HISTORICAL RECORD: Antaun Jamison was considered better than Pau in 2008

[QUOTE=rawimpact;14942231]Antawn doesnt get mentioned because his best years were on garbage ass teams. Dude had his whole career to throw up monster numbers without obligation for post-season success. He is a Monta Ellis in a different position which happens to make him more efficient.[/QUOTE]


Wizards Jamison had just as much playoff success and production as Memphis Pau. Actually more since his team won a few games. Pau went 0-12 three first round sweeps. But he did play in the tougher conference so we can throw him a bone there. Either way they literally had the same playoff results as one another in their primes before Gasol joined Kobe.

[QUOTE=tpols;14942239]Wizards Jamison had just as much playoff success and production as Memphis Pau. Actually more since his team won a few games. Pau went 0-12 three first round sweeps. But he sid play in the tougher conference so we can throw him a bone there. Either way they literally had the same playoff results as one another in their primes before Gasol joined Kobe.[/QUOTE]

Yeah.. but that's where Antawns post-season success ends and Pau's begins. The west was an absolute bloodbath top-down during that era.

[QUOTE=rawimpact;14942240]Yeah.. but that's where Antawns post-season success ends and Pau's begins. The west was an absolute bloodbath top-down during that era.[/QUOTE]

Paus playoff success only began when he joined Kobe and one of the top seeded Laker teams in the mid 2008 season.

If Pau was on the Wizards he'd fare no better than Jamison did. Losing to Lebron and Cleveland every year.

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[QUOTE=tpols;14942243]Paus playoff success only began when he joined Kobe and one of the top seeded Laker teams in the mid 2008 season.

If Pau was on the Wizards he'd fare no better than Jamison did. Losing to Lebron and Cleveland every year.[/QUOTE]

So what? You're playing hypotheticals whereas im telling you what actually occurred.

The reason why Antawn isn't mentioned is because he had no real post-season success. His prime was spent with someone who stole his spotlight, arenas... often times in negative ways.

[QUOTE=tpols;14942243]Paus playoff success only began when he joined Kobe and one of the top seeded Laker teams in the mid 2008 season.

If Pau was on the Wizards he'd fare no better than Jamison did. Losing to Lebron and Cleveland every year.[/QUOTE]

I mean sure. Just because the teams achieved similar results doesn't make them similar players though.

Jamison was a good play-finisher and could score adequately from 3 levels, but he offered nothing as a playmaker or on defense. He was a guy who'd put up decent numbers on a bad team but on a good one his role was best as a 6th man. Hence why the Mavericks had him in that spot.

Pau was on a different tier as a player.

[QUOTE=tpols;14942243]Paus playoff success only began when he joined Kobe and one of the top seeded Laker teams in the mid 2008 season.

If Pau was on the Wizards he'd fare no better than Jamison did. Losing to Lebron and Cleveland every year.[/QUOTE]

Kobe didn't get out of the first round without Shaq until Pau arrived.

Dbl post cause the site sucks

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14942258]Dbl post cause the site sucks[/QUOTE]

That been happening to me a lot. When it starts spinning when i try to post i will hit go advanced. That will show me if my post already went through without losing what i wrote or creating a new post.

[QUOTE=Axe;14941958]Op can't even spell his first name right. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Neither could Antawn’s parent(s)

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14942258]Dbl post cause the site sucks[/QUOTE]

Lebron and Kobe ain't paying the bills like they used to lol.

[QUOTE=rawimpact;14942253]So what? You're playing hypotheticals whereas im telling you what actually occurred.

The reason why Antawn isn't mentioned is because he had no real post-season success. His prime was spent with someone who stole his spotlight, arenas... often times in negative ways.[/QUOTE]

I'm confused....cause neither did Pau? :confusedshrug:

I guess cause I'm confused by the hate on the comparison. Its actually a pretty good one. They both were putting up all-star numbers for decent teams that basically made it to the playoffs but lost pretty convincingly in the playoffs, then for a 1 year they kept putting up those numbers but there teams were terrible, and then the next year that trend continued until the all-star break where they got traded to the no. 1 seed of the conference. Pau flourished while Antawn became an afterthought. The main difference is that Jamison is a few years older than Pau, sure, but its just a coincidence that his drop-off starts while playing with Cleveland? It could also just be that expecting other star players to play Lebron-ball isn't conducive to their success and as a result as much to overall team success :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=guy;14942789]I'm confused....cause neither did Pau? :confusedshrug:

I guess cause I'm confused by the hate on the comparison. Its actually a pretty good one. They both were putting up all-star numbers for decent teams that basically made it to the playoffs but lost pretty convincingly in the playoffs, then for a 1 year they kept putting up those numbers but there teams were terrible, and then the next year that trend continued until the all-star break where they got traded to the no. 1 seed of the conference. Pau flourished while Antawn became an afterthought. The main difference is that Jamison is a few years older than Pau, sure, but its just a coincidence that his drop-off starts while playing with Cleveland? It could also just be that expecting other star players to play Lebron-ball isn't conducive to their success and as a result as much to overall team success :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

I'm not talking about the comparison up until 08. I'm addressing why Antawn doesn't get mentioned often.

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[indent][B]2007 1st Round

Jamison..... 32 on 48%
Lebron....... 28 on 42%[/B][/indent]


[SIZE=3]Jamison was a rare 20k scorer that outplayed Lebron in a head-to-head matchup.. So it's pretty nice to have a better scorer than Pippen as your THIRD option in 2010, while having better defensive ranking than the 1st three-peat Bulls..

The Cavs had better defensive ranking even in 2007, which was long before Lebron was considered a great defender, so he simply had more defensive help than the 1st three-peat Bulls.[/SIZE]

[QUOTE=3ba11;14942811].
[indent][B]2007 1st Round

Jamison..... 32 on 48%
Lebron....... 28 on 42%[/B][/indent]


[SIZE=3]Jamison was a rare 20k scorer that outplayed Lebron in a head-to-head matchup.. [B]So it's pretty nice to have a better scorer than Pippen as your THIRD option in 2010[/B], while having better defensive ranking than the 1st three-peat Bulls..

The Cavs had better defensive ranking even in 2007, which was long before Lebron was considered a great defender, so he simply had more defensive help than the 1st three-peat Bulls.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Why? If you have great scorer(s) at the top wouldn't it be cool to have your 3rd option be someone that can do other things?

Jamison was a Tobias Harris level player, not a Pau Gasol or Scottie Pippen.

RIGHT?!