan didn't shoot 50% for his career!!!!!

That rounds up to 50% in case they forgot that in math class.